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nerdasaurus1200 · 22 days

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Why Cassandra's Moonstone Armor Sucks

*cracks knuckles and dusts off keyboard*

It's time to finally rip this armor to shreds...figuratively because it's indestructible XD

And big shoutout to @whosbex @archivedwoods @th3p0rtalmaker @the-reverse-mermaid @aziraphalesbookkeeper and @majorabbey who all wanted to see this. I thank you all so much for your patience 🥰

Don't get me wrong there are some elements of this that absolutely work. The blue and black is a wonderful color scheme, especially that blue swirl that goes down and around Cass's body. And the spikes on the shoulders, forearms, and calves looks super cool and gives off a more black rock feel and a very intimidating silhouette. But...that's about all it does right.

1- It doesn't fit Cassandra's sense of style at all

In all the outfits we can see Cass wear throughout the show, we can very easily get a sense of exactly what her style is. It’s very clear that she dresses conservatively. And especially in armor she values practicality above all else. Her clothing has to serve its respective purpose. And up until season 3 the only revealing thing she wears is her island outfit and even then that’s pretty modest. And the moonstone armor comes along and completely disregards her established sense of style.

2- It undermines the moonstone's capabilities

We get it very explicitly confirmed that the Moonstone made the Dark Kingdom, and made Cass's tower as well. We see the amount of detail it puts into buildings. Even the rocks, the most simple thing it can make, are magically complex enough to know to seek out the Sundrop. And you're telling me that this thing can't make better armor than that?? Nuh uh, no way. I don't buy it. There’s absolutely no reason for the moonstone to provide a skin tight catsuit with a few spikes when we know its power can be much more sturdy and intimidating.

3- It's Chris Sonneburg's fantasies showing through

Those of you who have been in this fandom know the crush that Chris, the director, has on Cass. She's supposedly based on his college crush or something, and from day one he always wanted Cass to be the villain and plan to betray Rapunzel even as far back as the very beginning of the show. And of course, don't you want to see your crush in something hot? Therefore, I'm certain that the retaining of the catsuit was his idea. Because if you look at the moonstone concept art you can see more and more the visual leaning into a catsuit rather than actual armor

4- It's not at all practical or historically accurate

For reference, THIS is what armor has typically looked like throughout history

And even in works of fantasy you still have some version or variant of armor like this. Throughout the middle ages you can see just how tanky armor used to be. But as you can see, the moonstone armor looks nothing like that. It doesn't at all look like it could realistically defend a person.

Granted Cass's guard uniform is also kinda form fitting like the moonstone armor, but there’s still protective elements of it. The helmet, the breastplate. You could still believe that that is practical armor. Despite it being indestructible, the moonstone….is not at all practical armor. It doesn't look like it belongs in history or even fantasy. It is so obviously modern it’s almost painful.

5- It makes her disappear.

This is actually something that @moltenhair pointed out a while back that I never realized. There's too much black in there. A lot of the time we see Moonssandra at night and because there's so much black on her armor it makes her fade into the background to the point where she looks like a floating head and hand because the blue is all that really catches your eye about the design. Granted one can make the argument that this could have been done on purpose because taking and using the moonstone isn't actually giving Cass the spotlight she thinks it is but...eh...it's a loose argument.

#tts #rta #tangled #tangled the series #rapunzel's tangled adventure #nerd talks #cassandra #moonstone #analysis

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nightowl1556 · 16 days

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I found this Tangled the Series x Avatar the Last Airbender x She-ra and the Princesses of Power Crossover AU lore (I don't know if it's lore, exactly) saved in my Google Keep. I honestly don't feel like writing a whole story with this but I still feel like sharing this soooo....

The world will mostly be ATLA, but it will have the Sundrop and Moonstone lore mixed into it.

Maybe during the hundred year war, I can have Sun Warriors guard and keep the Sundrop (Rapunzel) safe, while the Brotherhood keeps the Moonstone (Varian) safe/in control.

If an injured Firebender is healed by the Sundrop, it gives the healed Firebender the same fire power as during Sozin's Comet. It's the reason why the Fire Nation is searching for the Sundrop.

Moonstone rocks are indestructable, like in the actual Tangled show. The Moonstone can also cause benders to gradually lose their bending if it somehow gets into open wounds, like an infection. The Moonstone has the potential to slowly kill benders.

-Water benders have a higher chance of surviving, but can still gradually lose their bending after a few weeks.

-Earthbenders (also Airbenders but they're all dead except Aang) have a lower chance of surviving. They can lose their bending and sometimes their life to the infection after a few weeks.

-Firebenders will inevitably lose their bending AND their life within a couple of days if infected. This is the reason why the Fire Nation would also be hunting down both the Moonstone and the Sundrop. To destroy one and to steal the other.

-The Moonstone Infection has no effect against non-benders. The rocks are still physically sharp and dangerous to them though...

-If the Moonstone infects the Avatar, it will kill the Avatar AND destroy the Avatar Cycle. So yeah... scary shit.

Varian and Hugo worked together and invented Moonstone Powder. The powder can be used like smoke bombs and can also hinder bender's abilities temporarily without potentially killing them.

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Now let's add in She-ra, shall we? 😅

But instead of She-ra, Adora is going to be named "The Crimson Pheonix". She would have the ability to destroy the Moonstone with her sword. The Fire Nation has taught her that defeating and destroying the Moonstone holder (which is Varian) is her destiny.

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tangledbea · 9 months

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Hello! I am the anon that talked how unbalanced the Sundrop and Moonstone are.

It makes sense when you put it like that that Rapunzel was born with the power and has lived with it her whole life it makes sense that she could wield its magic more naturally than Cassandra who has stolen the Moonstone and forced it to accept her as a wielder.

However, that doesn't quite explain why the Sundrop was literally able to break the Moonstone. I mean I know it was put in as a plot convenience for later but it's still really bizarre. Why would one be able to harm the other at it's core? Would that mean that if the Sundrop in its gem/stone form was hit with a black rock or zapped with magic from the Moonstone that it would also break? If the Sunstone was present during the fight between Rapunzel and Cassandra do you think it would also break under pressure?

I just can't come to terms with the fact that one of the most powerful indestructible magical artifacts in the series just... broke apart.

