#they have the same mother!! they're the astronauts and the alien in umberto eco's the three astronauts!! it's them!!

[roxyandelsewhere]

So I’m once again stuck thinking about the biggest underlying horror of spn’s worldbuilding, the one that’s been hiding in plain sight since day one: it’s all people. Hunters hunt people the most dangerous game of all. Maybe some so-called “monsters” being Just Some Guy was at first for budget reasons, but they stuck with it and it’s part of the world, and others are by definition people. You may get bitten and you become a werewolf or a vampire, but you’re still a person. Tom Lastname gets bitten, Tom’s a werewolf now. Still human, still Tom.

I’ve wrote about this as there being different subspecies of humans, and a follow-up to that way of looking at it can be this:

The first humans were Adam and Eve.

Eve is the mother of all monsters.

Therefore, all monsters are the offspring of a human. Their father is irrelevant, everything they are comes from Eve. We’re told/shown Eve is a monster in her own right, and so many theology essays could be written about that. But surely the part of her that’s as human as Adam passed on to her offspring. For genetics purposes let’s say Eve’s mitochondrial DNA is monstrous (hers was the first ever, the one thing God himself didn’t have because as a human he’s a man, and neither did Adam, and it’s a part of her all of her offspring have).

Conclusion: “monsters” are all at least partly human. It’s all people. Including leviathans. Which explains why they all have the ability to be Just Some Guy. Part human part monster. How balanced and united are those parts?

The way monsters come to be a very funny and inconsistent thing. Some were birthed (physically or metaphysically, we’re left to wonder) by Eve as what they are. Dragons, shtriga, leviathans, etc. Others become monsters, not because it was something latent within them but because something happened to them, something that can happen to anybody. But the show tells us those are Eve’s children too. So how does it work? Do vampirism and lycanthropy and others like them function as viruses but have Eve’s mitochondrial DNA? Is the child of Eve the thing that infects each new monster? Or was Eve’s child simply patient zero of these infections, and the first time they bit someone they turned part of that person into the monstrous part of themselves? Is biting the transmissal of an infection or a sort of Midas touch, like “I touch you in this way and now part of you is me”? In that case, are all vampires and werewolves replicas of the first ones? Going back to monsters as the sum of two parts, are all vampires’ monstrous parts the same individual, for example? Is there a vampire Self, or just a human Self living in the same body as something that’s just Vampire?

1x06 Skin can be an answer to this. That ep did many things, and one of them was prove monsters have a Self. Shapeshifters were born shapeshifters, but there’s a Self that is unmistakeably human, which suggests the two are one, a whole from the sum of its parts. Does that meld with the human Self of someone who gets bitten or are the two at war? Is there a human Self that is forever stuck in Purgatory after they die, too?

But here’s the part I’m trying to get at: monsters have souls. I’ve said that grace is blood+God’s Light and therefore humans are angels without that light, but I also think that light isn’t a stark line separating the two. Cas became Godstiel fueled by souls, so on a soul level, humans must have something angel grace has too. And if humans do, guess what: so do monsters. All souls have something akin to grace. Like I’ve said before, for better or worse, Eve’s children have something holy.

God creates Adam and Eve as people. People are partly holy, because all creations have a part of their creator in them. Eve is a monster. Eve births more monsters. All monsters are partly people. All monsters are partly holy.

Hunters hunt things and save people. Hunters say “Monsters, simply put, are supernatural creatures that prey on humans.” Hunters hunt and kill people. Monsters are human and hunters are monsters. They send the humanness and holiness that lives inside monsters to Purgatory. Cas devours that holiness and becomes God.

There can only be one God. The souls go back to Purgatory. Nothing changes.

#another way too long post from yours truly hello #the brainrot is real i'm so sorry but i really am stuck on this concept. it's probably not even my last post on this and i'm sorry ahead #spn #spnmeta #spn meta #mine #people who know more about the bible than me are more qualified to analyze making eve a monster AND the mother of all monsters #but what comes after. what comes as a consequence of that #it's a cw show of course it doesn't make sense. compels me though #dragons and shapeshifters and vampire infectors have the same ancestor!!! bible aside it's impossible for humans not to be children of eve #in the spn universe #they have the same mother!! they're the astronauts and the alien in umberto eco's the three astronauts!! it's them!! #anyways like i said last time i'd be happy thinking just about destiel but i cannot stop thinking about the Other in spn #and monsters and humans saying mama in their languages and realizing they're all saying mama #also apologies for linking the god fucks manifesto again when that bit didn't need a reference #but it's still the piece of writing i'm proudest of #so i'm gonna be annoying with it bc i'm rarely proud of my own writing at all #edit: just wanna add that there were some things in this post that i don't think i articulated well so i made an addition #and it's the post that comes right after this one in the /mine tag #didn't wanna add to this post bc it would have gotten too long