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motherofplatypus · 10 months
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Miraculous Finale Review: Part 1 (Conformation)
I've been holding this one back for a long time, but at last, with Conformation and Recreation aired, season 5 has finally ended. Its been a journey, watching it from the first episode until now, going high and low, and we finally reached the grand finale.
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Who am i kidding?
High and low? Get real. Everything is just going low and low that we met Hades and he asked what were we watching that he met us in his bathroom.
What in the absolute fuck did we just watch? This is just a whole bunch of retcon that makes every single episode for the last 4 seasons redundant, irrelevant, pointless, and stupid. It makes us question if the show is written by a bunch of toddlers who just learned the word "tremendous". Just...dude, you're lucky Disney don't own you, because this show gonna get butchered hard just for the writing skill, let alone the Bustier's kissing scene.
Speaking of Bustier, let's talk about the campaign for mayoral election. So they do have it. I mean, they showed us election in Season 1, but i thought that was the writers making a mistake, like making Chloe having humanity in early seasons. And speaking of Chloe, mind telling us why she becomes the mayor in previous episode? Oooh, that's right, plot convenience.
Second, and i shouldn't be surprised at this point after what happened to Alix and Luka, but holy bolognese they literally take Adrien out of the finale. The main character himself. The character whose name is on the title of the show. The one person who already has the front seat of the whole shenanigans, was written off and out of it. He's completely out out.
Can any of you who have Twitter do me a favor and ask That Guy just what in the absolute butt joke was he thinking for doing this? I know the risk is getting blocked by him, but just imagine getting blocked by a child who somehow got access to the internet.
I mean, that's literally what it is when dealing with That Guy. And I'll let others to make Adrien salt out of it, I have enough salt just from these two episodes.
Then we get to Marinette's dream sequence, where's she's the knight, saving the poor and fragile Princess Adrien. They're not even trying to pretend Adrien isn't a damsel in distress here. She panicked, worried that Adrien is in trouble, and wanted to go to the Agreste Mansion to ask if he's okay.
Hey, remember literally last episode Felix told Marinette Gabe is Monarch? Yeah, neither do the writers.
Anyway, there's the Perfect Alliance thingy, and man was it creepy, in a positive way (surprisingly). The negative way (unsurprisingly) is the inconsistency of it.
Plagg called Alya and did everything to get her attention to no avail because she's basically hypnotized by it, but somehow Mylene could get Rose and Ivan's attention when standing away from them? So can you or can you not get their attention? Go with one or don't go with either of them.
And then the Miraculized. Miraculizer? Whatevs, Walmart Squid Game. Just how did this happen? This is not akumatization, mind you. Akumatization requires the butterfly miraculous to empower a butterfly and send them to someone else. There's no butterfly being sent whatsoever. Unless, of course, another plot convenience that we all oh so familiar with.
And they have multiple miraculous powers. What happened to the whole "One ring, one power" system, huh? Another plot convenience?
More so, they have an innate ability to track down Ladybug and Chat Noir, and boy oh boy, was I smacking my head.
Hey, writers, what happened to the whole "Quantum Mask" rule BS? Thrown out the window seasons ago? Another plot convenience! Who woulda thunk?!
"Oh, but they have the quantum imprint added to them, that's how." Yeah, I ain't buying any of that shit. You have one rule that you make and you can't even stick with it.
And even worse, the whole "Track the heroes but not their civilian identity." Again? Really? How can you bend a rule to one side while bending it to another side? Get a grip, dammit.
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Also also, this plan requires Gabe to akumatize himself and give everyone nightmare, which makes them feel negative emotion. Not gonna lie, it's a smart plan coming from someone who thinks turning a baby into a villain multiple times is a good idea, but the fact you never abuse this to get endless supply of akuma victim is beyond stupid. A familiar kind of stupid, but still, it's stupid.
And the ride continues.
Tomoe turned off all the Alliance rings and everyone became frantic because "Ladybug and Chat Noir kidnapped Adrien and Kagami". Like, folks, they're avatars. They're not real. They all know that the ones on the ring is not real. This is not like how Hoaxer did, because in her case, that's her power; to make everyone believe her BS. So unless everyone's brain cells suddenly went off to a vacation here, i ain't buying any of this. But of course, we're digging again.
And then Bugnoire.
Sigh.
Bug-fucking-noire.
While I must admit that the design looks cute and i love the black and green yoyo, it's nowhere near enough to calm me down.
You're saying we were robbed of having Adrien figuring out HM's identity, the angst of seeing him having to fight his own father and learning the condition of his mother, and the long awaited final fight between LB and CN vs HM, just so that Marinette could steal all the spotlights from Adrien and show how amazing she is, how she is "the best miraculous holder to ever exist" once again? Are they serious?
Well, they did make several episodes emphasizing Chloe as satan incarnate, so yeah, they're serious.
Hey, remember the "You and me against the world" line? Yknow, the one that means they're a team, one that's said at least once every season finale? One that gets the fandom crying in tears? Yeah, neither do the writers.
Dude, seriously, wtf is Adrien's purpose? Last season he's got sidelined so much his entire role is irrelevant. Now he's not even in the finale? What is he? A trophy to be won? A "perfect love interest"? Just delete his character altogether, my lord.
If I want a love interest that's being treated this badly, then I'll just have Marinette X Lila at this point, because they might as well just went all out for it and do all side dirty.
I have never seen any show, even the worst one i could think of, that deliberately take their main character out of the finale. Miraculous is surely something.
All in all, 2/10, and the points all go to the animators and VAs, especially the animators because my lord it is indeed looking beautiful. They throw so many things they've established out the window, I don't even know what this finale even stand on.
Aaaand that's all...is something i wish i could say. But no, we have Recreation. The ride to the abyss is not finished yet, and it only get worse. I'll give you some times to recover first because the next one is a whole essay.
So buckle up. Sit back, relax, and I'll see you in part 2.
