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bitacrytic · 7 months
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Easy Questions to Answer
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blmpff · 4 months
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✨2023: A Summary✨
Post your most popular and/or favourite edit/gifset/analysis for each month (it’s okay to skip months!)
Tagged by @lurkingshan, and also @colourme-feral and @troubled-mind as I was working on it, thank you ❣️
My two main ~things~ are uploading actors' photos, and doing my own favorite X posts from shows I'm watching, and considering I've uploaded 5593 posts in 2023, in this essay I'll focus on my own.
disclaimer 1: I started posting my edits in March, so the first two months of the year will be just actors' pics to not skip them disclaimer 2: as for favorites the answer is always my favorite shots posts because each and every single one of them is my precious baby disclaimer 3: I added SHOWS to each month for my compilation posts for them
JANUARY:
- most popular: First Kanaphan from their trip to Japan I think - favorite: ArmyJoe stills from gmmtv twt
FEBRUARY:
- most popular: Fluke and Thor TWE bts - favorite: this MosBank
MARCH:
- most popular: Our Dining Table promo picture - favorite: Midnight Museum ep5, The Eighth Sense ep2, first Shared Location
APRIL:
- most popular: P'Jojo explaining the use of thai soap opera cliches in Our Skyy 2: Never Let Me Go - favorite: T8S x train ride, Jaewon calling Jihyun his boyfriend, shadow kisses, Midnight Museum moon shots 4/4, the post where I save links to all the shows/movies I make posts about - shows: Our Dating Sim, The Eighth Sense, Destiny Seeker, Midnight Museum, Blueming, Bed Friend
MAY:
- most popular: P'Jojo posting about Only Friends getting the green light - favorite: Man's hands, this Between Us scene, this ONHCT scene, OS2 x Win's Adventures - shows: OS2: The Eclipse, OS2: NLMG, Happy Merry Ending, ABAAB, Love Mate, ONHCT, Dear Ex, Please Tell Me So, A First Love Story 1, A First Love Story 2, Step For You
JUNE:
- most popular: Cooheart in a bridal dress at Bangkok Pride - favorite: Fluke's hair poll, IQ subber in House of Stars, ODT Tane - shows: Star Struck, Our Dining Table, Love Tractor
JULY:
- most popular: NeoMark Only Friends Q photo - favorite: these two Tokyo In April Is parallels, this Semantic Error scene - shows: Step by Step, La Pluie, House of Stars, My Ride
AUGUST:
- most popular: P'Jojo talking about sex scenes in Only Friends - favorite: ML Shin being Shin, this scene in SMC - shows: Tokyo In April Is, Sing My Crush, Egoist, Low Frequency, Stay Still, Sonnet 18
SEPTEMBER:
- most popular: the epic journey that was Red Peafowl cast announcement - favorite: Leehyun repeatedly calling An his boyfriend, Joohyuk x Sungmin, hyung, EarthBank - shows: Laws of Attraction, Love Class 2, Marry Go Round, Minato's Laundromat 2, Hidden Agenda, Bon Appetit
OCTOBER:
- most popular: P'Jojo roasting Boston - favorite: IFYLITA dream dancing, bloody Papang, bloody GG kiss&murder - shows: My Personal Weatherman, Only Friends, Grand Guignol, Semantic Error: The Movie
NOVEMBER:
- most popular: new YinWar show Jack&Joker pilot - favorite: this Mermaid's Jade scene, this The Devil Judge scene, these Playboyy posters - shows: I Feel You Linger In The Air, Mermaid's Jade, Kiseki: Dear To Me, Pure Vanilla, One Room Angel
DECEMBER:
- most popular: Babe causing Billy to malfunction - favorite: JellyfishBolster compilation, this AobPuen, DFF I've been impaled - shows: Sweet Home 2, Shadow, To My Star s1, Absolute Zero, Bake Me Please, Moonlight Chicken
Tagging everyone who wants to do it and haven't already, this site helps!
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gillianthecat · 2 years
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The Devil Judge: Episodes 1 and 2
I just finished The Devil Judge and something about this show compelled me to take copious notes - it had emotional intensity and layers of mystery. These are long and rambling, so they're likely not of interest to anyone else, but since I spent all that time writing it I decided, why not post it. Perhaps someone will find it interesting.
Below are my moment-to-moment reactions, predictions and analysis as I watched episode 1 & 2.
eps 1&2  ep3  ep4  ep5  ep6  ep7  ep8  ep9 ep10  ep11  ep12  ep13  ep14  ep15  ep16
This contains SPOILERS up through ep. 5
This is cleaned up only slightly. I followed the spelling given in the Viki subtitles. I mostly don't explain what I'm reacting to, so this will probably only make sense if you've seen the episode recently. Occasionally I give timestamps. I took these notes while re-watching the beginning after writing this post and this. I had watched up through episode 5, so some notes reference things that happen later.  
"Are you asking me to play the role of Judas Iscariot?" 
On the gothic romance theme - Y saves G's life when he puts himself at risk to save a child. The framing of that was very gothic romance 
my The Hunger Games impression makes sense - the opening of the show really implies that dystopian vibe. 
Y's first hoodie adventure- searching for the firefighter who stole his watch. It's left deliberately ambiguous what he does to the guy who tries to attack him, he pins him down but the scene ends before anything else happens. Clearly trying to imply at this point Y hurts him, but actually leaving the truth unknown. 
Oh interesting. I think the closing sequence puts barefaced G in the role of glasses wearing Isaac in shots from the cathedral fire! 
In the priest's story flashback, based on Yo-Han's expression it really looks like he hit the bird only because he saw that Se In was scared and he was trying to protect her. I don't think he intended to kill it. He looks confused and distressed about what happened. 
But it is more strongly implied he orchestrated the theft chaos. As revenge for being treated as a monster? But if so why did he do it in a way to incite class conflict? Implying that he was manipulating politics for his own personal vengeance from childhood? 
Oh yeah. Kang Yo-Han's interactions with Jeong Seon-ah are absolutely framed like a battle. I'm more and more convinced she's the primary antagonist. 
In contrast there is much less intensity to the way he's framed with Minister Cha. 
The child actor for Yo-Han is great!
Interesting to intercut between the priest's story and Yo-Han at the charity gala. Not exactly sure what that conveys. Y sitting back and calmly watching the chaos he incited both then and now?
Who set the bomb in the painting? It could have been Y in a plot to get G into his house but I suspect not. It's very far-fetched and it seems like the show is sticking to logic more closely than this. Plus he goes after the furniture guy later? 
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sheendaquil · 3 years
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I watched episode 5 without subtitles (spoilers ahead) and I NEED them NOW
- So much of it seemed to happen in dreams and flashbacks, so confusing but also very VERY interesting
- Gaon's flashbacks!! Mentor guy was in one and he made me REALLY MAD on Gaon's behalf tbh, but ok I will wait for ~context~
- So. Sun-a is 99% the maid that "jumped from the second floor" who had a crush on Yohan, isn't she? Same hairstyle and the nanny never said she died so...
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If she was this obsessive and creepy from back then (I mean among other things, why did she have Isaac's necklace??) I get why he didn't like her back lol And she does seem like the type to react like that... She's also older, right? Yohan looks young there and she was already working as a maid? Maybe not much, maybe they were both more or less teens- idk. Whatevs. Still creepy. ALSO. I already thought she was very sus for not being in any of the church fire flashbacks, now that I know she has backstory with Yohan and even his entire family.......... maybe...... I'M JUST SAYING!! I mean the old man she controls now WAS in the flashbacks so where was she? Was she afraid Isaac would recognize her? (she probably would want to be recognized by Yohan tbh)
- If I see any more people saying that kiss was hot... it was creepy and Yohan had dead eyes the entire time (also everything about that whole situation was against his will. Not Nice.)
