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#the riverlands
sare11aa11eras · 1 year
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So like. The Riverlands, or at least Harrenhal, have like a gravitational pull. Which is why Catelyn, Jaime, Brienne, and Arya can’t ever escape there. Even in death, Catelyn can’t leave. Her memory and her body are bound together and to her homeland once more. And Jaime and Brienne spend all their time in ASOS in the Riverlands, and you think they’ll escape back to civilization and King’s Landing, and they do, but a) they are changed irrevocably from the people who started out so like did they really leave? and b) King’s Landing turns out to be a brief respite only. They must return once more, and they may even die there. And then Arya spends like two whole books there, wandering and traveling and never getting to where she needs to go. And even when she leaves, even with the whole Narrow Sea between her and those forests and streams, her consciousness and her soul still reside there, and she returns there every night, renewing her connection. Okay? They are stuck. They’re trapped. It’s just endless forest and rivers and the occasional band of outlaws or travelers or abandoned castles. Which, none of them can leave, either. Gendry and the Brotherhood are still there, even when their original purpose is lost and their leader dies. Jeyne, the orphans at the inn, Ravella Smallwood, the Freys, the Brackens and Blackwoods, the Bloody Mummers, the bear from the Harrenhal Bear Pit— they are all trapped. Okay?
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alaynerhinestone · 8 days
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something about sansa and arya both being connected to harrenhal thru sexually violent men who act as both ally and enemy, who betray their parents and try to claim them as their daughters, the last surviving whents of harrenhal marrying into house tully and house frey, the cycle of violence, the riverlands as eternal theater of war, I am the ghost in harrenhal
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ser-zoras · 13 days
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never be able to put into words how I felt reading the jb storm arc the first time. like. these two knights who are also not knights who hate each other but also rely on each other and who will both protect whatever part of the other that they value most (Jaime’s betrayal of Aerys was based on how much he values innocent life, and he protects Brienne’s at great expense to himself, obviously Brienne values honor and she protects Jaime’s at great expense to herself). Brienne coveting aspects of Jaime’s identity because he got to be a knight but also resenting him for throwing that away, Jaime coveting aspects of Jaime’s identity for still being the sort of boy he had to kill, but also resenting her because she didn’t have to do that to herself. Both eventually deciding they’re worth more than that. And it all happens in the FUCKING RIVERLANDS
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racefortheironthrone · 6 months
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In a world where Robb Stark wins his war and manages to consolidate his realm, with the 7K being no more, lets assume he also annexes the northern crownlands too, what kind of council or burocracy would he establish to govern and how much of your economic development plans could he reasonably carry out in his lifetime and how could he unify his 2 realms economy into a cohesive unit?
In a Stark victory scenario, I think annexing the northern Crownlands would be an overstretch and something of a distraction from more important tasks (like bringing the Iron Islands and the Vale into his sphere of influence so that he can govern a geographically, economically, and politically coherent kingdom/coalition of northern Westeros).
To quote King Robb:
"Duskendale, on the narrow sea? Why would they go to Duskendale?" He'd shook his head, bewildered. "A third of my foot, lost for Duskendale?"
What matters in a brand-new Kingdom of the North is things like whether Gulltown accepts silver coins minted in White Harbor with Robb's face on them as valid payment for debts and taxes, or whether the Ironborn agree to keep their reaving south of Ironman's Bay, or whether the Stark navy can keep the Trident open all the way to the Bay of Crabs so that the Riverlands can keep trading directly with Braavos.
I did some back-reading through various economic development posts to see what I'd said in the past about the tricky scenario of how one balances the interests of multiple kingdoms in pursuing economic development. One of the things I'm noticing is that there are some reforms where there is real issues with competition/duplication of efforts (a Kingdom of the North can probably only support one Bank, one canal scheme, one sub-treasury system, one purchasing/marketing cooperative, etc.), some reforms where individual kingdoms can pursue their own goals but where there would be an issue about how the king balances the rewards he's doling out between the kingdoms (do you put your marginal dragon into winter schools and greenhouses for the North or church schools for the Riverlands or roads for the Vale?), and some where every kingdom can pitch in in a common effort (if there's going to be one sub-treasury plan, you're going to need a network of granaries along waterways from the Last River down to the Trident, the same information about how to improve agricultural productivity can be shared between the North, the Riverlands, and the Vale basically for free, etc).