I literally don't have an answer for you, unfortunately. Like I keep saying, there are no rules to the magic of this world. They always just did what was cool or convenient for the plot. They needed the Moonstone to break, so it broke. They needed that tiny shard to somehow stay with Cassandra over the next several days so she could hand it over to Rapunzel at the end. They never even properly explained why the presence of Moonstone awakened the Sundrop powers in Rapunzel, even when it had been forcibly removed from her. It's because it was convenient for the plot.

#Tangled #Tangled the Series #Rapunzel #TTS #The Sundrop #The Moonstone #Speculation #Answered

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lizarr7 · 2 years

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“Bedroom Eyes”

Moving on from Shera to Rapunzel’s Tangled Adventure, AKA Tangled the series. Despite the fact that it was already called the former title when I started watching it, I see it most commonly referred to as the abbreviation TTS, and so, that is most often what I will be calling it as well.

Now, I do apologize if my current obsession with this fandom turns anyone off, I’m aware it has a pretty bad reputation and a lot of ppl have a negative association with it for one reason or another. I personally don’t really hate or have a vendetta against any characters in the show, and enjoy most of them, as well as multiple ships, despite the fact that Cassunzel is the only one I actively create fan content for/my main one. Like who u like, ship who u ship, even hate who u hate, everyone is welcome here.

Now, as far as my fanart for this fandom goes, most of it is actually fanart for specific fanfics I have read, which is quite unusual for me. I have a lot of art for the fanfic “Darkest Destiny” in particular.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/23259643/chapters/55698484

Which is what this picture is from. To sum up Darkest Destiny in a nutshell, Cass succeeds in taking the sundrop, kills Zahn Tiri, and ascends to an immortal, indestructible being with vast power. She takes over Corona, becoming a horrid, volatile and unpredictable Tyrant and kidnaps Raps, holding her prisoner as her soon to be war bride essentially. The rest of the characters hide out at the edge of Corona, trying to remain undetected and come up with a plan to save the day.

The combined power of the sundrop/moonstone are too much for a mortal mind, and turn Cass into not only someTHING else, but someONE else, as she falls deeper and deeper into madness. She makes NO attempts to hide her interest in Rapunzel and Raps is not at all sure how to feel about it. There is a lot of sexual tension, but often with a very toxic twist . . . this story isn’t exactly about depicting any kind of healthy relationships.

This picture isn’t any particular moment in the story, just sort of a capturing of the vibe of their relationship in general. Also, I chose to make any scenes between them from this story to be greyscale, as a commentary on the depressing/oppressive nature of it.

#rapunzles tangled adventure #tts #cassandra #rapunzel #cassunzel #fanart #fanfiction #greyscale

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aikoiya · 2 years

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I bet very few people know about this, but remember Frozen?

In the beginning, the king reads a book to try & find a way to cure Anna. Well, according to a YouTube video I saw where someone translated the futhark runes in the book, a stone fell from the moon & hit a king in the head, granting him powers.

Also, here's a link to a translation:

Deciphering the Runes Book in Frozen

That this is where Elsa's powers originated from. That it mixed the moon's power into the king's blood & trying to remove it would be like trying to filter paint from water. That Elsa came out that way because she had the perfect genetic sequence for those powers to latch onto.

I'm sure that you all can figure out the obvious connection here. Elsa & Anna's ancestor was hit by a Moonstone Opal or Moondrop or something to that effect.

My thoughts are, what if the Sundrop & Moonstone Opal did something similar with Rapunzel & Eugene's ancestors.

The way it was introduced in the movie, Rapunzel's mother drank the Sundrop Flower when she was at the point in her pregnancy when hair begins to develop & that's why Rapunzel's powers are bound to her hair. So, in this instance, instead of being just bound to Rapunzel's hair, it was in her very blood.

At the same time, because of this, instead of Ariana drinking the Sundrop, Rapunzel simply heals her herself from the inside & no one understands what happened.

Gothel, instead of using the Sundrop Flower & Healing Incantation, uses more witchy ways to keep herself young. Mainly the sacrificing of children. She ends up having a daughter with Hector of the Brotherhood & names her Cassandra, planning to use her as her next sacrifice should her plan to kidnap the newborn princess of Carona not pan out like she hopes.

Because the Dark Kingdom doesn't have to guard the Moonstone & it is instead in their blood, their civilization is much more prosperous. The king who contracted the power of the moon, built the kingdom using the black rocks as the foundation & created tunnels beneath the earth to channel lava all over the kingdom, making the earth fertile with nutrients. The Brotherhood's goal in this is to guard the secret of the king's bloodline should such powers resurface in their lineage.

Hector, being a fanatic, tries to kidnap Prince Horace in some twisted belief that he can protect him, but is nearly caught & has to leave the baby somewhere. The infant is found & taken to an orphanage where he's raised as Eugene Fitzherbert & later becomes Flynn Ryder. The only difference being that he has midnight black hair & blue eyes. The only power that he knows about is the fact that his body is practically indestructible so this makes him more reckless than in canon.

Rapunzel has healing powers, but also a form of chlorokinesis that she doesn't learn about until later. Her powers don't leave her when her hair is cut. However, Gothel thinks that it does because of how her hair changed after being cut. Therefore, so too does Rapunzel think this & therefore Eugene.

At some point, Eugene learns that he can be hurt by black rock blades. It's like how only other diamonds can scratch other diamonds. Only Eugene's hair is immune & sorta works as a helmet. Gothel uses one on Eugene, so the scene is the same.

The hair-cutting scene is also the same. As well as the tear scene. But, instead Gothel doesn't die as a result of Rapunzel's hair being cut like in the movie because her powers are still there. Instead, she's killed when Eugene suddenly discovers that he can decay things with his touch when he wants to. He gets so angry at Gothel for how she treats Rapunzel that he wishes more than anything that she'd die, then he notices that his gloves are dissolving & uses his touch to kill Gothel when she gets close to try & take Rapunzel away.

This has the effect of traumatizing both Rapunzel & Eugene for different reasons.

The story continues, but with the added side-story of Eugene slowly discovering his own powers of controling the black rocks & learning to control the effects of his decay touch. Has to wear enchanted gloves like Elsa for a while before he gets it under complete control.

For the most part, Rapunzel can heal people & Eugene can decay things, with their hands, but only to an extent. For major things like reviving people from the dead or reversing age or decaying the giant tree, they require the Incantations.

I'm not sure what could cause Rapunzel & Eugene to leave for the Dark Kingdom in this, but maybe they want to learn more about their powers & it eventually leads there.

