#they abuse and manipulate people

[loumands]

#it drives me crazy how we're now moving into 'well we were all manipulated so it's not my fault i harassed victims' narrative #no we weren't i always believed amber ever since she first said she was abused and so did many other reasonable people #if you believed d*pp that is your fault and you need to take a hard look at yourself #amber heard #abuse tw #depp v heard #txt

[proudfreakmetarusonniku]

but also like. guys you don’t need to leave the minecraft youtube community bc one person is bad to clarify. like. shelby is a minecraft youtuber. a lot of her friends are minecraft youtubers. those friends are supportive and as far as we know all believe her. the vast majority of minecraft youtubers are like. fine. this shit is something that Happens because Abusers are Manipulative, going to another hobby will Not shield you from anything and you’re not immoral for liking something bad people also liked. which is. one of the biggest video games ever. like in this situation no one was knowingly harbouring an abuser and it seems everyone was supportive. this is just a case of some people being shit, not anything to do with mcyt. hell, the guy hasn’t been on minecraft in like a year lmao.

i fully understand why the content might be uncomfortable to you guys now but like, please don’t self flagellate and cut yourself off from an entire genre of media because of one guy again. i saw that happen after the dream stuff and a lot of people ended up losing important things because they made rash decisions and felt like they Had to leave. but please. take one deep fucking breath. this has happened before. this has happened so much before, and in ways far worse than this. because abusers, unfortunately, exist. you should not feel guilty for being manipulated by a manipulative abuser, don’t blame yourself. do what you have to, but please, please keep in mind that the majority of minecraft youtube is fine. it is fine to continue engaging with it. it’s fine to be manipulated by an abuser and it’s not your fault. please don’t make rash decisions and end up losing things you care deeply about and being unable to get them back. distance yourself all you want, but please be careful to not do so out of emotional self harm from the guilt. that’s something this fandom encourages far too much- even outside of this- and it’s unhealthy and anyone expecting it of you is cruel.

#mcyt #abuse tw #i guess this is discourse idk but like #this happened two years ago and the amount of people who realised cutting themselves off from All mcyt was self harm and came back #only to have lost a lot of content they created and valued because they wanted to punish themselves for trusting a predator #and like. you’re victim blaming yourself. obviously you are not anywhere near as much a victim as The victim #but being manipulated into supporting abusers is still something that is an action they take to harm others #Being used as a tool to silence others unknowingly is a cruel thing and can be traumatic to go through #its honestly really concerning as someone working on their own emotional self harm to see it. like this isn’t about anyone in specific but #guys. emotionally self harming isn’t helping. you don’t need punishment. breathe and think through things.

[uncanny-tranny]

The first mistake I see people make is assuming there are completely "nonviolent" ways to be transphobic. It seems like some people conceptualize transphobia as being either violent (which is always physical in some way) or nonviolent (which is "simple" emotional, verbal, or psychological abuse)

It seems, also, that people presume that when somebody has "noble" intentions for their transphobia - "I'm trying to save you!" for instance - it is suddenly nonviolent. Consider, though, how a transphobe would "save" a trans person. Would they allow that person to exist unadulterated (including being able to transition), or would they prefer to put them through conversion therapy, or revoke their access to bodily autonomy, or force them to have children, or anything that will prevent them from transition or even identifying as trans or otherwise tying them down with the obligations that prevent transition or identifying as trans?

There is no true "nonviolent" way to be transphobic because being transphobic relies on denying one the ability to autonomy and personhood. Fundamentally, even the transphobes who "want to save us" only do so in their own self-interest to save them from the horror of knowing that more people than they are alive and thriving.

#trans #transgender #lgbt #lgbtq #ftm #mtf #nonbinary #transphobia #transphobia tw #it's just very frustrating when i see people act as though some transphobia is more acceptable than other forms... #...simply because it isn't overt with how much it wants trans people eradicated... #...transphobes will do whatever it takes both for their comfort and also to wipe the world clean of trans people #in some cases it looks like infantilism ('youre so young! poor thing you're being MANIPULATED😭') or... #...it could look like outright cut-and-dry violence (conversion therapy or physical abuse). it all depends on the situation... #...what stays the same is the sheer level of hatred and scorn for trans people and the trans condition... #...and it is in that hatred and scorn that you find that ALL forms of transphobia are united... #...so it is just as important to combat ALL forms of transphobia #abuse #abuse tw #abuse mention tw

[biggestsalmonfan]

Like if you love Scary Marlowe. Reblog to nuke Willy Stampler.

