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superhusbands4ever · 3 years

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I don't know if anyone else felt like this, but when Sylvie killed Kang, to me it felt... anticlimactic almost? It felt hollow. Empty. It bothered me at first until I thought more about it and realized it was supposed to feel that way. It was supposed to be unsatisfying, unfulfilling, and disappointing.

The way Loki and Sylvie reacted to Kang's speech about killing him and starting another multiversal war was very telling to both of them as characters and what we've learned of them through the show. Sylvie did not trust Kang one bit. And Kang was right when he said, to an extent, she didn't trust Loki either. She doesn't trust anyone but herself because her life experiences have taught her that it's safer that way. Loki, on the other hand, knew it was possible Kang was lying, but believed that he wasn't because Loki has been in Kang's position. Lying and manipulating to get what he wants. To get the throne, to keep the power. And he can tell that Kang isn't doing that.

Sylvie doesn't trust Kang. He's lying, he's stealing free will, he's acting like a God. He needs to be stopped. He needs to die. Loki agrees that what Kang is doing is wrong and he needs to be stopped, but maybe they are going about this all the wrong way. They need to take a minute and think this through.

But Sylvie isn't listening. Kang is stealing free will. He's ruining lives. He needs to die, it's for the best of the universe. Loki is saying no, but what if it's not? If what Kang is saying is true then by killing him, Sylvie and Loki could be making things much worse for the entire multiverse.

The problem? In that moment, Sylvie does not care about the multiverse.

Before Loki, Sylvie has never had the chance to care about anyone except herself. She's been on her own for years. Because of this she has been blinded by her, at it's heart, selfish drive to get revenge on Kang for all the shit she'd been through in her life. Kang stole her free will. Kang ruined her life. In that moment she is thinking about herself and her own pain. The cause of all her pain is right in front of her and she can finally get her revenge. She's trying to reason and justify the decision to kill him regardless of his warning by saying she's protecting free will, but that's not what's really driving her.

Loki, on the other hand, knows what it's like to care about other people. Frigga, Thor, Asgard, Mobius, even Sylvie - people who will be effected if they kill Kang and just carelessly unleash the wrath of his variants and the multiverse. And we've seen this - before Lamentis-1, Sylvie didn't care that the Hunters she killed were variants too - they still needed to die as a means to an end. Loki is the one who says "wait, if the Hunters are variants then they need to know so we can help them." Because he's thinking about Mobius. He's thinking about other people, not just what he wants. (That's why, when Sylvie accuses Kang of being a monster for killing innocent timelines as a means to an end, he said "grow up, hypocrite. We've all done terrible, horrendous things to get here. We're all villains.")

Sylvie wants to kill Kang because this is what she's been running towards her whole life. This is all she has. Getting revenge on the cause of her pain and suffering. She says it's for the good of the universe, but really this moment is for her. Loki is saying "this might be what you want, but that doesn't mean this is what is best for everyone. We have to think this through." But she doesn't care.

Instead, she sees the care and affection Loki has for her and in that moment, she uses it as a means to an end. She may genuinely care for him, but in that moment, she kisses him as a distraction. She uses his affection for her to her advantage to get him out of her way. Because she only knows how to think about herself and what she wants.

But when she does finally kill Kang... it's not this big, triumphant hero moment. It's cold. It's empty. There's no heroic music playing. There's no celebration to be had. It's just... silent. Outside, the timeline is cracking, thunder is rolling. He's dead, it's over. She looks around and falls to her knees, she breaks down. She's done it. The thing she's been fighting for for years. She's gotten revenge on the person who ruined her life. But now what? She's alone. She achieved her goal, but she pushed away the one person who ever cared about her to do it. This should feel good, we should feel excited. Instead, we feel dread. This should feel good, but in that moment it feels like we did something wrong.

She killed Kang and freed the multiverse... but at what cost?

