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neonsheepe · 5 months
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Those fangs bite.
Sakumo needed some love ❤️
I came across this cool photograph with hard lighting and was inspired to do a speed paint referencing it. It’s been a while since I did more realistic style but when I’m in the mood, it’s so fun!
And on a side note: I really do think there could have been something else going on behind the scenes to drive Sakumo to do what he did. Like, there is no way someone saving their comrades could be ostracized so badly when that’s uh… kind of one of the main things nost shinobi get taught? Is teamwork? Like, I get it, complete the mission at all costs but with everything fucky that happened within the government of the leaf, there is no way that something *wasnt* going on, yanno?
Anyway my HC is that Sakumo committed seppuku to restore honour to his family name so that Kakashi wouldn’t have to be punished for his own mistakes. It was either that or he was going to die in a “mysterious accident on mission”.(not by his own hand of course.) (I have thought too long about this).
Sakumo deserved so much better.
(HE WAS FAMOUS. HE HAD A NAME. He was a genius and a giant asset to the Leaf! It makes no sense they would do that to him!)
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howlingday · 2 months
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Jaune: Ugh...
White Fang: He's coming to.
Jaune: What... What do you want?
White Fang: Silence, human! We will ask the questions here!
Jaune: Okay...
White Fang: Where is your team? When is your extraction?
Jaune: ...I'll answer you if you answer one question for me.
White Fang: Fine, human scum. I'll humor you. Ask your question.
Jaune: Do you know what's worse than a captured huntsman?
White Fang: Your team? What the hell kind of question is that?
Jaune: Eh, pretty close. But it's actually a person with a reason to live.
White Fang: (Feels Jaune ship breathing down his neck)
Jaune: And in case you couldn't tell, I'M their reason to live.
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tumblingxelian · 4 months
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I saw a post earlier today that really kinda got my goat so to speak so I wanted to re-post my take without starting shit on tumblr dot com.
I categorically disagree with the idea that Adam was ever planned to be the main leader of the White Fang pre coup.
We meet Adam leading what was suppose to be a resource acquisition mission that he turned into an attempted mass murder for shits and giggles because he is a blood thirsty idiot.
Not only is that incredibly wastefully and politically stupid of him, it is also not reflective of what Blake described the White Fang's methodology as during Volumes 1. IE the methods that actually were working and were introduce by said new leader which Adam was blatantly ignoring.
It also makes clear his relationship with Blake is awful given the manipulation, the lies, the dismissal and using her as a shield, and maniacal cackling ETC.
The second time we see Adam its in volume 2 right after its revealed that a ton of Faunus died because of Cinder's plan and Mercury wonders if they will still obey. Adam arrives and promising to continue throwing his people's lives away for Cinder. Making it quite clear where Adam stands on the subject while showing the White Fang itself lacks any loyalty to Cinder.
Before V3 we have two possible mentions, one being the silhouettes in V1, one of which could be argued to represent Adam, but also contained two other people. & the masks reference which, if Adam was the leader, you'd think Blake would just say it was an idea their leader came up with. The fact she didn't should make it clear to any viewer that Adam was just popular, but not in charge.
Going into V3, we already know he's fine throwing Faunus lives away for Cinder, so anything he says when rejecting Cinder needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Yeah Adam wasn't just gonna work with some random human cos he doesn't like humans and his people are watching so his behavior is performative. Cinder leaves, then returns and makes it clear she can kill him if he doesn't obey and he instantly bows because, shock and horror the manipulative abuser is not actually all that brave when its 'his' ass on the line, setting the stage for what we already know happens by V2.
Adam was never meant to be the leader, Adam was never a genuine revolutionary, Adam was always an abusive cowardly liar and manipulator seeking power and appeasement for himself.
Losing Sienna was a tragedy and genuinely a huge mistake on the writers part and Ghira taking over again is in no way ideal, but Adam is not some tragic loss. He's one of a dime a dozen would be revolutionaries who only care about the 'revolution' for their own ends. Any passing glance at historical revolutions and rebel movements will show people like him.