#dungeons and daddies #dndads #dndaddies #scary marlowe #willy stampler #scary is being abused and manipulated by a grown man and people have the nerve to hate her #not very iconic behaviour if you ask me #she’s also like fourteen which means she is literally too young to fully comprehend what her actions are doing #also just let women be angry in media without hating them entirely. it’s not that hard.

[selfhealingmoments]

#manipulation #manipulative #controlling #mind control #disrespect #toxic friends #abusive people #narcissistic abuse #mental abuse #emotional abuse #let them #let it go #letting go #mental growth #mental health #mental strength #self reflection #self improvement #self help #new life #new beginnings #be yourself

[arthursfuckinghat]

I think a lot of people forget why a character like Micah exists - aside from aiding the plot.

Micah is a guide (of sorts) for you to see what a "bad man" really is, to help you understand why Arthur does what he does and to show you that there's actual thought and morals behind his actions.

Micah, on the other hand, kills because he wants to and for stupid reasons. He is a malicious, mocking, hurtful, and sadistic man who cares very little for anybody but himself. He's a misogynist, racist, and frankly irredeemably evil.

As much as Micah was able to manipulate Dutch, Arthur could see right through him. Ultimately causing a rift between Dutch and Arthur, which is exactly what Micah wanted.

Micah was made for you to see the differences between "good" and "bad" people.

Characters like Sean, Lenny, Charles, all "good" people who have done "bad" just like the rest of the gang, including Arthur. I think the reason that people are quick to say that Arthur was "a bad person until he got tb" is because we see his experiences first hand (plus player choices) and not much of the other "good" gang members' "bad" actions. That and his motives and his background is sometimes misunderstood by players.

Arthur is a "good man", "a saint", "an angel", "a blessing" to some and a "bad", "evil", "cruel" man to others.

Playing as Arthur means getting to understand his internal conflicts and his desire to be a better person, something Micah had no intentions of being.

#thank you #the “good” and “bad” are in quotations because one of the lessons this game teaches you is that nobody is fully good or bad #nothing is black and white #also sorry again for my english I'm getting worse istg #mick squeaks #red dead redemption 2 #rdr2 #red dead redemption community #arthur morgan #dutch van der linde #micah bell #the fact you could say something that's a fact like 'dutch manipulated and indoctrinated arthur for most of his life' #and people will still deny it and be all 'bUt dUtCh tAuGhT hiM hOW tO rEaD aNd wRitE' as if the people who raised you cant be abusive too?? #sigh #I love yall really #red dead redemption 2 spoilers #charles smith #sean macguire #lenny summers #mick rants

[family-trauma]

There's nothing really subtle about it, atleast what I'm facing.

#absurd #mentalhealth #mentalhealthawareness #mental wellbeing #toxic #toxic family #toxicity #toxic people #dysfunctional family #emotional trauma #emotional abuse #emotional harassment #emotional blackmail #emotional manipulation #family-trauma

[fromtheseventhhell]

It's crazy that people still uphold show!Sansa as a well-written character and pretend that liking her is the pinnacle of feminism when it would be infinitely more impactful to acknowledge her terrible and misogynistic writing. This is the same character who, while written by two men, was thankful for the abuse she suffered because it allowed her to grow. The same character who we had to be told was smart because the writers were too lazy to develop or show her intelligence. The same character who had to rely heavily on the men surrounding her and ended up accomplishing nothing on her own merit ( and no, thinking that she deserved to be Queen doesn't mean that she earned it). She is not well-written, she is not complex, and she is not a feminist character. Which is fine! If you enjoy her then good on you, but please stop pretending that she's something she isn't just because you feel the need to justify liking her character

