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doggoartz · 7 months

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#art #digital art #the miraculous adventures of ladybug and chat noir #shadybug #shadybug and claw noir #emonette #hehe #mlb #mlb fanart #ml fandom

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ilikelookingatthings · 2 months

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Thoughts on Miraculous Ladybug : A Comment from YouTube I'm proud of about themes and Gabriel

and don't get me STARTED on Gabriel. the undercut and sabotaged any nuance this man had for 5 freaking seasons. every time he showed nuance or good feelings, they undercut it by forcing him to do something worse to snuff out any sense of sympathy or complexity, so we know who the bad guy and good guy is. yet they try to ham fist a last-minute redemption?!

don't get me wrong I actually DO want a redeemable complex Gabriel but its VERY confusing and just BAD how they handled it. at the very least they could have made it better if they literally said he was good and genuinely had good intentions to save his wife. after all she was 'missing' which means the plan was to use the wish to wake her up and she could come back using going missing as a cover. He wasn't raising the dead as she was in a magical coma.

he has a fix it as he knew if he lost that the ladybug miraculous would fix things and if he won, he could use the ladybug miraculous to fix any damage he did. by making 'hawkmoth' the villain it means people would have a target outside of the victims and the victims technically have to agree to the powers, so Gabe has the illusion of consent. and his plan to make a villain was to lure the ladybug and chat miraculous out of hiding by forcing them to activate to fix the problem since he couldn't track it down otherwise.

Overall, yes, it's not 'good' but his plan made sense in a way of minimizing damage for just wanting to save his wife. play up the fact they had no one to ask for help since the guardians were gone...from his view he was 'acting' as a villain. he had no training and didn't even have a properly translated book and wasn't chosen for his role.

just point to the fact Gabe has been using his miraculous of emotions wrong. he has been amplifying his own negative emotions to feel others negative emotions and forcing a fixation on the miraculous to get his victims to try to steal them. we have literally seen how even being a little emotionally off can have consequences.

Feast with fu was a rouge Senti-monster that sensed Fu's negative emotions, negative emotions that weren't even a part of why he made the Senti-being (which was to get him some snacks, Marinette's miraculous immediately timing down when she used it to separate Adrien and Chloe instead of attacking bubbler due to her jealousy, how Tikki's snack attack affected Mari when Mari transformed. and how Akuma Victims are prone to making dumb mistakes and you literally can't reason with them properly and act more fixated and aggressive.

they could have fixed the situation by just pointing out as a side effect from using his miraculous the way he was...his personality was literally getting twisted like his Akumas due to using mis miraculous in a way it wasn't supposed to be intended. Even more with how they mention using multiple ones can cause a strain on you and literally make you insane.

that way it would validate the times Gabe was reasonable or genuinely cared as the real him while also validating and explaining all the times he became SO much worse and cartoonishly evil.

while I would have preferred Adrien actually being there in the final battle with hawkmoth..... if they just played up that Mari being more willing to sympathize and see the villians genuinely needed help and weren't just evil was due to adrien's/chat's influence because that is adrien's strength in the show. his sympathy and ability to think deeper on motivations and not just punish and how he helped teach mari to not take things entirely at face value and be more patient.

heck the final battle could have worked if they played up the Mari and gabe are actually genuinely VERY similar. they have LOTS of parallels in the show...

like I think they were going for a parallel to collector/the end of collector when mari went to him to give him the book she took(even if lila took it first) where gabe surprised us by him admiring ehr stepping forward and not being mad at her, even answering her questions and agreeing not to tell adrien when she asked him to keep silent. and a reminder about how gabe did give a genuine apology to adrien at the end of collector when he could have gotten away with not doing so since adrien DID steal the book from his locker...Gabe genuinely apologized in depth.

but because the show had spent most of the season undercutting any goodness in Gabriel again with no explanation to cover it like saying it was the influence of him going insane like his victims due to how he had been using his miraculous....it just feels unearned and messed up. even more if he was going to use the wish...why couldn't he had used it so Nathalie and the mom would be okay? if his plan had always been to use himself in case there was a price how would Mari have reacted?

like I still don't get why she trusted him at all. and because they never mentioned Gabe going insane or his behavior was due to how he handled the miraculous (like Akuma victims)

...it just comes across as Gabe just being genuinely terrible and abusive as him as a default for most of the show which makes the redemption/him fighting his choice WEIRD.

like please for the love of GOD WHY did they not just make it a side effect of using his brooch the way he did literally! it would have used the fact they primed us to sympathize/not judge what people do under the Akuma influence/in the deepest throes of their negative feelings because its prompted by them being twisted by the magic to at least give Gabe a BUFFER(for the audience).