- THE DOMESTICITY. Gaon showing off his great potential as the perfect husband. Yohan spying on the lovely family time with Elijah and the cat, Gaon playing with the cat while Yohan opens a package, the robot butler with Gaon's message and the food, AAAAAAAAAAAAH.
- The romantic tropes wow wtf. The first 2 scenes were like a fanfic.
- I'm sure I forgot so much. I need to watch it with subs so I can actually like understand wtf is going on. Also I need to watch the trailer for Ep6 in slowmo because there was SO MUCH in there.
(btw I live-tweet while I watch, you also do that and want company while you freak out I'm supersneakyvi on twt)
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baek1nho · 3 years
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im only on ep 6 i just think it’s funny yohan & sunah are supposed to be a couple or something? because everytime yohan sees her he looks so inconvenienced 
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spicyvampire · 3 years
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He puts the man in manipulate
THE DEVIL JUDGE EP5
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b612sunsets · 3 years
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The Devil Judge Ep5/6 Making Behind: Jisung and Jinyoung
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yohangaontdj · 3 years
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Fictober 2021 (Gahan) Day 15
Prompt No Day 15 - I like that in you."
Fanfiction Fandom: The Devil Judge (TVN), Gahan, Lawful Husbands, Lawful Family, Kang Yohan x Kim Gaon
Additional Character: Kang Elijah
Rating: Mature
Warnings: Yohan and his feelngs. Domestic fluff. Misused of chocolate. Kissing.
(Yohan had been acting strange ever since Gaon started living in the Kang mansion. A re-write of a scene in Ep5/6 (can't remember) when Gaon had enough of how the Kangs eat and he decided to cook for them.)
“Gaon, I want to take this opportunity...”
“No, no,” Yohan shook his head, “Too formal...”
Taking a breath, he tried again.
“Gaon, by having you here, cooking and taking care...”
“You make him sound like a maid!” Yohan berated himself and he slumped back against his chair only to jump in fright when a voice cut in.
“Why are you muttering Gaon’s name so much today?” Elijah narrowed her eyes at him, “Are you cursing him?”
“Of course not!” Yohan retorted, eyes darting furtively to the opened book lying on his table. His fingers crept towards it, slow and sneakily, hoping to snatch the book back before Elijah noticed it.
However, his niece was much too astute to be fooled by him. Slapping her hand on the book before Yohan could touch it, she slid it towards her and flipped to the cover.
“Building a better senior/junior relationship for dummies...”
Elijah looked at him as if he had grown a third eye or something equally terrible on his face.
“You’ve been really weird since Gaon came.”
“Me, weird!” Yohan scoffed, “I don’t do weird. It’s you...”
“Dinner’s ready!” Gaon suddenly popped his head in, a bright smile for the two of them, “Can you hurry up and don’t keep me waiting.”
“Coming!” Yohan immediately stood up, his demeanour softening as he returned Gaon’s smile with one that was filled with great affection. And Elijah finally understood why her uncle had been acting so strange.
With a final wave urging them to hurry, Gaon disappeared from sight. And Yohan’s eyes lingered on the spot where he had just been, basking in the warm feeling Gaon had brought out in him.
“No wonder you’ve been so weird,” Elijah smirked as she turned her wheelchair towards the direction of the kitchen, “You have a crush on Gaon and I’m going to tell him!”
“Ya! You have a death wish is it!”
Yohan shouted, darting round the table, slow as possible, letting Elijah get away even though he could have overtaken her easily.
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Dinner, that night, was hellish because of Elijah.
“Guess what I just found out,” Elijah smiled at Gaon, eyes full of mischief and before Gaon could ask her anything, Yohan interrupted them.
“No talking while eating!”
And he dumped as much food as he could on her dinner plate.
“Chief, what are you doing?” Gaon grasped his wrist and Yohan froze at the touch of his fingers against his skin.
Quickly pulling his hand away, Yohan glowered at Elijah.
“I’m just worried that she’s too skinny..”
and if you don’t shut up...
Yohan mouthed a warning, thumb discreetly slicing across his throat to show what would become of her.
Surprised by Yohan’s thoughtfulness, Gaon decided to praise him.
“That’s so nice, you caring for Elijah, and I like that in you.”
Eyes wide, Yohan stared at him. Did he just say he...
“Someone’s falling head over heels...”
“Elijah!”
Yohan spoke sharply and Gaon frowned, eyes darting between the two of them.
“Are you two hiding something from me?”
“No! Nothing,” Yohan jumped in before Elijah could open her mouth, “And you should eat more too. You’re just as skinny as her!”
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After dinner, Yohan couldn’t stay focused. And when his mind wandered off for the umpteenth time, mulling over Elijah’s words, he snapped his book shut, utterly frustrated.
“I do not have a crush!” Yohan growled, angry at his brain for thinking way too much.
“Crush?”
Nearly dying of fright, Yohan whirled around to find Gaon standing before his table, looking a bit worried.
“Are you okay, Chief? You’ve been...maybe this might help.”
Offering him an opened bag that looked like it contained some snacks, Gaon looked at him expectantly. However, instead of putting his hand in. Yohan eyed him suspiciously.
“Look, it’s just chocolate.”
Reaching in, Gaon pulled out a plump round one and showed it to Yohan.
“Some fans gave it to me and...”
Bringing it closer, Gaon’s mouth parted, lips looking so flush and pretty against the dark of the chocolate. And Yohan found the room much too hot and there was insufficient air to keep his breathing steady.
Opening wider, lips molding perfectly to the roundness, Gaon gave a light push with a finger and the chocolate disappeared. His cheeks hollowed out as he sucked and savoured the deliciousness, eyelashes fluttering as he swallowed and sighed in satisfaction.
“It’s really good, Chief, and you should try one too.”
By then, Yohan’s brain cells were totally fried and what he did next were totally instinctual.
Coming round the table, fingers tracing the edges, Yohan dipped his hand into the bag and took out one that was just as round and plump. Fixing his gaze on Gaon, Yohan stepped closer and instead of putting it into his own mouth, he pressed it against Gaon’s.
“Show me again.”
Eyes widening in surprise, Gaon parted his lips and instead of just chocolate, he got Yohan delving in as well.
“Chie...”
Gaon’s startled cry was immediately swallowed up. And as Yohan enjoyed the chocolate which really tasted good when having it in Gaon’s mouth, he realised that Elijah had gotten it all wrong. He didn’t have a crush on Gaon. He had the hots for him.
(The ending is inspired by this photo that I posted up a while back - Photo.)
(For more Fictober 2021 (Gahan) - Read here.)
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drrav3nb · 3 years
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Thoughts on The Devil Judge Ep5 Preview [SPOILERS]
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So it seems Yohan and Gaon will have another fight 😭 What about though, I guess we’ll have to wait till the next episode because I have no clue. But my theory is that Gaon realises/finds out that Yohan partially lied to him about the church fire. In frustration he questions him and somehow they get into another fight. But we’ll have to wait and see!
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I think this is a flashback of Yohan being a judge prior to becoming the Head Judge of the courtroom live show. If so, this will definitely be an interesting scene and gives us some more information on the type of person and judge he was prior to this. Looking forward to this scene!
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I saw a theory that Isaac isn’t as innocent and kind as we’ve been led to believe and I think this also hints at that being a possibility. I think Yohan has a nightmare, either guilt-ridden about not being able to save Isaac or the thought of Isaac torments him. Maybe Isaac hurt him like his father did? I’m not sure but if Isaac really isn’t the person we’ve been shown so far, that’d definitely be an unexpected twist!
If Yohan does have a nightmare, I hope Gaon is there to comfort him after 🥺️ Which might be why Gaon tells him that he understands how it feels. Not sure what he’s referring to but I’m excited to find out!