#anti got #anti d&d #anti show sansa #anti sansa stans #like literally one of the worst written characters on that show because they tried so hard to make her the most important #while being entirely incompetent and their only method of doing so was to steal from other characters which ruined the plot #the only arguable achievement was defeating LF but even then it's written in the script that she had to go to Bran to explain things #/she rallied the Vale army!/ no she didn't 😭 she wrote a letter to LF and he did everything. instead of showing her arc in the Vale and #her learning about politics to rally them herself they took the quickest route to give her a /badass/ savior scene #which only ended up making her look selfish + power-hungry for putting her brothers' lives at risk for not telling anybody about said lette #and idiotic in the aftermath after relying once again on LF even though he was very obviously manipulating her #/pawn to player/ sounds catchy on paper but without seeing that growth/development it doesn't work #Arya was terribly written but at least we /saw/ her training in a way we never did with Sansa #and people try to apply this same logic to the books and think she's gonna suddenly spring forth as a political mastermind #when that's not how George writes...we see characters develop and make mistakes on page and get actual earned growth #feminism isn't defending the writing of two men who gave her a rape plot not in the books because they thought it was /interesting/ #when the only aspect of that plot they adapted was a woman suffering abuse :/ #and as per usual with stansas their only /evidence/ of her being well-written is accusing you of being misogynistic if you don't like her

[shorthaltsjester]

honestly as someone who has been in various fandoms for a long time now and who also watched campaigns 1 and 2 without really getting into cr fandom it isn’t Shocking but it is annoying how often people will look at the stories that cr tells and make absolute claims about the goodness of characters (goodness here meaning Moral goodness, not I Like This character and think it’s well made goodness, which is a separate post entirely). particularly regarding the gods and pc parents. and honestly like, typically in fandom i get annoyed by people bending over backwards to woobify characters who are active in their choice to be unkind and generally horrible but in the cr fandom it’s tended to be the opposite where like. a character is just. a human being (in the sense of being Average not in the sense of Fantasy Races) and huge swaths of the fandom act like that’s the most unforgivable thing someone can be. and maybe it is, but one of the most powerful things about fiction is that it tends to encourage people to expand their empathy and exercise their ability to forgive. because fictional characters, no matter how much people like to project onto them, tend not to cause anyone harm, so it’s easier to learn how to forgive and accept things you don’t understand without also villainizing them.

this is mostly prompted by the recent 4sd and the fact that matt’s response to what’s up with the dawnfather was a very insistent “He’s not bad!” and also seeing the online reaction to the mention that the matron would punish vax for saving keyleth that has taken the as usual completely bonkers tune that the raven queen (Who When Met With A Brother Asking A God To Kill Him In Favour Of His Sister, Gave Him A Job, and Later Extended His Natural Life To Help Protect The World And Have More Time With His Family And Allowed Him To Visit His Sister On Her Wedding Day) is a horrible evil abusive bitch of a god. like. can we grow up? can we understand the world and fiction that represents the multitudes of experiences found in it in shades of grey? is that too much to ask (i know it is).

but also specifically the like Extremely Adamant way that both matt and laura were like no no no no relvin isn’t Horirble he’s average. he’s not good he’s just. he’s A father, not a good or bad one. and on the surface it’s hilarious that they’re both so like. enthused to point out that he’s Average because typically when people respond to a claim of a characters badness with the level of immediacy they both did it’s a rebuttal of “no, this character is good actually.” but it was just to affirm that relvin did harm imogen, but not because there’s some aspect of his character that is inherently cruel or especially Bad. and like. yeah actually. yeah you should react like that to a claim that this average person who Has hurt someone, the way that nearly every single person has hurt someone in a way they cannot repair, with immediacy to say this person is a Person and thus imperfect and capable of great harm, but that isn’t some all encompassing judgment on their morality or capability to also do good or be fine.

anyway this is kinda just a rant post but also is just me saying i’m very grateful that when surrounded by a fandom that tends to paint characters as Good or Bad and even while using a game that can encourage that with its alignment system, cr has always told stories that see goodness as a persistent choice that might sometimes falter and that can be chosen even after a lifetime of Badness. i can’t remember exactly what the quote was so forgive me if it’s incorrect but when jester is talking to caleb after he claims he’s not a very good person and she says “good people do bad things sometimes. even bad people do good things.” that’s it! that’s one of the most consistent themes across campaigns. and yet.

