#this isnt really that big an issue with shinee because shinee's vibes have been relatively youthful

[sanstropfremir]

this is random and idk if you've already talked about it, but what do you think of stray kids' cover of my house by 2pm? i come back to it every once in a while because i like it as a song but i always thought the performance was so... emotionless. and impersonal. and i think part of that is because of the fact that they're lipsyncing. ik it's not their song and 4th gen already lip syncs as it is, and the chances for that are even higher when you're covering a song and don't want to mess it up out of respect i suppose (and even more so if it's actually your company senior.)

BUT!! even aside from that, i've noticed that like half of them look down at some point, like they're so concentrated on not messing up the moves or something, so aware that they're on stage, that it's a bit uncomfortable. i know it was during last year's award season which had no audience, but still. i much like it when an artist keeps it nice even when they're not center. i'm also aware that they might not have had the longest time to prepare for this, they performed for every award show i think so it's only natural that they were a bit worried.

surprisingly for me, my favorites in that stage are lee know and changbin, and lee know especially is not a member i pay too much attention to. but they're giving off at least some attitude. lee know's seems much too fabricated, so to speak, but changbin, especially in the beginning of his rap, seems very natural.

i have not talked about this stage actually! i don't remember watching it during the end of year shows but i was pretty laser focused on the wild shit that taemin was doing so that's not surprising. i think rookie groups of the big three have it rough when it comes to covering their seniors songs, because usually they have really fucking big shoes to fill. i can imagine that yea, skz were probably nervous as all hell to cover my house because hello, it's my house. i agree with most of your points here, i do think they probably didn't have the most amount of time to learn it, but other than nerves and unfamiliarity, i think the two biggest factors in this stage looking unnatural for them is 1) they're young and 2) it's pretty far outside of their wheelhouse. i've mentioned this a a couple of times before, both in relation to skz and to 4th gen groups as a whole, but they haven't really learned how to put on a stage persona in the same way that 2nd gen groups have. this makes it especially difficult for them to cover 2nd gen songs because the premise of 2nd gen songs is that the ridiculousness is geniune, not ironic. not that my house is that particularly ridiculous for a 2nd gen song since it came out in 2015, but the performances are still motivated from that place. the reason why lee know and changbin manage to look the most comfortable is lee know is the main (i think? one of at least) dancer and has a lot of dance training, so he's probably the most familiar with stage personas, and changbin is covering ok 'famous-for-not-giving-a-shit' taecyeon's part, which is the least stage-y and most naturalistic part in the song. and even if that were not an issue, skz is like five years too young for the vibe of this song. 2pm were already SEVEN years into their career when my house was released; the youngest members were 25 and jun.k was 27, vs bang chan who was barely scraping 23 at time of recording. for further elabouration on this point, see my previously posted response about men post-25 and how they are always hotter.

my second point of my house being outside of skz's usual repertoire is not really that deep, but i think it bears mentioning because it's connected to the other two points that i brought up, and also some things i've mentioned before. there isn't a whole lot of nuance within skz's title tracks. and i mean performance/choreographic nuance, not emotional nuance. their style tips more towards loud and brassy, with a lot of big, complex, and fast movements. my house is not that. in fact it's probably close to the polar opposite of that, which requires a diffferent set of skills that they just don't have the experience in right now. i think if skz came back in five years and did a cover again we'd be saying different things, but they were definitely punching above their pay grade here lol.

#stray kids w #i watched the regular cut stage version and then the dance practice and the wideshot fancam #and it's not that it's a bad performance it's just so very far outside their normal that it doesn't look right #its not really that weird of a trend because it kind of makes sense but also doesnt #but the propensity for making rookie groups cover senior's songs #without acknowledging the amount of experience the senior group had at time of release is a bit weird #and sets the rookies up for failure most of the time #like yea the choreo for my house isnt technically hard but also a 19yro does NOT have the vibes for that song #this is also very common with tvxq covers #i think i said it a while ago but any rookie group that tries to cover kyhd would be instantly annihilated by the vibes #this isnt really that big an issue with shinee because shinee's vibes have been relatively youthful #rookies just have to go up against the fact that its shinee lmao #and we start to see less and less full covers as groups get more mature so we dont really have an opportunity to see a proper match #which is fair and valid and i understand it is the way it is #this is why i love that ace still does a fair amount of covers because you can see them absolutely BODY tracks #the feel special its live.............head empty donghun only #kpop questions #stray kids #group analysis #text #answers