Zhan Tiri uses Cass against both to try & use a spell that she created that's supposed to separate the Sundrop & Moonstone from their individual avatars.

Because of the change in the story, Cass either doesn't get Moonstone powers & has to go about things more strategically. Or she uses the spell Zhan Tiri gave her on Eugene, but it only gives her half the Moonstone's power & the goal is to find out how to make the spell complete & take both the rest of Eugene's power & all of Rapunzel's.

That, or the spell seemingly gives her all of Eugene's powers & he has to learn to adjust to not being nearly indestructible anymore. At the same time, as the story progesses, the characters learn that it couldn't take everything from him because the Moonstone's energy is in his very blood. That if he puts his mind to it when Cass is near, he can even start reabsorbing the power that Cass took from him whether she took almost all or just half because, it's his birthright.

As a result, Cass has to avoid Eugene at all costs.

#tangled the series #tts #eugene fitzherbert #flynn ryder #rapunzel #moongene #moonstone eugene fitzherbert

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orifumioshi · 8 months

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Just watched the Lego Disney princesses movie thingie and now I'm mad over a couple of things:

I want this movie to be animated with other style because LEGO just doesn't does justice to the visuals it could have

Disney should make more content with the princesses interacting instead of doing ugly live-actions remakes

Where is my PCU (Princesses Cinematic Universe)? Gimme more!!

So yes, I liked the little movie, it was pretty fun xD and I think Gaston died again?

I specially recommend it to people who ships Moana and Ariel, come get your crumbs ;3 also loved how Snow white was quite feral with her axe xD and Raps introduction of the one who never does what she's told to do hehe.

I really hope we can get more Disney content like this even if it doesn't make sense within each "universe" canon (because yes, I was kinda wishing Raps to have her "Moonstone" indestructible protective magic hair xD and let's be honest, both Gaston and Maleficent are dead so they being in the movie makes 0 sense) but it's those kind of movies were you can watch without much thought and just have fun for 50 mins ;3

#just a txt #watching stuff #txt from the megane madao #disney

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cypriathus · 8 months

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Here's the other half of the previous Azhelowin post! I was going to split it into three parts, but there isn't much to talk about for each tier and I want to move on to sharing some other stuff I got.

TIER 4: TANZANITE or GUARDIAN (plural noun: GUARDIANs):

This tier is responsible for ensuring that no law is being broken and overseeing the safety of those they were sent to guard. They are also responsible for commanding security teams under the supervision of the Government of Interdimensional Peace and Righteousness (GIPAR) and the Authorities. Like a few other Azhelowin tiers, they are fairly versatile in regards to their field of profession. They are commonly seen working as bodyguards, police officers, and a myriad of other positions in the security department (e.g. screeners and patrol officers).

TIER 3: BUMBLEBEE JASPER or BUILDER (plural noun: BUILDERs):

This tier is designed to be fairly versatile workers of immense strength and valuable knowledge. The Builders are used in carpentry, repair, maintenance, construction, engineering, technicians, and production of industrial goods. They wear protective and highly absorbent suits to minimise any potential dangers that might occur in their designated worksites.

TIER 2: AMETHYST or HELPER (plural noun: HELPERs):

The Helpers are one of the tiers that humanity heavily relies on due to their versatile capabilities and knowledge. They are commonly seen working as physicians, surgeons, nurses, dietitians, psychiatrists, and therapists. However, some Helpers are responsible for performing a multitude of domestic tasks such as cooking and cleaning. Unfortunately, they’re the primary target for those who want to use them to satisfy their sexual desires.

TIER 1.5: CHRYSOCOLLA or GHOST-COLLECTOR (plural noun: GHOST-COLLECTORs):

The Ghost-Collectors are the most recent tier to be created and ranked. Their sole purpose is to investigate ghostly disturbances and potentially annihilate the spectral perpetrators if necessary. Due to their lack of versatility in regards to their assigned role, they are rarely seen by the public.

TIER 1: LABRADORITE or TERMINATOR (plural noun: TERMINATORs):

This tier is responsible for annihilating any potential threats to humanity and/or the universal law. They are capable of causing severe structural damage and easily incinerating the weakest of foes. They are commonly paired up with Beast-Hunters, Guardians, and even other Terminators due to their impressive power. Terminator bodies and suits are made of some unknown liquid substance that’s virtually indestructible. This allows them to effortlessly manipulate their form to whatever benefits them as well as to create devastating guns, explosives, and blades.

TIER 0.5: FULGURITE or AGENT (plural noun: AGENTs):

Azhelowins that are a part of this particular tier work as secret agents and spies on behalf of the GIPAR. Originally, they were just secret agents who prevented fraud, counterfeit, and identity theft as well as provide protection for prominent members of the government. However, most were later developed into skillful spies that helped to gather classified information about various activities and/or intentions from targeted organisations or groups.

TIER 0: RAINBOW MOONSTONE or AUTHORITY (plural noun: AUTHORITIES):

The Authorities oversee the respective duties of each tier and administrative tasks, ensuring that they’re being performed properly. They serve as commanders when put in teams with other tiers or in charge of specific projects (e.g. construction of a government building). They are also responsible for planning tactical strategies, carrying important messages between their team and their operator, prioritising safety for both humans and Azhelowins, and taking care of necessary paperwork and calculations.

TIER ∞: BISMUTH or BEAST-HUNTER (plural noun: BEAST-HUNTERs):

This tier is by far the most dangerous and even fearsome amongst the Azhelowins. They are solely responsible for annihilating Æylphitus that are perceived as potential threats. The Beast-Hunters possess a variety of abnormal abilities, which greatly helps them to overcome sudden Æylphitus attacks. Interestingly enough, each Beast-Hunter possesses their own unique appearances and personalities. Compared to most Azhelowins, they have the highest chance to transcend or become Husks of Rotting.

TIER UNIDENTIFIABLE or UNIDENTIFIABLE (plural noun: UNIDENTIFIABLEs):

This is only applied to those who weren’t given a proper role or encompass a myriad of traits relating to two or more tiers. Unidentifiables are more human-like compared to the other Azhelowins. It varies between each one, but the most common “abnormalities” consist of consuming regular foods, feeling real emotions, and disobeying specific orders. Due to this, there’s a noticeable stigma surrounding the Unidentifiables.