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vividaway · 1 year
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I'm gonna be the odd person out and say it: I really like Felix as a character. I think he’s one of the only characters in the show to have a proper introduction that wasn’t pushed out in a single episode. Everything we learn about Felix, to me, feels genuine and realistic to meeting a manipulative person. I also think that's why Felix is hated as much as he is: because you’re not SUPPOSED to like him. Felix as a character is very very dynamic. He lies and he cheats and he does it all with a straight face. He continuously hurts people around him no matter his intentions. and yet, there’s a piece of him that still holds his morals. We saw a glimpse of it in Strike Back, and again in Emotion.  He comes off as a very smart kid, and the writers have hoisted him up to be very ahead of everyone else. Everything he does is done with an intention in mind and it’s something his mother is aware of. They both helped introduce the rings, and the storyline of senti-monsters existing as living human children was made canonical THROUGH him. 
There's still so much we don't know about Felix and his family, though. We know  Amelie is an aristocrat, but through whom? Felix’s father, Colt, was an American billionaire and yet they all lived in London? How come? Both when and why were the Vanily twin rings created, and what’s the significance to THEM? (We have a general understanding of what they’re used for....but what do Amelie and Felix want it so badly?)
A lot of people are discounting a lot of what Felix said in emotion, too, but I personally think it’s very telling. Consider this: Gabriel Agreste has an ‘unconditional love’ for his wife (I see u Gabe, that is NOT love!) and watched her slowly die. Most days are spent isolating himself from everybody but his work staff. Soon, even they started to turn against him. He tried to do everything he could to protect his son, even to the point of abusing him because he was so blindsided by not just his wife’s ailment, but through a true commitment to the “rich and luxurious lifestyle” we see displayed in Emotion. There’s a reputation, AND an expectation that comes with it, and he TRULY believe’s it’s “the right thing” when in actuality, it isn’t. Gabriel has not just become numb to the reality of “being a normal person” but he’s more focused on bringing his wife back to him, and fixing his family. And even after all that? He’s still dying. He knows what he’s going to subject his son to. What he’s asking of Nathalie. He TRULY lost everything to get the miraculous he has. But Felix? Why would Felix say he’s lost everything? We know he lost his father, and we know he’s lost his morals, but a big piece of me is screaming that this is NOT what he meant. So what DID he mean? We know the connection of the Senti-Monsters and his desire to free them. We’re starting to understand that, in his own way, he’s ATTEMPTING to free Adrien and Kagami in the process. But what else could there be? My point in all of this is to say, there are SO MANY QUESTIONS LEFT UNANSWERED. So many that FEEL valuable to the plot of the show. The more we see of Felix, the more I reckon back to Timetagger episode where Gabriel found out he wasn’t going to be HawkMoth anymore. SO many people thought Lila, and even criticized how bad it would be because she was introduced too fast and set up so poorly.........so why NOT Felix? 
He was introduced as an antagonist who wants, not to fulfill his own emotional needs (I.E, Chloe and Lila) but sheerly to get Ladybug and Chat Noir’s miraculous. The lines “I’m after a few jewels myself” could have easily been a red herring and wasn’t mentioning the rings at ALL, especially with the way Felix gave the rings back at the end of said episode. As mentioned previously, Felix’s desire to free Adrien would make sense as to why Felix would take on the role as HawkMoth. Felix wants to make his own wish, and he’s got nothing left to lose. Pairs nicely with Nathalie, doesn’t it? 
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You know, I wonder how Gabriel and Kagami would react if Adrien actually DID manage to break his amok and his Miraculous, erasing both himself and Felix from existence (I'm assuming Lila would only really care about the Miraculous being broken, and most everyone else would just plain be devastated).
Assuming that Ladybug didn't just murder everyone immediately with her powers going out of control, I've got some guesses.
Like, Kagami would be devastated, obviously. But I think that she'd probably wait to start on the grieving process until Lila and Gabriel were dead. Probably anyway? I'm not sure the exact way and thought process she'd have behind blaming Lila and Gabriel for Felix's and Adrien's deaths. I mean, they wouldn't have killed the two of them directly, but their actions would undeniably have led to Adrien taking the step he did.
Come to think of it, I'm not sure how she'd view Adrien's suicidal action, either. Like intellectually I don't think she'd blame him for Felix's death - he'd have been the cause, but it's not like he knew that what he was doing would kill him, and Adrien did it specifically while killing himself anyway - but emotionally I think part of her WOULD be angry at him. And it would make for some very mixed emotions that she'd know would be unfair, because really, Adrien's the one who's suffered the most throughout this.
I'd imagine that everyone else mourning Adrien, while Felix would only really be mourned by her and his mother, and maybe Chloe, would also give her quite the mix of emotions.
And then factoring in that she knows that the whole situation Adrien was in was partly due to Felix's actions, as well as inaction due to not wanting to take some better options in order to maintain his own pride...
She'd have a lot of complexity to work through. After she finished beating up and probably murdering Lila and Gabriel, anyway.
As for Gabriel, I'm just wondering whether he'd show regret and remorse for what he put Adrien through after his death. I mean, again, assuming he actually survived Marinette's and Kagami's wrath. The wrath of everyone who cared about Adrien, really (which is a lot of people). He kept on telling himself that this was ultimately gonna be good for Adrien, that it'd all be worth it... but Adrien was willing to kill himself to get away from him. I'm wondering whether that might be enough to finally get through to Gabriel that he fucked up, and lost the one other person he cared about, through his own actions. That it was his own fault. Whether he'd be wracked with guilt, or whether he'd still be in denial, believing that what he was doing was justified. Whether he'd look back at everything he put his son through, all the violation, all the control, all the misery, and finally, fully regret what he did.
adrien dying and taking felix with him would definitely lead to a kagami and marinette team up again. part of kagami's revenge would be for felix but also for adrien; yes part of her would be mad at him for killing himself and not getting help elsewhere, for breaking everybody's hearts. but like, also she'd know he wasn't to blame at all for being a hero. and yeah, she'd both be cut up over felix and mad at him for lending a hand to the whole tragedy in general. mixed emotions galore!
