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rijinksiwtv · 11 months
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Following the post about the [Japanese edition of The Vampire Armand], here are the other Anne Rice novels that have a cover illustration by manga artist Azumi Moka (who I believe did all of them).
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Pandora; and Cry to Heaven, volumes 1 and 2.
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The Sleeping Beauty series, volumes 1–3.
Anyone who wants to collect these but doesn't live in Japan can use a proxy shopping service, there are several for Japanese websites.
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May I ask you at what point it's clear Anne wrote/decided that Armand was physically a teenager? He doesn't seem to be written specifically as one during IWTV (especially) or even QOTD -- possibly why he's portrayed as a grown man in the early comic books and in the 1994 film?
Okay hahah full disclosure I’m writing this at work instead of working and I don’t have books with me to pull quotes so use your imagination or if anyone wants to jump in with some quotes please feel free!
So in IWTV he’s just described as a young man, and Louis doesn’t go crazy telling us too much about what he looks like. I have a few thoughts about this, and about how it influenced the movie and other incarnations of Armand:
Louis has spent most of his vampire life with a grown woman who looks like a 5 year old, so BIG FUCKIN DEAL LOL, wow ur 17? Get in line.
The movie specifically made him older & more spooky old world looking for the visual contrast, also to sidestep Louis’s rebound love interests both being children/young.
I don’t think we should get too nitpicky about the comic books like let’s, just. Lmao. Let’s leave that one.
By the time he shows up in TVL is when he goes from being described as “young man” to “young boy”.
I lied I do have this one quote:
This was a boy, as I had said, and he had a head of long curly hair, and he walked very straight and very simply through the silvery light and into the church. He hesitated for a moment. And by the tilt of the head, it seemed he was looking up. And then he came on through the nave and towards us, his feet making not the faintest sound on the stones. He moved into the glow of the candles on the side altar. His clothes were black velvet, once beautiful, and now eaten away by time, and crusted with dirt. But his face was shining white, and perfect, the countenance of a god it seemed, a Cupid out of Caravaggio, seductive yet ethereal, with auburn hair and dark brown eyes.
So there’s like, 12 years or whatever that she took between books and that gives her a lot of time to let her mental image and idea of the character to evolve, but also just her writing style is so different. I remember Anne saying that she also had Stella from The Tales of Hoffmann in mind when she wrote Armand, so he evolved from “ageless & androgynous” to “gleaming manikin of a young boy” !
For a visual reference, this is Moira Shearer as Stella, which Anne said was Armand in her mind:
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And this is the painting Lestat mentioned:
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But I think we are all aware of the tonal shift phenomenon between IWTV & TVL where IWTV is this like, heavy melancholy Gothic tome and then Lestat just shows up and fucking wrecks the place.  I don’t recall ever hearing her talk about this aspect of Armand and I don’t know if she had it in her mind the whole time, even if Louis didn’t take the time to describe it in detail the way Lestat does. I’d love to know how much of this was in her mind the whole time and if anyone has clues please let us know!!!!!!!
TLDR to answer your question, it’s ambiguous in IWTV and obvious in TVL.
HOWEVER.
I have this crack theory lmfao. !!!!!!!!!! About how Prince Alexi in The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty is also an auburn haired teenager, and how it was written in between the two VC books.
I mean like. Anne can say anyone has auburn hair but it’s just such a staple for Armand 2 ICONIC so how are you NOT gonna wonder about it when she’s writing BDSM porn? Idk.
There’s really no evidence for this except me with my Charlie Day board but sometimes I wonder if that break between books influenced her idea of him at all, and what impact it had on her prose for when she returned to Lestat, and I always wonder if they’re connected at all. IT JUST SEEMS SUSPICIOUS TO ME.
Like I mean. I think, there’s lots of teenagers in her books, so maybe this isn’t really much of a coincidence. But. I must wonder!