TIER PROTOTYPE or PROTOTYPE (plural noun: PROTOTYPEs):

This is applied to the first created models of each tier who were built to test and develop their associated abilities. They were originally subjected to specific experiments that surrounded scientific, psychological, and sociological curiosities. Most were discarded and abandoned, using their body parts for better Azhelowin models.

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zonerobotnik · 9 months

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His hands being "perfectly fine" is uninteresting. Sexually speaking. And gloves aren't indestructible. A beaker with sulphuric acid exploding would be enough.

Well, in my lore, his gloves coming off while the Moonstone is still able to act on its own (as in, not under Cassandra's control) would trigger his own Moon Powers. So, I dunno, maybe his mother enchanted her gloves so they were indestructible - well, unless we count the decay incantation. And maybe his Saporian gloves were also enchanted. I dunno, he goes through a lot of explosions in canon and his clothes and gloves and even his body seem completely intact aside from some ash and soot all over it. We even see what his hands look like under his gloves and there's not even a scratch.

But, hey, I'm not talking about it in a sexual context, I'm talking about it in a narrative sense. You have your kink and that's all well and good and I won't discuss it beyond that. I'm just focused on the narrative.

#ask zone stuff

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rohirric-hunter · 4 years

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The surface level magic worldbuilding of TtS is a fic writer’s dream, honestly, because I can write basically anything, chalk it up to magic, and have it be consistent with canon.

As a theorist, however, I absolutely detest it because I’m over here like

trying to find a set of consistent behaviors for the Moonstone.

#tts #like okay #canon gives us a very simple dichotomy #the sundrop heals #the moonstone destroys #except!#the moonstone is also indestructable??? for some reason??? i guess you could chalk it up to not being weak to itself #but now were in theory territory like i just made that up #it makes logical sense but theres no canon precedent for it #anyway the sundrop isnt usually indestructible but it can be when its borrowing its power from the moonstone #which is a thing that it does for some reason #it looks like when its vessel is destroyed or damaged it can either go dormant or transfer itself #but again thats pure conjecture!!!! i dont KNOW that #theyre supposed to be two halves of a whole but when rapunzel and cassandra fight rapunzel is clearly more powerful #is that because the sundrop is more powerful than the moonstone?#is it because the sundrop is borrowing power from the moonstone?#is it because rapunzel has more experience wielding the power?#WHO KNOWS #although personally i would guess the latter because in their next confrontation cassandra came out on top #but eh #why did rapunzel lose access to the healing abilities of the sundrop #was it because her hair was cut???#was it because she used it to bring back a dead person #potentially something she wasnt supposed to be able to do #unlikely given the finale but hey #and dont even get me STARTED on the red rocks

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avatarvyakara · 2 years

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I’ve seen the comparison between Rapunzel’s two haircuts pop up from time to time, you know the ones, right?

Yeah, these two. And the thing that’s brought up, again and again, is Rapunzel’s agency in the matter. Don’t get me wrong, there is very much that. Being able to make that decision on her own accord is incredibly important. But it’s not everything.

Because, as has been said before, it’s not the same hair.

During the movie, Rapunzel’s hair was a thing that protected others first and foremost—it “turned back the clock” and all—but it was also a chain. It was what made Gothel hold her back. It was also the thing that would keep her bound to Gothel when she asked to heal Eugene, in effect sacrificing the rest of her life. During the show, though, Rapunzel’s hair protected her before all others. Indestructible but incapable of healing—a way of showing how powerful she was in combat, but not something the purpose of which was to aid others. Rapunzel went from giving freely to taking freely—turned from the warm Sun to the cold Moon.

And the two Rapunzels are quite different from one another too, but like with the hair, they have one similarity: they assume that others outside the tower will be like them. Sundrop Rapunzel didn’t have everything, but she didn’t need everything—all she had was a dream. And so she looked for others’ dreams, not to prove a point but just out of sheer disbelief that they might not have any. (Cue an army of Pub Thugs ready to die for this little one who actually believed in them.) Her hair was powerful, yes, but it shouldn’t be what defines her. Moonstone Rapunzel now has more than she ever possibly wanted—both in terms of luxuries and duties—and comes to think of the world as revolving around her because for all intents and purposes is does, now. And she assumes others will feel the same about their own lives—cue Cassandra von Dorn, who is actually much closer in hopes to Sundrop Rapunzel and that much further from having her dreams come true because the world now revolves around Rapunzel. Sure, she has indestructible hair, but that’s not her...right? Only it is. The Sundrop has the Destiny, not Rapunzel. The Sundrop, not Rapunzel, is being sought by the Rocks, and then the Moonstone, and then Zhan Tiri. Not her. Her shield becomes herself, and that’s something she has to learn to get rid of for her own sake and that of others.

Anyway, the point I’m making is that when Rapunzel cuts her hair here, yes it’s to save Corona, but it’s also a removal of the thing that brings her the most power. She’s losing not the opportunity to be useful to other people, but the ability to rank herself above other people. At the end of it...yes, she’s still Crown Princess of Corona, but she’s no longer magical, no longer has a Destiny. She’s Rapunzel again, not the Sundrop.

Both haircuts are there to remind Rapunzel of her worth as a person. But where Eugene freed her, Rapunzel disarms herself.

And there is a big difference there, folks.

(At least to my view. What do you think?)

#tangled the series #rapunzel’s tangled adventure #rta #tts #rapunzel #eugene fitzherbert #mother gothel #sundrop #tangled the movie #plus est en vous #haircut

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gueswho · 3 years

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Sundrop and Moondrop lore

Both for my own sanity and to better fit the context of Remnants, I’ve decided to tweak these two magic items. More information on this under the cut.

The moondrop and sundrop are time based, not healing or hurting, or explosions and...fire(whatever that means). The sundrop reverses time while the moondrop moves it forward. As well as this, they both have methods of defense and methods of use, each lying within the roots. The black rocks in this case would not be rocks, but bits of thorn poking out from the roots growing across the seven kingdoms, and in the event that this situation was reversed, the sundrop would have vines growing across instead(think kudzu, invasive species). This also means that the black rocks tower would look more like a leafless tree, a bunch of roots twisting around themselves covered in thorns… a frightening and intriguing visual.

