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lotus-duckies · 4 months
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okay so uh interesting detail about The Good, The Bad and Casey Jones
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Casey gets introduced to the turtles in a way that's Extremely, eerily similar to Karai
One of the turtles express frustration with their brothers usually in a way that's signature to their character (raph having anger issues, leo not being taken seriously as a leader) and go out to be angry and kick a roof or something
then a fight sequence with a secondary antagonist occurs (ie the purple dragons, the foot guys), and the human person is introduced in an ominous, mysterious and probably violent way.
Then the turtle and the human have a fight sequence (albeit Casey's and Raph's fight is much longer, Leo's and Karai's is spread out over the episode in question) where one of them almost kills the other for one reason or another
The human continues to pursue the turtle until they get exposed to the family, usually in an intruder fashion and the brothers say something like "wait you know them? why???" and Stuff Happens
That's not even including like. when leo saved karai from falling in a similar way Casey saved Raph from falling and giving an awkward "thanks". (also the fact that both of them get adopted into the clan at some point which is important)
And isn't that so interesting???
I don't know what that says about the respective relationships and how they're portrayed, other than maybe that's part of the reason why people like Rasey so much, because we were essentially given a plotline meetcute that's really similar to a canon romance plotline
But I do think there is something to be said about how situations get recontextualized as romantic/sexual or as platonic, and if the relationship is presumably heterosexual that probably plays like. a big role on the reading. If a boy and a girl get into a fight, it's like erotic or something but if two boys get into a fight, it's just boys being boys.
However what happens instead is that I'm looking at two different potentially queer situationships like "ah yes, homoerotic sword fight my beloved"
(also there is something to be said. about how it's canon that both leo and raph like someone who can beat the shxt out of them, just that apparently casey doesn't apply to that because boy?? but also he expressed enjoying being a girl so like????)
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nostalgicninjas · 23 days
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take notes peter parker 🤭
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kchauu55 · 6 months
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silly sketches hehe
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fabuloustrash05 · 6 months
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I don't care how non family related Leo and Karai are in future versions of TMNT or in fellow fans' own takes on TMNT where they say they're not related at all in their versions.
When there's been TWO versions of Karai being Leo's relative in the span of a decade, it makes shipping him with her in other versions very VERY weird and uncomfortable when that thought is in the back of your head.
TMNT 2012 and Rottmnt has officially burned the bridge of the Leo x Karai concept.
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Group Costume: The Wizard of Oz, Part 3
“C’mon, Gilda? I look like walking Pepto Bismol!”
“Why did I have to be the lion? I don’t see the correlation.”
Part 2 here
Part 4 (and the final drawing of this series) coming soon! Commissions open:)
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moccaaaaa · 9 months
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Diseñar es mi pasión XD
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(por si alguien se arde, leo y la kachanga no son hermanos ojito)
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fallingintotragedies2 · 7 months
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Controversial opinion ahead!
Idk what the tmnt 2012 writers were on but like
Not every 15 yr old needs a love interest
‘But some of them r cute’
Are they? Are they really?
Is Donnie being creepy about April cute?
Are Leo and Karai being siblings yet still being shipped cute?
Is the fact that, Mona Lisa’s age wasn’t disclosed so Raph, a 15 yr old, is being shipped with someone who may as well be way older then him, cute too?
You know what would actually be cute?
Realising that 15 yr olds are kids and don’t NEED a love interest, and even if they do have one, do it right. Don’t be weird.
Some of y’all needed a reality check, you’re welcome
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enby-calamity · 2 years
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2012 TMNT Incorrect quotes
#1
Donnie: So, did everyone learn their lesson? Raph: No. Casey: I did not. April: I may have actually forgotten one. Mikey: Also no. Donnie: Oh good, neither did I. Leo: *Exhausted sigh*
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Casey: Donnie is too tall for me to kiss them on the lips. What should I do? Mikey: Punch them in the stomach. Then, when they double over in pain, kiss them. April: Tackle them! Leo: Dump them. Raph: Kick them in the shin! Donnie: No to all of those! Just ask me to lean down!!
#3
Casey: Bye Donnie! Bye Raph! Bye April! Bye Leo! Bye Donnie! Mikey: You said ‘bye Donnie’ twice. Casey: I like Donnie.
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Karai just after joining the team: Man, they look like a real handful. How do you deal with them? Leo, watching Casey and April screaming, Mikey trying to set a sleeping Raph on fire, and Donnie choking on air: I don't know either.
