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wrongmha · 4 hours ago
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Dabi: Endeavor's my dad, not yours. You will never be his son! Hawks: You have severely misread the situation. Trust me, there's nothing filial in the feelings I have for Endeavor.
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No, no BUT the parallel of:
Dabi burning down the people who called him gross and made fun of him in that alley.
Little Tomura killing the dudes who kicked him and made fun of him in some backstreet.
I mean those two must had faced quiet the horror in streets being out there alone, surrounded by older people, being confused and young, haven't lost their families.
I think that's of the first times Dabi kills someone? Can't remember. But those random dudes in Tomura's dudes in his story where also one of his first kill. At least, the first time they fully went to someone with the intention to kill, with a clearer mind.
I think that speaks volumes of how Tomura and Dabi ended up being such villains. And I haven't added the fact that the narrative implies for Toga another killing in an alley, of an older man. I wouldn't be surprised if she was in a similar condition, being called names and such.
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Bring the Fam together
I think it's time you two started getting along. You two are Brothers and you both have suffered at the Hand of the Father. Use that shared suffering to become Good Friends ^7^ And we can take down Endeavor together! @pro-hero-icyhot @dabi-anon
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kiok0-k · 14 hours ago
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Dabi's face as I give him The Gawk Gawk Supreme Vacuum Seal Double Twisty Suction Pump Soul Snatcher Combo 5000:
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krokonoko · 5 months ago
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let me tell you the story of a man.
he’s a powerful super hero who half the world looks up to for guarding and guidance.
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this man has a son/protégé who he specifically made to be his successor.
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he purposefully arranges it so the boy inherits his powers.
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he trains him hard to take his place, and through action and words makes it clear that this is how the boy can earn his recognition.
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but it turns out that the powers don’t work the same for the protégé as the man. they end up hurting, even disfiguring the boy every time he uses them.
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what starts out as the boy trying to prove himself…
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turns into the boy spiralling into physical and psychological self-destruction.
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the man tries to keep the protégé from continuing down this path
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but he has lit these feelings inside his protégé a long time ago.
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and it’s too late to the say the words the boy needed to hear all this time ago.
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now the question is, can someone help the boy snap out of this self-destructive death spiral?
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or will the story end with
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spidertams · 3 months ago
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"a dance with your son, here, in hell"
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Even if you think they deserve to be saved, I don't think they're entitled to relationships with any of the heroes. It's one sided and enables them to think they're okay to harm people because of their problems
Wait, give me a minute, I'm having trouble understanding this asks.
So I'm gonna asume you're talking about the villains and how their relationship with the heroes would allow fhmw to harm other people? Because that means they can hurt other people because of their problems?
Anon, you got it wrong.
First of all, I don't want all the villains to get saved, because not all of them want to be saved. Deku tried to save Muscular, but he only wanted to kill and destroy, so unless he changes his mind no one could help him. The same with Overhaul, who is still holding onto his obsession and doesn't want to change.
Now, when it comes to other villains like Toga, Dabi and Tomura, healthy relationships with family, friends or other types are exactly what they need to change. Why them and the others I mentioned no? Because what Tomura, Toga and Dabi need is a healthy way of processing their trauma and more than anything, change. Dabi needs a healthy way to deal with his anger with his father and society, but society also needs to change, because we can see how Endeavor hasn't change and the people just doesn't care that much about what he did to his son.
See, if you deny a person who has been traumatized and has a story of choosing violent ways to deal with that trauma, you're basically putting them between the wall and the sword.
What you do is find a way to reinforce healthy behavior and teach them to become better people.
And it is clearly not one sided. Not when the villains have reached for the heroes and the heroes are starting to do the same. Not when Deku is reaching for Tomura and Tomura reaching for Deku. Not when Ochako and Shouto are currently in an internal struggle to understand Dabi and Toga.
And it doesn't excuse any actions. You're position is too extreme and lets out the nature of things, which are complex and composed by many factors.