Outside of time manipulation and indestructibility(something shown in the show through Rapunzel’s hair and Cassandra’s armor), there’s also the elemental aspect. The sun has an innate talent with fire magic, as shown in the show with the explosions caused by her hair, and the explosion of light would be a form of its magic as well. Having the destructive power to counter the ‘good’ healing power balances it out slightly. The moon, on the opposite end, has an innate talent with water magic, not shown in the show, but makes sense due to tides, and to oppose the beams of light, the moondrop would steal light, enveloping the space in question in pitch blackness. The emotional source of this magic would be different for both as well, two opposing feelings with different effects. The moondrop is powered by both fear and courage, the former having negative effects(the red rocks), while the latter has positive effects(powers remain normal). The sundrop is powered by both anger and peace, the former causing literal and metaphorical explosions(think like what she caused in Cassandra’s revenge, the physical power as well as the emotional power, heightening Cassandra’s anger, magically egging her on), and the latter leaving normal effects.

Then there’s a matter of forms. The sundrop remains the classic flower, small and unassuming with large roots underneath(excavating it proved quite the challenge), while the moondrop takes on a form more like this.

A willow tree, it resides in a small island at the end of the bridge in its chamber, a moat of magic water flowing around it. The drops at each end are where its minor healing powers reside. Like how reciting the incantation allows pollen from the sundrop to flow up to reverse injuries or aging, reciting the incantation for the moondrop allows the smaller drops to release a bit of liquid to move time forward and scar over whatever ailments someone may have. Only the highest up are allowed in here, the brotherhood as well as the royal family. They come to this place with their injuries and allow the properties to drip down and scar it, leaving it to glow a soft blue. To fit this into the context of remnants, Quirin takes an injured Ulla there to heal her(an injury acquired during the trial in Galcrest), both without the king’s permission and without the knowledge of her being pregnant. This causes a similar, yet not as extreme effect to Rapunzel with Varian, aka moonboi stans come and get y’all juice.

The betrayal goes a bit different because of the moonstone’s new form, Rapunzel steps into the pool of water and lets the tree’s trunk open up to reveal its heart, she reaches out to take it, only for Cassandra to rip it out instead. The end fate for the two rocks is different as well, instead of shooting up into space and exploding Zhan Tiri with it, they explode and leave a tree in its place. A death to bring on new life. It’d look something like this, changing color based on if it were night or day.

I(and space, who helped me figure out all this lore) imagine that Eugene and Rapunzel would have their wedding under this tree, two of the flowers dropping down as they recite their vows, two flowers that can never wilt. Now for the effect on its users. For injuries, the moonstone and sundrop leave a small bit of glow in the scar, Eugene’s scar on his stomach glows a soft yellow, while the brotherhood(+ulla)’s scars glow a soft blue. It’s faint, but something treated with great honor in Galcrest. For Varian, it would appear as the hair stripe, since he had no physical ailment at the time of its use. Rapunzel and Cassandra a more special cases, instead of receiving the power, they give it up. Their physical power source resides in the hair primarily for Rapunzel, with her hands glowing when she uses immense amounts of it, and in her hands for Cassandra, with her hair glowing when she has a particularly strong attack. The remnant(heh, remnant) of it would appear in the main power source, Rapunzel at the tip of her hair, and Cassandra on the palms of her hands.

Just a little souvenir, they deserve it. So yeah! That’s all the lore dump for today. thank you to @space--butterflies for helping me with this!! You're really fun to bounce ideas off of :))

#tangled the series #tts #rapunzel #cassandra #eugene #varian #quirin #adira #hector #edmund #varian and the 7 kingdoms #vat7k #ulla #remnants au

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birb-tangleblog · 3 years

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Since the DK castle seems to be semi-carved from a mountain, do you think buildings carved from stone were/are common in the Dark Kingdom? (It would explain why we don’t see a lot of buildings if they were carved into the sides of the valleys)

Oooo Batsy, speculation about the DK is my fav!!

I've seen that idea floated before- particularly that a lot of houses and buildings in the DK are built right into the sides of cliffs and canyons, with it being a very vertical city- and I really enjoy it!

I'd actually like to go a bit farther and speculate that a lot of the older buildings and parts of the kingdom are made from the black rock itself. Gonna go on a tangent here but I promise it's related ok:

SO, a big question I have re. the Dark Kingdom is... why would any group of people have wanted to settle there, originally? And why would they cluster their city around the inert magical nuke that is the moonstone?

(Also credit to Xannerz for this ramble too, b/c we were bouncing worldbuilding ideas off each other a while ago!)

A HC I've mentioned before is that the land surrounding the DK, though barren of wildlife, is rich in gems and metals- which could make settling there desirable. BUT, I also really like the idea that at one point in time, the Dark Kings and Queens were able to directly interact with and use the moonstone's magic to manipulate the black rocks- to create indestructible dwellings, buildings, and fortresses directly from the stone and defend the kingdom from invaders.

I feel like there'd be a ton of applications for basically terraforming and stone architecture that can be shaped at will- like aqueducts, maybe? Advanced quarrying? Creating favorable terrain during warfare?

That seems like the kind of natural advantage and foundation that people would fight for and build a life around, + I like that it makes the DK's relationship with the moonstone less passive. (And complements the sundrop proliferating wild growth in nature, kinda? Manmade vs. natural sorta deal...)

We see that Cassandra, when she uses the second moonstone incantation, is able to exercise much greater control over the black rocks and build a tower/fortress for herself- she does possess the moonstone, but Gothel was previously able to sing to the sundrop flower to activate its magic- so why couldn't the royal family and early generations of the DK do the same with the moonstone? 👀🌙

(Presumably no one had fused with the moonstone before then- so that incantation must’ve had some other purpose or utility.)

(If at one point the moonstone could make huge changes at will like that, I think it'd also explain some of Ed's fear that outsiders gaining access to it is a danger to the world; and it works okayish with the vague 'mindtrap as a failsafe' theory, if you assume anyone with access to the stone and knowledge of the magic/incantations could basically level the kingdom.)

That was a real detour as;dkfljsa;df but tl;dr I def like the idea that DK dwellings are either all constructed from stone since that’s their... main natural resource (with wood being something of a rarity/luxury) or just carved directly into the landscape, with stonework being a v traditional skill.

(I also like to imagine that the DK has a lot of subterranean stuff going on- mines, tunnels, cave systems, underground hot springs or rivers, etc.- and I think those concepts fit together nicely. Stone building faces on cliffsides that lead deeper underground.)

Maybe other parts of the kingdom could even draw from some of that fantasy dwarven city aesthetic, visually?