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Seems like Gaon will be returning to the courtroom in this episode! I hope he and Yohan arrive together 😊
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This scene feels like it will be a turning point in their relationship and in the show. Because depending on what Gaon decides alliance and enemies will be formed and motivations will change. This is probably what I’m excited for the most! I hope Gaon chooses to side with Yohan and become a fallen angel, that would be very interesting to see!
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highflyerwings · 3 years
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The Devil Judge is absolutely out of its mind bonkers. I cannot believe I’m getting to witness it. I also cannot believe I’ve watched the last 2 eps completely sober. I’m gonna make a drink and rewatch ep5 immediately.
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sueboohscorner · 7 years
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#Power S4 EP5: Don't Thank Me *Recap & Review* #FreeGhost
Episode Rating Scale: (10) Exceptional
I don't know about yall but this season of Power got me all fired up. I mean screaming at Angela and Dre for they shadiness. Shaking my head at how devious Kanan is about any and everything. Realizing Jukebox is crazier than Kanan. Loving Tommy and LaKeisha together. So much to scream about and more love to keep watching. Let's recap and discuss Power... Don't Thank Me.   
Angela finally gets it!!! She finally understands Ghost didn't kill Greg. How can you claim to know that man but not know when he is telling the truth and lying? Better yet, all that you do know why you would believe he would kill Greg now? Ghost could have been doing that, so why would he now. Sadly, everything he has done has been for the love he had for her. Even the fake break up was to protect her from Mulan. She so smarts till she dumb, I swear. As she sits talking to her sister Paz, I was shocked to hear her sister encourage her to tell her boss what she discovered. We all know Paz didn't care too much for Ghost, but that caught me by surprise. Silver and Ghost discuss the freezing of his finances. I can no longer call him the little helper attorney, lol. Ghost don't trust him anymore then we would. I mean, how can you trust an attorney with full details of your life; who has clearly made it known he doesn't like you. Proctor being removed from the case was the worst thing ever to me. Silver want Ghost to trust him and for a second seem like Ghost thought about trusting him. Silver wanted to know did the prosecution find something in his finances. I mean they close Truth, the hair salon, and the bank account basically. Did they find something? Ghost told him they found nothing but you know he worried. He probably wondering, did I slip up somewhere? 
Angela talks to Mike. She tells him the tapes doesn't show Ghost hiding the gun in his office. Because Mike is the real killer, he is not trying to hear anything she has to say. John and Saks interrupt Angela and Mike conversation. Apparently, they found a check between Tommy and Ghost. Now, why would Tommy use a check if he is going to hire Ghost to kill a Fed?  So smart till they dumb. Tony is setting something up. He talking to that CO played by Charlie Murphy. Nothing good coming out of that. Silver tells Tarsha she might have to testify. He is trying to be sneaky and get her to tell him what Ghost isn't saying. Little did he know, Tarsha isn't telling you anything. Keisha and Tommy's romance seems to be brewing.  Keisha is falling for Tommy, but  Tommy is messed up over Holly. That ignorance of Keisha question said it all. Tommy heard her ask what Holly do to break them up. Tommy confronts Proctor about not telling him he is kicked off Ghost's case. Proctor learns that Tarsha is also deep in Tommy's and Ghost's business. Stern pays Ghost a visit. He is trying to get his business back. Ghost does need money but he selling nothing
Proctor is spending time with his daughter when Angela pays him a visit. She wants Proctor help Ghost. Proctor truly doesn't like Angela. We can't blame him on that. He tells Angela to call Silver and talk to Ghost to get the answers she seek. No handshake for you Angela. Tarsha and Keisha have girl talk. Keisha tells Tarsha she is dating a white boy. I thought she didn't want Tarsha to know. I guess she let the cat out the bag. That look Tarsha gave her and Keisha didn't deny she wasn't talking about Tommy.  Keisha has fallen for Tommy, omgg. Angela visit Ghost with Silver by her side. Angela learns what Ghost did that night Greg was killed. She finds out he was there when she was at Greg's apartment. She find it hard to believe but she knows he telling the truth. She gives Silver the heads up about the check John going to present to the judge. On that note, meeting over. Silver needs to talk to his client. The more the Feds dig, the more its a possibility Tarsha has to take the stand. That wouldn't be good for none of them.
Tariq is staring at a girls number. Tommy sneaks up on him. They share a man to man talk. Tommy finds out Tariq has had sex at a party. Tariq once again lies about the company he keeps. He done got Dre in more hot water with Tommy. Kanan is doing a number on this kid. He mad at his father and hanging with a devil. Ironic he feels his father has lied to him so he mad at Ghost. Little does he know, Slim aka Kanan is lying to him and using him.
Tarsha and the kids arrive at court. Tarsha try to talk to Silver but he can't talk right now. John enter the check into evidence to the judge. Silver calls a witness to the stand. Tarsha thinks it's her but nope, Ghost took the stand. He explains the check was to cover security for his three nightclubs. Ghost puts on the business man persona. If I didn't know better I would have believe he was an innocent business man. Lol. Now the prosecutor has something up their sleeve. What could it be? While court is in recess, Stern approach Tarsha. Since Ghost turned him down, he goes to wifey. Glad Tarsha didn't feed into him. Dre had a new idea for Tommy. The feds got Tommy business a little out of order with Truth being closed, the drug business isn't getting that club money. Dre comes up with anyway to make that money. Tommy likes the idea. He asked Dre about the party he took Tariq too. Of course Dre denies taking him to a party but Tommy think he lying. Court doesn't go well with Mike questioning Ghost. He managed to push Ghost buttons enough for him to scream "I didn't kill Greg." So because he called the man Greg, he killed him. Ummmmmm, he dated Angela and Greg dated Angela. Their paths have cross,why wouldn't he know him as Greg. Duh!!!  Don't see how that help the prosecution case. 
Back at the jail Ghost is upset with Silver. He does see how he let Mike take him out of character and call him a killer in front if his kids. Silver tells Ghost he will need more money to get all the help to beat this case. Ghost doesn't have that kind of money. Looks like Ghost is losing faith of beating these charges. Ghost in the gym blowing off some fustration. I don't know about y'all but I was screaming "Noooo, Ghost!!!",  at the TV.  That CO pushed the wrong button talking about screwing Tarsha and his kids calling him daddy. James lose his cool and Ghost emerges. He takes all his fustration out on him and give him a blood bath death. Then enters Biscuits and Tony. So that was the plan. They was going to kill Ghost. I guess that plan didn't work out. Biscuits tries to stab Ghost. As they wrestle, Tony change the plan. He kills Biscuits, then orders Ghost to change clothes with Biscuits. Amazing how the jail has no camers. Lol. Anyway, now Tony has something to hold over Ghost head. How will he use it? 
Tarsha question Tommy about him and LaKeisha. Tommy tells her it all started when she hid her from Mulan. Tarsha share the news that Keisha is into him. Tommy finally tells Tarsha the truth. Tarsha thought Tommy would have found her after finding out she was pregnant. He tells her the entire story about not being able to kill Ghost per Lobos orders. Holly tried to kill Ghost and he thought he was dead. He didn't know she was pregnant. Tommy isn't feeling LaKeisha like that. He loved Holly and he killed her. Hard pill to swallow. Tommy not ready to love again. Poor LaKeisha with a friend like Tarsha, who needs enemies. She basically told Tommy to keep dealing with her to keep her from being a woman scorned or kill her. At least that's what I took from the protect the family. Lol.   