One can criticize the White Fang plotline without needing to big up someone like Adam; just like one can endorse revolutionaries without advocating for war crimes. Discuss Sienna and how she could have been introduced earlier or avoid her demise. Bring up how Ilia's arc could have potentially led her to being the one leading a revitalized White Fang. Or how Blake herself could potentially have taken the reigns more overtly, as challenging as that might be to portray given the overall plot line.
There's plenty of ways to emphasize the new generation, and tackling bigotry head on without raising Adam as a viable candidate and especially without engaging in historical revisionism as to his slated role in the series proper.
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bobauthorman · 3 months
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From Angels to Demons
As much as the FNDM complains about the White Fang plotline, I believe it does, meta-wise accomplish its goal; as an introduction to one of RWBY’s most important themes. That theme is how good slowly falls to evil, and how easy it is for a benign force to become no better than what they were fighting against.
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The White Fang eases us into this concept by going in reverse. When we first hear of the WF, they are described as a “Once-peaceful organization”, and that they were disrupting another Faunus protest rally. When we first see the WF in action, they are Roman Torchwick’s mooks. Sun does not see them in a good light, calling them “holier-than-thou creeps”. If it wasn’t for Blake’s testimony in “Black and White” we’d have no indication that the White Fang was meant for anything good. In the Beacon Saga, they were
Then in latter half of the Mistral Arc, we are introduced to the White Fang’s more complex side, in the form of Ilia Amitola. Underneath the brutal facade she puts forward, Ilia’s grieving the deaths of her parents and lashing out at a world she sees as cruel and unfeeling. Furthermore, the Adam Taurus short shows us the slow decline of the WF through Adam’s character progression, and Adam’s final moments in the show he too has been hurt bad. But while Ilia accepts Blake's help and reforms herself, Adam refuses Yang's plea to walk away and soon dies. After that, in the Atlas Saga, we see what kind of society and culture the White Fang were fighting with our own eyes.
In short, we start with the White Fang being 2-dimensional villains, but eventually they are fleshed out, and their motives become more personal. It’s like the “Protagonist Journey to Villain” entry on TV Tropes, but backwards.
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strqyr · 5 months
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one day i will stop thinking about the white fang, but... they really fumbled the whole storyline on the most basic thematic level.
"keep moving forward" is at the core of the show. it's shown by the previous generation stagnating, their ways and methods bringing no noticeable change in the world; only the status quo is held. the new, younger generation is meant to change this—i don't wanna hear you absolution; hope you're ready for a revolution. welcome to the world of new solutions.
this is the basic thread at the core; out with the old, in with the new.
and that's what the white fang had done prior to the very beginning of the story; the leader whose methods made no difference stepped down, and a new leader with a new way of thinking took their place; and their methods were working.
out with the old, in with the new... and young?
now. for the first three volumes, you wouldn't know who these leaders were; no names are given, outside of their methods no descriptions were given, etc., so it's impossible to say what their plans were for the white fang at the time. but i also wouldn't fault anyone for thinking that this new leader was adam all things considered: he had enough influence in the white fang for everyone to wear a grimm mask, a trend he started; he makes it clear that the white fang will listen to him; in the V3 opening he's shown standing in front of the white fang members similarly to how ironwood is standing in front of the atlas troops; he speaks of them as his men; blake calls him her mentor, i.e. he has some authority... the list goes on.
but more importantly, adam / the white fang were originally coerced into working for cinder; adam spoke of revolution ( hope you're ready for a revolution ) and that he wasn't willing to entertain the idea of his men dying for a human cause. so, despite the white fang being portrayed as villains early on, there was a way out of that portrayal by simply making it clear that they were coerced / manipulated, and if not for that, the white fang wouldn't have been anywhere near beacon during the fall.