#on fandom #cr tag #i just. maybe it’s the philosophy major in me but. good grief the shit some of y’all say about morality and then turn around and ignore #what you’ve just said. good grief #lately it’s specifically been the people who support liliana (i too love evil women) and act like she tripped and fell into her current #position. and then turn around and call relvin an abusive devil #like. sorry which one has been manipulating imogen. which one abonded her? #that’s besides the point. my point is. the words good and bad are meaningless. #the good placeism. is this character trying to be better today than they were yesterday #this is the imogen temult problem actually. like yes she Chooses to be good. but that is only a choice because we have Seen her be selfish #and cruel and manipulative. if i had to choose to call imogen good or bad i’d of course choose good. but that undermines so much of #what makes her ‘goodness’ actually compelling. #honestly same with fjord. like his character as a charismatic paladin who fights for Good™ is comtextualised by having seen his journey #like. otherwise he’d be boring. #like. if any cr main character was just Good or just Bad. i promise it would not be as popular as it is #critical role

[ameiniateria]

consistently I'm a little annoyed about the rift between c!Tommy and c!Dream fans in this fandom. like I like your guy too! I think he's great! actually, I think our guys have a lot in common! I'd love to see your take on this really messy, complicated relationship!

oh wait you think c!Dream is a pure evil, completely heartless villain that exists to do nothing but torment c!Tommy, who is of course a sweet innocent uwu baby who did absolutely nothing wrong, and therefore deserves to be murdered twice, imprisoned, isolated, starved, and tortured with no control over his own autonomy (but prison was actually way better than exile, which was the worst thing that ever happened to anyone on the dsmp. obviously. because c!Tommy tried to kill himself. yeah. don't think about c!Dream walking into a wall of lava and burning himself to death multiple times because he was so incredibly desperate for human connection. that was to escape, right? c!Dream couldn't possibly feel real emotions -- that would mean he's a person that -- oh no -- deserves compassion despite the terrible things he did. oh no -- that would make him -- gasp -- a lot like c!Tommy!) and actually he deserved more than that. he was never actually punished. c!Dream always won (citation needed).

also, c!Tommy was a child. do I have to say that again. well, I will anyway. c!Tommy was a child. c!Tommy was a child. c!Tommy was a child.

great.

#discourse #dreblr #c!discduo #to clarify I don't think c!Tommy deserved exile #obviously #no one deserves to be manipulated and abused and bullied #I don't think anyone actually thinks that exile was a good thing #to be fair #it's a really annoying strawman but people keep bringing it up #c!Tommy went through some pretty horrific shit! #but so did c!Dream #there is no law on the dsmp #if you're mad at c!Dream because he blew up L'Manberg -- good for you #in the nicest way possible I do not care #doomsday was not a crime #no one even died #DOOMSDAY WAS NOTHING MORE THAN PROPERTY DAMAGE #what would you call c!Tommy griefing c!George's house again? #sorry for ranting #I'm just tired of not being able to follow like any c!tommy apologist blogs because they have inevitably posted #super rancid takes about c! and cc!dream #why is c!discduo discourse such a mess #why can't we be friends #I don't want to argue with any post directly because I think that's rude #but I wish we could have lore discussions in good faith and actually learn about each others' favorite characters #without accusing each other of being abuse apologists or whatever #I know I came off as kinda mean here #I'm sorry #no one's going to read this anyway #I'm just sensitive and this is frustrating

[harryjpotter-shitpost]

I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate HATE hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate people who try to justify Petunia Dursley or say she was a good or “misguided” person.

#🤢 #she was a horrible abuser #nothing is good about an abuser #I think people got the wrong idea that to abuse someone you need to be physical with them #which is why a lot of these people are defending her #or saying that the word abuser is too harsh to use against her #but the word abuser is literally a word that describes a person who uses the power they have over a person to belittle them #and use it against them #in whatever form #because abuse doesn’t mean physical harassment only #mind you she did that as well #but let me not get into that #ugh I hate this so much #”oh petunia would’ve been nice if she had divorced Vernon” #“Vernon was a bad influence on her” #“she was manipulated by Vernon” #“she actually liked Harry deep down but was scared of Vernon’s reaction” #DO YALL HEAR YOURSELF???? #LITERALLY READ THE FIRST CHAPTER OF THE FIRST BOOK #ITS THERE #VERNON IS THE ONE WHO IS SCARED TO MENTION HARRY OR LILY IN FRONT OF PETUNIA #NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND #mind you I hate that bastard just as much #but I’m just saying #if you’re gonna hate someone hate petunia first #I can’t stand her nor the people who defend her #harry james potter #petunia dursley #harry potter series #harry potter