Angela takes the stand to testify on the truth. She admits the tapes clear Ghost of the charges. John brings up Angela and Ghost relationship. The judge had enough. He orders suspension for the entire prosecutor team and set Ghost free. Yassssssssss!!!! That's what I was screaming at the TV. Ghost thanks Angela but of course she just couldn't say, "You are welcome." Smh. Dre and Kanan meets up. Dre gives Kanan his last payment. Dre ask him again to leave Tariq alone. Dre offers Kanan a proposition to help him. As the two of them talking, Julio sees this meeting. Now what will he do with that information. Finally, someone know Kanan isn't dead other then Dre. Angela and Mike meet up in the elevator. Mike is upset with her but Angela did the right thing. He should be glad and just get out if dodge before the heat come down on him. Silver and Tarsha share a suspicious hug. Looks like they might be feeling each other. Silver tells Tarsha they might want to get a float with their money taking such a lost. At least Ghost can open Truth back up now and the hair salon. When he leaves, Tarsha calls stern. Now what she up to?
Tariq shows up at Slim's crib. What unexpected visitor is waiting? Tommy has been ordered to go to Chicago. He gets a new ride and leaves his phone behind. Now what is going on. He top dog, how he leave his phone behind. On top of that, he is leaving without knowing Ghost is free. What is going on now? What is about to happen with Tommy? Tony gives Ghost a phone to give to Tommy. Ghost want to know why he interested in Tommy. He knows Tiny been in jail too long to know them personally. He asked, "You know his father or something?" Tony doesn't admit to nothing. The look on Ghost face tells it all. Tony Terisi is Tommy's father. I still stand by that. Lol. As the final moments come to close to the end, we see Jukebox come from out the shadows. That was the surprise visit. The original plan to hold Tariq for ransom and take all of Ghost money is back on the table as plan now that Ghost is free. When she asked Kanan was he down with it, his response, "what you want me to do?" Kanan got all ends covered to take Ghost down. You just can't trust nobody. Stay tuned as Power keeps us on the edge of our seats. 
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gillianthecat · 2 years
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The Devil Judge: Episode 16
I just finished The Devil Judge and something about this show compelled me to take copious notes - it had emotional intensity and layers of mystery. These are long and rambling, so they're likely not of interest to anyone else, but since I spent all that time writing it I decided, why not post it. Perhaps someone will find it interesting.
Below are my moment-to-moment reactions, predictions and analysis as I watched episode 16.
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I wrote about my initial impressions, up to episode 5, here and here.
This is cleaned up only slightly. I followed the spelling given in the Viki subtitles. I mostly don't explain what I'm reacting to, so this will probably only make sense if you've seen the episode recently. Occasionally I give timestamps. 
ok.  here we go. deep breaths
oh god my heart. these two. their faces.
oh god. is one of them going to die? "even if it costs me my life." do they have to bury the gays even when they won't admit they're gay? It is still hard for me to imagine what a happy ending could even look like here, even if they were allowed to be in love.
Ga-On now has no power, he has to beg a low level police officer to intervene, just like an ordinary citizen.
Is he going to end up in jail too? or maybe he's trying to get himself arrested so he can bust Yo-Han out from the inside?
starting to feel like a rat trapped in a maze.  what doesn't Seon-Ah control at this point? I hope she doesn't get flattened out into just a conspiracy mastermind at this point.  
I'm confused about the timeline here.  I thought Prof. Min had been a supreme court justice for a while now? and it seems he'd known Seon-Ah for many years.  How long ago did Ga-On become a judge?  Based on my research I'm guessing any time from age 24 on, and now he's 30, so it's been 5 or 6 years?
but now it's looking like she only tried to rope Prof Min into her plot when Yo-Han began planning the public trials.  Which is just within the past year or maybe two?
(8:15)  either way, it's looking like Prof. Min truly is a moral person who got tricked by Seon-Ah because he wanted to stop the televised trials, which seemed dangerous to him (same, dude).  My first reaction is that he's pretty naive, but he doesn't see the same Seon-Ah that we get to, so perhaps she's just that good at fooling people.  
They're having it both ways: he was conspiring with the enemy AND he's a moral center in this universe.  Surprisingly that actually works for me.
"Whatever it takes"  a theme of this show - everyone has made this promise and then asked if it was worth it
I'm predicting she's misjudging him here. i still believe he's one of the few not motivated by personal ambition. he has no interest in being chief justice, he's interested in right and wrong
"Someone had to become a monster to stop Kang Yo-Han" With Prof. Min's face sideways reflected in the table!  I think this is the first time they use the reflection framing for him? now that we know he's also participating in the games of power.
Ga-On.  You're just careening around this world like a pinball now.  You lost Su-Hyeon, then you thought Yo-Han had betrayed you, then as soon as you found out he hadn't, he was sent to jail and you discovered your mentor, your moral center had betrayed you instead.  I feel like you must not even know which way is up anymore.  
he's a reactive character - that's his role in this narrative, but they make it work so he doesn't feel passive or stupid or without agency
oh god, the bandage on the hand.  the framing continues to emphasize the intensity of Y & G's connection.  
(14:05) Seon-Ah's in pink again as she enters the den of power.  Pink because she's feeling safe and in control? and the first time we've seen her in pants and not a short skirt? I feel like she's dressing more for herself now because she feels secure enough in her power.  
Cigars again.  Last time we saw a cigar someone died. a servile president Heo.  He's in the fall part of his rise and fall.  This actor is great - the role could easily feel like a caricature, but he somehow manages to make him seem like a plausible human being.
Our Two Representative Businessmen are acting more and more like cackling hyenas.  hmm, interesting theory that Seon-Ah has here.
oh yeah, i keep forgetting about this Dream Village plot.  I think it's because it's never really felt like it's the reason why Yo-Han is battling these guys?  the show is either still keeping his motivations mysterious, or is just confused about them.
Ah, the wives! I was just thinking we hadn't seen them in a while.  I hope they're going to be doing their own plotting.  
oh god, this is creepy. This is getting very dystopian.
Ga-On's note to Elijah.  It's so sweet that he wants to comfort and reassure her.  and yet it's just reminding me I'm pissed that this plot twist doesn't make sense.  and is a confusing explanation of Yo-Han's behavior
brave boy, preparing to go into the dragon's cave to rescue his prince. He's lost all his protectors and now he has to become the schemer and protector.
I keep thinking about Yo-Han's motivation.  They haven't yet sufficiently connected the dots between 'wants to protect Elijah from the guilt of killing her parents' and 'devotes his whole life to a complicated plot to take down the shadow government, committing many immoral acts along the way.' Like, he was always an outsider, and an adrenaline junkie, and walked the line of becoming the monster that everyone thought he was. He was always an ends justifies the means person. I guess I'm struggling because the big church fire reveal was framed as giving us the key insight into Yo-Han's personality and motivations.  but it was just a small detail, really.  most of what explains his behavior either we already knew or they haven't told us yet. 
Is he devoted solely to the few people he loves, and let the world burn?  He's literally said this before. and a lot of his actions support it.  but his complex plotting seems only to make sense if he cares about humanity at large, or about an abstract idea of justice.  If the foundation isn't responsible for the fire, than revenge can't be the reason he's going after them.  and i believe that he's not interested in personal power for his own sake, he's not like Seon-Ah.  or in money or fame like the Two Representative Businessmen and Prez. Heo. The only other explanation he's stated (although it's always been ambiguous if we should trust this) is that he cares about humanity and justice. which is literally the opposite of "let the world burn" 
So. Is there going to be another reveal that the foundation was somehow to blame for the fire?  Or does Yo-Han blame them because the only reason they were at the church was because they tricked Isaac into a donation?  It's a tenuous connection to motivate a 10 year revenge plot, but I could believe it fit's Yo-Han's character.  He apparently killed that firefighter just for stealing a watch off Isaac's dead body.  But the problem is he hasn't said this, and he's explained a lot of reasoning by now.  and it's so slight a connection it needs to be overtly explained for me to buy that's the reason.
maybe it's a structural issue?  I think they're trying to tell two different stories - an intimate domestic story and a sprawling political story, and Yo-Han is the connection point between the two.  but the two stories have different requirements for the character's motivations, and the writers haven't fully integrated those contradictory demands.  I think it's theoretically possible to make it work, but very challenging
But, patience. I'm sure they'll tell us more, and there's a chance it will even make all these contradictions make sense.
life in prison.  People from Yo-Han's past are trying to come back and haunt  him now that he isn't protected. I'm not worried though.  even if he dies it won't be at the hand of these bit players.
