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bibxrbie · 6 months
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Every time I see the Star Wars fandom characterise Luke as apolitical or unpolitical, or in some ways unaware of politics, I get so incredibly frustrated.
"Luke joined the Rebel Alliance to fly. He just loves to fly!"
Shut up! Luke Skywalker isn't some idiot, gallivanting around the galaxy for shits and giggles.
ANH shows that even before he found Artoo he had intentions of joining the Rebel Alliance as a pilot, not because he loved to fly, but because he knew that he was a good pilot and that was how he could contribute to the liberation of the people from the Empire. But he also knew that he lacked the training needed to fly in space and that his family could not afford to send him into space, so he intended to join the Imperial Fleet, knowingly taking advantage of the system, to get him both of these things, to abandon the Fleet and joining the Rebellion.
Luke Skywalker grew up under the influence of two oppressive regimes: Hutt Space and the Empire. Slavery was literally happening in his backyard, and he was not unaware of it. Even though he was never a slave, you can't tell me that didn't have an effect on him? Seeing people owned and sold and destroyed like they're nothing; hell, he comes from a family of slaves! ROTJ shows that he has opinions about the Hutt empire too: wearing black in a desert world, refusing to speak Huttese even when he may understand the language? Political rebellion, baby. Maybe he even joined the Rebellion in hopes of using their power after destroying the Empire to one day get rid of the Hutts, which would make sense for him to think considering the Empire has only existed for 20 years and the Hutt empire lived for a lot longer
Also, he denies Vader's offer to rule the galaxy. Yes, it is a moment of trauma and anguish, but also he denies it because he fundamentally disagrees with the system of imperial fascism. He would literally die than willingly join the Empire.
He is political! He is aware of politics and oppression, and he is pro-revolution!
The other Star Wars content makes a point to show this. He frees slaves from the Empire, reads history and philosophy and gets angry at people who trade Jedi artefacts on the black market and at those who willingly work with the Empire.
He might not have the education, power, or language that Leia had, but he has political opinions. And to eradicate that part of his character is an injustice to him.
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mearchy · 1 year
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Is anyone else just in complete bafflement and wonder at Andor being actually greenlit by Disney those assholes in the corporate office? CANON lesbian representation, overt allusions to in-universe racialization of characters (Diego Luna is described as a man with dark features in the police APB and it actively contributes to his experience in the universe!!), police brutality and criticism of the police state spelled out in the most painstaking terms possible, and the Empire!!! People have already talked about how scary the TIE fighters are allowed to be. The Empire isn’t cute. It’s terrifying and it’s run by real humans committing atrocities, not just monsters and faceless soldiers and comic relief incompetents. Again and again I feel like I’m seeing things that have never been allowed to feel so raw and real in mainline SW, if they were present at all. And the fact that every other aspect of the show is on point, that no sacrifices in story or characterization or worldbuilding or cinematography or production value were made in the process — I don’t even have words. Idk what the general sentiment of the Star Wars fandom is, I haven’t been paying attention. But if Andor has only ten fans I am one of them. If Andor has only one fan it is me. If the entire world is against Andor I am against the world.
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nateofgreat · 6 months
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One thing that's kind of funny to me are the people who say "X show/movie/whatever ruined the Empire by making them incompetent" like there was ever a point in Star Wars where they weren't by meta standards.
Straight out of the gate in A New Hope they get exactly one scene where they're competent (again, by meta standards) in defeating a Rebel crew and after that it's all downhill. The only battle they ever win being on Hoth and only because they had gigantic walkers.
They were a meme long before Disney, so I can't help but chuckle every time I see someone complain that X Disney project ruined Stormtroopers. There's nothing to ruin, they always sucked.
Which is why it's best to look at them from a narrative perspective rather judging them by the standards of a real-life military.
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evesartblog · 2 months
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ziggyyyystardust · 5 months
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I’m sorry but I hate the way people completely disregard the fact that Luke is a Jedi, like he’s literally the og Jedi?? I’ve seen a lot of people talk about how much “better” his new Jedi order would’ve been because he would’ve removed the attachment rules or whatever, and I think that that type of characterisation really disregards the essence of Luke’s character and what he stood for. People seem to cite him bringing his father back from the dark and being close with Leia but that doesn’t mean he’s attached to them in the way Jedi view attachment, he cared about his father because Luke is a caring person and wanted to help him, acting as if it’s only because Vaders his dad really disregards a lot of the character development Luke went through from a new hope till return of the Jedi.
Also it seems really odd to ignore it as he 1: shows a genuine want to become a Jedi and all that being a Jedi involves 2: (mainly rotj) cares what Yoda and Obi-Wan have to say and the advice they give him 3: says word for word “I am a Jedi” sure he may not have the training of a Jedi but it’s pretty clear that he really does care.