#5
Casey: Rules were made to be broken. Donnie: They were made to be followed. Nothing is made to be broken. Raph: Uh, piñatas. April: Glow sticks. Mikey: Karate boards. Leo: Spaghetti when you have a small pot. Casey: Rules. Donnie:
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inciexec · 1 year
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karai shows her younger sister how to do make up like hers <3
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leorai4life · 7 months
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Hey guys, I made a thing! <3
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oryoucouldhavemine · 1 month
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OMIGODDDDD Okay, i know ive been gone for a WHILE and mostly talk about the owl house on here but im getting FED UP with seeing people defending leorai on here and i NEED to say smth lmao Leo and Karai ARE siblings. That is the end of that. There is no "no they aren't" to it. Because they are. To say they AREN'T means you are completely invalidating any adoptive relationship. You think that adoptive siblings aren't real siblings, you think that adoptive parents do not care about their children in the same way they do for their biological ones, you are completely discrediting the fact that adoptive parents care for their adoptive children the same as their biological children. I've seen this argument used COUNTLESS times to defend ships, that because the siblings are "Adopted" it's fine to ship them. No it's not! It's not okay to ship leo and karai, who ARE adoptive siblings, it's not okay to ship sal fisher and larry because they are ADOPTIVE SIBLINGS, it's not okay to walk up to a real life adoptive sibling duo and tell them you ship them or see them as a couple! Splinter adopted the turtles. Yes, in a very very unorthodox way, but he still adopted them and took care of them as his own children for FIFTEEN YEARS, raising them to be loved like his own children, raising them like siblings. Shredder DID NOT adopt Karai morally, he KIDNAPPED HER and lied to her for 16 years, he never raised her with love, and he never raised her to view the people she was surronded by as her own family. He never told her the truth, he never gave her attention unless it was needed. Did he care for her? Yes, i will not deny he cared for her, but it was less "he cares for her like a father" and more "he cares for her because hes invested 16 years caring for her." When Karai found out the truth and started somewhat living with the turtles, she called Splinter father. Mikey repeatedly called her sister. The turtles for the most part all viewed her as their sister. The five of them all called the exact same man "father." They have the same last name. And once they all figured it out KARAI WAS RAISED TOGETHER WITH THE TURTLES!!! Biologically, Leo and Karai are not siblings. But morally, ethically, technically, legally, they are. Stop discrediting adoptive familial relationships to support your incestuous ship. (and yes! surprise! It's still incest because they are family! incest isn't just based on actual genetics believe it or not :P) And atp, if after reading all that you STILL wanted to defend and ship leorai, just block me. it's not worth reading your dumbass logic in a reblog, don't take the effort to try and "correct" any information, just block me. i don't want to see it anyway have a lovely day and sorry for the tangent lmao
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pumpkinpie59 · 8 months
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btw if you’re gonna make fun of leo for crushing on karai you should also make fun of karai for flirting with him and encouraging it :/
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wr-winter · 9 days
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chu❤️
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squidsqwag · 1 year
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THE WAY THAT LEO GETS PISSED OFF AT THE END PFPFPG
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nostalgicninjas · 3 months
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2012 Leorai Rant
there’s so much discourse about whether 2012 leorai is considered incest or not and i kinda wanted to throw my two cents in ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
i grew up with the 2012 series, and as a kid, i was a hardcore leorai fan. now as an adult, i’ve become neutral to the ship (though it will always hold a special place in my heart for nostalgic purposes). overall my thoughts/perspective on leorai have changed a lot over the years. i’ve grown to ship them more with other people (‼️ aprinardo and shinirai supremacy ‼️) while still loving and appreciating their canon dynamic. personally, i don’t view their relationship as entirely platonic or romantic. on one hand, i believe leo and karai do love each other like family (the same way all the turtles love april and casey like family) but they also connect on a deeper level that’s too intimate to call them “siblings”. it’s not as black and white as them being either brother/sister or boyfriend/girlfriend. to me, their relationship has so many layers it’s too complex for labels. which is fine because labels are overrated anyway. but that’s just my opinion.
i completely get why some people (especially those with adopted family members) think the relationship is weird, and i also get why some people see no problem with it. at the end of the day, it all depends on an individual’s life experiences or personal preferences.
note: if two people are biologically blood relatives, then an intimate/sexual relationship between them is 100% incest and i do not support or condone such behavior.
in this particular case however, i believe there is a difference between real incest and what society views to be incest. imagine two people have been dating for a while and then their parents fall in love and decide to get married. are they supposed to just turn their feelings off for each other and break up because they are now “technically siblings”? i’m sorry to break it to you but that’s not how emotions work. emotions are complicated. and frankly it seems wrong to try to force two people to think/feel a certain way about each other just because it’s what society excepts. i have always been a firm believer that people should be free to follow their hearts and love who they love. if there is no blood or biological connection involved (or any other illegal factors), then i see no reason why people can’t be free to choose how they get to view a person or how they wish for those relationships to develop. because in this case, love is not a crime.