(omg, that part about everyone mourning adrien and only amelie, kagami, and maybe chloe mourning felix--that hit hard dude 😭 poor felix lol he deserves that)
and "adrien being willing to kill himself to get away from [gabe]" oof OOF that hurts too even though it's true. you just have a way of analyzing things that really point out how tragic the characters' situations are :D in regards to all of gabriel's guilt and shame...who's to say he's not already deeply feeling all of that? you're on the right train of thought though! i'm very glad you're beginning to examine gabe's inner demons and looking at how he would handle all of this :DDDDD
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whenimgoodandready · 2 years
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How smart was Marinette to have used the Mouse Miraculous during her battle with Kwamibuster to give each of her tiny clones the other miraculouses so she won’t fall ill since wearing too many causes major side effects. Monarch found this out the hard way! :P. Course, I always thought it was cuz she was younger and had more stability that’s why, so I’d like to think that too. Dear Mullo was safe with Fu then used carefully by Marinette and as guessed by fans, given to Mylene (who fits her mousy personality) who became Polymouse and helped save the day with her love for the environment (“Mega Leech”). Now, they’re stuck with the rest of the Kwamies with psycho Gabe. What’s he gonna do with them!? Make copies of himself!? Wait! That’s what happened last time. Or was that the Fox Miraculous?…….Yeah, that was the fox one. So now what!? Let’s find out:
*Multiplication-Monarch said he would attack “restlessly” until Ladybug and Cat Noir surrender their miraculouses……..Humph, look at that! It’s been months and his statement was just as bullsh*t as Marinette claiming she doesn’t love Adrien anymore. Again! You mean like when she said that in the New York special? Or when dealing with Mr.Pigeon for the 72th time!? Sure Marinette 🙄. Are Monarch and her shoveling the same sh*t pile? We’ll circle back on Monarchs words later, but maybe Marinette is “serious” this time. After all, it was her blind love to Adrien that she mistook Felix for him which had Felix double cross her and steal almost all the miraculouses to give to Gabe! Villain has a point where Monarch did say love was their downfall. Keep that in mind.
Adrien did the impossible, he finally told Gabe he doesn’t wanna model anymore! (party music plays)🎉👏👏👏🎉He finally listened to Marinettes words and went OOC to stick it to Felix that he can! (Shadow Moths Final Attack:Part 1-“Risk”). And guess what!? Gabe was okay with it!? (music screeches to a stop). Yeah! Just like that! He was like, “Okay, whatever, enjoy your freedom”. You mean to tell me all that built up resentment and annoyance of modeling this whole entire time in the show like the Ladybug and Cat Noir music video with him as Cat (“Frightningale”), the voice acting for the movie as Cat (“Animaestro”) and the “cologne” ad he was tricked into doing (“Mega Leech”) and Adrien now thinks it was just that simple!? Sounds too simple if you ask me. But, he’s a free man now and can spend the days relaxing even if the “threat of Paris” is at large! Although the crime fighting duo were keeping a lookout at his next “attack” all was good as gold as the sun was shining, kids were playing video games, doing yoga to chill and positivity was blooming.
Yup! Everyone in Paris lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when Ikari Gozen attacked. Ok! Back to the ushe, the dynamic duo stop her, but this time without Ryuko and then-HOLD UP! Did she just make copies of herself!? Using the Mouse Miraculous!? Don! Don! Don! WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!? WAIT! SHE DOESN’T HAVE THE MOUSE MIRACULOUS TO DO THAT!?😳 Don! Don! Don! WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!? Again! I. Am. So. Confused.
To clarify heres the answers to everything:Felix is hiding (well, this’ll make the Lilix (or was it Felila) shippers happy since both have the same idea of being in the dark) and his mom was covering for him when the heroes flew over to London to confront him on his betrayal. This is a gray area on their situation; On one hand, Felix did wrong by giving nearly all the miraculous to Gabe and his mom lying to the heroes, but on the other hand, we still don’t know if he did it for the right reasons to keep the concept of sentimonsters safe (like if he and Adrien are rumored to be so) and if his mom was just being either protective or oblivious about the situation. Is Felix even evil? Is he neutral? What’s he gonna do with the Peacock Miraculous!? Is he gonna tell Adrien about Gabe being Monarch!? Alix will be absent for a long time as she’s spending all her time time traveling and making sure no harm happens in the future. Phew! Least she’ll be safe from Monarch. Her dad even explained it so her friends won’t have to worry. Safe travels Bunnyx! (salutes). Guess there’s no miraculous rescue each ep cuz seriously, how the f**k are the duo gonna get every single one back if Monarch stays hidden!? Kagamies mother, Tomoe, is working with Gabe/Monarch! Don! Don! Don! That’s what happened! She’s the new Nathalie. Did Tomoe knew this whole time Gabe was the villain? Was she evil all along!? What does she get out of this!? Speaking of being the new Nat, she came back to check up on Adrien in secret. How ‘bout you just tell the poor kid his dads a psycho terrorist and save him!? It’s the reverse love square we’ve been dying for! Or not. We all know the routine:Marinette says she’s moving on from Adrien, her heart tells her no, Adrien grows closer to Marinette, but doesn’t realize it’s love, he continues to chase Ladybug, Blah! Blah! Blah! UGH! F**K THIS SH*T! I’m not getting into this again! It’s the rings! Those rings we saw in the promo pics for the season! Gabe turned the miraculouses into rings! Now he’s made this Siri-like rings, using either Adrien or Lila holograms, with Tomoe (who tested them out as Ikari Gozen) to sell to people so they’ll get akumatized and have the powers of which ever miraculous Monarch transmits to them! Don! Don! Don! Holy Sh*t! PROTEST THOSE RINGS! PROTEST THOSE RINGS! SOMEBODY GET MYLENE ON THIS! PROTEST THOSE RINGS! You know, eventually in the long run of the season, Marinette/Ladybug is gonna notice that’s how Monarch is using his new powers, so now comes the slow moving realization. Okay, we’ll see how many episodes that takes (waits nonchalantly).
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bugababe · 3 years
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gabriel, after calling adrien into his office: son, it pains me to say this, but you must know...
adrien: 👀
gabriel: you are adopted.
adrien:
adrien:
gabriel: just kidding, you're actually a sentimonster.
gabriel: thought I'd lighten the ol' mood first
gabriel: though, technically, I guess, that actually still makes you adopted
adrien:
gabriel: you're a sentimonster AND you're adopted
gabriel: great talk. Now Leave
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space--butterflies · 3 years
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This one’s kinda long so it’s under a cut! ♥
3. What is that one scene that you’ve always wanted to write but can’t be arsed to write all of the set-up and context it would need? (consider this permission to write it and/or share it anyway)
Hmmmmmmmm, honestly? I don’t think I’ve had that issue yet? Sure there are scenes that I have written but have cut because I didn’t need them anymore or just didn’t like how it turned out, but I haven’t not written a scene because I didn’t want to do the setup and context for it.
