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katatonicimpression · 2 years
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Sam isn't a centrist or a moderate any more than Steve is. In fact, the early concept of the character was someone more radical, more progressive than Steve himself.
That's important.
EVEN IN THE MCU, Sam is profoundly anti government, more so than Steve. Remember it's Sam who actually argues against the Sokovia Accords on principle. Steve only fully turns against them when Tony puts Wendy under "house arrest".
Even in tfatws, which definitely had some "antifa super soldiers", "the left is going too far" vibes, actually had Sam agree with the flagsmashers, insist they not be called terrorists and tells the government and the world that borders are fake and that Karli's demands should be met.
But sure MJ can be a radical lefty to Sam's apparent conservatism. Just some random teen because she's said some cynical remarks about society. Or that other post months ago that suggested Luke Cage, positioning him as an activist against centrist Sam. Let's be clear, MCU Luke used to be a cop, worked with the cops for 2 seasons, and has not expressed a single left wing view the entire time. He's never been a community organiser or anything. Ironically, all the political people in that show are portrayed as grifters lol.
Honestly out of all the normal earth heroes in the mcu, Sam has easily been the most textually left wing. And yeah maybe that's a low bar but whatever. He literally agrees with the anarcho-communists and asks for their demands to be met, that's as textual as it gets.
That's not me shilling for tfatws because the politics of that show are a mess, but jesus guys stop assuming your faves have better politics than Sam just because you like their vibes more
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Just here thinking “even when I had nothing, I had Bucky” is literally “Bucky was my everything”, and so on the Helicarrier Steve gives up everything he now has — his job, his reputation, the mask, the shield, the title, and almost his life — to get Bucky back because that’s how much Bucky is worth.
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You know how the CACW quinjet conversation that’s always been mocked as forced heteronormativity? I’m sure that was the intention but I just remembered something.
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Bucky: Remember when I made you ride the Cyclone on Coney Island?
Steve: Yeah, and I threw up?
Bucky: This isn't payback, is it?
Steve: Now why would I do that?
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655 notes - Posted March 11, 2022
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There is something to be said about the way Steve and Bucky communicates with each other in the Captain America movies. The way they are so consistent and unvarying, as though they had tread the same ground with each other hundreds of times before and resolved every argument this way, because they all take the proforma of:
Steve: “stupid idea” Bucky: “that’s a stupid idea!” Steve: 🥺 Bucky: “UGH FINE!”
In the first act of the first movie, this conversation format is introduced in their very first disagreement, and establishes the way their dynamic is defined throughout the next 70 years.
Steve: I’m joining the army. Bucky: This isn’t a back alley, Steve, it’s war!! Steve: 🥺 Bucky: UGH. DON'T DO ANYTHING STUPID UNTIL I GET BACK.
Their relationship is put to the trial through the fires of the battlefield, but their communication style remains steadfast and faithful to their origins.
Steve: Are you ready to follow Captain America into the jaws of death? Bucky: Hell no. Steve: 🥺 Bucky: ONLY IF YOU KEEP THE TIGHTS.
As we come to CATWS, despite the intervening 70 years, their first verbal exchange falls back into the familiar rote, almost as if they had never parted a day. Importantly though, it is this very dynamic that jolts Bucky's memory.
Steve: Bucky? Bucky: Who the hell is Bucky? Steve: 🥺 Bucky: HUH. I KNEW HIM. Hydra goons: NO YOU DON'T. Someone go check that warranty on the brainwashing.
During the climatic confrontation in this movie, with the fate of the world weighing on his shoulders, Steve reaches for the same reassuring conversation technique to find a connection with the man before him...and he succeeds.
Steve: You’re my friend! Bucky: You’re my mission! Steve: 🥺 Bucky: ............🥺🥺🥺
And last but not the least! After a series of tumultuous events, during a time of great unrest and distrust, when even Steve seemed to doubt what Bucky was capable of, Bucky instinctively reaches for the same conversational tone to allay Steve's fears and regain Steve's faith in him.
Bucky: Steve...? Steve: Which Bucky am I talking to? Bucky: 🥺 Steve: 😌 Can't read that in a museum Sam: STEVE. What happened to keeping your head straight? To staying rational? To not being swayed by sentiment?! Steve: 🥺 Sam: THAT DOESN'T WORK ON ME. Steve + Bucky: 🥺🥺 Sam: ..........UGH.
