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kaypeace21 · 5 years

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Lmao you keep convincing yourself that Byler is a thing when there was only like 2 scenes the whole season. You’re gonna drive yourself crazy trying to pick the show apart like that for some fake ship.

Well, they had way more than 2 scenes, but regardless of whether I’m just “crazy” over a “fake ship”. I mean …with how common queer baiting is, I sadly wouldn’t be surprised if I was XD. But…

I’m asking this genuinely (without animosity) … are most people happy with the mileven rep they got in s3?

If you are, that’s great -good for you :) ! As a multi shipper, i thought they were cute before- but I feel like s3 ruined them, almost beyond repair. And almost every one of my mileven shipping followers or mutuals was (justifiably) upset.

-We have El dump Mike, smile and laugh about it, high five Max, not shed a single tear over him, and have a slumber party and laugh and read comics with Max.

Juxtaposed with Will and Mike having a small fight, and Will running away in the rain, sadly reading his comic book, then looking at a photo of the gang and repeatedly calling himself “stupid” 4 times ( for thinking he ever had a chance with Mike), tearing apart his photos, sobbing, and having a mental breakdown,and destroying his safe place.

This is literally our first scene with with Will & El after their fights with Mike… the difference is obvious.

- And when asked if Mike was a good kisser, she just said “I don’t know he’s my 1st boyfriend.” (implying she’s thinking, at least subconsciously, of having other boyfriends ,who are not Mike in the future). But when Mike asks“ I mean, what did you think, really? That we were never gonna get girlfriends? We were just gonna sit in my basement all day and play games for the rest of our lives?“ Will just sadly responds “yeah, I guess I did. I really did!” Unlike, El, Will always saw Mike as his future, his forever.

-And when Mike says “it’s just a break” , Max says “No it’s not!”, and we see El laugh along with Max’s comment. She is not heartbroken at the idea of never getting back together with him, romantically.

They both even laugh and say he ‘talks too much’, behind his back.

- We have El eavesdrop on her ex, which she held no remorse for. And we also overhear Mike say sexist shit about El. And we have multiple female characters call Mike out for treating El as if she’s dumb, and can’t handle herself.It’s like the writers are trying to say the aren’t good for each other?

- When Mike says to El “you’re most important thing to me”in the pool shed. El doesn’t even acknowledge the comment, she just responds by saying that Hopper was right about them spending too much time together. Juxtaposed to Mike saying (in the shed) to Will , that asking him to be his friend was “ the best thing I’ve ever done”, and we have Will cry and almost break away from his possession because of his words.

Like if we’re comparing these 2 scenes . You’re lying if you say the mileven shed confession was more emotional and heartfelt.

- In the last ep, we see El, confront Mike about what he said in the cabin, when fighting with max (“I love her!”). Mike is confused, that was 3 months ago and El says “You talked about your feelings your heart”. Mike just says “Oh! Oh, yeah that.Man, that was so long ago. Um…” and starts to scratch his head. Then he excuses what he said at the cabin, saying it was “in the heat of the moment stuff and we were arguing… I don’t actually remember. What did I say exactly?” But he remembers exactly what he said to Will, almost 10 years ago? AND NO, he’s not pretending to not remember, he is genuinely confused.

And when El kisses him, no joke Mike keeps his eyes open the WHOLE time - and he doesn’t kiss her back . It was awkward… (you’re telling me they didn’t have a better take than this?!)

And right after this kiss , Mike is just confused, they’ve been broken up for 3 months (½ the time-6 months- they dated). He’s just genuinely confused because he probably assumed they transitioned back to great friends that love each other, not that she “loves” him… Mike never once in the season says to El face to face he “loves” her.

She thought Mike was in love with her for 3 months, and didn’t get back together with him- but it’s the moment she leaves that she says she loves him? Maybe she just had too much on her plate after her dad’s death, moving in with the Byers and then having to move away (to actually get back together with Mike and talk about her ‘feelings’ for him)? And then they snuggle noses outside after- cause… they’re back together? The writing and directing were so poor this season, it’s hard to interpret what the writers’ intentions were. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mike is just going to date her in s4 (at long-distance) because he’s in denial about his feelings for Will. Which I’ve talked about (relating to s3) here, here, and here (I also talked about all of Mike’s bi-coding from s1-2).

But let’s just ignore that. Even if byler has 0% chance of happening. Do you think Mileven was portrayed as ‘soulmates’ who love each other and should be ‘endgame’, from what we saw in s3? Cause honestly, I think if they have them end up together … it makes little to no sense, given how they set this up. They ruined mileven’s potential/dynamic from previous seasons on purpose. And if they backtrack now, it’ll look like Mike and El are ending up with people who aren’t good for them romantically.

*gif credit- 1st elmax pic from user jokerous ,2nd elmax pic from user carolchewies, Will gifs from michonnegrimes , byler pic (found on wheheart.com- user dream_daisy, not sure if they also have a Tumblr), those shitty gifs … mine XD

#will byers #byler #byeler

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