18. Do any of your stories have alternative versions? (plotlines that you abandoned, AUs of your own work, different characterisations?) Tell us about them.
Man, Peev and Beyond have so many different versions and dropped plot lines;
There’s a dropped plot line from Beyond where Cass and Eugene have to pretend to be Varian’s parents for some reason.
There’s another scrapped plotline that focused on the boys, but I recycled that one for Peev.
I was gonna have Varian be the reincarnation of Demanitus instead of going with Moonboy, I even started to set it up by having Vigor become attached to him right away because he recognized him.
In my Original draft for The House of Yesterday’s Tomorrow arc, I was gonna have Varian go check on Ruddiger only to discover the tree blocking their path had been cut, which would then result in Mathews knocking him out and leaving him out in the storm only to be found by Eugene and Lance when they go to see what’s taking him so long. He’d then have a nasty case of pneumonia which forced the gang to stay longer than they intended and Zhan TIri would try and manipulate him in his fevered state to take the Moonstone, but I couldn’t figure out how to end the arc with that in mind so I dropped it and stuck with Canon But Varian is there.
I was gonna do the Gothel Twist. I had it written out. More than once! I was gonna go with canon and have Cass be Gothel’s daughter, and then later I was this 👌 close to revealing that Eden was her daughter instead but chickened out. THat’s what my Tale of Two Sisters rewrite was gonna reveal.
I was gonna have Quirin die in the amber.
I made an entire AU where Eden takes Cass with her and she and Var grow up as brother and sister and am very much thinking of rewriting everything with this au in mind once I’m done with the current version. That’s all. For now. Trust me I will think of more I promise.
23. What’s the story idea you’ve had in your head for the longest?
I have two I came up with around the same time but uuuh;
Fairy Dance arc from SAO rewrite where the pervy guy has Kirito in a coma still to black mail Asuna into marrying him, but Asuna becomes a kick-ass fairy knight to save prince kitty toe from the bad mad and she gets to stab a pervet.
and also a Frozen/ML AU thing where Adrien and Felix are Anna and Elsa respectively and Marinette and Luka share the role of Kristoff and Gabe’s the bad guy. I actually wrote that one last year before I started Beyond but I’m too shy to post it and would probably end up rewriting it if I were gonna.
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wildpokemon · 4 years
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ML Season 3 Rewatch: Ladybug
Production No. 324
Okay, last episode of the regular season - only the two part finale left after this!! I actually can’t believe how close to the end we are lol. I still feel like I JUST watched those episodes. This episode however, feels like a long time ago lol. I was on vacation in England when this one came out and really only watched it the one time, so I am very ready to watch it again within the context of everything else. This episode had all the plot if I remember correctly, and I’m sure everything is gonna hit so much harder after seeing everything that comes before it. I haven’t even seen this since Chat Blanc and Felix came out, so this should be fun!!
theme song ends, and BAM, I’m in tears
HE’S. MAKING. HER. THE. LUCKY. CHARM.
Adrien makes it for her, is happy about it, but then Plagg is mildly discouraging bc it’s a gift that isn’t cheese (🙄), and so Adrien wants a second opinion... So, he asks.. his father.
he’s gushing about her :))))
and Gabriel is a dick about it of course
I wonder now that we know Gabe was previously aware of the birthday party if it'll make watching Befana any different now? Like, did he pick Marinette’s grandma specifically to akumatize or something? (i sorta doubt it, but I don’t remember the episode too well)
i die for the lucky charms holy sheet
ooooooo i never noticed that shot of Lila staring down at Marinette’s birthday party before. that’s new to this episode right?? i don’t remember Lila showing up in Befana at all. that’s siiiiick, good set up for the rest of this ep
Lila is back on her bullshit. And by bullshit, I mean that goddamn bench she’s always sitting on when she gossips with the forty-year old man
wait..... i’m confused about timelines now. after we see Lila looking down at the birthday party, it cuts to her on the bench and Gabe is all mad about Marinette’s “influence” on Adrien. But why is he SUDDENLY mad?? the way the episode is set up makes it imply that this gabe/lila conversation happened soon after the birthday party. but that makes no sense, since lila and gabe don’t make their deal until Chameleon, which was the definitive first episode of this season, sooo it doesn’t line up. I mean, there’s a slightly different color filter used in the bench talking scene that I think is supposed to imply it’s the present, and NOT soon after the birthday party. But now I’m just confused as to why gabe is suddenly mad about Marinette again.
oh, hm, okay. so then it flashes back to Lila threatening Marinette, and then Lila doing the shit with the tests. Both those moments have like a vignette type filter on them, so even her planting the test shit is in the past. okay okay, bench scene takes place in the present. just, dont know why Gabe suddenly all worried about Marinette again. maybe hes just miffed that Lila was supposed to unknowingly be helping him akumatize Marinette and it’s taking a while idk
“You work too hard sir” Nathalie says immediately after Gabe gets done striking a deal with a fourteen year old that involves expelling another fourteen year old girl, who happens to be one of his sons best friends. And they call that “work.” Ya know, just another day at the Hawkmoth Inc. Offices. Tomorrow will be coffin cleaning day smh
“I’m good friends with the best manga publisher in Japan.” fuck you Lila. You don’t have any friends at all, let alone good friends
did Miss Bustier really have to expose Marinette in front of the whole class
Alya immediately standing up for Marinette :))))
Lila half a second later, pretending to help >:((
aaand the only thing Lila IS actually good at? Egging Marinette on so that she reacts too harshly and makes herself look bad
fuck lila
lololol Miss Bustier gives NO fucks, just telling everyone Lila got the worst grade
(surely on purpose ofc)
Aaaaadrieeeen :)))) my boy, YES, defend her!!!