661 notes - Posted April 28, 2022
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Every now and then I think about how lucky CATFA was written in the early 2010s when it wasn’t considered cringe to believe in goodness and kindness. How it gave us Steve and Bucky passionately arguing but the closest thing Bucky said to being hurtful was “right, and you’ve got nothing to prove”. He never once referenced Steve’s small stature or ill health. He never told Steve that he was chasing an empty dream because of his health records, only that he might get caught “or worse” recruited. He never mocked Steve for being overwhelmed by the size of his opponents, only teased him about his tenacity for not running away or giving up. His frustration was never because he thought Steve was not good enough, but because he wanted Steve to stay safe. Regardless of how you choose to interpret their love, there was never any doubt that Steve loved Bucky and Bucky loved Steve, even if those words were not said out loud, because the way they interacted spoke of mutual respect and affection and loyalty.
I loved when love wasn’t about how much two people could hurt each other and still be forgiven, but it was about two people who did everything to soften the harshness of the world because of how much they wanted the best for each other.
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Bringing this back because there is still confusion: Bucky is not responsible for the crimes of the Winter Soldier. The analogy is not “if you lost control of your car and killed someone you still need to be responsible for what your car caused”. It is not “if you’re a soldier who followed orders you still need to be responsible for the life you took”. Bucky was not distracted or indoctrinated. He was induced into a state where he had no idea who he was, could barely recall what he did, and where “he will do anything you tell him to”.
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The correct analogy is “if someone hijacked your car, tied you up and locked you in the trunk, then drove your car into people, you are not held responsible for what happened to the victims because you were as much a victim as they are”. Yes, maybe you will feel guilty for not putting up enough of a fight, or for not killing the hijacker when you thought you had a chance. But you should be told by your good therapist that while your guilt is a natural reaction of a good person, it wasn’t your fault and you should not make contact with the other victims on your own, much less apologise on behalf of the people who hijacked your car.
I hope that’s how you get treated in the real world anyway.
(Edit: small correction on the wording of one of the analogies)
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vgumiiho · 2 years
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tagging this as hawkeye spoilers but just in case um...
✨ hawkeye spoilers ✨
kate and clint talking about what clint did as the ronin like -
kate: you were a hero
clint: i was a weapon
clint: i was aimed by the right people at the right targets, so
kate: look, you made mistakes, but those are behind you
clint: no it's tied to me, tied to my family
why the fuck couldn't marvel let bucky have one single moment like this in tfatws??? swap a few words/context in this conversation and this is a similar convo sam and bucky or bucky and his therapist (if she were a good therapist) could have been having i'm just
so annoyed that marvel can show this kind of consideration for some characters but not others, when clint chose to do what he did, and bucky didn't...
so what you're saying, disneymarvel, is:
clint was a hero (and has nothing to amend for) because he willingly joined shield/put on the ronin costume, was aimed by the right people at the right targets who he then killed, when he could have walked away from shield/ronin any time, and doesn't need to apologize for killing a girl's father willingly, and
bucky was not a hero (and should make amends) because he was held prisoner, brainwashed, tortured, aimed by the wrong people at the wrong targets who he then killed, with no power to disobey the orders and couldn't walk away from hydra even if he tried, and needed to apologize to a man for killing his son unwillingly
right, great, got it, glad that's all cleared up /s
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Watch marvel stans shit on Sam (for not being enhanced/being a regular human and claiming he shouldn't have the shield) and then turn around and praise tony stark for being a regular human
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theurbanspaceboi · 3 years
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i already talked about this a little and @serpentargo made a good post about it as well, but i want to reiterate: racism surrounding the marvel fandom is still a serious issue.
we all claim to be woke and anti-racist here on tumblr dot com. big talk, but there's precious little actual anti-racism to be found. it's consistently evident, and for me the falcon and the winter soldier has very clearly demonstrated it.
the truth is that tfatws is about sam wilson. it's about a black man. it's about a complex, fascinating, likeable, badass black man becoming captain america against the odds. he is the main character, but you're all so god damn eager to like white characters better that you're willing to give baron zemo, a fucking terrorist, and bucky barnes, an underdeveloped and somewhat personality-less basic white man, more hype than captain fucking america. sam is relegated to the role of bucky's emotional support friend, the comic relief, the sidekick. lesser characters are the fandom's darlings. why? because they're white, and sam is black.