[uncanny-tranny]

The idea that children are inherently duplicitous, manipulative liars is genuinely doing harm to children and further obfuscates when genuine harm/abuse is occurring because, "what can the adults do, children are demons!"

The idea that children have divine knowledge that transcends adults' own knowledge and they use that knowledge for personal gain is, simply-put, abuse apologism. You are aiding and abetting abusive behaviour from adults, parents/guardians, medical professionals, whomever it might be.

#youth liberation #abuse #abuse tw #abuse apologia #sorry if i talked about this before - if i had then i simply forgor #again i just fucking despise how people talk about children *and* childhood abuse #like how was i manipulating people who were like 30+ at... ages three to thirteen #like it's infantilizing the adults in somebody's life while simultaneously blaming abuse survivors because they did something to deserve it #post that's kind of piggybacking off the last one but also just... #...man i hate in-depth and nuanced topics when many people have them

[lucyshypemaster]

will never forget people saying that fitz is verbally abusive to sophie

#such vile accusation to a fucking CHILD. #are you actually hearing yourself? this is insane #there's a difference between having arguments and manipulating someone for control #people should not be throwing the word “abuse” around so lightly #kotlc #keeper of the lost cities #fitz vacker #sophie foster

[lockandkeyhyena]

some more exploratory sketches. while the story itself focuses on the aftermath of the abuse, i wanted to get down my ideas for the dynamic that occurred during the abuse.

alvin is a very self-pitying character, he uses his low self esteem to manipulate others into doing things for him because they feel sorry for him. he genuinely believes he deserves to get whatever he wants because he had a sad childhood and has convinced himself of his own excuses. he believes what he’s saying in the final image, because to face the truth of his actions would be too much to bear. however he’s more scared of getting caught than at the concept that he’s hurting someone.

he would frequently guilt trip ethan into doing whatever he wanted, followed up by rewarding him with good grades and gifts. ethan really looked up to him and viewed him as one of the very few trustworthy adult figures in his life.

#yeen art #implied csa #abuse cw #manipulation cw #csa ment #abuse ment #grooming ment #anyway. would appreciate people’s thoughts on the characterisation so far! #but after today i won’t be posting anything non palestine related for the next week! #alvin adams #ethan beck #hell story #alvin’s infurno

[super-paper]

afotaro is the elephant's foot of toxic old man yaoi but that's not gonna stop me from memeing on it, y'know, as a coping mechanism.

#my hero academia #mha spoilers #afotaro #all for one #dank mha meems #tw: child abuse #what do you mean afo manipulated kotaro into fucking his wife. hori???? 😭😭😭 #give nao to me you utter loser i wouldn't need some ancient eldritch comic book shill to convince me to make love to my beautiful wife-- #more seriously tho #I've said it before that AFO and Tenko's dynamic is meant to be viewed as a story of abuse told through a lens of fantasy #and these chapters cemented that impression in the best (worst?) possible way bc so many abusers get close to the parents-- #--so they can have unrestricted access to their children + be trusted to be left alone with their children #Hori has really hit the nail on the head so it's disappointing that so many people still downplay Tenko's victimhood #and view this chapter as him ''falling off as a villain'' (wtf) #also the idea of AFO appearing to the Shimura fam wearing different faces/fulfilling different ''roles'' is so fairy tale coded I love it

[selfhealingmoments]

#FACTS #manipulators #no contact #abusive people #mental abuse #love bombing #hoovering #narcissistic personality disorder #toxic friends #toxic relationship #toxic people #people from the past #people pleasing #people pleaser #mirroring #abuse #disrespect #let go #letting go #move on #move forward #self worth #self help #self healing #self reflection #self improvement #victimhood #victim mentality