#the show that would be prestige......

[romansmartini]

#better call saul #my stuff #*shows up to your prestige drama one year late with an illustration* hey. #i’d like to make a screenprintable version of this but we’ll see. hmmmm #this would make a good poster too methinks. hmm

[mxtxfanatic]

Interesting commentary about how most people will identify with victims/victimhood while feeling discomfort when others identify with perpetrators, especially given the fact we live in societies (at least the one I’m in and the one that book was written in) that habitually materially revile victims on every level while championing and supporting perpetrators of certain violence.

#human reads time limited hunt #this convo comes up cause jiang lian is explaining to shi shanyan #how he wishes yan junxun would get at least one case wrong #because his ability to empathize with serial killers to this degree #unsettles ‘normal folks’ #but at the same time #is anyone *really* indentifying with the victims? #because the only reason why the crimes in this book happened #are because neither people nor institutions helped ANY actual victims #in fact they were using actual victims’ stories for prestige and ego boosts #even the victim-turned-serial-killer is using revenge killing *other* people’s assaulters #to make herself feel better #and because of that she ends up fucking up #and murdering an innocent man! #anyways reminds me of that study on kids #that said that showing bullying in kids shows #actually doesn’t prevent bullying #because bullies identify with the victims in shows #while adopting the fictional bullies’ tactics irl #so no lessons were learned #because nobody identified themselves as having the capacity to harm #or at least to harm the ‘undeserving’ #weaponization of victimhood and the aesthetics of innocence and docileness #or something like that #time limited hunt

[skitskatdacat63]

2010 Australian Grand Prix - Jenson Button(ft. Robert Kubica & Felipe Massa)

#this was genuinely a race of attrition in the back. 10/24 cars dnfed and i think all but 2 were technical problems #this was a really exciting race tbh i really had no clue what the podium would be #its weird cause i knew seb mark and nando didnt win it but i was so confused how they were gonna lose it? and then it was like OH JENSE OFC #jense was incredible in this race ah what a comeback #everyone thought he made a huge mistake switching to slicks so early on and then it turned out he was the strat goat #and it makes it better cause it wasnt even a call from the team! it was literally his call!! #as we all know hes a god in the wet and it was so admirable and brave of him to make such a bold call for himself and have it work out #the way he has such dominance and performance in wet races(ex canada 2011) is forever so impressive and cool to me #also!!! this race really proves to me why rly i like 2010. really close racing BUT ALSO: #its so sick that both nando and jense won their first/second race with their new team against their teammates who have been there longer #like to have both of them win with the same prestige is so satisying and emotional for me #and god i got flashbacks to aus 2009 seeing him standing on the car. its cool he won melbourne back to back #but also. this post race honestly sucked. bad tv direction bad lighting(not in their control tbf) i felt like they showed nothing well ah : #tho my fav gif is where felipe is standing on his tippy toes and jense bends down sjakjf #jenson button #robert kubica #felipe massa #f1 #formula 1 #2010 australian gp #we do a little bit of f1

[fakeblue]

always sunny and succession sharing a fanbase is something that doesn’t really make sense until youve seen both shows and then you kinda stand back and go “yeah wait that tracks”

#talking #iasip #succession #on the surface its like what could this 15+ season sitcom and this 3 season prestige drama have in common #but then you’re like ohh yeah. i guess they are kinda shows about awful people with lots of improv/natural dialogue #and Sunny’s a comedy with occasionally dramatic moments #and Succession is a drama with comedic elements #and you know. homoeroticism but that’s in all the popular tumblr girlie shows nowadays #Shakespeare would have a ball with both

[nero-neptune]

i remember watching boardwalk empire and yknow it’s a show about actual gangsters and criminals during the american prohibition era. downright despicable people committing crimes from the very light to the especially heinous. and yet, and yet, outside of the tumblr bubble (which still had an active bwe fandom at the time), i’d come across thread after thread of why margaret thompson or gillian darmody or daughter maitland or lucy danziger or freaking billie kent was Actually the Worst Character on the show. when willie was Right There. people will always find a reason to uwu-ify the guys and dismiss the women as ‘annoying’. every time.