On a similar note - I’ve seen people talk about it but people also tend to disregard the fact that Luke was part of the rebellion?? It’s treated like “oh silly sunshine boy just wants to fly ships he doesn’t know what politics are🥰🥰” it completely infantilises his entire character, his beliefs and what he cares about. We see in ANH that he has interest in the rebellion, knows of the clone wars and vaguely of the Jedi, and in the deleted scene with Biggs they both talk about defecting to the rebellion and fighting against the empire. These scenes clearly show his political beliefs and how he was against the empire even before they killed his Aunt and Uncle. It does him a disservice to ignore who he is as a person and to treat him as if he’s just a child who likes ships, it removes any sense of agency or conviction when he’s treated that way
Point is I wish more people would treat him like a mature adult who is capable of making his own choices and is an actual Jedi who follows the code.
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bronzebraids-art · 4 days
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You cannot tell me this isnt Eli after every mission with Thrawn
Y’know when you get the extreme urge to draw that one stupid idea that showed up in your brain?
Yeah first Eli Vanto sketch and it had to be a meme reference
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darth-memes · 8 months
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asocial-skye · 1 year
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This is probably elaborated on a lot more in detailed meta, but for all of the shit that Lucas has pulled and all of his questionable decisions, Palpatine is probably his greatest triumph as a villain within narrative. Yes, he is absolutely a cartoon with no redeeming qualities, and Anakin definitely has a more dynamic character arc, but it's still incredible.
Star Wars as a franchise is associated with war and wartime: laser sword battles, epic forbidden romance, last stand trench runs against powerful enemies. It's all action, stylized violence and "rule of cool." There is good character writing and plot of course, but the public perception of Star Wars as a whole is about the cool space wizards and laser guns.
So it's absolutely curious that Lucas, in a trilogy that he said was geared towards children, had his villain do none of the things that made Star Wars so famous. Palpatine never fought ever. Except in Revenge of the Sith, Palpatine's horrible crimes all stemmed from his politics, and his cunning. Part of the Jedi's blindness to Sidious was that he was playing them on a field that they didn't expect: politics.
The Jedi are not politicians, nor have any interest in politics; the movies make this painfully clear. (The fact that the Council just goes and attempts to execute Palpatine, a popular leader who was "democratically" elected-I will give the Jedi credit; Palpatine is a monster, and killing him then and there was probably necessary- shows that there aren't the most politically minded) Palpatine literally does more damage to the entire galaxy that has repercussions for a generation- seriously, people like Biggs probably lived and died within the Empire- than Anakin could ever do during Operation: Knightfall or even as his tenure as Vader. And the Jedi can't do anything to stop it because they refused to play the game. In fact, one could make the argument that refusing to play only meant that Palpatine could carry out his agenda even faster.
It's almost like the bad guy won because any damage wreaked by an army of space wizards can be done a thousandfold by one politician. And it's like the lesson is that if you turn a blind eye to the injustices in your government, the corruption festers until it turns into something unspeakably horrid, and by then it'll be too late.
That's something to think about.
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jaigeye · 1 year
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WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION - Sonne by Rammstein & Star Wars
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short-wooloo · 1 month
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"There's like no logical way the CIS would have ended up like the empire"
Yes, it would have, that's the only way it could have ended
The Separatists are: an authoritarian imperialist slaver state controlled by a dark side cult with power concentrated in the hands of military and corporate leaders that uses the trappings of democracy to create a facade fools people into thinking they have power and is determined to wipe out the Jedi
The empire is: an authoritarian imperialist slaver state controlled by a dark side cult with power concentrated in the hands of military and corporate leaders that uses the trappings of democracy to create a facade that fools people into thinking they have power and is determined to wipe out the Jedi
Couldn't have ended up like the empire? Please, the separatists are the blueprint for the empire!
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...and some Uniforms & Heraldry templates for the Empire, after the High Elf and Wood Elf ones.
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Just thinking about how the clones - a group engineered purely to be a faceless military to die in the name of a Republic whose ideals they would never experience - have infinitely more humanity, personality, and individuality than the stormtroopers that replaced them, a military made of the everyday people
And how of these two, only one of them is truly faceless
The clones fought to find their humanity, the Empire sold theirs
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kala-fiorek · 2 years
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Since I finally had time to design Anakin’s prosthetic to something more sand-resistant and something I would like more in general, I also along the way changed my mind about how I’ll be doing character portraits for my fic. Hence I decided to finally post those two as they are.
> New Anakin and Obi-Wan > Ferus Olin and Roan Lands
Also added my designs of their weapons :) @unhealthily-obsessing
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The Empire Armies Book (8th Ed) Cover Art by Paul Bonner
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