(24:30) ok. adventure heist time.  Ga-On has smuggled himself into the medical center in a box.  what horrors await us?
i don't' know if it's intentional, but all this plastic sheeting is evoking the false mansion that Seon-Ah built for the kidnapping
well, this is disturbing.  I'm guessing it's all vibes, and there's no logical medical/research explanation for what we see, but the vibes are effective.
perfect timing on the espionage Ga-On! almost like you were the protagonist of a movie
WOW this is an interesting choice in the middle of a real life pandemic where people aren't trusting vaccines.  (apparently vaccine conspirecy theoreies are not a major problem in South Korea, but still)  
https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/19/16/9914/pdf?version=1660218026  (opens a PDF)
Ga-On put your cap back on! These people know what you look like! I can't see how he's filming, but presumably he is.
(min 29) somehow this cartoonishly evil conversation works.  It seems like it should feel over the top, but i guess i believe in the evil of billionaires, and their honesty amongst themselves.
laughter, music and slowmo, echoing that first dinner party he attended with these hyenas
they're definitely making it seem like the Two Representative Businessmen are holding the cards here.
gasp! I jumped.  but yay allies! Ga-On, I hope you're filming everything.
Seon-Ah looks genuinely shocked and appalled.  But what did she think was happening at the dream village? It's always tricky in stories, to depict the conscience of an ambitious schemer who's done plenty of evil herself.  How do you make it feel real that there are lines she won't cross?
 Oh no, the girl from the orphanage is here. Her grief over this one individual feels realistic.  She sees herself in this girl.  And she's already been seen to have emotional connections to individual people (Jae Hui and Yo-Han)
ah, so Min Jeong Ho accepted the Chief Justice position. What is he thinking? Has he been corrupted or does he still think he's doing good with this?  "doing good" was not how Seon-Ah sold it to him, though
(37:49) I don't believe it though.  Besides the fact this is not the kind of story they're telling, that didn't even show him die. But, what did happen then?
this music, their music, playing over Ga-On's face.  It still makes me sad even though I'm pretty sure he's not dead. and we see Ga-On in reflection, hmm.  Does that mean he's behind this fake-out, or just that there is scheming afoot in general?
Seon-Ah's reaction. her face. the wine. she did love him, in whatever form of love/obsession that was. and the way they're cutting between Ga-On and Seon-Ah's reactions. hmm. 
(also that was the most colorful outfit we've seen on her, or anyone, yet) 
hyenas in their yellowing den. 
i'm wondering - As these rich men take more and more power back, their meeting places get smaller, less stylized and more "realistic" if that's the word.  those early shots from above of that stylized table in those stylized grey rooms.  whereas this feels like the kind of ugly expensive old fashioned rooms where the backroom deals really happen.  and the lighting gives everything the same yellowish tint that most of the shots from the blue house had.  It's the lighting for people who don't care how they look because they don't need to impress.  
I don't know how to interpret this yet, because I still can't predict who is going to "win" in the end. although I guess my gut is saying it's going to be the Two Representative Businessmen, cause i can't see a way out, storywise.
(40:40)  What is Min Yong Sik doing here?  If i'm remembering correctly, this is the first time that one of our Two Representative Businessmen has come up with a plan independently (on screen, i'm sure they have lots of plotting happening that they don't show us).  This feels significant, like they're no longer background characters.
um, this shot of the back of her head in her desk chair while she's holding a cigar is making me nervous.  That is way too similar to the final frames of Minister Cha. like, these are very explicit parallels. 
unformed gender thoughts on women and cigars, and the hyena trio's misogyny. which also didn't really get shown until about halfway through the series.
all four of them look confident that they have the upper hand.  Who is right?
Seon-Ah even orders her assistant to get her a gun.  Is this going to be a re-writing of Cha's story, or an echo?
I'm excited to see what her plan is! I assume she's not going to straight up shoot the president on live tv.
Oh Jin Ju, the secret weapon in this scheming, one we wouldn't have expected from her silly beginnings.  I love this for her.  and somehow despite the odds, she managed to feel like a real person.
uh oh,  what is Ga-On planning? Why does Oh Jin Ju need to leave?  my immediate thought is: bomb?  and is he acting out of rage and despair because he thinks Yo-Han is dead?  or does he know that he's not, and this is part of a bigger plan.  I can't see how they could be working together, but they have a lot of secret friends that keep emerging when needed.  oh right, he was going to reveal the truth about the medical experiments at dream village.  Is this how? is he bravely soldiering on with his work of exposing evil, despite his grief?
oh wow.  he's been suicidal since Yo-Han got arrested.  This was planned before Yo-Han's (alleged) death.  no wonder he looked so blank faced at the news. but i don't think he's actually going to die.  We have 45 minutes left.  and i don't think it's that kind of story. (she reassures herself)
the plan sort of makes sense from a p.r. standpoint, i guess.
but also, Ga-On.  you've been so broken down.  There's been so much other plotting going on that I sort of forgot about your grief, but your grief is huge.
FUCKK! I was genuinely not expecting that! (47:40) but this is the perfect way to get us out of this predicament. 
also so fucking romantic.  This is not platonic.  there is no need to shove him up against the wall to disarm the bond. Yo-Han's James Bond smile, his hands on Ga-On's chest. the slow mo, the way they look at each other.  the way they can't stop touching each other.  That embrace!! (probably the closest thing we're getting to a kiss)
Also, Yo-Han has shifted the tone to confident and humorous.  it's heist movie vibes.  So I'm starting to feel hopeful we'll get a happy ending for these two after all. it may not be a logical victory, but i'll take it.
Is he bluffing? Who cares? He's hot.
oh, i thought that was the plan they made, they were going to use the fight to smuggle him out somehow.  or even switch places with the dead guy.  but the warden was shocked.
I see that Yo-Han is not fully reformed.  still unbothered by killing this guy. In fact, he looks a little high off of it.  That's less disturbing now that I know it wasn't premeditated.  I'm glad actually that he's staying a bit feral, a little amoral.
and Yo-Han adapted and came up with the same plan as me. (everybody is getting smuggled out in body bags)
The plot is flying at us fast and furious now.  it may not make sense, but it's gonna keep moving.  and I'll place a bet on our boys winning.  I don't know how this tonal shift is going to fit with Seon-Ah's storyline.
This man loves his vengeance.  (52:20)
(53:15) I had a sudden image of the 7 of them trapped inside the court room and killing each other off, gladiator style.  we know (assume) there's at least one gun in the room. it would be a convenient way to get rid of them all, but i don't think it's going to happen. a) it leaves Ga-On and Yo-Han too uninvolved.  and b) i just don't think its that kind of story.  But I would buy one or two of them dying.  the president?  Chairman Park? Chairman Min still has a scheme afoot that i'm expecting to see play out. 
of course.  This is cute. and obvious now that it's happening.  return to our roots - the public trials.
The wives finally get names! (or perhaps the subtitles finally give the names?)
yeah, i think they would react with a little more composure? or at least pull themselves together quickly.  they're used to being in the public eye, to maintaining an image.  i guess they are drunk
but mostly i expect this is how the show is going to resolve the unresolvable - the satisfying theatrics of a trial, the powerful conveniently acting like idiots, and just ignore what happens to the country after this power vacuum opens up.  
although i wonder what's going to happen with Seon-Ah's Chekhov's gun. I'm betting someone will die.  If forced to guess, I would say her, even with this tonal shift.