this BITCH and her GODDAMN fake disability/injury lies!!!! aaaaaaahhhh
(also, who tf would EVER believe Marinette would push someone down the stairs? lmao)
ooooooh boy, i’m getting heated lol
the animation is really good though, the shots so far are great, and this scene rn, Marinette is clench fisted in anger and you can see her ribs move as she inhales and exhales. it’s subtle since it’s her parents talking, but a very nice touch
let’s take a tally of reactions of everyone who sees the “proof” that Marinette stole Lila’s fox necklace: Tom and Sabine: shocked/surprised (but maybe unsure), Alya: mainly surprise and disbelief it looks to me, Alix: brows hardened, she looks angry tbh, Mylene: confused and worried, Adrien: the saddest eyes i’ve possibly ever seen. he low key looks distraught, bc he knowwws
and he does defend her too of course. or tries to before Damocles interrupts him
Nathalie as Catalyst got them Kylie Jenner lip fillers
tbh.... Scarlet Moth pretty ugly lmaoo. I don’t really like the all red look on him
Chloe defending Sabrina from the butterflies is almost cute
Princess Justice and Verity Queen, goddamn. what great names
wish we could have seen Adrien’s reactions to seeing them all get akumatized again, and Marinette too
damn, she immediately goes to take of her earrings. just wow. the danger is too real lmao
aaaaaaand Nathalie passes out. of course she does lol
should it annoy me how quickly HM drops his transformation to help a fainting Nathalie, when two episodes ago he was knocking his son around like a punching bag? cause uhh, I’m annoyed
aaaah this is where this episode suffers from only being 20 minutes. it jumps right from the butterflies leaving, to Marinette back in her room with Tikki. We got no Adrien reaction to anything, no reaction from anyone tbh. bummer
Alya is such a good friend, wow i love her
also, you kNOW she thinks Lila having that stupid fake fox necklace is shady af
awww, Marinette called her “Al” I’ve never heard her say that before. not many people in the show have nicknames lol
Marinette’s apron has a version of her signature flowers on it :)
“the wounds on the miraculous become your wounds as well” fascinatinggg
and him saying “never at that cost again,” with the dramatic pan to the family portrait with Emilie in it?? SO good. that (and Adrien’s comment in Feast about the dizzy spells) is confirmation enough for me that Emilie’s coma is indeed from wearing the Peacock Miraculous (hi, Kim from two days later here. i wrote this one before that Nathalie as seen by Gabriel Miraculous Secrets episode, where he mentions that Emilie DID fall into a coma from the Peacock Miraculous. So, hashtag confirmed my dudes)
ooo Alya is doin some sleuthing. I love her
Gabriel being asleep while sitting straight up, head barely drooping at all, is just further proof that he’s insane
why does Nathalie have to buy one of those stupid tourist Eiffel tower key chains lmao. she could have picked  a n y t h i n g as the object, and she goes out and buys on of those lol, like why
something super heroes and super villains have in common? they love the sewers lol
akjdaldksa Duusuu is so fun
Duusuu has a fucked up idea of how romance works lmao
she really is dying for her boss
I gotta say though, Mayura’s movements and everything to create Sentibug is really cool
Adrien overhears Alya trying to help Marinette, starts to walk to confront Lila, but then gets the alert about Ladybug fighting Mayura, and so he leaves but wow it makes me happy that he wanted to help her lol (he even says a scene later to Plagg that he is gonna help her, Ladybug just needs him more immediately)
also, Mayura’s fake evil laugh is funny. she knows how to play it up
man i really wanna know why everyone thinks HM just suddenly unakumatized them all. i need to know how that discussion went down. shouldn’t LB and CN be curious too??? i guess it’d be hard to talk about it together since they can’t admit they were in the room it happened in - but still, they could talk to Tikki and Plagg respectively. i wanna hear that talk so baddd
hahaha she covers herself in flour to get away from her dad for a minute and it doesnt even work lmao
:((( Chat’s so sad when he thinks Ladybug is hurt. “there’s something wrong, we’re supposed to be nearly invulnerable.” his voice does a little crack and i’m sad
really interesting parallel to Felix, in how Ladybug doesn’t believe Felix is Adrien pretty quickly, but Chat is more easily convinced. Then again, Felix as Adrien was a lot more out of character than Sentibug was.
oooooooop and now Mayura knows that Ladybug DOESN’T love Chat
also, i really like that Chat’s first reaction is to be confused, and ask what happened to the other boy (unlike *cough* Marinette in Chat Blanc *cough* i know i know it was probably a timing/pacing thing dw)
this is cruel :( poor Chat aaaaahh he looks so genuinely happy to be hearing his feelings be returned :(((
lips touched!! he kissed Sentibug oh my god
and real Ladybug shows up, and now Chat looks so devastated that it wasn’t real oh godddd
ngl though, the ~listen to your heart~  No! listen to your brain!!, is pretty funny lol
Sentibug sounds so weird lol. She’s more soft spoken
poor Chat, keeps clinging to it being real
she called him kitty :)
“I love you just the way you are My Lady” :))))
Senti-charm lol
heeyy, this time it’s a ridiculously huge gun instead of the Final Fantasy sword lmao
alakjdaljh i love that the fork gives Chat the absolute confirmation she’s Ladybug lmao. i love the lucky charms
Gabe wakes up from his stress nap, sees Nathalie is gone, and his first thought is to check the news... their dynamic is so weird and fucked up lmao
WHY, why did they have to do this whole thing where sentimonsters can be almost human and in control of themselves etc. it’s a cool concept, and it’d be sort of interesting to find out later that like, The Gorilla or someone has been one the whole time (unlikely though I think), but gOD i HATE sentimonster adrien theory. i hate it bc there’s nothing to refute it, and it just makes me feel awful lol. honestly, thinking about it in canon actually puts a pit in my stomach
Cat Noir and His Ladybugs lol
Chat gets so maaaaad when Mayura kills Sentibug
aaaaahhh, and then Gabe/HM being like “getting sentimental about a sentimonster” all sarcastically. like if Adrien WAS a sentimonster, then that would make sense why Gabe doesn’t give a shit about him, cause he thinks he isn’t real or w/e. goddamnit i hate this theory so much, makes me feel yucky
Chat calling Hawkmoth grandpa alkdjalsdhalsd
“regular kids. so fragile, so easy to break” 😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
FUCK YOOOUUU
hawkmoth said yeet
the way Ladybug is holding/cradling Chat rn mirrors the way he was holding Sentibug earlier
they’re so sweeeeet together oh my god
“ladybug doesn’t sound half as cool” :((( this hits so hard post Chat Blanc. he doesn’t really need saving here, and they both know it. But she’ll save him every time so she never has to see him hurt again. i cry
lol Chat referred to Sentibug as “our Bugette” lol that’s cute
it IS cruel, Ladybug!! using the Peacock Miraculous to create real beings, control them, and then destroy them is CRUEL!! (so @ thomas astruc pls let adrien be a real boy thx)
“you disobeyed me again nathalie” alkdjaljdhasdjs why is this funny to me. why is it funny to hear nathalie be scolded the same way he scolds Adrien
she coughed so hard her glasses fell off lol
FUCK LILA
Adrien is all polite about asking to be left alone, but not one second after everyone leaves, he’s scowling
i love him
he’s. so. good.