further, anthony mackie must be exhausted. he's just won an award for his role. he's busted his ass bringing sam wilson as captain america to life, and all the interviewers and fans can talk about and ask him about is sebastian stan. "what's it like working with sebastian? what's your relationship with sebastian like? give us the scoop on sebastian's upcoming project. do you wish sebastian was here?" mackie is a talented, incredible actor, and he deserves support, hype, and a moment in the limelight, but once again his white coworker is the talk of the town. once again, a black person is ignored and dismissed and minimized in favor of a white person. this is racism. that's what this is. fucking racism.
i have nothing against bucky barnes and baron zemo. they're cool characters. i've been known to post about bucky myself, because i like him and find his backstory compelling. i have nothing against sebastian stan, either. he's a very gifted actor and seems to be a kind person. i also acknowledge that stan and mackie are close friends, and often bring each other up in interviews and conversation.
there is nothing wrong with liking white characters, actors, and creators. there's nothing wrong with bucky barnes being a beloved character, or sebastian stan being a well-liked actor. the issue is preferring, intentionally or subconsciously, white people specifically because they are white.
anti-racism isn't a one-and-done deal. watching black panther and reblogging a couple black lives matter and stop asian hate posts doesn't instantly cure you of the capacity for racism. you have to work at it! it's a process, an ongoing work. we live in a world where unfortunately, bigotry have been normalized. it's fucked up but it's very easy to internalize racism and not treat everyone with the respect they deserve. it's easy to do the wrong thing. we have to be mindful and continue to check ourselves. we have to fight racism.
so how do we fight? do the work. educate yourselves. listen to the voices of poc. support poc. speak against racism. call out hate. most importantly, check yourself. ask yourself why you lean towards a white person over a person of color. is it for normal, innocuous reasons such as finding them funny or liking their story? or is it internalized racism? be respectful, think about why you're doing things, and learn.
do better, friends. don't be fucking racist.
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Just a heads up but Sebastian Stan isn't racist just because he liked a few racist memes. It's also because of how he handled BLM, his girlfriend appropriating Chinese traditional wear and posting it on Instagram, and not to mention Seb Stan taking up the role as Tommy Lee in an unauthorized biopic that Pamela Anderson herself didn't want nor ask for. Like Seb has been anti-Black and or has been perpetuating anti-Blackness for the longest. Also "liking a few racist memes" is questionable and weird af.
Yes he's not on the "same level" as Gal Gadot but that don't mean he ain't bigoted nor should he be absolved from anything. Their both shitty people but letting Seb off the hook by "measuring" his bigotry to Gal Gadot's is a poor excuse/reason to not acknowledge his behavior/sentiments. Other POC have liked him the same as you. You're not unique in your struggle with accepting the fact that he's racist and that shouldn't stop you from calling him out. You can't pick and choose who to absolve and who to call out just cause you liked them in the past or other people have done worse.
"Just a heads up" this message is exhausting and condescending but okay let's go.
Who tf said I absolved him of ANYTHING. you clearly don't follow me because if you did you'd know I've been condemning Pam and Tommy for MONTHS. you'd also know that I work as a journalist and turned down an interview I was offered with the cast because of how disgusted I was with all their involvement. I literally gave up a 500 dollar payday because both my editor and I agreed we did not want to platform the show or anyone involved. For context, I'm a freelancer and gigs like that are the bulk of my income. And while I'll happily admit I did consider taking it because of the money and how much I've liked Sebastian's work in the past, I still turned it down because of my stance on his involvement in that rotted show.
You do not get to tell me what kind of person I am based on the little I do here and you do not get to tell me how to feel about racism, especially based on what "other poc" have said. I'm not them. You don't know me and it very much seems to me that you're holding me to a different standard because I am a poc. are you going into the inboxes of all his white stans and saying this too? Are you going into the inboxes of Harry Styles fans? Taylor Swift fans? How about Tom Holland fans? Benedict Cumberbatch fans? Are you going into their inboxes and reminding them their faves are racist?