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watcherinwater · 3 years

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So I definitely liked some of it. But once again we barely got any new information. Just an FYI though, it’s been confirmed there’s going to be a season 2 so I guess it’s not too bad that they’re going so slowly. But I still wish they would give us more background. We barely saw anything of Sylvie/Loki’s childhood and we still don’t know what her nexus event was-is it because she knew she was adopted? Because she was born a girl in her prime form?

They just came and took her-and yes don’t be surprised the TVA would hurt a child-look at who they are. Loki is alive and appears to be in some Loki variant dimension (is the black guy a Loki or a Thor? He had a hammer so I can’t really tell). Classic Loki, Kid Loki, Alligator Loki! Love it. I wonder if Mobius is in some Mobius variant dimension? We see him later in the trailer so he’s not dead either.

I kept hearing how this episode was going to be weird and do new stuff but honestly I feel like I waited through the whole thing to get the best scene at the end. Would’ve been nice to see the other Lokis in the beginning. They better all be in the next two episodes for all the screen time!

Can we have one goddamn episode where Loki doesn’t get beat up?!

We don’t have to see him constantly throwing people left and right but can we have one fight that he actually wins?! Where is the whole “we’re going to see his powers in a new way?” Dude can stop a building but he hardly ever even tries to fight back?! After growing up in Asgard? And he gets hurt that easily? Can be thrown by a human? This is the guy who was able to handle Captain America, who even held his own with Thor for a while; who fucking survived the Hulk and got back up? Who “packed a wallop”? You’re telling me a punch from memory Sif hurts him that much? What the hell is wrong with this? I keep waiting for BAMF Loki with at least some new powers and I’m tired of hearing “Oh just wait for the next episode”. And don’t write me and give me excuses-this part-which is my main beef with the show-is basically just bad writing. I heard the head writer never watched any of the previous Loki movies before making the series. I thought that was a joke, but now I’m not so sure.

Btw memory Sif, instead of screaming about what he did to you, wait until he’s asleep and cut off one side of the hair on his head. Don’t get mad-get even. That’s actually the best approach with someone like Loki. Many pranksters-even when they go too far-have a weird way of respecting people who stand up to them using their own methods.

While Loki definitely has some narcissistic traits, (and it looks like it’s going to get turned up to 11 if they go with Sylki 🤔) I wouldn’t say he’s an entire narcissist or that that defines him. Hello-look at where he grew up. Asgard is literally a narcissistic planet built on lies and a racial superiority complex. Royalty especially is going to be that way. Funny how Loki is usually the only one held accountable for Asgard’s sins.

I’ve always seen him more as a borderline with passive aggressive traits. One of those people who act superior because they’ve had too in the environment they’ve grown up in, been indoctrinated into it-and on some level believe it- but on another level hate themselves and try to cover it up with more grandstanding. His pranks were ways of passively-aggressively acting out when he couldn’t (or wouldn’t) act out in other ways. Emotionally neglected kids often do stupid and sometimes mean shit for attention because even bad attention is better than none. Loki at first hated the idea of other Lokis too and wanted to be the only one. They tried this narcissist stuff on Tony Stark too and while he definitely had some traits he wasn’t full blown either. And look how that turned out-Tony helped save the universe.

B-15 finding her memories and conscience because of Sylvie. She seems like she used to be a nice person and not the sadistic cop she came off as before. I’m guessing the TVA brainwashes it’s cops to be mean and aggressive. Ugh. Renslayer knows everybody’s a variant and she’s covering it up. It would seem she’s a variant herself because she used to be a time cop. Why cover it up? What does she know? She seems very conflicted-especially toward Mobius. It really hurt her to vaporize him. I’m thinking she’s in love with him. Mobislayer? I’m very happy Mobius is freeing himself and helping and I know we will see him again; but I have some serious issues with some of the stuff he did in this episode.

The time keepers being fake doesn’t surprise me. But who is really running the show? Will we find out next week? At the rate they’re going I’m not so sure-but at least we’re getting a season 2.

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