...went on a bit of tangent there, but either way, it doesn't matter who the new leader was ( other than the new leader being someone younger fits better thematically ); what matters is that instead of moving forward with the new, the white fang... went back to the old, stagnant ways.
and that's. mind-boggling. and frustrating, bc all the pieces are there and they just... threw them away.
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copaganda-clobberfest · 8 months
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WELCOME
TO THE FIRST ROUND OF THE COPAGANDA CLOBBERFEST!
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“You know that trope? That one trope *Everyone* hates? The trope in which a well meaning antagonist to our heroes, one looking out for the good of a certain community, suddenly does something horrible and drastic to make not only them, but the ideology they stand for the most villainous of all?”
NOW IS THE TIME TO BATTLE THEM OUT! Like Ken dolls, fighting for survival! Like your Polly pockets discarded in the closet, we’ll see which of these bitches jumped that slippery slope harder! Whose character did numbers on y’all, and blew up a bunch of grandmas and babies and hospitals with it!
ROUND ONE
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SQUEALER from SHIN SEKAI YORI vs THE WHITE FANG from RWBY
Squealer propaganda (TW for disturbing themes, as well as spoilers for the anime)
“he is a human man who has descended from a long line of humans who were genetically engineered, tortured, studied like literal rodents, selectively bred, and worse by a population of other humans with psychic powers. to show that he is in the wrong, he slaughters the elderly, infirm, children, murders two 14 year olds in particular and uses their child as a living weapon, and lobotomizes his mother in an effort to be recognized as human and treated better than literal garbage.”
White Fang propaganda (TW for Racism, Branding, Slavery, Antisemitism):
“As a Jewish person, I stopped watching RWBY around the beginning of s5 when Adam (the main White Fang antagonist) said that the goal of the White Fang was to replace humans in society. It came SO shortly after those riots where people where chanting "Jews will not replace us" and it made me so sick to my stomach to watch a conspiracy theory like that actually play out on screen that I hard stopped watching a show I'd been highkey obsessed with for years.”
“The evilest moment the writers wrote for their literal “minorities are secretly just wanting power over the whites” scapegoat character involves said character revealing he was not only enslaved but also was branded with a cattle prod over his eye.”
“The White Fang is the only organization fighting for the rights of the Faunus, the in-universe minority group meant to be an allegory for poc, and they’re portrayed as ruthless terrorists who are conveniently less white than the privileged minorities who “redeem” them. A majority of the actual poc who are also Faunus have “allusions” to the Jungle Book, and if you know the Jungle Book’s author and the certain other thing he wrote, you’d Barf at how racist that really is. The white comfort is strong in this Texan show. Also, said terrorists in this show are based off the real-world Black Panther Party, which just makes this whole thing feel like a special on Fox News!”
“The first indigenous-coded character and she’s a terrorist. Like what real life native Americans are to this day dubbed as for simply wanting their rights.”
Always feel free to rb with more propaganda :)
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caramelcuppaccino · 1 year
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—Chapter VIII: The Law of Meat of The White Fang by Jack London.
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doomalade · 8 months
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So tell me again how the formally (officially) enslaved race of people who are now fighting for equal rights, treatment, and ending discrimination are actually based off a conflict of a colonizing force gripping onto land dividing a nation in two leading to nationalism rising in the region which the colonizing force paints as a religious divide in hopes of keeping the broken nation separate?
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Belladonna by Ava Max is Blake’s anthem
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also shocking lack of appreciation for fang’s open vest tits out tummy out s2 look. are you seeing him???
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howlingday · 1 month
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just realized you’re doing history stuff now. recently watched a movie about the Tsavo Man-Eaters. In RWBY, would they basically just be a Faunus serial killing team?
There is a story of a time before the White Fang, when the Faunus were still oppressed and forced into slave labor. Before the Faunus Revolution, the Schnee Dust Company was building the first ever railway across the continent of Anima, using the blood, sweat, and tears of the Faunus to fuel their machines of expansion. Living in these camps were the Mann-Hart Brothers, who would become the most infamous Faunus in history.