(58:24)  this moment though.  this moment with Ga-On and prof. Min. it works, it's poignant, i can feel the history and the heartbreak.
but i guess we've gone to a black and white thinking type of world.  Prof. Min needs to stay the bad guy, so that Yo-Han can be the good guy and Ga-On's choice is justified.  The frustrating thing is that it still makes sense for Ga-On to choose Yo-Han even if both are morally grey. but that doesn't wrap things neatly in a bow.  It could be that what we're seeing here is just Ga-On making that choice, but it feels like this is also the show's point of view.
Yo-Han just really wants to get the public to collectively murder somebody.  
I feel like he's not actaully going to set off the bomb, the tone is too cheerful for that.  but who knows at this point.  
i was right about the 'trapped in a death room' vibes.
At least this time we're not pretending he's a legit judge.  but we've gone back to a conveniently credulous public that will do whatever is necessary to move the plot along.
but Seon-Ah's face. this whole time
 I should stop trying to find logic in places where I know it doesn't exist, but it seems like people can vote as many times as they want?  How is that democracy?  (shushshush, we're here for the vibes. for Yo-Han looking like a badass.  stop thinking)
He's going to the courtroom?  
Min Yong Sik is muttering to himself. OH! he was scheming with Yo-Han since that meeting where he suddenly became an individual?  That's why he suggested the celebration here?  I wonder what he thought the plan was?
But why do any of them ever agree to do anything with each other?  it always seems to end in betrayal. 
Drama!  but he's not suicidal.  The tone of this doesn't match that at all.
Ga-On is freaking out though, understandably.  
oh, it was a threat against chairman Min, not a promise.  that makes more sense.
i love a long-legged Yo-Han leaning against his bedframe.
I assume this part is all filmed and broadcast as well?
ooooh.  and they're connecting it back to the church fire as well.  unfortunately it's just a reminder of how flimsy that plotline turned out to be.
It's still powerful imagery though.  the lights are going on one by one. the rachmaninoff over the slow mo fighting and hair pulling that echoes the chaos in the classroom flashback.  the switch to that tender violin music and then the footage from the church fire. Yo-Han's face as he stands there unmoving. his face! his "hyung"
(1:09:02) and this is their final faceoff.  black vs. white.  waiting unmoving on opposite sides of the room as the power brokers fight like desperate children, not even noticing Seon-Ah. 
about 20 minutes remaining. 
and THAT was the correct use of Chekhov's gun.  perfect timing
Yo-Han's little smile.  I think he does love her, a little, in a way. he knows they are kindred spirits.
this faceoff. "Is it the two of us, in the end?" "Come with me, Seon-Ah."  
I think this ending is working for me after all.  bringing us tightly back to our main relationships. 
"Come with me, Seon-Ah." and that slight smile. oh, I'm getting chills.  maybe i was wrong, maybe he has to die for Ga-On to be free? I don't know!! This is getting intense again. their faces.  her slight smile. the tears in both their eyes.  they see themselves in each other. wow.  both completely ignoring the people around them begging. eyes fixed on each other
and it's not a performance of sexuality.  all their previous interactions had this layer of pretend sexual seduction. but this is just them, stripped bare at the end, seeing themselves in each other's eyes.
exhale. i'm both shocked and yet was also expecting that.  She was given too many exact parallels to Minister Cha. But why did she make that decision?
(i'm getting concerned that all three of our major women have died (and all by gun))
the last lines of the song, right before she shot herself, were"I cannot stop it anymore, it swallows me whole. save me from myself"  was that what she was doing, sacrificing herself to save Yo-Han?  she jumped out the window before for him (so far as they've explained)  "damm it, this is bullshit" she said before she put the gun to her head.  
oh god, the broken plate. and his kindness. heart wrenching
more thoughts on her "you know, i always loved you, young master" later
this overhead shot. her white dress (she wears white to murder) Yo-Han's face.  his sigh.
and as soon as the Yo-Han &  Seon-Ah relationship is resolved, Ga-On comes rushing through the door. less than 20 minutes to resolve everything.
I don't know whether to believe him.  it really depends on which story they're trying to tell.  A[repentant?] Yo-Han, ready to die for justice and because he thinks he's done with his work, feels compellingly intense.  and it gives Ga-On the chance to save him.  or to lose him.  and even with Elijah his love has been the sacrificial kind, not the stay with her kind.
but it just doens't feel like who he is.  he's not suicidal. and he would not let Ga-On stay there to die too.  that just feels absolutely out of character for any version of him.  
Once again I wonder, is this being broadcast to the nation?
"I will go with you." "You will be the hero.  For the devil, I will be enough."  wow what lines.  I guess he's genuine? and they're going for emotional intensity over plot and character logic?  i'll buy in, these guys do intensity so well.
holy fuck
and the intensity delivered.  I'm actually crying right now.  I wanted to see them together. elijah. my babies. Even though two minutes ago I was complaining that it makes no sense, it's still emotionally devastating.  my god. Ga-On.  What are you going to do? you've lost absolutely everyone.  I want to hope that it was a trick, we didn't see him die, just the ceiling falling down.  but... ah, who even knows at this point
the full circle symbolism of him destroying this courtroom at the end.  
Ga-On sitting on the curb.  Oh Jin Ju's kindness.  him wandering that house alone.  I keep crying.
I want to have hope for a twist, but I'm scared.  
remembering the times when one of them was shirtless. their history. (yeah this ain't a platonic relationship)
[long exhale] oh. this memory of the cards.  and Elijah wasn't there.  I'm starting to have hope.  Hope is a dangerous thing. oh fuck.
(1:21:55) holy fuck, yes!!! YES!! this blueprint. I think I'm allowed to hope now.  Are my dreams coming true?  Is this happy little family going to hide from the evil world together?  
they really just wanted to fit all the endings in there.
ok, whew. i didn't really think elijah would have committed suicide. but for a second there I was kinda worried.
What is this "just the two of us" nonsense, Yo-Han? you're not going to bring your boyfriend?  you left him hints.
ok, we're wrapping everybody up.  The housekeeper.  Judge Oh..
send Ga-On to Switzerland at the last second, show.  or have Yo-Han pop up somewhere unexpected to surprise Ga-On.  please don't let me down. you don't have to make them gay.  just let them be together.  Ga-On is alone now, you've gotten rid of everyone else in his life, you can't leave him without his new family.  please don't let me down.  we've made it this far.
structurally though, i think it's likely.  We have at least five minutes left and we're saying farewell to the supporting characters.  and i really don't think they'll leave him alone, this is turning into a happy ending type ending.  and an alone Ga-On is a melancholy ending.
oh, i guess they've gotta try and wrap up the political stuff too.  a sober meeting in a sober room (one we've never seen before) and a sobor new group of people (whom we've never seen before) we'll pretend that starting over with all new politicians will make things ok so our heroes are free to leave the stage.
(1:29:58) hmm, maybe I read that one slightly wrong.  It looks like there will be infighting and power games among this new group.  we do get an inspiring hero speech from Ga-On about justice and responsibility. and a brief defense of Yo-Han
I guess another possible ending is he becomes the hero he was set up to be from the beginning, and stays to work tirelessly to reform the judicial system.  But even then I think we'll see a text message or something from Yo-Han in the final seconds.
I really want him to go to Switzerland though.
ok, Ga-On yet again asking the questions that are on my mind. "It's the same, nothing has changed. What should I do now, to help create a world that doesn't need Yo-Han?"
wait. Is this it?! Is this how they're making my dreams come true?! not to mention Ga-On's dreams! 
oh fuck yeah! who cares if it makes any sense, this is amazing!  that salute at the top of the balcony!  they're having Ga-On run to his love!! 
oh my god.  their faces. the tears in their eyes. the love the connection.  it maybe looked a little like a goodbye, like a one final taking him in before he's gone forever.  But.  i'm going to choose to believe it was taking him in after you  had almost lost him. because Yo-Han's little nod just before he walked away? i'm going to interpret that as a "follow me"
ok. ok
I guess they're going with an open ending.  They had Yo-Han walk away and Ga-On stand there staring after him.  So viewer's choice.  It could be that it was their last farewell.  Ga-On stays and works to reform the government.  