#margaret seems to have gotten the worst of it bc you type 'boardwalk empire margaret' into google #one of the first results if 'boardwalk empire margaret annoying' #when she Wasn't! she was actually a great character! #anyway. that's just one show. no imagine hundreds of other shows #a woman on a show could be nice and friendly and played by a model and people would Still find a reason to hate her #every time i watch a popular 'prestige' show and go looking for discussions about an episode or about an arc or about whatever else #everyone's more likely to hate the 'annoying female' over any guy. and everytime i'm like '...her?' #i should stop being surprised at these things #rambles #boardwalk empire

[homosexualslug]

breaking bad season 5 out of context

#JESSE!! LET'S CUT TO THE CHASE!! I HAVE FEELINGS FOR YOU!! #can't believe this is an actual line how have I seen the 'he can't keep getting away with it!' meme but not this #just to clarify I would never ship these two in a million years but their dynamic compels me #I feel like he treats jesse more as a son than anything looking after him / being overbearing / ruining his life constantly etc #don't get me started on the scene where he calls his own actual son jesse by accident!!! I love writing #anyways ALMOST finished with my my like three year on and off watch of this goddamn show #because I had a quiet weekend to myself and whenever I am alone I end up watching prestige TV and movies I guess #this weekend it was this and past lives #breaking bad #.txt #jesse pinkman #walter white

[absolutely-not-my-main-blog]

Kinda vaguely regret not watching the Emmy's because the whole Sunny cast looked sooo good and my eyeballs would've been glued to the screen just for them before glazing over for the rest of the presentations, but I couldn't break my never watching tv award shows streak... also, I forgor

#iasip #anmmbposts #i don't have a lot of respect for many award shows because they don't have a lot of respect for certain genres and talents #and are very limited in the range of things they'll deem worthy of commendation #so i don't *really* care when things don't get nominated because it's a narrow scope of false prestige #and I don’t really feel compelled to watch that much #but at the same time i care a lot 😔 #because they care!! they deserve respect! #because the disrespect of those they want the namedrop street cred rights to but will never give actual recognition to is palpable #and it stings a little #but anyway what was i saying the gang looked so hot glenn slayed i should've tuned in just to see them because wow wow wow #sorry i missed their absolute looks of the year but alas #hearing award show music would activate my sleeper agent fight mode i don't like it makes me feel ill at ease and couldn't say why #ignore me <3 #but also when my special little guys do win the prestige is real because like it matters to them to their hard work they deserve it

[pinkeoni]

I can understand that romance may not be the core of a show but I think that this wierd aversion people have to romance in TV may be blinding to them to some pretty obvious displays of romantic coding in the show’s script and visual language

#also to not be vague its sydcarmy im talking about sydcarmy from the bear #why would they have sydney taking issue with claire specifically if they didnt want us to think there wasn’t something of the love triangle #nature going on #why would there be that entire scene under the table in ep 9 if there wasnt supposed to be any spark between them #if you dont like them romantically #i think thats def fair #but what is with this adament disdain of romance in tv and the idea that prestige television cant have romance #i worry that no matter how well the show pulls it off people will hate it anyways #robin rambles #tv posting

[tiberius-kirks]

I know someone said it already but it's truly insane to me how quickly gomens2 devolved fans into tjlc-levels of unwell

#i skimmed the first bit of that 16k doc about how ngaiman is a Good Writer Actually in respect to gomens2 and. well #i mean. they could be right. in the way that tjlc could be right in that theoretically it's not impossible #but people arent meant to analyze shows this much. it's meant as a season 2 to a moderately popular s1 which was based of a beloved book #it's not meant to be full of prestige. it's a tv show #are there themes? sure! are there hidden details? sure! #is the writing bad On Purpose? probably not. why would you fumble the ball so hard when you're not guaranteed s3 to clear your name- #-and show the prestige. #idk i havent seen s2 I'm not gonna watch it but like. ngaiman is normally a good writer. but he is also fallible #<- dont come at me for this. i've liked some of his novels and disliked others and am not speaking to him as a person merely his pubbed work #anyways. sorry if you see this ? just got mad at people for not believing that some things can just be bad. and it can suck! but no one- #-is infallible as a writer. and sometimes the team making a show is gonna change the color of the sky because they forgot what it used to be