in a way, the same can be said for leo and karai. first impressions count for something, and leo had already developed feelings for karai long before he found out she was splinter’s daughter. i know most people would disagree, but just because they view the same man as a father figure does not make them obligated to view each other as siblings. just because mikey CHOOSES to view karai as a sister does not mean leo is obligated to view her the same way. same goes for raph and donnie. from what was shown in the series, those two (especially raph) hardly considered karai to be a part of their immediate family, much less considered her a sister. and that’s their right. as much as i’m sure we all wanted to see the turtles and karai come together (and trust me i did too), donnie and raph had valid reasons to dislike/distrust karai and they shouldn’t be forced to brush their justified feelings aside and immediately accept her as a “sister” if they don’t want to. they may view her as an ally/asset to the team, but if they don’t want to view her as family, then they shouldn’t have to (though i’m sure they would eventually accept her in the future; whether or not as a sister or just a distant family member, we’ll never know).
i even once saw someone say that if shipping leorai isn’t incest because they aren’t blood related, then it shouldn’t be considered incest when shipping the turtles with splinter since they also aren’t blood related. that’s a really gross comparison for multiple reasons but mainly;
1.) the turtles are all MINORS and splinter is a grown ass man which is reason enough because W T F
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2.) splinter has always viewed the turtles as his children and the turtles have always viewed him as their father. for him to suddenly take any kind of sexual interest in them is downright predatory, blood or no blood.
as for the whole “whether or not they share dna” debate, that’s honestly up to interpretation. splinter was never actually seen touching the turtles, so it’s not a canon fact that they actually absorbed any of his human dna when they mutated. and even if they had, the notion that this automatically makes them biological relatives to splinter is actually quite comical. that’s like saying the radioactive spider that gave peter parker superpowers is suddenly his new father. sounds silly, doesn’t it?
overall, i hate it when careless leorai fans make insensitive statements about adopted families, and i also hate it when anti shippers treat leorai fans like freaks just for having a different perspective on their relationship. if you prefer to think of them as brother and sister, then that’s cool. we’re all entitled to our opinions. what’s not cool is constantly harassing fans of the ship and shoving your “sibling” agenda down their throats (and vice versa).
to borrow a paragraph from @orokukarai’s rant:
If the ship makes you uncomfortable, whether it's for personal reasons or you're just not vibing, that's OK. If you personally see it as incestual, that's valid. But going around saying Leorai shippers all like or support incest is not true and there are many valid readings where they're not incestual even if you disagree with them. Some shippers probably do like incest, but then so do many non-Leorai shippers.
in conclusion, respect other people’s opinions. if you stumble across content you don’t like, block or ignore it. no need to comment hate or fill up the ship hashtags with negativity (and that goes for ALL fandoms).
just stay in your lane and keep scrolling ✌️
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badassturtles235147 · 2 months
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Absolutely WORST Couple in TMNT in TMNT History!!!!
The one and only: LeoRai!
(Like Mikey, I did not want to leave Leo out but because of Nick, his only love interest was Karai so instead of saying how 'good' they are for each other, I am going to say why their ship, should have never excited in the first place.)
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Why Karai and Leo are the worst couple in TMNT.
Well.
For starts.
THEY!
ARE!
SIBLINGS!
They are literally siblings!
They are brother and sister!
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This guy, remember him?! You know the guy that Leo and Karai both call father! The guy who gave them both their names, and raised/created them?!
Sure, maybe Karai and Leo were not raised together! Maybe they are not blood! But they have the same father which makes them related and not only that, even if Karai was Shredder's daughter, they would still be related, you know why? Because Shredder was Splinter's brother which would have made Karai, Splinter's niece and Leo's cousin!
Again, maybe not blood but they were raised together and shared the same father and mother, making them brothers!
It does not matter if you are not bloody related. I still think it is complicated and weird, to have romantic feelings for your sibling, even if they are adopted.
I know in the beginning; they did not know that they were related but as soon as Splinter told Leo that Karai was his daughter, he should have backed the hell off and been like, "Oh my God...I had a crush on my sister. Gross."
But nope! Instead, Leo kept trying to impress Karai!
Also...I know a lot do not agree with this, and I know, I am probably being stupid but I have a suspicion...that the turtles are related to Splinter by blood.
They need human DNA in order to get mutated into humanoids, right? And I know a lot of people think that they got it from the people at the Pet store, but I am pretty sure, at least in real life, Pet store employees, do not grab pets with their bare hands, especially turtles because of all the germs they might carry, and they have other animals to deal with, so they do not want it to spread. At least, that's what I heard.
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Also, notice how the Turtle tank does not have like any sort of cover on it. Therefore, Splinter's hair could have fallen into the tank, or he could have put his fingers in there to play with the turtles as he walked.
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Also, there is Donnie's eyes.
(This is anonymous, so I do not know who wrote the words on the picture but nice headcanon.)
Sometimes, I think Donnie's eyes are brown but most times, I think they are red...like Splinter's! That or reddish brown. Or they are probably not red at all because I know that is not a real eye color, even though I think it would be cool but maybe just a darker shade of ember?