But. they gave us enough for me to believe that Ga-On follows him and they end up together, somewhere, whether it's Korea or Switzerland, whether Ga-On still keeps working on reforms, or he retires and becomes a hermit with his new family.
Look, Yo-Han has already returned from being lost at least three times. He's gonna pop up in Ga-On's life again.  
fucking homophobia.  I don't know what forces were at play that led to them making what is very obviously a romance and then censoring it.  but the romance side did manage to give us an ending that felt happy with only a little squinting.  so good job them.
I could probably write a lot more words about the themes and storytelling of this series. But I'm just gonna take some time to recover from that emotional roller coaster of the final 30 minutes, and bask in their love.  
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The Devil Judge: Episode 3
I just finished The Devil Judge and something about this show compelled me to take copious notes - it had emotional intensity and layers of mystery. These are long and rambling, so they're likely not of interest to anyone else, but since I spent all that time writing it I decided, why not post it. Perhaps someone will find it interesting.
Below are my moment-to-moment reactions, predictions and analysis as I watched episode 3.
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This contains SPOILERS up through ep. 5
This is cleaned up only slightly. I followed the spelling given in the Viki subtitles. I mostly don't explain what I'm reacting to, so this will probably only make sense if you've seen the episode recently. Occasionally I give timestamps. I took these notes while re-watching the beginning after writing this post and this. I had watched up through episode 5, so some notes reference things that happen later.  
Why does he so pointedly ask Yun Su-Hyeon if she's G's girlfriend? (It's because  he's already interested in and becoming possessive of him. Romance or at minimum corruption through sexual tension). 
Leave Judge Kim to me! A battle over his soul between the cop and the judge? Corruption thriller, but it also fits a gothic romance to have a second potential love interest who is supposedly kinder and better than our hero (St. John Rivers from Jane Eyre)
So many things in this house are under dust covers. The wallpaper. Dark wood and the way the light comes in from the windows. Isolated dark gray stone English(?) style mansion on a cliff over a lake. Strange girls appearing out of nowhere. Gothic vibes! 
Sort of scary, but the music is also kind of romantic. 
Does Y suspect Jeong Seon Ah (JSA) of being behind the bomb? He's certainly implying it (13:30). Was she? She also seems to be implying that she was in this conversation. 
On the other hand, he's won a lot of public sympathy from the bomb. So maybe it backfired on her, or she has a more complicated plot. Or maybe it was Y. Of course it could be someone else entirely. 
Oh interesting! Elijah asks Y if he's dating her (judge Oh) and he answers "what are you talking about. They're my associate judges, so-"  (emphasis mine). Could be just the translation, but ...
This is immediately after he changed the bandages of a half naked Ga-On. And this is when he gets cute and pouty. 
And the way he taunts E is very sibling-like, not at all how he delivers threats in the political realm. 
Finding excuses to keep G at his house! (19:30)
The cop also floats the idea of an inside job
So based on the hoodie scene with furniture guy (starting 25:45), Y was not behind the bomb. And he says he doesn't have any questions, does that mean he knows who's behind it? so I guess he's just out for revenge? Is he so angry because he almost died or because G almost died? 
Furniture guys says "someone from the foundation ordered me too"
He almost kills furniture guy but Mysterious Assistant stops him. His expression is... hmm. (27:10)
(It does seem implausible that this one guy in this warehouse is responsible for all the furniture but I think that's a suspension of disbelief thing, not a plot point)
"Go tell your owner that he should come talk to me directly."  So does he think the Chairman is in control? Who is "he?" Or is it a translation issue? (A brief google implies that this is the likely the case - there are no third person pronouns.)
Oh! (27:34) Mysterious Assistant outright asks "is this because of Judge Kim Ga-On?"  And Y looks shifty and walks away without answering. Gothic romance signals!!! Protecting the ingenue. 
Immediately returns home and heads for G's bedroom. Gives him back (tosses him) his phone (It seems you behaved. A present for behaving.) and then lounges (somewhat sexily) on the  chaise-lounge. 
I feel like there's no reason for Y to be there. He just wanted to see G. And he's pretending to be aloof. 
(29:19) What a coy flirtatious pose. Looking up through his lashes indeed!
The way he flirts with G is different than how he flirts as part of power games with everyone else. More vulnerable maybe?
It's not all flirtation. Y is still trying to keep G from finding his secrets and G is still investigating. 
Next political intrigue gathering (32:15) includes 6 people. All the same as the first except the president's wife replaces Minister Cha. 
President Heo is speaking in opposition to the Dream Village. The Two Representative Businessmen are laughing at him.
Prez Heo  is really portrayed as a buffoon. 
Oh yeah JSA comes in and threatens him during this massage. I can't tell if he's actually too stupid to realize he's being threatened. Does he just notice the bribe?
Somehow the depiction of how she uses sex to gain power doesn't feel misogynistic to me like it often does. Is it because there's a wide variety of female characters? Is it because Judge Kang also uses his sexuality, albeit in a very different way? Is it because it's a little more subdued than usually done in American films? 
Who is the prosecutor that calls the cook?  (42:35). We never get a good look at his face. 
And who is the walking woman intercut with this? Who is she running from? 
Oh, she must be the "female part-timer"
(1:03:36) housekeeper to G: "what a curious princess you are". Gothic! 
Housekeeper says basement room is Y's
His origin flashback starts at ep 3, (1:04:35)
Isaac gives adolescent Y: Eichmann in Jerusalem, Crime and Punishment and The Moon and Sixpence.
The Moon and Sixpence: unreliable narrator and multiple povs, Wikipedia describes main character as "a solitary, sociopathic and destructive genius"
Oh. In this first flashback ep 3 at min. 1:09, Isaac stops the father from beating Y. In the memory in episode five, Y fantasizes his adult self doing the same thing. Hmmm. 
Also Isaac is seen wearing the cross pendant around his wrist here. I think the implication is it was their mother's. 
In the church story, Y has it on his wrist, even while Isaac is still alive. Hmm. 
Housekeeper: Why do you hate Y so much? Father: "Because he resembles me. That boy resembles me so much.  But Isaac, Isaac is different. Yo-Han will someday devour his older brother."
Housekeeper: "But before all that, Young Master Yo-Han was already someone who was capable of anything."  "He made the maid who liked him jump off the second floor and fed weed killer to the hunting dog the chairman cherished." 
(1:11:10) - hoodie time. Vengeance on the firefighter who we later see stole dead Isaac's watch. Y chases him and he falls off the roof. Y never touches him. Y remains expressionless. Takes the watch from the dying firefighter/beggar and walks away. 
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The Devil Judge: Episode 4
I just finished The Devil Judge and something about this show compelled me to take copious notes - it had emotional intensity and layers of mystery. These are long and rambling, so they're likely not of interest to anyone else, but since I spent all that time writing it I decided, why not post it. Perhaps someone will find it interesting.
Below are my moment-to-moment reactions, predictions and analysis as I watched episode 4.
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This contains SPOILERS up through ep. 5
This is cleaned up only slightly. I followed the spelling given in the Viki subtitles. I mostly don't explain what I'm reacting to, so this will probably only make sense if you've seen the episode recently. Occasionally I give timestamps. I took these notes while re-watching the beginning after writing this post and this. I had watched up through episode 5, so some notes reference things that happen later.  
"You investigated a promising politician 19 years ago for accepting bribes. You knew that this politician did not accept money."  ...declared guilty, ended up committing suicide, "leaving behind a so who was a middle school student" (5:00)
Oh. Is this connected to Mysterious Assistant? He's crying and says thank you.  So who is he? If true, why does Y do all this to avenge this guy's father? 