“you hurt my friend Marinette, and that’s not okay.” NO. IT. IS. NOT. YES.
daaaang Nathalie overheard
A DISEASE THAT MAKES HER LIE//????? AND DAMOCLES IS EATING THIS SHIT??? HE’S CRYING??? IM SO MAD AAAAAHHHHHH
alkdjaldhadjhajh Marinette’s face when she sees the photoshoot of Adrien with Lila is so funny.
can’t wait until marinette finds out he suffered through that for her
Ooooh wow. That was a lot lol. This episode was so so good, so much happening and it all felt really high stakes. But now I’m gonna scour the internet for canon baby photos of Adrien to prove he’s not a sentimonster. Hey, he was longtime childhood friends with Chloe, right? And the Agreste’s have only had the Peacock and Butterfly Miraculouses for about a little over a year? After their trip to Tibet?? Soooooooo, if Chloe was friends with Adrien before his parents got the Miraculouses, then he can’t be a sentimonster. There case closed, I can sleep tonight.
(i know a lot of that isn’t proven yet in canon. but let me enjoy my peace lol)
Anyway, on to the finale next!! Can’t wait!
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minimenace · 4 years
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Felix live thoughts:
i still don’t get why gabriel, who is known to wear his ring, is polishing both his and emilie’s rings
nathalie smiling at gabe aww
WAIT DOES ADRIEN SHIP NATHALIE AND GABE???
WAVE WAVE
its been a year???
cat song from chat blanc
sitting together, bonding time??
gabriel: i need to tell adrien im hawk moth and its for the greater good - the greatest good id ever get - emilie’s ass
adrien: oh dad i know
gabe: wHAT??
adrien: yeah...you and nathalie  �� im cool
gabe: YOU FUCKER DONT DISGRACE YOUR MOTHER LIKE THAT
not that adrien knows his mom is even alive smh
gabe, you can’t expect your son to be all hopeful when there’s nothing he knows of to be hopeful for
gabe: bitch get ready cousin you is coming
1 year since emilie ‘went for cigarettes’
adrien: healing  😌
gabe: 
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marinette’s first act as class president: class meeting!!!! (plus luka and kagami) we need to cure adrien of his depression
adrien is hallucinating his mom isn’t he
wait it’s his mom’s twin isn’t it
IT IS
amelie and emilie huh
gabe is not “NO get out”
grouch kitten time!!!
felix getting hugged: bitch...fine ok
so felix and adrien’s favorite game as kids was Parent Confusion huh
gabe: how dare you shake my hand
felix: how dare you not shake my hand
so gabemilie wedding rings were from her family
emilie’s maiden name was NOT agreste...bitch no im DYING with this headcanon
felix whats to know what the FUCK is up with kyle gabriel
marinette...no...do not tell your crush you’re in love with him when you’re trying to console him about his missing mom
ok slightly better
bitch you’re still recording
is this gonna be another copycat where marinette tries to get the phone to delete the message
wait this is LITERALLY another copycat
YES TIKKI GET ANGRY
“I’m really sorry I didn’t come to your dad’s funeral” OH BITCH NOW I GET WHY HE HATES YOU
explains why they’re wearing black
felix with bryce’s voice hits bad
he needs kousei arima...max mittelman...pLAGG
“you do everything your dad tells you to” “oh well yeah you know”
do do do do-dUUHN
adrien and felix used to challenge each other in chess...nerds
plagg: “you’re cousin is being sus BUT HE TOUCHED MY CHEESE THAT UNFORGIVABLE”
plagg: *points out adrien’s mother is* adrien: *gets sad* plagg: oh baby fuck im so sorry
felix i know adrien is complete dumbass but you cannot call him an idiot!!!
wait is felix gonna find out marinette is ladybug because she was recording for so long
wAIT IS FELIX GONNA TRY TO SET UP MARINETTE AND ADRIEN BY DRESSING UP AS ADRIEN AND SEDUCING LADYBUG SINCE MARINETTE IS SUPPOSEDLY LADYBUG
probably not lol
felix fuck you im the only one allowed to make fun of nino’s dudebro accent
felix bby youre not building a good case for yourself by making fun of my babies
also bryce is trying to do a lower voice and he just sounds dudebro
wait is felix gonna rip chloe a new one
YES felix and chloe knew each other
the one time chloe is being genuinely nice for no discernable reason and felix is like “fucker”
well with the season finale we know it doesn’t matter
...annoyinG
FUCK
marinette time bitch lets see what happens im scared
ok thats mean
the writers are trying very hard to make me hate felix but joke’s on them, i’ll never hate anyone on this show
no joke i used to hate theo and call him a pedo and now i’m like “aww poor baby”
wait where is theo i havent seen him around
ok he deleted the videos so immmmmmmmmm hmmm
felix getting ready to cause havoc
ok luka is kind of a joke
*strums guitar* im supportive. this is my personality.
i cant really be mad about felix sending that mean message but adrien deserves to be a feral kitty
fel-ien: i renounce all my friends y’alllll SUCK
me: ...
calls out chloe specifically: NO THATS MEAN but true
marinette: there’s no way adrien can be mean he’s an absolute...aNGEL (how does that meme go)
i mean she has a point because he’d never call chloe out like tHAT
lila spying for gabe seems to be a good thing but im concerned about what gabe will be doing with this video
oh ok they knew it was felix
nathalie: so uh...sir...now’s a good time to um...akumatize some vulnerable kids...