It would make him 'fighting' so to speak, literally him fighting how he had twisted himself literally with the way he used the miraculous...like how people can fight drugs or the fought akums before. and the tragedy that Nathalie thought Gabe was just bad...not realizing her enabling him using the brooch the way he did twists someone she genuinely cared about.

like, it is easy to notice at judge the physical effects of the peacock broach, but the mental effect of the butterfly is HONESTLY terrifying/scary and has so many implications if their plan was to hint that original Gabe was more similar to Betterfly.

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I think it works even more because it would also explain why Gabe seemed different in this specific fight because he didn't know Adrien was chat noir. people often use Gabe's reaction to Adrien being Chat Noir to validate seeing Gabe as just an abusive horrible person...but what I've also seen is if Gabe actually talks or is around Adrien for enough time Gabe WILL soften to some degree...pointing to how Gabe does care for Adrien and that it grounds him more in his original motive/personality.

So, the change might be because Gabe has been amplifying his negative feelings so 'hawkmoth' is more focused and fixated on the miraculous and defeating ladybug and chat...finding out Adrien is chat makes the 'hawkmoth' affects take over more.

like how we saw Nate and others relax at times around certain people that breakthrough the delusion (like when Nate was actually convinced to leave Chloe alone to go hang with Marinette) but he snapped back into his villain mindset when Mari's actions echoed Chloe.

I think what's worse is it's not even a rewrite since all the blocks are THERE but the show just never acknowledges it.

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oceanspray5 · 1 year

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Honestly the one character on Miraculous that won't ever be redeemed for me (villains aside) is Fu. Like I'm sorry but his purposful exclusion of Chat weakened Chat and Ladybug as a team to the point that even after becoming the Guardian, despite having a dependable partner, Ladybug feels the need to shoulder all her burdens alone.

I want Marinette to have a grounding significant moment where she realizes and vocalizes that Fu was WRONG to seperate her and Chat the way he did. He was wrong to single her out for more responsibility yet maintain she and Chat were equal using words but not in actions. I want her to come to grips with the fact that he is the most at fault for her struggles and Chat's struggles too.

Here's the thing: when you have a kids show and want to teach them good lessons, when said kids show wants to depict partnership and team work, you have to show what it truly means. Ladybug and Chat Noir, Marinette and Adrien, they're not just depicted as friends and teammates but romantic interests as well. And for all three of those categories it is SO. IMPORTANT. to realize that you are not alone. The other person is there to help you. That you need to willingly give up some independence to become one part of a larger whole. That is what real partnership is. That's what is necessary.

When you have an alleged all-knowing wise character like Fu showing otherwise, saying that one person (the girl especially in this case) is meant to shoulder her burden alone and not share what she must with Her Person (because that's what Chat is) you're teaching them to internalize independence above all. In a partnership, its important to forgo some of that independence willingly so you can allow the other person in. It goes both ways. They fill in your cracks and help you when you need it because you trust them to.

Fu isolating Marinette and Adrien, having one keep secrets and the other confined to his own, its basically the worst possible message you can send about partnership to young girls. Its a negative side effect to white feminism in fact. To believe that you need to be self-reliant at all times in order to be considered strong. Women and young girls need to learn that dependency on another person, on a man, is not a bad thing when you have a reliable partner. And given Astruc's views on feminism I'm not surprised this is the message he's been sending for the past 5 seasons at this point.

I only just began to tune back in for Season 5 but I realized the reason I left can be blamed entirely on Fu being a detriment to the entire story and it's ripple effect to the larger plot.

That being said, i HOPE the direction the show is going in now is that partnership means to work together and not alone. You can argue that Chat and Ladybug already work together. But the thing is they still have important secrets from each other. They trust each other but are being held back. When you're in a real partnership, you share the ugly difficult parts too and then where needed, Your Person steps in to help. Adrien needs to do that for Marinette and Marinette needs to do that for Adrien and that can only ever happen if Fu's methods are openly opposed by the show as Wrong and Detrimental to the heroes and their teamwork.

Marinette and Adrien are getting closer in S5. The sides of the love square are slowly moving towards merging but atp that isn't enough for me. I need the show to openly have Marinette realizing Fu did her dirty (whether he knew better or not is irrelevant) and that she needs to define her partnership and her guardianship by her own rules. The show has spent so long enforcing seperation as a plot point that is necessary that it needs to just as strongly and directly oppose it as the solution to the conflicts occurring to have any real value.