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Not any of the turtles show any physical relation to Splinter, like Karai but Donnie, I believe has the same exact eye color as Splinter, like Karai does. (I know Karai's eye color is more ember-ish but she defiantly did not get her eye color from Tang Shen and Splinter's eyes are closer to ember than his wife's was.)
I know this might not be true and the turtles could have gotten the DNA anywhere, but I am a little concern and if it so, then I am defiantly going to vomit. More than I did before, when I found out LeoRai were siblings.
Anyway, the bottom line is, that Karai and Leo are %10000.99 siblings and they should never have shipped because of that one single fact.
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Even though the sibling's thing, is the first reason the ship should never have existed, there is also another reason.
Which is... how would they work?
They are so different and just do not seem like a good mix!
Karai is a badass kunoichi! She is rebellious, bold, and fierce while Leo is...Leo.
They would never work, even if they weren't related. Leo is always trying to change Karai, always trying to tell her what to do and what is right or wrong, like he is her parent or leader but he is neither.
Karai does not need to change, she does not need to be treated like there is something wrong with her because you know what, there isn't anything wrong with her!
She is only human.
Karai's feelings and actions are valid. She was abused and lied to by Shredder her whole life. He held her prisoner and put her through hell!
Karai is just trying to find her own way, rediscover herself, and redeem herself the only way she knows how to. At the end of the day, the only way Karai can find the right path is by doing it on her own, in her own time and she is going to walk whatever path she wants to walk because it feels right to her.
Right now, she needs to make the mistakes, she needs to learn on her own and not have someone else tell her what to do. Shredder did that to her enough. She does not need to change; she just needs to feel understood and supported.
Splinter gives her that but Leo, the little tattletale, ran to Splinter and told him everything, hoping he would do something but Splinter, number one dad, knew he could not, knowing Karai was already confused and was just trying to figure things out.
Leo, I believe is just bad for Karai. Not on purpose but he is. He puts his own feelings before her's and keeps putting his opinions in her head which does not help.
He is always trying to save her, always trying to change her but Karai needs neither.
She is perfect just the way she is.
You are perfect Karai, perfect!
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I mean seriously guys, THIS!
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With THAT?!
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THIS!
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With THAT!
Seriously?
NO!
No! Just no! We are not doing the badass in love with the dork thing!
I like Leo, I do! But not with Karai! Karai and Leo do not mix! Whatsoever!
Ok, let's pretend that these two do get together. Here is my opinion if they ever got together. They will always constantly be fighting. Think about it.
They are both leaders.
They are both used to being the boss.
And they both hate being told what to do by someone else.
"I am the order guy."
"I told you it was dangerous."
"I told you, I was fine!"
They both have different leading styles, different beliefs, and different personalities.
Leo would no doubt try to take over and be the guy in control which would annoy Karai, because she does not need nor want his help, and him taking over, could make her lose respect with the clan. As for Karai, she would always be hard on Leo for his softness and mercy, especially if it almost got him killed.
Eventually, the fighting gets so bad, that they get divorced, and Splinter is going to have to kill Leo because he broke his little girl's heart. Lol.
So yeah, even if they were not related, I still do not think LeoRai should exist because Karai and Leo are not a good match.
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These two are so much better together, when they act like siblings and best friends instead of trying to be romantic with each other.
LeoRai stole that opportunity, and it is the reason why we never got to see Karai grow as a character! Because everything scene she is in, there always has to be a LeoRai moment and they constantly made her the damsel in distress just so there can be even more LeoRai moments.
LeoRai stole so much! It stole Karai's thunder and chance to really shine in the show!
The idea of Splinter having a long-lost daughter and that daughter being Karai was so good, but they did nothing with it because they were so focused on LeoRai.
They should have focused more on her and her character, because you know what, this idea was new and it was different, this was a different Karai and everyone was really excited for it, only to be met with disappointment and unsatisfaction.
Karai was robbed by LeoRai and I will never forgive Nickelodeon for that. Someone seriously needs to rewrite TMNT 2012 and undo, all the wrongs they did because there was just so much opportunity, they missed, not just with Karai but other things as well.
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LeoRai fans, you like what you like, and I respect that, but I will never understand how or why, you think Leo and Karai would be good together.
Karai deserved better than LeoRai. She deserved a little brother who she could trust with her life and give advice when needed. She deserved a brother, who she can always count on to come running to help her when needed.
She did not deserve a lover, who is also her brother, constantly trying to play hero around her and trying to save her, when she did not need that.
Karai did not need or even wanted a lover.
She needed a family because God knows Shredder did not give her that.
Yes, Karai loves Leo but not in the way that you think. She loves and respects him because he was the only one who believed and never gave up on her. She loves him as a best friend and a brother. Not as a lover.
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