(17:00)  giving him the watch. "because from this moment on, you need to live in the same time as me."  !!!
"Do I have to dress you?" "I can dress myself"  !!!
Probably worth looking at the lyrics of this song, seems to be their theme. (The English one, mentions drought)
Ooh erotic tension. 
The reveal shot! (17:53). So filmed like a romance here. 
Possessive of G in his clothes! Jealous of E pulling him away! 
The small satisfied smile (19:50). And it looks to me more like fondness than satisfaction at a plot coming together. And I believe the actor is good enough to make that distinction clear. 
Identical outfits except black coat/white coat! 
G is such an ingenue in this whole gala scene.  Y's proprietary smile! Dragging by the wrist! 
At the dinner party- all our main players except Minister Cha, prez's wife. 2 other women- the businessmen's wives? One empty seat and yet Y and G are next to each other at the end of the table.  
Devilish dinner party. Devilish laughter. Feels like a scene from The Great Gatsby. 
Ooh. The chairman's hand is on the waitress's ass.  The shot makes it hard to tell. 
Interesting that the case JSA chose was a sexual assault one. I presume she was the one who made that case happen. 
What JSA tells G about Y: minute 36. 
(37:50) the car ride home. Y's fingers on the window, very sultry. Grabbing the wheel: pay attention to me!!
Yeah, despite the topic, Y's tone reads to me like genuine flirtation, not like an attempt to corrupt. There's a slight unguardedness to him. I think despite himself. He just wants G's attention on him always. 
(1:00:35). Conversation in the study after the flogging. 
Yeah here y is not flirting and you can see the change in his demeanor. His guard is up. 
What here is calculated? His anger feels vulnerable, but only after G asks if he killed Isaac. After Y throws G to the floor his rant seems more calculated. 
(1:02:30) church fire flashback. 
Present: chairman Seo, Prez Heo and wife, minister Cha and husband, both businessmen and their wives. Not JSA. 
Not the point, but Ji Sung looks hot in every outfit. 
The fire flashback choreography felt odd, I don't know if that's because the flashback was false or not. Why did it take Y so long to notice the fire behind him? But the pauses are probably just for dramatic effect. 
Oh, Isaac does lose his glasses in the fire. 
Not sure how Y and E survived, or at minimum got severely burned. Is it because the flashback is a lie or is it a storytelling convenience? 
Is the cross on his back from the wood that fell on him here?
Cha Gyeong Hui is the only person we see directly harming his family, (stepping over Elijah). I guess prez pushes him aside as he tries to go in to save his family. . And no one helps. 
(1:15:30) "Indeed, people like these sort of stories."
But his expression before, even with his back turned to G. That looked like real anguish. Is his statement a defense mechanism? Trying to gather himself back to his cold avenger persona after being so vulnerable with G? Or was he lying? 
The song that immediately starts! "I don't know what my expression is. In my memory of the past. Even though I tried to recall it, I can't remember it at all. I can't breathe."
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The Devil Judge: Episode 5
I just finished The Devil Judge and something about this show compelled me to take copious notes - it had emotional intensity and layers of mystery. These are long and rambling, so they're likely not of interest to anyone else, but since I spent all that time writing it I decided, why not post it. Perhaps someone will find it interesting.
Below are my moment-to-moment reactions, predictions and analysis as I watched episode 5.
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I wrote about my initial impressions, up to episode 5, here and here.
This is cleaned up only slightly. I followed the spelling given in the Viki subtitles. I mostly don't explain what I'm reacting to, so this will probably only make sense if you've seen the episode recently. Occasionally I give timestamps.
Interesting that they do so little to change his look between Ga-On and Isaac. That has to be intentional but why I'm not sure yet. 
Hello abs. 
"I don't think about a guy I've already killed. If I actually killed him, that is." To E at (3:45)
It does seem like she believes he killed her father. 
(5:20). Why does G confess here? Is he totally won over by y's tale? Or is it strategic? He must know that Y already knows. 
Hmm. Does Y feel seen by g? Did he figure out the frame of the revenge plan? (5:45).
(7:55) "Even if no one else understands. I do." And Y's subtle expression 
Then the demand to choose. 
"It's fun, being with you" what an interesting explanation to give G. I wonder what was the Korean word they translated as fun.
(9:00)  This mysterious exchange with Mysterious Assistant (who was hiding in the study?)
"It is as predicted."  "Then why are you doing that?" [what exactly? Letting him back on the panel?] "Who knows? Seeing that I'm being shown such sympathy, should I say I'm a little embarrassed? And I don't have much experience saying that." 
(22:30)  Where are the cops raiding? 
(24:00) Y and Mysterious Assistant plotting on the roof. 
(24:38) His smile! In response to G telling him to eat or he'll get wrinkles. 
His playfulness with the electronic butler. Cute but maybe also sad - is that the only 'person' he can be playful with? 
Also he's probably in a good mood because of Ga-On cooking for him and teasing him. 
And he eats it! 
Secret blue vest back
(29:04) G and  Yun Su Hyeon (YSH) conversation about Y, and about her protecting G.
He's starting to pull away from her and toward Y here. 
Baby G's earring! 
Same injury as in flashback with mentor? Or just similar make up?
Also her flashback where she explicitly says she becomes a cop to keep rescuing G. 
He also tells her to be careful - it's too big for one person.  YSH - ‘it's too late now’. 
(33:00) loaded convo between Y and Chief Justice. 
Same prosecutor here, I think. (Starting around 35:00) Did he plot with JSA?
39:45 JSA explaining (sort of) her plan to Minister Cha. 
Oh, Y and JSA don't talk here, just significant looks. 
(41:19)  Oh wow. The first thing we see on the newspaper he's cutting is the ruler, presumably the one his dad used to hit him with? 
This is all very staged. By Y for G? By the directors for the audience?
Y deliberately confusing G about his motives. The way they stared at each other! 
"I'm used to being seen as a monster, but you looking at me that way, with that face, hurts my heart."  (Y is trying to be manipulative, but maybe he also subconsciously means it? And obviously referring to Isaac's face, but is he also perhaps getting fond of G's face?)
(I haven't even got into the implications of G looking like Isaac. Is it supposed to be as exact as it is? If this really is a romance, are they implying some incestuousness on Y's part?  What does this mean?!)
This whole conversation on monsters and victims and pretending to be strong. Y's shifting expressions! "You do waver if I talk like this". 
(43:30). Memory/fantasy of protecting his child self from his fathers beating. (The ruler). 
This child actor is so good, and also matches Ji Sung so well. It feels very believable that they're the same character. 
"Don't hit me. Don't hit me."  😢 and featuring the cross on his wrist. 
"I am fed up with this house." (46:35) (that sounds gothic) oh my god his face. 
Oh, the lawn/window scene immediately follows. Y has taken to his bed and gets up when he hears them talking. 
The moment when I realized this was a gothic romance: Ga-On is playing with Elijah on the sunny lawn and Yo-Han is in the dark house, in his expensive dressing gown, peering through the curtains staring at him. Ga-On leans back on his arms in what is frankly a flirtatious pose, and their eyes meet.
(48:18) - G's face! His unintentionally(?) seductive pose! 
(48:40) Next is the mentor scene and a flashback around the motorcycle. Why did G get injured in the past? Is it plot relevant? 
Mystery characters so far: The tall man that either assists Y or possibly Y reports to. And now this longhaired woman on the expensive motorcycle 
Mentor asks G to choose. G pushes back (uncharacteristic?) (54:00) 
G is now starting to side with Y against his mentor and his protector. He's been forced to make a choice. Explicitly asked by both Y and his mentor. This fits both a corruption story and a romance story. 
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