#TY FOR LETTIN ME RAMBLE #I'd been meaning to make a post abt that whole idea jam and you gave me a perf excuse to do so haha #I think the thought was also that the knowledge on how to control the moonstone was either lost to the DK itself over time #or just that the moonstone became too volatile/unresponsive/imbalanced which came to a head when Ed tried to destroy it #ask #the DK castle itself is so uniquely shaped and abstract yet organic that to me it kinda looks like it was created from an impact #+ magic #bat-anon #bat anon #my post #text post #discussion and theories #the dark kingdom #tangled the series #headcanons

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spooky-activity · 3 years

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Just a little update on Cassandratopia 2: Electric Boogaloo (Or as it stands in my Google Docs folder rn, A Helping Hand). I’ll put it under the cut cuz it’s kinda long.

I just wanted to say that I’m still planning on actually doing it, despite all evidence to the contrary lol

I did Cassandratopia in a haze of graduating from college(where I was studying animation) and just having ended my first dnd campaign as a dungeon master (which went 3 years!). I was fishing around for internships, but since the pandemic had just kicked off I wasn’t having much luck. So I had a lot of creative energy that wasn’t getting channeled anywhere, and a lot of free time when I wasn’t applying to places. Which is how I did 4 pages a day several times per week. Which was insane.

As it stands, I’m running 2 dnd campaigns(one meets weekly, the other every other week or so), and just scored a full-time internship at a video game company! The campaigns I’m running are a homebrew open world, which, for those of you who aren’t too familiar with dnd, is a metric fuckton of work to prep for each session because I have no idea what my insane friends and siblings are going to try and do every time we play.

Anyways all this to say that my storytelling itch is kinda. Sufficiently getting scratched atm and I have a lot less free time. I’m still plucking away at the setting/refining the story of A Helping Hand, but it’s largely on the backburner. Cassandratopia was also, uh, like the first story I’ve ever told in any sort of format besides the give-and-take of dnd, so... I’m not used to having so much control over the narrative. Oddly. I’ve never thought of myself as much of a writer of stories; my main focus is character animation, so someone else is usually writing the stories I’m telling anyways, which is super cool with me. Honestly I’m surprising myself with how much I want to tell this story, which is why I’m still sure I’m doing it. Just. Slower. Than Cassandratopia got done.

But I’ll share a bit of the lore I’ve been cooking up! Specifically about Zhan Tiri and The Drops. The story will be told in an extremely dnd type setting, because that’s the kind of narrative I’ve told before and am comfortable telling: hard magic rules, neat fights, scary monsters, a dash of eldritch horror, and huge emphasis being put on magical artifacts(kinda like in the show!). Here’s some stuff that’s basically locked-in.

Zhan Tiri

Zhan Tiri is one of the many Demon Lords of the Abyss. She’s kind of a mashup of two of my favorite Demon Lords, Zuggtmoy, the Lady of Rot and Decay, and Pale Night, the Mother of Demons and Queen of the Night(with just a dash of Hannibal Lecter because who doesn’t like helpful, polite, manipulative-ass bitches lksjflkja;fj). Her domain sits almost exactly between the Sundrop and Moonstone, largely being the new growth that comes from death, and the endless cycle of life and death. Places where her influence is strongest includes the cracks in... Well anywhere really, from society to the planet’s shell, where metaphorical or physical rot could grow; musty, mostly ignored places where something could fester. Iconography related to her would include endless mazes, fungi, grasping skeletal hands, and rotting/blooming corpses. Her spores can animate corpses, which she likes to use as mindless minions when she doesn’t feel like sending one of her Acolytes. She shares a scrap of her power with those few mortals she likes. She appreciates ambition and the desire to Grow to be bigger than what you were to start with, as those are qualities she herself possesses.

Incredibly intelligent and merciless to those she deems her enemies, her main thing is pulling the strings from the shadows and seeing just how far she can push people to act with as little prompting from her as possible. She does, however, have the power to kinda bulldoze her way through things if she needs to, but she doesn’t like to because where’s the fun in that?

She first gained interest in the Material Plane when a Wizard with too much hubris from said Material Plane(Named Demanitus) contacted her trying to figure out more information about The Drops and how to control them. After indulging him for a bit, she started preparing to make a summer home on the Material Plane because it’s New and Fun here and Wow These Mortals are Really Fun to Mess With! And some of them she even genuinely liked! Demanitus then realized his mistake and locked her away in Pandemonium for what he hoped was forever, but turned out to be only around 1,000 years, due to the efforts of her followers. Her little stint in Pandemonium magnified the more... Chaotic aspects of her personality, so now she wants to cover the Material Plane in blooming mazes of fungal crops that she can break people with at her leisure.

The Drops

The drops are two semi-sentient pieces of one original artifact, whose original purpose was to be a tool of creation for the gods. Which, through some great calamity(still deciding that one), got sundered and settled into the two basic aspects of creation: the nearly unlimited well of life-energy which organizes stardust into planets, cabbages, and kings, and the “you gotta crack a few eggs to get an omlette” destructive force which breaks down what the sundrop makes so that it can make more.

The main goal of the drops is to reunite. I would want to as well if I was ripped in half! This manifests as a... General tug in the direction of the other drop. A desire in the host to Go That Way. It can be resisted, and even ignored for a bit, but it’s always there. Like being hungry if starving wasn’t a danger. Just a bit uncomfortable if you aren’t going That Way, but ignorable.

Both drops generally try to be as helpful to their wielder as possible, as originally they were a tool of creation to the gods. They are innately obliging. They’re also REALLY UNSAFE FOR MORTALS TO BE MESSING WITH. The Sundrop is a little safer because the most it can do is kinda. Overcharge you into something distinctly not human but still alive, and King Fredrick was lucky he made the Sundrop into soup before giving it to Arianna. But King Edmund got his wholeass arm blasted off for touching the Moonstone.

The Sundrop

Best I could whittle it down, the Sundrop has power over life energy, like the sun’s light. It also has power over the energy derived from geothermal activities, so deep sea creatures Are Not Immune To The Sundrop, which was a funny thought that crossed my mind that they could be, but that will likely never come up anyways salkdjf;ljsf It is, in its basest form, Growth and Progress.