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formerdino · 3 months
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When the fucked up erotica I'm reading is excellent 🥵😳 and I have no one to talk about it with 🤐😶
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okay guys so I bought 'The claiming of Sleepiny Beauty' by Anne Rice and I honestly don't know what I expected. Like I'm 50 pages in and it is almost unbearable to read. Not because I don't like erotica, but because I'm not a fan of bdsm and the non-con (which she presents as if they like it, even tho they're clearly in pain and crying??) It is just written as if the characters have no depth which is maybe the point? I think its just a big shock since I'm used to her very deep and heartfelt characters and stories that are very erotic but not explicit and brass as this.. Thoughts??? Whats your guys's opinion on these books? Should I continue reading or not?
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my-midlife-crisis · 2 years
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sititran · 1 year
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Rereading this for the first time since the 90s.
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I am genuinely intrigued to see how spicy it is in comparison to my 2022 tastes....
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crisis-of-identity · 7 months
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9/10
Couldn’t put it down and already bought the next one because I have so many questions still
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rosepompadour · 2 years
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One day I shall be the princess, and spend my whole life dancing in fairyland.
Anna Pavlova, I Dreamed I Was A Ballerina (1922)
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raycatz · 11 days
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I'm not including a situation where someone might be injured because in that case I'm thinking the bed goes to them by default or they are nominated for it. anyone who wants to be chatty goes to join the living room floor gang.
What are your thoughts and headcanons? Do you have thoughts on how the boys tend to approach assigning beds in inns? Who do the chain choose to sleep near when camping and why? What are their dynamics like when settling down for the night and getting ready for the day?
In "Mirror Vs Open Closet Door: Fight!" by Gintrinsic (here) Four refers to the chain's decision on how to split up between inn rooms as the "Link-per-room ratio" which I find very funny. He, Sky, and Time also talk about their thought process behind why they do or don't want to sleep in a room with some of the others which I find fun and interesting.
So! If you have thoughts and want to share them! *gestures to the post!*
#linked universe#linkeduniverse#alrighty! now for my answers-#for the ranch question I think it varies which is why I'm asking in a poll. What do you think happens most often though?#each answer is a fun scenario so it's difficult to choose#but I think they'd try to act politely around Malon and Time for the first couple visits with straws or rock paper scissors#or showing generosity by offering the bed to someone else. (I bet Malon saying they're charming is quite the incentive#for more possible compliments. The chain as a whole would want to prove her right xD )#Once they're more comfortable in the house though I can totally see Wind and Legend making a mad dash for it while Wars yells after them xD#Wind probably ends up sharing with Four a lot since they're the littles#or Wind snuggles in with Wars Legend Wild etc#Wild and Twi/Wolfie have claimed the spot on the floor by the fireplace.#For inn rooms / castle rooms / camping - I tend to group them by how they're grouped a lot already#but a lil mixed up#Time - Sky - Wars are the good rest trio. they want a good night's rest please let them get their beauty sleep. often joined by Four#Wars goes between this group and wherever Legend is depending on how chatty he is that night.#Twi - Wild - Hyrule are snuggle/proximity buddies#Legend is attached to Hyrule's hip or sets up near Warriors to gossip and gripe. I can also see him setting up near Wild#in the eye of the storm as it were or just an interesting place to be. Wild and Hyrule can get to chatting about everything and anything#so if Legend wants background noise (Hyrule and Wild podcast omg)-#or a conversation he can be half a part of and jump in and out of while getting ready for the night or in the mornings-#this is a good place to be. add Wind and things get a bit more chaotic.#Wind gravitates to Wars and Legend too when curious and chatty. He gravitates towards Time when he wants something calmer.#Four tends to be near Sky or Twi or to Legend's group for the same reasons#I can see Four and Twi having a little book club going during downtimes where they talk about what they're reading. Sky likes to listen. <3#Wind thinks they're nerds but so is he and he can't resist a good story so he orbits and sometimes settles in and peppers questions.#it's funny that Time Sky and Wars want to sleep the most but Legend follows Wars to chat (and ends up bringing people with him xD )#there could be some conflict there oooo#Twi is by Time#it's almost a circle but with clusters of sleeping bags near on top of each other and filling the gaps
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thebibliosphere · 2 years
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This isn't adding much, but I wanted to drop my coin in the well, so to speak, about the Sleeping Beauty books. For me personally, there are parts that work, but I absolutely get where you're coming from with the sporking. My interpretation of it (and of some...related media...) has been that it's a world that works on Pro Wrestling Logic.