As for the social media shit, I didn't condemn it cos I didn't know. I unfollowed sebastian after tfatws finished. Also, and I can't stress this enough, I had no idea he even had a gf. I don't concern myself with private shit of actors unless it's very obvious public knowledge or it's really weird like they in a cult or something.
since you think me, a stranger on the internet, calling out racist celebrities is the height of moral fortitude and activism, here you go: it's fucked that sebastian stan likes racist memes/comedy and also apparently has a gf who is racist. From the bottom of my heart, I do genuinely think that's shitty.
In future, you can't just block a tag or unfollow someone who u clearly have issues with. If you refuse to acknowledge engagement doesn't equal endorsement and think that me not overtly saying racism is bad means I somehow support it, that's on you and you're welcome to unfollow me if that's the case.
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Jon: why doesn't he realize that love isn't going to save us, this is bigger than us and I can likely never escape?
The Eye: i agree
Jon: the fuck did you just say about my boyfriend????
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modern AU where the reason Meng Yao and Jiang Cheng have so much Divorced Energy is because in high school they were in Home Ec together and got paired to treat a sack of flour as a baby and keep it alive for a month. Problem is when you combine two people who are used to doing all the work in a group project things get chaotic very fast.
Anyway five years later they both blame the other for getting the only failing mark in their entire academic career. JC claims MY took their kid hostage while MY claims he was removing the child from a toxic environment (JC’s foul mouth). Everyone else who remembers is pretty sure it had something to do with that time Headmaster Lan Qiren stormed down the halls with flour all over his pants (front AND back??) and beard.
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shout out to Timothy “Gives No Fucks” Stoker who, upon being asked “were you recording with a blank tape?”, looked at the pile of tapes definitely labelled “martin’s tapes, private and personal, theater enthusiasts and poetry antis DNI”, then looked Martin Korkscrew Blackwood dead in the eye and said, “...It was blank.”
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I just think the evil lighter is neat
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Haven’t seen enough appreciation of the fact that instead of using his wings to fly back after getting kicked off the train, Sam Wilson chose to walk back with Bucky, who, by the way, invited himself onto Sam’s mission just to glare and nag at him the entire time! Sam couldve saved himself an excruciating conversation with john whatshisface if he didn’t have to help this old man get back home.
Also he waited for Bucky after he got arrested, even though he didn’t have any authority to get him released. Even though he’s still pissed about Bucky keeping Isaiah Bradley a secret, and he’d just been harassed by racist cops.
Would it have been a dick move to ditch Bucky? Probably. Would it have been understandable to do so after the day he had? Totally.
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If you ever wondered how chaotic dean could've been if he'd just accepted he was bi early on... I wrote a fic for you. Updates every Monday!
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23 notes • Posted 2021-11-01 15:06:02 GMT
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So I 100% accept Jake as canon bi even without explicit confirmation. Unfortunately this is mostly because, as much as I love b99, they already have a gay police capt and a bi detective. They're not going to confirm another queer character :/
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Jake Peralta had a boyfriend in hs but didn't know. Like, hs ex shows up to the precinct one day and tells everyone they dated and the only person surprised by this news is Jake.
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To the ppl that say jake isn't bi and is just like anti toxic masculinity.....
The person you are looking for is Boyle
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@rainbowrowell just wanted to let you know I named my fish Baz cuz he has strong Baz vibes. He is a year and a half old now 💙
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I've always wondered how different things would have been if Steve had died at the end of CACW. Like, during the fight with Tony, Tony either kills him during his temper tantrum or Steve dies somehow taking a hit for Bucky. Bucky escapes, gtfo with T'Challa, and they're the ones that get the other Avengers out of the prison.
Obviously the writers would never do that because it would take Tony down a path that he really wouldn't be able to come back from and it would be much harder to argue that he isn't a villain in the movie then. But it would have been interesting to see how things would have played out.
Thanks for the interesting ask. I think this deserves a fanfic of its own. We're going to assume for the purpose of this that there is no MCU/Disney boss and the characters will act according to what they believe in.
Firstly, I would be very, very curious what path this takes Bucky down. The timing of Steve’s death here would catch him at his most mentally vulnerable. My headcanon for post-CACW Bucky is that Steve is the one who grounded him, coaxed him to go through healing, and gave him a sense of purpose. At that point in time the only person he trusts is Steve, and I think without Steve, there is a strong chance Bucky won't accept an offer to heal in Wakanda for two reasons - he doesn't trust anyone (especially if Tony - Steve's alleged friend - kills Steve), and he doesn't want to give himself time to heal.