[mummer]

god i guess it’s time to get a new Show. brutal. i feel like im betraying lovers

#how can i live without a Show. except every show that is suggested to me sounds like something i do not want to watch #doctor who’s coming back at the end of the year… i’ll probably do a full rewatch before that i guess…. #all the big prestige shows im just like. Uuuggh……zzzz… even though i know theyre great and i’ll like them #also i would love to watch something communally with a zeitgeist but thats gotta develop naturally #im a season into the x files but it’s so monster of the weeky that i dont have motivation to binge it really…. #i’ll be done with my black sails rewatch soon…. #this is the greatest conundrum of our time.

[navree]

Have you watched Rome (HBO)? If yes what's your opinion on it?

I've watched some of it, but to be honest I didn't really like it. They got things like how society operated in that time, and I think Ciaran Hinds is an incredible actor and did his best with the material he had, and if you just want a good drama and don't know anything about the period and the actual history that went on, you'll probably like it. Plus, James Purefoy was genuinely perfect casting. It's why I wish that the show was better than it was.

Problem is, I do know the history. I know the history quite well, because the general fall of the Republic and rise of the Empire is an incredibly interesting time and Augustus is one of my favorite people to read about, from a historical perspective he's fascinating. And the show bungles a lot in that regard. I've never been a particular fan of "we're going to invent these fictitious characters and make them important to the historical narrative" type things, and the combining of characters caused some major problems for me personally (combining Atia Balba with Fulvia to create the show's version of Atia was very annoying to me personally, considering how at odds it is to the historical Atia Balba), and just in general a lot of the characters felt very shallow and like they were crafted more out of a pop culture understanding of who these people were rather than actually examining them historically. Like, ooh Cleopatra is a sexually voracious and seductive minx and Octavian is a monstrous little viper, how incredibly novel, never been done before. Not like the reality of Cleopatra as someone who wasn't very attractive but was so intelligent and charismatic that she seemed leagues better than any other woman, but still prideful and stubborn enough to let it be her downfall is more interesting than cokewhore but make it Hellenistic. Not like Octavian as an incredibly smart person and brilliant politician whose complicated family life created a situation that had him latch onto Caesar as a father figure (and Caesar himself having lost a child shortly before they started getting close allowing that latching to be entirely mutual) and who started his journey to power as a personal revenge quest and whose litany of personal tragedies at a young age created the circumstances that allowed him to make colder and colder decisions for the betterment of himself and his family and his country is more interesting than wimpy deviant who can't fight. IDK, they made Livia marginally more two-dimensional than most other pop culture portrayals of her (I, Claudius your sins are numerous and shan't be forgiven), but that's about it. From someone who's read a lot about all of these people and has consistently found that who they actually were is leagues more interesting and creatively inspiring than anything anyone could actually make up, the show being composed entirely of preconceived notions with some sprinkling of "this is what I remember from Shakespeare's Roman plays" just did not do it for me at all.

Also, Agrippa/Octavia is a fucking cop out and anyone who writes it is a genuine coward. Like, you cannot tell me that out of the two siblings, the relationship you find the most interesting is the one he had with Octavia, when Agrippa and Octavian were friends since they were twelve and were completely and reciprocally so incredibly devoted to each other that it almost defies description and beggars belief. Agrippa never once tried to grab power even though he absolutely could have and was perfectly happy being nothing more than Octavian's right hand man until the day he died. Octavian's first ever political act, the thing that kickstarted his entire career, was asking Caesar of his own volition to not kill Agrippa's brother (it's complicated) and Caesar saying yes entirely because it was Octavian who asked, not only showing how loyal Octavian was to his friends but also essentially binding the two of them together for life. It was a forty year relationship of the most insanely codependent friendship of all time, either get with the program and make it homoerotic or just admit you have no talent and wanna hetify it.