People's bodies aren't supposed to do that irl, but somehow they do here.
Consent (as would be necessary irl) isn't even a consideration.
Everything that would require any sort of political/interpersonal finesse is handled with the universe's main export -- which involves sweaty, scantily-clad people getting up close and personal with one another, which still solves everything...somehow.
Skin-on-skin contact creates a minor telepathic bond by which you have a brief rundown of their character stats.
Anyway, thank you for your writing, and continue to, well...
[GIF of Stone Cold Steve Austin hitting Vince McMahon (businessman, performer, union buster, sex pest) with a bedpan]
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The take that Anne Rice was actually writing erotic fairy tale WWE is not something I ever thought I'd read but dear god if it doesn't make more sense than anything else I've read in the last 24 hours.
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dallonwrites · 7 months
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16. 29. & 48. for the ship ask game!! 🙏🏿
16. Would they ever get matching tattoos? If yes, what would these look like?
Omggg I actually don't think they would seriously like I think if they actually did it would be an impulsive drunk decision in their shared ~reckless~ era with not much thought put into it 😭 they'd wake up together and realise they both have some shit like just MADONNA <3 tattooed on their wrists
29. Describe their nighttime routine.
Okayy one thing I am excited for with RR book 3 that I haven't fully figured out yet is that Beau and Felix live together then and! The potentials for domestic night routines!! I don't know what it looks like but I feel like it's quiet. I need to know their dish cleaning routine and what shows they're watching. But in lieu of a specific answer for that here's Beau wandering about routine in a Lover Boy flashback of the first night they spent together (cw for sex but I don't think it's NSFW just ~sensual):
Felix fell asleep first, and Beau knew he wouldn’t sleep much, the room still unfamiliar even in its welcoming, but he found himself content to lay there like this, cuddled against the coolness, his fingers curled into Felix’s hair. He found it easy to lay there, familiarise himself with the rhythm of it, and wonder if this was all going to be a routine, going home together. Going out together knowing they would then go home. The wine and the new records, soft arguments over which song was better, Felix’s animated excitement over a bridge, an arrangement of synth. Making each other laugh in that sharp way, where you’ll never remember what it was all about but just the laughter, collapsing into one another. The kissing, all the kissing, across their hushed bodies, finding new ways to press together, the quiet fucking amongst the ambience of this carbonated city, where they can hear the outside but the outside can’t hear them, can’t hear Felix’s breath hot and urgent at his ear, whispering God, you’re everything, you’re everything I’ve ever wanted. He’d kept his window open, cool air gauzed around them, because he must have known, how Beau falls asleep better with the window open, and he must have remembered being told that, found it important, even though Beau does not remember admitting it.  
48. Do they talk about their future together? Why or why not?
In RR it is a very important point that they do NOT talk about it, not intentionally avoiding it but like, in RR their relationship is a lot more intense and obsessive and very present driven, especially because they're also leaning on each other as a means to try and avoid all the things happening around them + in the future that they can't control. Meanwhile in Lover Boy all the things they were scared of happening back then have already happened and being on the other side of all that + knowing how they behaved before has them. a bit more considerate of these things! So there's probably going to be a lot of dialogue just talking about future possibilities and I think it'll contrast RR in that they actually find it comforting/grounding to do so
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Just read your post you linked to about Anne Rice's erotica, by Armand surrogate in CoSB do you mean Prince Alexi? I remember thinking that too whenever his auburn hair and large brown eyes and "sereneness" were mentioned. It's so interesting that she did that. And I would love to read more meta from you on TVA and Marius if you ever feel like writing it!
I JUST, FEEL, THAT, ANNE WAS INTENTIONAL ABOUT MENTIONING AUBURN HAIR LIKE IDK IS IT A COINCIDENCE????
I remember reading it going "AUBURN? HULLO???" and wondering if it was Armand with the serial number scratched off
But then
What fucked me up
Is that she wrote that book in between IWTV and TVL??