gabe: ok amelie lets see how you feel about THIS akuma attack
gabe getting people to go chase down your “son” is still going to inevitably hurt your son
im fairly certain that max and kim know marinette is ladybug at this point 
*announcer voice* and in the confusion, reflekta, lady wifi, and princess fragrance were deakumatized because they couldn’t figure out who to be mad at
WHICH ONE OF YOU IS THE FAKE ADRIEN they all shout. “idk what do you think” says adrien 1 to adrien 2
adrien: *starts acting all mean*
punishers: IT MUST BE HIM
nathalie: STOP IT ADRIEN
punishers: wait who
adrien: muwahauwah i wonder who I could BE AJAHAHAHA
felix: bro why the fuck are you covering for me
nathalie get your grove on
hawkie: bitches Y’ALL THAT FUCK ASS IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU
felix: ha...no?
felix: oh well...KONO FELIX DA- LET’S FIGHT
istg if felix has his own miraculous
ladybug saves fel-ien
fel-ien: i love you
activates “smooch”
marinette: *has flashbacks to spook-drien* uhhh no
felix you’re being very menacing about this kiss
ok... i feel like marinette going “NO MEANS FUCKING NO” is a brownie points moment just the entire structure of the scene...also she has no reason to suspect adrien is not adrien, so the punching is just...intensely weird to me
this also feels like astruc trying to be like “FELIX IS THE OPPOSITE OF ADRIEN WHO IS A PERFECT GENTLEMAN AND RESPECTS WOMEN AND THEIR BOUNDARIES” when like um i dunno, adrien ALSO tries to kiss women (ladybug) without their consent but those moments are always treated as comedy so you’re not being very slick with this scene
side note; idk why when a male morally dark end character gets into a fight or something with a girl very one goes “THAT’S SEXIST”, like basically what you’re saying is “you can’t hit girls” which in itself IS sexist. everyone can be punched. don’t fucking hold back.
side note; you shouldn’t punch ANYONE
“You’re not Adrien, he would never be so pushy!” *looks at chat noir* uhhh....
i mean good deduction skills tho? i still think it’s pretty hastily and badly written
adrien is fucking OUTING his cousin lmao
i feel like there was pre-existing tension
felix: is actually ashamed for once
FELIX VISION
lb: great!!! now break the tablet felix: bitch this is some good fucking money i aint breaking it
felix and lila are the moth gang
hawk moth: why felix: uncle give me your fucking jewelry
felix: manipulate the situation...and profit
that has got to be the GREATEST defeat ever...truly lucky
felix looks like he thinks that he’s going to jail
adrien: dude wtf amelie: ...his dad- felix: no dude that was pretty fucked up, ill own up to it
“i hope to become a better person and see you again soon!” this was one concentrated bad incident but yeah ok
FELIX GOING FOR THE HUG
the tone is making me think this is supposed to be inauthentic and he doesn’t mean it but im hoping this isn’t the case.
but if it is genuine, it sounds like there’s a tacked on “learn to be better- from you” which like, yeah adrien is better than felix we get it but you don’t need to emphasis adrien as a model dude when he’s like tier 1 good guy. he’s decent. lmao.
wait felix has always been wearing a ring i didn’t notice
awww felix and gabriel made up.
wait
what even happened between them to begin with.
huh
adrien: aw sHIT CUZ WAIT gabe: nO DAVIC
adrien: if you need to talk in here felix: thanks
astruc: see he’s morally superior
did felix just gift adrien some expensive cheese lmao
felix: hey i feel bad, i replaced your cheese
adrien : *records message to thank everyone and says “i love you”* marinette: *obsessively plays back the “i love you”*
marinette: ill take what i can get
FELIX DID YOU UST FUCKING STEAL THIS MAN’S WEDDING RING I MEAN I KNOW HES MORALLY QUESTIONABLE IF NOT DESPICABLE BUT YOU’RE NOT MUCH BETTER YOU KNOW
so felix really is a magician huh
i feel like him and jean duparc would get along
oh so there’s history behind the rings?
“where it belongs” everyone hates gabe huh. wuh happened
gabe why are you taking your wife’s ring
it’s like he needs that thing to function
the ring: why you so obsessed with me
is it like an anti-nathalie charm or something
gabe: bitch get it together yOU’RE MARRIED, YOU’RE WIFE IS DOWNSTAIRS
the beef is, probably like all things, related to the miraculous
HAPPY END OF THE SEASON!!!!!!
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j-esbian · 6 years
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as promised:
i’m back with a next to normal au........
first, a few things:
i’m calling this an au because like the story already exists but nothing technically makes this take place in another universe because canon can pick up right where this one ends
i saw a spoiler that said chloé’s mom’s name is audrey? so i’m going with that for her name (also because it’s weirdly similar to andre just like how dan/diana are rlly close)
and before anyone says anything, i did originally have this au with the agrestes but then changed it because it works better this way, and since felix doesn’t technically exist he can belong to whatever family i want him to
okay let’s get started
to all outward appearances, the bourgeois family is the envy of everyone. mr. bourgeois is the mayor, mrs. bourgeois runs the hotel, and chloé is the perfect politician’s daughter at twelve, wide-eyed and well-behaved.she doesn’t have a lot of friends, or at least, none that come over; when people at school ask she just tells them “my mom is sick” and they think she’s just being a snob so they stop trying
one morning chloé finds it’s one of what she calls her mom’s “fast days” because it’s 4am and her mom’s shaking her awake asking “i’m thinking about redecorating the dining room but do you like the mahogany or the maple better? and what about the curtains i readjusted them but can you come down and look i’m not sure. and when does marlena get in because i have some ideas for a new menu? and also she needs to order more bread because i made sandwiches do you want one?” audrey crashes hard a few hours later and andre 
she takes private piano lessons at an expensive studio and practice runs late that day because she’s tired and keeps messing up. when she comes out the boy whose lessons are after hers has been waiting a while but he’s still pretty nice about it and he actually seems pretty excited for the chance to talk to someone else his age. over the next few weeks he starts showing up a few minutes earlier and she finds out his name’s adrien and they start talking and becoming friends.