That being said, one of the major political challenges of the Kingdom of the North was always going to be how you balance the interests of the component kingdoms and make everyone feel like the central government is giving them a fair deal and being attentive to their interests - and as you say, forging them into a cohesive economy would go a long way into doing that. So for example, one priority should be in working out reciprocity in trade between the newly-chartered cities. It certainly helps that a bunch of them (White Harbor, Gulltown, Maidenpool, Lord Harroway's Town, Saltpans) are along the same coast of the Narrow Sea or just upriver from the Narrow Sea, which makes close trade links more likely. However, you're going to want to make formal legal arrangements that, when it comes to port fees and staple fees and warehousing fees and the like, all of the North's cities agree to set them as low as possible for other Northern cities (if not an outright zollverein), and that burgher rights are transferrable between cities and that city ordinances will be honored by other cities, and so on.
In terms of "council or burocracy would he establish to govern," Robb was already taking a decent first step to bolster Lord Paramount Edmure Tully by appointing Brynden the Blackfish as Warden of the Southern Marches.
As I've written before, issuing city charters would be a crucial element of governing the Riverlands effectively. Giving Maidenpool, Lord Harroway's Town, Stoney Sept, Fairmarket, and Seagard a combination of economic and political self-governance would paradoxically allow King Robb to project royal authority more effectively - especially when it comes to generating revenue and manpower and enforcement of economic regulations.
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game-of-style · 8 months
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House Mallister of Seagard, sworn to House Tully -  Atelier Couture Paradise
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starkslydia · 2 years
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HOUSE TULLY is a noble house founded by First Men during the Age of Heroes. Their seat is Riverrun, on the Riverlands of Westeros. The Tully heir is to be named Lord or Lady of Riverrun, as well as Lord or Lady Paramount of the Trident. Their sigil is a leaping silver trout. The Tully family words are “Family, Duty, Honor”.
A short HISTORY of the NOBLE HOUSES of WESTEROS (1/11)
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asharaxofstarfall · 8 months
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Catelyn Tully of Riverrun
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𝗧𝗢𝗨𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗧 𝗔𝗨- 𝗔 𝗦𝗢𝗡𝗚 𝗢𝗙 𝗜𝗖𝗘 𝗔𝗡𝗗 𝗙𝗜𝗥𝗘
Have you ever asked yourself what a book for tourist traveling to Westeros would look like ? Well, my intrusive thoughts and lack of sleep helped me come up with this idea. It's just the first part of 9 I'll do one for each region of the land of Westeros, but I already have plan to do it to the region's of Westeros too. I based myself not just on the cultures of the real world but also Westeros, and what they would look like in a modern setting, so yeah enjoy my crazy shit because I sure did when I woke up today and decided to do this.
NORTH. VALE. WESTERLANDS. REACH. STORMLANDS. CROWNLANDS. DORNE. IRON ISLANDS.
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clytemnaestraes · 9 months
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Catelyn tully as a young woman
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Lysa tully in her girlhood
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Catelyn waiting for her father Hoster Tully
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Petyr baelish asking for Catelyn's favour against Brandon Stark, a request that is rejected.
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zetaaa · 1 year
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Any good dog loves cuddles. And Dog is a very good boy.
(I wonder whom Brienne is thinking of)
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hacked-wtsdz · 1 year
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A little obsessed with themes of haunting and ghosts in asoiaf. Characters are surrounded by ghosts, they are ghosts, they love ghosts, they are part of ghosts, they live in places that are ghosts, they unleash ghosts and they bargain with ghosts, most importantly they are haunted by ghosts. Ghosts and curses and prophecies are all very closely tied together in the narrative. Arya who is a ghost in Harrenhal, already a place full of them, Harren and his sons, countless lords and servants, burnt by wildfire, burnt again and again, because the place is said to be cursed. The Red Keep with bodies of its builders buried somewhere within, the Red Keep full of black cells with some half-men, half-ghosts still waiting for justice and sunlight. With skulls of dragons beneath its floors, a defeated legacy. Winterfell with its crypts, full of dead starks, and they are more than just crypts: they are a shelter, a haunted house, a sept in a way. The whole of the riverlands one single haunted space, as if executed with one giant hand of Tywin Lannister. He unleashes a curse with deeds so vile they start haunting lands and fates and houses, Westeros itself. That story Bran tells, about the rat cook who killed guests in his own house, and was cursed to devour his own sons; Walder Frey murdering his guests at the Red Wedding. Drogo is taken from Dany through a bargain with the dead. The dead haunt her: Rhaegar on the Trident, dragons and hundreds of her Targaryen ancestors. House Targaryen is a ghost. Westeros itself is haunting Dany, something she cannot remember. The entire white walkers story is literally the dead getting up from the graves, from the ground and walking, killing. Not alive, not dead, not exactly ghosts. What harm can Lyanna Stark’s ghost do us? Catelyn Stark back from the dead, mute. “She don’t talk but she remembers”. Idk it all seems very consecutive, as if the ghosts are active parts of the story, even from the grave navigating the characters, affecting reality. “It all goes back and back to our fathers and mothers and theirs before them”. Jenny dancing with her ghosts.