#miraculous ladybug #ml #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #chat noir #ladybug #the miraculous adventures of ladybug and chat noir #marichat #adrienette #ladrien #ladynoir #ml love square #master fu #sorry for the random rant #i just had a realization and it made me angry enough to need to type this out

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kiwipit · 1 year

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hey guys @/vavandeveresfan writes nsfw childxadult ships for miraculous ladybug (Marinette and Gabriel) and the blogs recommended on their blog r all radfem

#soundbooth;#blocklist #marimoth or whatever tf yall call urselves fuck off forever #miraculous ladybug #the miraculous adventures of ladybug and chat noir #cp cw

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hickorymoth · 1 year

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ummmmmm. alya as a cat

#fanart #alya cesaire #rena rouge #miraculous ladybug #the miraculous adventures of ladybug and chat noir #2021 #wc #wc au #warrior cats au #warriors #she was drawn for a wc au but as a note i am no longer drawing wc!

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limear · 2 years

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Imagine your you got your heartbroken by your superhero partner and rebound with their civilian identity RIP 🙏😭😭😭😭

#marichat #ladrien #ladynior #the miraculous adventures of ladybug and chat noir #miraculous ladybug

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hhayfever · 1 year

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Omg it’s them, Blue Hair and Pronouns

#I’m stealing this joke from a mutual sorry abdahdjsdjakd #fever says #miraculous #miraculous ladybug #the miraculous adventures of ladybug and chat noir #mlb #kagami hiiragi #luka couffaine

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the-chat-who-got-the-cream · 9 months

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i have no idea why but there's been so much mister bug and lady noir posts in my feed and these are the general vibes im getting from them atp (especially after the passion episode)

#miraculous ladybug #miraculous adventures of ladybug and chat noir #adrien agreste #marinette dupain cheng #ml #ml season 5 #ladynoir #mister bug

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triggerblaze345 · 11 months

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Bonus round: list all nine in order of favorite to least favorite!

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wildtornado-o · 10 months

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Doodles :)

I think the Graham de Vanilys should have some cats and ferrets, Félix seems like a ferret liker <3 The doodles on the last image are old ones i never got aroun to posting, mostly consisting of the aged up designs i have 4 feligami

#Miraculous is eating at my brain again who wouldve guessed (me)#its always eating at my brain tbh tho #Adrien Agreste #Felix Graham de Vanily #Nathalie Sancoeur #Amelie Graham de Vanily #amenath #Kagami Tsurugi #Feligami #the names for the cats r based off a Felix ai I had a couple chats with #Do i just like giving characters im attached to cats because I have cats? yeah. probably. it brings me joy <3 #my art #miraculous tales of ladybug and chat noir #miraculous adventures of ladybug and chat noir #miraculous ladybug #ml representation spoilers #ml representation #I am an its Amelie not Emilie believer btw #ALSO Felix would love Shad ow the Hedg ehog

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doggoartz · 1 year

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I am 100% sure someone has done this

#miraculous lb #marichat #marinette dupen chang #cat noir #the miraculous adventures of ladybug and chat noir #mlb fanart

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the-bluespirit · 6 months

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Miraculous World : Paris, les Aventures de Toxinelle et Griffe Noire

#miraculous ladybug #mledit #miraculous world #toxinelle #griffe noire #shadybug #claw noir #black claw #the adventures of toxinelle and griffe noire #adventures of toxinelle and griffe noire #chat noir #gifs #ml #ml spoilers #miraculous world paris #ml paris #ml paris special #*

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blaqpen · 9 months

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The Queen 🐝

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purpspencil · 4 months

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[Tales of Scarabella and Chat Noir AU]

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A little look into Scarabella and Chat Noir's dynamic in my AU by redrawing a meme that's circulating around.

It's also accidentally a reference to the Mr. Pigeon chapter since the Lucky Charm Scarabella receives is a gun....

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coolandspicy · 1 year

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Why vote for Chat Noir: this is a magical cat boy with no baggage. I mean no wait, he definitely still has trauma but not in the “manipulated and stalked their much younger love interest way” so that seems like a win! I’m not a huge fan of the miraculous superhero outfits but I do really like the jingle bell.

Why vote for Nico the Catboy: He's the only canon boyfriend of Finn the Human -- or is he? Maybe this is all an elaborate ruse by a single tumblr user to convince everyone their oc is real. Idk though. He seems pretty legit. Besides, have you watched every single episode of adventure time? How would you know for sure?

#tumblr catboy polls #chat noir #miraculous ladybug #adrien agreste #nico the catboy #adventure time #I think its funny that there are 2 catboy niko/nico in this tournement

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xhanisai · 1 year

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Post Jubilation quick comic sketches!

For my lovely @lalunaoscura who also wrote a story which you should ABSOLUTELY read here ——> “Dear True Love”

Tell you what, if this comic gets 1K notes I’ll do a part 2.

#my art #miraculous ladybug #miraculous ladybug and chat noir #ml spoilers #ml jubilation #ml jubilation spoilers #jubilation spoilers #ladynoir #marinette dupain cheng #Adrien agreste #ladybug #chat noir #les adventures de ladybug et chat noir

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