Regardless of what flavour you want to interpret Steve and Bucky's relationship, I think at the very least Bucky will feel (especially if Steve dies protecting him) obliged to continue Steve's legacy. I'm not talking about taking up the shield, because I think (disregarding the BS in TFATWS) Bucky's feelings about the symbol of Captain America is just as complicated as Sam's. It allowed the world to see Steve as the hero Bucky knows he is, but it has also attracted a lot of danger and unfair criticism, and the shield was a propaganda symbol for an institution that frequently disregarded not only Steve's personal wishes, but also his personal integrity.
I feel like there is a strong chance that Bucky will respond to Steve's death in a very destructive way both externally and internally. He may choose to hold back from lashing out at Tony, or he may try and fail to kill Tony. I think he will want to continue Steve's fight against "bullies", but he’s likely to challenge people and institutions that even Steve took a softer approach with (because Steve was planning for a future with the Avengers looking at you EG). There is nothing left to lose, and he doesn't have a future to look forward to. Will he go and tear down the CIA? Or other powerful organisations that had made use of Hydra? Or become a rogue anti-establishment vigilante altogether?
I feel like T’Challa or Sam would quickly rein him in — not because they have to help him heal but simply because a loose cannon would be a threat for the rest of the Avengers. With Steve gone, what's left is Wanda, Nat and Bucky, who all have fairly non-pacifist ways of dealing with problems. I think they will naturally want Sam to be their leader because they know he's the one with the tempering voice and level mind. I don't know that Sam will want to take up the Captain America mantle at this point, not when the CIA and Ross were responsible for creating this mess in the first place, and not to forget that at this point the CIA has already restarted work on the super soldier project likely from Isaiah's samples.
As an aside, I'm not sure how Scott and Clint will respond to Steve's death. I think they will both become even more disillusioned with the system that tried to destroy them when they were doing the right thing. But even if they wanted to stay with the Avengers, I think Sam will convince them to go back to their families. I think it's also likely that Vision would defect if he finds out Tony killed Steve.
T'Challa may feel a more urgent need to bring Wakanda into the world stage if Captain America is down. I wonder if Nakia will work more closely with the Avengers. The remaining Avengers will need some way of accessing information, money, accommodation, etc. Natasha will have her ways, but Nakia will also have the added network of the Dora Milaje, technology and money behind her, and I feel like their goals also align.
And lastly, Tony. (Please stop reading if you hate or love Tony because I'm fairly neutral about him)
I think if Steve dies, his relationship with this half of the Avengers is unsalvageable. The divide wouldn't be only ideological, but deeply personal as well, not just for Bucky but for Sam and for Wanda and Nat, who both had good relationships with Steve (Nat also seemed to have a good relationship with Tony so I think she will be very torn by the situation). There's probably going to be a lot of anger and denial, and to be fair, he would also be trying to come to terms with his parents' deaths. I do feel his coping mechanism would be quite self-destructive. It's possible that his hatred of Bucky would actually deepen because he would blame Bucky for forcing him to kill Steve. I'm not trying to be unjust to Tony, but I think his characteristic coping mechanism is to build a little fortress of self-belief and angry righteousness, because this would save him from having to unpack all the trauma inside -- the grief, the guilt, the helplessness, the sense of betrayal (however misplaced it is), the regret. Most of Tony's life was building iron casings around himself to hide from dealing with complex emotions, and I think he's unlikely to allow himself to be empathetic towards Bucky in particular, but maybe not even the rest of the Avengers.
From the other side, I also think it's quite unlikely that either Sam or Bucky would forgive Tony. Neither of them might be after revenge, but I think the pain would be so deep that there's no way they could work with Tony again.
What would be even more interesting is how the world responds to this. No doubt mainstream media would try to paint Steve as a criminal -- and in fact, this might be what pushes Tony into feeling any sort of empathy for Team Cap, because at the end of the day he still respected Steve, and Steve didn't deserve to be written like that by the news. There will be staunch supporters who refuse to believe what's reported in the media, and some might even confront Tony about this and ask him if he feels guilty. The American military may try to bring forward the anointment of a new Captain America, and this time Sam and Bucky would have no obligation to even be polite about it.
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