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warsofasoiaf · 2 months
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what do you think of Race for the iron throne's new riverlands castle named The Tines?
As a tumblr pro-tip, it's best when referencing a post to provide a hyperlink in your ask. Otherwise I have to go find it. @racefortheironthrone did tag that post, but it may not always be the case.
It's not a bad idea. If it works out, you can enrich yourself on river trade and project power into the eastern Riverlands. While Bracken and Blackwood are the most infamous of the quarreling Riverlander vassals, the worldbook says that the Riverlands always has issues, so it's worth having a castle that can secure the valuable river crossings - the Riverlands depends on their rivers as natural defenses and so it's worth having a castle and dock there to secure Riverlander power away from Riverrun itself.
One thing I disagree with though is that while Daeron II could have given Daemon Blackfyre the right to raise a castle in the Crownlands by right of them being directly administered by him, it's also possible that castle rights could be an office within the purview of the king, in which case House Tully might need to ensure that they have a good relationship with the Iron Throne in order to be allowed to make that castle. That doesn't always come up in his hypotheticals - since the economic development plans come from the context of the region in itself acting as its own entity, but it's just a potential hiccup that an enterprising Tully might need to manage.
Thanks for the question, Mr.
SomethingLikeALawyer, Hand of the King
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racefortheironthrone · 10 months
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This is the Riverlands canal asker again. Thank you for answering my question. That's very interesting though, do you think the Riverlands could become an entrepreneur with trade from across Westeros and Essos using them as a speedier means to hit Oldtown/Lannisport? Could Harrenhal be remade into a commodities exchange market?
I implied this (although didn't perhaps go into enough detail) in my Westerosi Economic Development entry on the Riverlands. In my defense, it was the first entry and the series had a way of growing more elaborate over time as I warmed to the subject:
"a Blue Fork to Ironman’s Bay canal would hugely increase trade, to the benefit of House Mallister and my own (since the ships would have to pass by Riverrun-2), and allow House Mallister to better check the Freys (although I’d definitely insist that the Mallisters put some of the extra cash into more oceangoing ships - I want them to be the Riverlands Redwynes). At the same time, Riverrun-2 should ensure that the Mallisters’ new dependence on riverrine trade means a certain deference (make sure those ships’ keels are too long for the canal)."
Later on, in a separate post, the idea of a canal connecting the Godseye (and thus the Blackwater) to the Trident appealed to me as a secondary canal system.
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And yes, I think the Riverlands could prosper from such an endeavor, both as an entrepôt between Oldtown/Lannisport and King's Landing/the Free CIties and as an exporter of grain, cattle, and other commodities.
As far as "Harrenhal be remade into a commodities exchange market," my original theory of the case was that a Blue Fork canal would drive urban development to settlements along the Trident and Blue Fork - Maidenpool, Lord Harroway's Town, Seagard. In that context, Harrenhal is a little inconvenient because it lies a good 75 miles or so to the south of the Trident.
However, if you were to build a secondary canal to the Godseye, Harrenhal would absolutely rise in economic prominence through its ability to dominate the King's Landing trade route.
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game-of-style · 8 months
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Alysanne Blackwood - Rahul Mishra Haute Couture Spring 2023
Alysanne Blackwood, also known as Black Aly, was a member of House Blackwood. During the Targaryen civil war known as the Dance of the Dragons, the Blackwoods sided with the blacks. Alysanne commanded archers of the riverlands during the battle of the Kingsroad. After Lord Benjicot Blackwood broke the flank of Lord Borros Baratheon’s royalist greens, Alysanne’s archers slew the royalist knights. During the Hour of the Wolf, Alysanne agreed to marry Cregan in exchange for allowing Aegon III’s pardon of Lord Corlys Velaryon to stand.
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octopath-traveler-ost · 8 months
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"The Riverlands" - By Yasunori Nishiki
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Imagine Catelyn visiting Riverrun with her daughters and showing them the places where she and her sister used to play as kids.
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