So like IWTV!Armand is a little vague, she doesn't go too hard on his appearance, his age is ambiguous, blah blah. We start getting the real substance of him in TVL and I'm just
WAIT, WAIT. IS ARMAND? *ALEXI* WITH THE SERIAL NUMBER SCRATCHED OFF????
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And yeah like I said in that post, I think the timeline of her career is really interesting in that she was no longer pretending she wasn't A. N. Roquelaure, wasn't using an editor, was in one of those fuck-the-church phases, etc. I think it came together in a really self indulgent way for her and fucks were not given. If anyone gets a chance to read the forward she wrote in those newer editions I really recommend them, even if you aren't into the content of the books. It was really insightful with some really inspiring Anne-Typical encouragement to GO WRITE STORIES and while I don't really have an interest in being a professional writer it really really really resonated with me as a fanfic porn writer. :D (I'll see if I can find it online somewhere haha I listened to it on audiobook.)
anyway dgjakdsg thank you I am an Venice Era fan at heart, the TVA/B&G Duology is my favorite part of Vampire Chronicles. So that explains a lot. I basically always wanna talk about them LMAO.
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formerdino · 4 months
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I'm really enjoying The Claiming Of Sleeping Beauty by Anne Rice but I wouldn't reccomend it if you aren't a fan of fucked up erotica. You aren't going to like it just because you like Interview With The Vampire. If you don't want to read about noncon or BDSM don't read a book where the entire plot is sex slavery. Spend your time doing and watching and reading things that you would like instead of that.
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puffdenlilledragen · 4 months
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sleep procrastination? nah gurl i have the sheet terrors
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desi-pluto · 1 year
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Aurora 🎶 You'll love me at once, the way you did once upon a dream 🎶
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ebonyforged · 1 year
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★ New verse: Empty throne. 8+ years post-amnesia. Request only. Plotting required.
( Canon purists will want to look away. )
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𝕻𝖊𝖗𝖍𝖆𝖕𝖘 𝖎𝖓 𝖆 𝖋𝖊𝖜 𝖞𝖊𝖆𝖗𝖘 𝖙𝖎𝖒𝖊. . .
After a powerful attack at the Demon King’s very core by a force unknown, Mundus is no more. His human form shrivels and turns to dust with no one around to bear witness, demons relying on his leadership are left aimless and confused, and Limbo is suddenly without a leader. It cries out, quickly growing unstable without someone in control after such a long time. It’s unprecedented for someone’s rule over any part of it to have lasted for nine millennia, and so is the reality that the power vacuum left behind threatens to do irreversible damage to the thin barrier between it and the human world. For the first time, its very life is threatened, and with it the lives of every living being on Earth.
In its desperation, it presents to Ebony a gold ring.
She’s not powerful as Mundus was, merely a lost demon who remembers less of her own life than Limbo could recount to her if it wanted. But she’s there, at the right place at the right time, and the ease with which she has always passed through the veil proves one thing: She’s compatible.
And she has to accept, or this desperate search for a replacement will find someone else who sees only power.
The ring fits her perfectly. Limbo silences all at once, the Weapon now suddenly a Master — but she doesn’t want the title of QUEEN. The dimension is alive, its reaching out to her proves it, and Ebony has no desire to manipulate something that already has a will of its own.
So she crumbles Mundus’s throne, basks in the silence for a minute or two, and goes home. No one knows what really happened to the Demon King. No one but her knows that, for a short moment, Limbo was reaching out to find any willing soul who could readily take his place. Maybe no one has to know. As long as Limbo has someone to call its ‘ruler’, someone to fill the vacancy while 9000 years of influence and corruption slowly fade away and Limbo becomes a blank slate once more, maybe that’s enough.
                              𝕴’𝖑𝖑 𝖇𝖚𝖎𝖑𝖉 𝖆 𝖓𝖊𝖜 𝖙𝖍𝖗𝖔𝖓𝖊 𝖙𝖔 𝖈𝖆𝖑𝖑 𝖒𝖎𝖓𝖊.
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