#personal #answered #immortalthunderstorm #i do also acknowledge that the show got cancelled before they were able to do everything they wanted #which is why the second season is so rushed #from my understanding i think they wanted to end it with jesus which would have been cool #but yeah the julio claudians are kinda my roman forte #so this show is uhhhhhhhhhhhh not my favorite #as i meant for this response to be significantly shorter than it was before i started ranting #there's a reason why i have ideas in my head about a period drama prestige tv show for this era #it can be Really Good if you just let it and don't rely on your pop culture understanding of these people

[cctinsleybaxter]

Shiv pregnancy subplot is extra annoying me because I’m watching succ concurrently w/ yeIIowjackets and on that show the pregnancy subplot written by women is intentionally like, the most over-the-top insane melodrama (stranded in the canadian wilderness.. dying, pregananonat, she won’t tell her best friend who the father is bc she was cheating with her boyfriend, but wait it gets worse), meanwhile succ writers are constructing the most boring, predictable melodrama around a pregnancy- which they only shoehorned in bc the actress was pregnant- and are asking to be taken seriously

#I have my issues with y-jackets but it’s more ‘this glorified cw show is trying to have its cake and eat it too’ #and less ‘this prestige drama would be good if everything about it were different’ lol #succession

[dogtheories]

guys do we think the show created by two men with mostly men on the writing and production staff that has men as almost every single one of its main characters about the specific mental struggles of a man who is a war veteran in a genre targeted towards men is a show that is targeted to men or not

#soda.txt #thats not really how you do that kind of demographic targeting anymore especially for what is essentially a prestige show but i mean. #i wouldnt look at a show like barry and call it Targeted To Women. would you

[zindagi-jhandwa-firbhi-ghamandwa]

I don't get why Hollywood is constantly remaking speculative fiction series where the author is a transphobic asshole or that have racist elements in it or where they have to forcibly shoehorn a diverse cast because the original cast in the book is only white people...

When all these problems can be solved by adapting Ursula K. LeGuin!

#wheres my goddamn book accurate prestige tv adaptation of a wizard of earthsea #i also think a five season book (and radio show) accurate version of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy would be dope #though it is admittedly almost entirely male #I have hope that Douglas Adams fans would approve a multiethnic cast because Richard Ayoade as either Arthur Dent or Ford Prefect 🤌🏾

[heathermakescomics]

#wednesday #wednesday addams #addams family #sketch #myart #art #hjart #im liking the new show but im not sure i love it #the joke about snapping twice was funny #its campy so at least we have that bc addams family is peak camp so it got that right at least i was worried itd be a prestige tv take #which would be yuck

[shitpostingfromthebarricade]

I don't know how to verbalize this just yet, but Heathers: the Musical and Batman (2022) said the same thing.

#batman and Heathers spoilers ahead #something something giving previously unknown people praise and a platform for dangerous rhetoric is what makes them dangerous #I've been thinking constantly the past three days about the ideological differences between the original Heather movie #and the Heathers musical #and at whose feet the blame for things like mass shootings gets lain #bc the original movie says it's one dangerous and manipulative mastermind #and a little bit blames Veronica for allowing herself to be manipulated so easily #whereas the musical says he had these ideas but it never dawned on him to act on them until they started gaining him prestige and attention #and even support from others #which gradually encouraged him to continue escalating #and Batman explores this same idea in a different way #and I'm so happy that they show the Riddler's meltdown when it turns out his idol disagrees with him #and that he actually will not be remembered and will fade into obscurity #same energy as JD trying to turn the failed spectacle at the school into a love ballad and something done in Veronica's honir #*honor #and she rejects it #GOD Batman is shaping up to be so much better than I dared to hope though #especially since I was SO worried that the thing in the beginning with Bruce ignoring the accountants would be a throwaway thing #CULPABILITY #also I really feel like the director understood Batman when the Riddler said ''it doesn't matter if we unmask you bc this is who you are'' #Nolanverse missed the point on that so hard #tbh a lot of elements of this also feel so much closer to a version of the script I'd read by a director whose name I forget rn #between Schumacher being dismissed and Nolan being brought on #it was R-rated so they dismissed it #but it had SO MANY great ideas that I am so glad are brought up here #(yeah that's right you didn't realize I have a Batman hyperfixation too) #(Multitudes Bitch) #heathers #batman #not les mis