It’s a little sentient, but very much entrenches itself into whoever is holding it at the time. Like another mind looking through your eyes and seeing what you see/feeling what you feel while still retaining a bit of individuality from the host. It’s not... Parasitic because it’s in its nature to give, but it’s generally pretty firmly attached to whoever is holding it until they die( which isn’t usually for a WHILE. It ’infects’ a new host when one dies, usually a plant near their grave...) or until a solar eclipse. It wants what they want, but it’s very fussy so they have to ask it for power exactly correctly(like singing an incantation every time you want to heal someone, or doing a Ritual involving lots of very specific ingredients, Celestial Alignments, and Secret Words) or it won’t listen, like an orchid dying if the ph balance is off in the soil by a little bit. But it’s generally pretty intuitive to use, because it wants what you want and (as long as you ask right) is willing to help.

Anyways basically under the influence of the Sundrop you get a few things:

Basically limitless energy coursing through your body while you’re in a place with sunlight, which equates to rapid healing, mostly, because every cell in your body is being supercharged with free energy. Never getting exhausted in direct sunlight. (If Rapunzel lived in a place that was sunny 24/7 like near one of the poles she wouldn’t have to sleep like. until it started to get dark in the opposite half of the year. Then she’d have to sleep like a regular human being)

You stay at your prime, or if you are past it, revert to your prime. Someone who is holding the Sundrop, or who has regular access to the Sundrop’s magic can’t die of old age or illness. They have to be hurt beyond the Sundrop’s ability to heal or have it taken away from them.

The ability to share this rapid healing with others (if you ask right)

The ability to freely draw on the raw, near-limitless energy of the sun to shape into things like cool-looking energy blasts (only if you ask right)

The Moonstone

The moonstone has powers over varying levels of destruction: from destroying things by ripping them apart/ to Not Letting Things Be Destroyed(also known as protecting) by freezing them in indestructible rock. Like the moon, it can ‘reflect’ a bit of the sundrop’s power, so it can kinda provide energy, albeit a lot less than the sundrop can provide. It’s the inevitable march of The End of All Things, fertilizing the fields of time with the ashes of the old so the new can take root.

The Moonstone is a bit more in the dark(pun intended hehe) when it comes to bonding with someone, it can only try to figure out what is going on based off the emotions of its wielder, and through anything directly touching the Black Rocks. Because of this it’s... Kinda dumb? It tries to do things to help(Like shooting red fear-rocks to try and scare away whatever must be scaring its wielder so badly) but often fails spectacularly at helping.

Under the influence of the Moonstone you get:

Mortals get Neat Body Armor that’s actually just you being turned into a rock! They are very fragile! They need to be protected! The best the Moonstone can do to try and preserve you is to Stop All Destruction by.. Pausing all bodily functions indefinitely. Rocks don’t need to eat, sleep, or breathe, and almost nothing can destroy you if you’re solid Black Rock. The weak reflection of the Sundrop’s energy keeps the host animated, but they’re not exactly alive anymore. Like cryostasis. Wounds (if any) acquired in this state won’t be a problem because they’re not messing anything up, because nothing is technically working in the first place, but they will be a problem when you’re not protected in this way anymore. It’s a cosmic ‘I’ll deal with that later’ button, essentially.

Like the moon, the Moonstone can reflect the light of the sun. It uses its rock crystals to do so, which can even split the sun’s power into different shades, like a prism. Essentially, different colored rocks can mean new and exciting power sets.

Blue Lightning! The Moonstone can reflect the Sundrop’s power, so it also has access to pure bursts of energy, even if it is weaker and colder.

The Moonstone is very helpful, but usually has no idea what you want. ‘Asking’ the Moonstone for more control over its power in the same way you would Ask the Sundrop for more power reminds it of the perfect bond it used to share. The Moonstone’s incantation deepens the bond between wielder and Moonstone in such a way that it actually knows what you want from it, giving you near perfect control of its powers.

*This is kind of just a side note of the Drops: While the Moonstone is weaker than the Sundrop in an head-on fight, it could hold its own if it were on the defensive. Redirecting the power instead of trying to overpower and such.

** Cass made of rocks means I get to draw her skeleton :) not in every picture that would be fucking nuts and way too much work alskjdf;lkjs;fv

#helping hand #a helping hand #casstopia #cassandratopia 2 #mine #so yeah next comic is happening still #but I can't promise when #maybe in like 6 months when one of my dnd games wraps up #my siblings are the ones who play weekly #and I said i'd run a shorter campaign for them #like half a year campaign #then I'll only be running one game!#and I'll have time to draw comic stuff and finish finalizing my draft #I'd also like to apologize in advance for my clunky storytelling #I've literally never done this before lakjs;dlkcvj;lksjf

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midnight-raven · 4 years

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SkyBridger: The Sun & the Moon

Millions of years ago, two drops of light fell from the heavens and landed on the Earth.

The first was a single drop of bright sunlight, which gave birth to The Miracle Flower. A magical golden flower that could heal the sick and injured.

The second was a drop of pure moonlight, which resulted in the Moon Opal. A stone that had the power of destruction and decay.

The magic of both the Sun and Moon was more powerful than anything else on Earth. Many sought out the powers, separately and together.

For thousands of years, it was prophesied that the Sundrop and Moonstone would one day unite.

It was undetermined what would happen if they did. It would change the world.

But.. for better or worse?

Once Upon a Time, two boys were born on the same day. Each one was born in a different land, each one was born with a different life.

There was Prince Luke Skywalker, son of King Anikan and Queen Padme. Twin Brother to Princess Leia. The Descendants of Sundrop.

The other was Ezra Bridger, the son of two farmers in a village called Lothal. The Moonstone Holder.

You may be wondering why these two boys that are total opposites would be important to this story. Allow me to explain.

Long ago, when Queen Padme was due to give birth, she fell gravely ill. The kingdom searched for a cure and that’s when they came across the Miracle Flower. A magical golden flower that healed the Queen.

As a result of her recovery, came the birth of twins Prince Luke and Princess Leia.

Prince Luke was born with golden hair, while the rest of his family had brown hair. Luke had also inherited the mystical powers of the flower that had saved his mother. He could heal any injury or illness.

Meanwhile...

Ephraim and Mira Bridger once lived in the Dark Kingdom, where the legendary Moon Opal stood. Until one night, the Moonstone became unstable. The stone shattered and its power spread throughout the kingdom, before disappearing into the night. The stone no longer held the moon's power.

In the aftermath of the destruction, Ephraim and Mira moved away from the large kingdom, and into a quiet village called Lothal. It was there that the couple had their son, Ezra.