a couple months later, audrey’s been going a lot better, and chloé invites adrien over for dinner. everything goes well until dessert. audrey tells adrien the cake is for her son’s birthday!! he’s turning 15!! adrien leans over to chloé and mutters “i didn’t know you had a brother” and she sighs and goes “i don’t”
felix is literally the perfect gabe dont fight this
things play out pretty much the same as in the play (this is getting pretty long so im not gonna go thru it point by point) except since chloé’s 12 her rebellion takes more the form of like, shoplifting and stuff instead of drugs
adrien tries to get her to stop because she keeps saying she does it because she doesn’t have any friends but that’s not true!! he’s her friend!! theyre best friends aren’t they? and he knows what it’s like to not be able to talk to your mom so she can talk to him!! but chloé’s like “yeah okay but your mom’s dead not crazy” and keeps trying to shut him down and kick him back out of her life but he’s Not having that
chloé’s parents try a bunch of different treatments for audrey but at the same time theyre trying to keep things quiet because of like. the media. and when audrey loses her memory the paparazzi start spreading all these rumors. andre lowkey takes over the hotel so it doesn’t fall apart to keep up appearances
chloé finally breaks down when her mom leaves and adrien’s like “it’s okay i promised i’d be here always it’s gonna be okay” and chloé and andre were never close so it’s a little awkward because they’re all each other’s got now and so theyre working on it but they dont really know where to start
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wildpokemon · 4 years
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ML Season 3 Rewatch: Feast
Production No. 315
Yesss let’s watch another episode! I’ve missed making these lol. I think I only watched Feast once, so I’m excited to see it again and refresh myself on all the sick lore we got in this one!
Oh! Also, with all the episodes having been out for a few weeks now, I’m probably gonna talk spoilers a bit in these posts where it’s relevant, so that’s your spoiler warning for the finale episodes AND Chat Blanc and Felix
Let’s gooo
Okay this isn’t related to this episode but holy crap I haven’t been able to watch anything ML related for like two weeks cause I’ve been too busy, and just hearing the theme song put the BIGGEST smile on my face omg
i feel like we never talk about how good the accuracy of paris is in this show. like obviously its simplified and smoothed out etc, but this overhead shot of the entrance of the louvre is SO accurate
why exactly are adrien and jagged stone at the louvre for the unveiling of a supposedly random rock lol
lmaoo alya is like “listen idc if you wanna drool over adrien, just do it on your own time, okay?” i love their relationship
tbh i love that alya is doing more investigating into HM. i mean yeah it’s gonna make everything more complicated and probably dangerous, but tbh im here for it. also i just love how into it alya is
and the whole thing about old paintings being evidence of old miraculous users is such a fun idea. i know its technically only speculation for most of them, but still its so coooool
lmao and alix joking about a bunny miraculous. i know we saw this ep AFTER Timetagger, but the joke works just as well for me with this coming first. makes for good foreshadowing for seeing bunnyx in a few episodes.
and the guardian symbol being on all those paintings???? SIIIIIICK
nathalie and stone feast are having a staring contest
stone feast won, as nathalie almost passed out
adrien is so worried about her :((
*steadfastly ignores alya saying that LB and CN have only been around for a few months*
i really really like all the instances where we get to see marinette try and navigate how to hide her identity from alya while also doing whats best for her alter ego. she can only push so hard against alya wanting to post her findings online before it gets suspicious
hmmmm the blue border that outlines Fu when he first sees feast again is interesting. supposed to representative of his connection to him because hes the one who created the sentimonster?
flashback!!!
fu looks cool as fuck wearing the peacock miraculous tbh
you’re not you when you’re hungry
daaaang feast straight up eating a guy in the background of the flashback omg
the way gabe puts his hand on adriends shoulder and tells him not to worry about nathalie, and adriens reaction to the contact, and him immediately leaving the room.......yikes
fuck gabriel
also, is this the first time we’ve seen nathalie get dizzy when she WASN’T wearing the miraculous? or had it active? (i guess she could be wearing it rn and we just don’t see it)
but either way, she can sense sentimonsters out of costume, similar to how gabe can sense negative emotions when hes not hawkmoth
“nathalie, you almost passed out earlier from being near this rock. but please return tonight so that i can use it for my evil.......but maybe sleep before then, because your coughing is grossing me out.”
aaaaaaahhhh adrien is so SAD. aaahhh and the sad piano song :(( noo :((((((
“my mom used to have dizzy spells” :(((((((( he knows nathalie is SICK, and he LOVES her, AND he misses his mom!! aaaaahhhh
god my heart is gonna break when he finds out about how nathalie is helping gabriel
but plagg is the best omgsh this scene of them playing piano together is so sweet
must mayura naruto run everywhere
aaaand hawkmoth akumatizes the sentimonster, just for good measure lol
lmaoooo he eats the butterfly
akumatized feast is just, bigger feast lol
plagg nooo!!!!!! they take plagg away right after that sweet scene showing how much adrien needs plagg and that there’s no one else who understands him like plagg can aah :((
wheres that post about how after finding out she doesnt have her miraculous, the first thing marinette does is call out for tikki? cause they’re friends first :( she cares more about tikki than she does about being ladybug
daang marinette, use those ladybug skills to jump over those fences without tripping. you go girl
bikerbug lets gooooo
adljadhasasd the return of bananoir. this means he kept the suit from last time right?? adkjalsdj
and hes got a broom strapped to his back?? and riding a scooter?? a m a z i n g
omfgg and chat leans into the bananoir thing so hard omg he loves it
their strategy....is to throw andres ice cream at it lmaooo
lol fu trying to transform only to hurt his back
“hurry my lady, this thing already swallowed my stick whole!”.................................................
aaaaand chats face when he finds out hes gonna be eaten akdals so good
and ladybug smirking behind him?? amazing
lmao feast just explodes into a burst of bubbles
and just some more casual shots of nathalie dying, no big deal
aww fu joined in on their pound it
okAY i know this has been talked about before, but these shots at the end where it cuts between tomoe, the bourgeois’s and gabe/nathalie makes me positive that the families are connected somehow through something that probably happened a while back. cant wait to learn more about it
fu saying he’ll go back to the temple and explain everything to them soon........awkward...i guess after Miracle Queen, that won’t be happening.
SUPER interested to see some of those old guardians likely show up next season now that they’re back
Fu straight up just offering Marinette the guardian position. if that’s not some foreshadowing
fu’s disguise, is to put a fake mustache, over his real mustache. perfect
“I’m not going anywhere until Hawkmoth is defeated. I’ll never leave you” 👀👀
Wow that episode felt really fast lol. TONS of references and foreshadowing in it. I love getting all of the new lore. Even rewatching it now I feel a bit overwhelmed by all the new information in it lol. Can’t wait until next season too when we can have a bit more light shed on certain things, and hopefully see some of those monks from the temple.
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