Imagine I have a son. Imagine he broke my favorite lamp out of rage, because he was frustrated. What I do is find a way of my son to deal with his frustration in a way it doesn't represent any harm to me or himself first, to avoid him breaking another lamp next time he feels frustrated. Then I let him know I am sad and hurt because it was my favorite lamp, why that's not good. And then I go with him to buy another lamp, or I tecah him how to clean the floor without getting cut.
If I scream at him only, he's gonna break more and more stuff each time. Because I'm not giving him any option. That will break slowly through time my relationship with him, the trust, the feeling of safety. He's not gonna change alone. He's gonna start thinking "my mom is awful so she deserves me to be violent”.
This is an extreme case, but it illustrates my point. And I'm using a kid example because the behavior Toga, Tomura and Dabi are showing is a result of extensive abuse in their childhood, along with absent parenting.
Enji didn't stick around to gently explain to Touya why using his quirk until it burned him was wrong. He didn't teach Touya any other way of letting his anger out, never worked on the relationship with his son so the kid would know Enji was not dissapointed, Touya had no less value for not being able to use that much his quirk.
You know why? Because Enji was dissapointed and also didn't care that much about his child. Touya ended up burning, almost giving his life, because he wanted to have a relationship with his dad, a good one.
Kotaro also denied Tenko, to the point Tenko though Kotaro hated him. But Kotaro was strict enough that Tenko never asked. Kotaro just refused to look truly at his son, blinded by his own trauma. Kotaro didn't sit with his children to explain why he found being a hero so dangerous, never worked on a real relationship with his son, not one based on fear and hatred and intimidation.
Tenko's quirk was triggered by his hurt. With a better environment, maybe Tenko's quirk could have been activated when he touched a simple object, and his feeling wouldn't be strong enough for him to decay his entire house. Don't forget also that Kotaro hit Tenko once more before dying. His son was reaching for him for safety and Kotaro told him to stop it and hit him. So rejection and violence is clearly not the way to help Tenko.
And with Toga, we saw how she in a very innocent very naive way showed her quirk to her parents. They didn't explain why it was wrong to drink from others, they just shut her down and told her to hide it. They didn't gave her another alternative. They didn't teach her, just like Enji and Kotaro never taught Touya and Tenko.
Toga is still struggling with her identity and her place in the world. She's a normal teenager questioning herself and the world, but because she didn't get the proper education on time, because she was told to just shut her quirk down, now she's just against the world to make a place for her. Her parents were scared and horrified of her, she was living a lie. She had then no connections with other people.
Until now, no one took the time to taught Tomura, Dabi or Toga how to deal healthy with their emotions. Even worst, AFO taught Tomura every destructive way and presented that like the right way. And that extended through Tomura to Toga and Dabi. The one who was enabling the idea that it was okay to kill and destroy was AFO.
Toga, Tomura and Dabi won't change without help. They need love, they need connections, they need a place in society, they need to interact, to learn and grow. The are children in the sense that their traumas took a great part of their lives. And they are not the only ones: Shouto had to deal with using his fire side, Deku to stop destroying his own body, Iida with his morality, Momo with her insecurities, Ochako with her values as a hero, Bakugou with his anger...
What the young villains of the League are showing us nothing alien or strange. They are just doing it in a very violent way because is what they know. They come for violent homes, violent years, living on the streets, growing up with other villains.
So they are entitled. The heroes are a representation of the State and the law, the good things. If the villains are not entitled to have relationships with the heroes, less alone with the citizens. And that means they are once more isolated and it took us right back at the beginning, with the League fighting for people to acknowledge them, to listen to them, to be a part of society.
If what you said is true, then they all are doomed from the start. And I personally find that rather sad for every character in bnha.
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shrublike · 7 months ago
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observations were made, points were not, but she seems chuffed nonetheless -w-
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kimboltart · 9 months ago
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I had a dream that this happened so I decided to draw it out.
(though I couldn't quite figure out what I wanted the last quote to be).
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wrongmha · 3 months ago
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I just want to say it's been an honor to be unhinged with all of you.
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