Ferrus and Noctus were not actual brothers, but accounts reported them as close as one could be without being of the same blood. Both born and raised free, the two lion-faunus would eventually find their freedom lost with the enforcement of Faunus slavery mandates. Captured by human slavers, they were shaved together, sold together, and worked together under the banner of the Schnee Dust Company. When one of the brothers was being beaten, records don't say which, the other murdered their captor and escaped together. Shortly after, a huntsman was sent to recapture them. He, too, would fall, though his fate was slightly different.
Driven to the brink of starvation by the environmental destruction of the land around them, the brothers cooked and ate the huntsman whom they had killed. This would be the first step down the darkest path in Faunus history. A response team would not find the remains of the huntsman until much later, though the brothers became a higher priority of the Schnee Dust Company after there was no response from the huntsman.
The hunger for human flesh grew as the brothers would return to outposts for the railways construction, killing and dragging guards from their posts, their lavatories, and even from their beds. Soon, rumors spread of more than a hundred men were killed and dragged into the night by these Faunus turned beasts. It wasn't until Nicholas Schnee himself, the founder of the Schnee Dust Company, stepped in with his own team of huntsmen that the killings would stop.
The first of the brothers, Ferrus, was killed after Schnee and his team had managed to wound him, with himself personally delivering the fatal blow later that night from the trees. The second brother, Noctus, had managed to elude a fatal injury until he had cornered Schnee inside a hollowed tree protected by vines. Accounts say that Noctus died chewing through the vines to reach Schnee.
The feral nature of the two brothers had acted as a double-edged sword for both the Schnee Dust Company and the White Fang, with the former instilling harsher restrictions on their slave labor force while the latter would be born from the hearts of those who knew the men before their dark turn, finding both empathy and inspiration in their violence against their captors.
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tumblingxelian · 5 months
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I'm rather suspect of the suggestion that Blake had a particular disdain for how Sienna Khan specifically ran things.
See, Blake was 'mentored' by Adam, which means that her entire view on the White Fang is filtered through his actions. Adam, would kill people for fun and revel in it, orchestrate deaths and blame it on accidents and tried to get Blake in on it.
This context cannot be removed from any of her statements regarding the White Fangs policy decisions.
Further still, she believed that the White Fang, all of it, was on Roman's side. Even though they'd been strong armed into service, the majority were unaware and even when seizing power, Adam needed to assassinate Khan and frame Mistral to get support.
Adding onto that, Blake is not against violence, though I believe her experiences with Adam have caused her to intensely reject such ideals, I don't think this was her default stance. My reason being the fact she went to and served in Sienna's White Fang for years.
She regrets it obviously, but I again need to reiterate her entire experience on that front is filtered through how Adam, her abuser and diabolical mass murderer, behaved.
Had Blake served under Sienna Khan or some other more moderate commander, she may well have found the White Fang's violence proportional or practical.
We cannot say for sure, but I just find the fact she only ever experienced a White Fang post Sienna through the filter of Adam is something we always need to keep in mind.
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jinrou · 3 months
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bobauthorman · 2 years
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Another Problamatic Pedestal
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Honestly, this exchange makes me a little worried about Blake’s unflinching faith in Ruby.
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rennyrose · 5 months
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Couple of reeeeealllly quick studies
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copaganda-clobberfest · 8 months
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White Fang propaganda. how come all the bad faunus have different skin tones handle trauma in less comfortable ways fight harder against their oppressive system and in turn are more oppressed by the system. meanwhile 80-90% of the good ones are virtually all white with a handful of exceptions and also never. do. anything. about their peoples oppression. BUT THATS OK THOUGH the humans aren’t that bad they’re just scared of the black people. I mean they’re scared of the the Faunus they’re scared of……. the oppressors are scared of the minorities surely both sides are equally bad :)
Shoot me. It’d hurt less
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