Little did they know, as a result of their survival, Ezra was gifted with the power of the MoonStone. Ezra had the power of the Indestructible Black Rocks that guarded the MoonStone.

While these two boys lived in different parts of the world and held polar opposite powers.

It was destined that one day, they would find each other and combine their powers.

#Skybridger #Soulmate au #Twin Suns meet Twin Moons #Luke Skywalker #Luke is pretty much Rapunzel here #Ezra Bridger #Ezra is basically Elsa here #Into the Unknown Soulmate au

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sketchycookie · 4 years

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Dude, I had a blast doodling this! I’ve always wanted to have Rose be a hidden elemental/celestial power that also came from the sky, like the Sundrop and Moonstone. SO I made this thing. I’m debating whether to keep calling it the Fire Ruby or some other name. But it’s basically a red ruby stone that came from a comet/meteor which Demanitus studied and then made it into a sword which then he gave to Rose’s great grandmother. Unlike the Moonstone and the Sundrop, the ruby is all about causing destruction and chaos. It’s main ability is about fire and making the user indestructible. There’s so much more to it which I didn’t draw because I’m dumb. So enjoy what I have.

I realized she looks like Lavagirl.

#tangled the series #tangled the series oc #tts oc #rapunzel's tangled adventure #rapunzel's tangled adventure oc #rta oc #rose amarti #original character #oc #Character Design #My art stuff #tangled varian #varian #varian tangled

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nightmare-grass · 3 years

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I know the show has been over for a long time but I hope the Tangled fandom will take my humble offering of my idea for a rewrite of Tangled the Series.

- The sun and moon shouldn’t be competing forces, they should be the two elements that keep the world balanced. The earth itself should be the third, more antagonistic element that the sun’s warm light and the moon’s cooling tidal forces bring into balance

- The black rocks are from the earth’s core, demons all come from the earth, there’s a lot of evil people on the earth, and so in my version of Tangled, the Earth is the element of the main villain.

- The Sun heals and brings life to the planet, the Moon soothes and covers the world in oceans, and so the Earth is kept from unleashing it’s primordial fury

- In ancient times, when the Earth was newly formed, after a bunch of natural disasters, a drop of sunlight fell from the heavens and created a golden flower, the Sundrop Lily. At the same time, far away, a chunk of the moon fell to the earth, and inside that space rock was the Moonstone. Overtime, people settled the areas and kingdoms grew around the two cosmic elements. The objects faded into legend.

- When the Sundrop Lily is taken from its hill, the earth sends its spires to guard the Moonstone

- Without its equal, the Moonstone’s power destabilized, causing sea levels to rise in the kingdom that was built around it. Quickly, the Dark Kingdom became unsafe for its citizens, and everyone left except for the king, queen, and the king’s most trusted agents. He even sent away his 8 year old son, who suffered head trauma during the trip to the next kingdom over and lost all memories of his childhood. He grew up in various orphanages and became a thief, taking on the name of his favorite character, Flynn Rider. Meanwhile, the queen of the Dark Kingdom died due to illness caused by stress, and the king slowly went mad in his self-imposed isolation.

- When the Sundrop’s connection to Rapunzel is severed at the end of Tangled, the spires cover the shrine to the former growing place of the Sundrop Lily

- When Rapunzel touches the spires, they summon what little essence is left in the soil and in Rapunzel and that summons her long golden hair back, but the rocks imbue her with some of their own defensive power (indestructibility, magical shielding, concussive blasts of light)

- The Sundrop and Moonstone would overpower and burn up anyone who tried to use their power in tandem, so they were never meant to be joined

- Zhan Tiri spent her mortal lifespan gathering power through dark rituals and necromancy, and when she died she became the most powerful demon in the world. This power is what makes her believe that she alone should wield the cosmic forces of the Sundrop and Moonstone.

- Let’s keep the plot line of Varian turning to more dark paths in his quest to understand the black rocks, the Sundrop, and the cosmic forces as they pertain to science, but after Varian’s big villainous moment instead of imprisoning him they take him on the road trip to the moonstone, as a sort of rehabilitation

- The adventuring party will consist of Rapunzel, Eugene, Cass, Varian, and Lance, none of the dumbasses from the Snuggly Duckling, they just were so unnecessary

- The black rocks lead Rapunzel and co. to the Moonstone because their power is being wielded by Zhan Tiri and her demon horde, and they want to use the cosmic forces to destroy everything

- Zhan Tiri still manipulates Cassandra into taking the Moonstone, but instead of the moon spirit disguise, she takes on the form of Mother Gothel. Cass is smart but she’s got serious abandonment issues thanks to Gothel, and Zhan Tiri fully exploits this. Also, Gothel was a follower of Zhan Tiri, so the demon knows all of Gothel’s habits, mannerisms, and secrets.

- Cass takes the Moonstone and gets control over water. She can also conjure storms by controlling the water in the air.

- When Cass gets the Moonstone and goes off on her own, she takes on a more Pirate-y role and has a castle of sunken ships in the middle of the ocean

- The Decay incantation is the incantation of the earth, since everything would die without the sun or moon. It’s just in the earth’s nature to die.

- The Decay incantation is designed to block the power of the Sun and Moon (e.g. if Rapunzel is using it, the incantation will block out her Sundrop powers, turning her hair and eyes black)

- There are two incantations for each cosmic force. One incantation is for surface level powers (Sun/healing and Moon/storms and tides) and the other is for the full power of each cosmic element (Sun/light and Moon/darkness)

- Sun’s color is yellow, Moon’s color is blue, and Earth’s color is red, so the tint on the black rocks is red, as if there’s magma trapped inside, and anyone using the Sun and Moon elements together gets a green aura immediately around them while around the edges it still looks yellow and blue

- Incantations will be called the Decay (Earth), Healing (Sun), Storm (Moon), Dawn (Sun Full Power), and Shadow (Moon Full Power) incantations

- In the end, the powers of the Sun and Moon will be harnessed by Rapunzel to fix everything and released. When they are released, they turn back into the Sundrop seed and the Moonstone, and Rapunzel plants the seed back where the original flower was. The Moonstone, in turn, is placed back in the Dark Kingdom. This restores balance and peace to the Earth.

#tangled the series #rapunzel’s tangled adventure #tangled #Disney channel #Disney #rewrite #tts #rta

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