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transmascrage · 2 years
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You know, I haven't read "Manhunt" and I don't intend to, I think framing testosterone as making you a monster is insensitive to transmascs.
However, I watched a video essay on it, and some of the points that the creator makes are enlightening.
She mentions how TERFs, as much as they hate the patriarchy, almost see it as something that can never change for the better. Because it's overwhelming and pervades every aspect of our lives.
Hence, the belief that men are inherently bad and the only way to eliminate misogyny is to kill men and set up a matriarchy.
So instead of fighting to change society with education and siding with trans people, they pick on us because we're an easier target than the whole patriarchy.
Here's the link to the video. Massive trigger warning because it covers heavy topics and mentions extreme violence towards transfems (perpetuated by TERFs or literal quotes of TERFs threatening violence).
It's a really good watch, though.
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transinclusionary · 2 years
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I'm hoping that terf I saw who said that men can't experience racism is having an awful night
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venisonghost · 2 years
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I wonder what terfs think of feminine trans men. Like I know what they think of masculine trans women but they always ask "why can't you just let girls be masculine" I Don't Want To Be. What would they think about that
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emoji-shitposts · 2 years
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The only thing I can think of that that anon might be talking about is the version of the gay/mlm flag you've used? Though that would be lesbiphobia, not transmisogyny, because afaik the creator is lesbiphobic. Unless they've been transmisogynistic in the past and I just never heard about it bc the antiblackness and lesbiphobia were the primary focus.
the mlm/gay/vincian flag i use was made by pride-color-schemes and @gayflagblog, as far as i can tell, both the racism and lesbiphobia accusations were false and based on a whole series of misunderstandings. And yeah, I couldn't find any evidence of them being transmisogynistic.
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beezlebutch · 2 years
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Why is it so hard to find woman punk/hardore bands that don't have terf shit? I'm jamming to a song and then say something about penises being inheritly evil, goddamnnit
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0w0tsuki · 5 months
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Hey can we stop pretending like the only feasible reason that a trans woman would not like the term femboy is because she's some puritan anti-kinkster or somehow against men being able to dress femininely?
Like perhaps maybe the group of people who had to go through a phase of having to figure out and explore their femininity while being perceived by society as a man DON'T WANT to police the way men are able to present and express their genders? Like maybe WE DON'T want to make things even harder for transfem eggs. Like maybe we might have an interest in protecting transfem eggs and are speaking from the harm that we experienced as eggs ourselves?
Like maybe it might have to do with the fact that outside of Tumblr your average femboy is a trap fetishist? Like did we all forget the memes of "trying to figure out if the Astofolo icon is a trans woman or a fascist?"
Like some of us were discovering our transness during puberty in the early 2000s. You remember the early 2000s right? Where South Park and Family were at the height of their cultural influence, the R slur was a substitute for stupid, and bigotry was so common that "traps are gay" jokes could be made in polite company without having to worry about backlash. So imagine what kink spaces were like. Especially when you're a teenage trans girl just discovering herself.
I personally was so damaged by that experience that I began to believe that my gender-no my EXISTENCE was a fetish to be embarrassed and humiliated by and to be reviled for. I genuinely did not engage in relationships because I believed I was going to have to give in and tell them that they fell in love with a sex object. I did not believe that I was worthy of love. And it took YEARS of working through that for me to be comfortable with transitioning.
And after I worked through that I still have to deal with them. They haven't left kink communities they had their roots in. To this day there's a kink website I frequent that has community suggestions for tags IE: Unless the OP of the work goes back to delete this feature, anyone can "recommend" deletions or additions to the tags of the work. This is in place to make the proper labeling/searching/blacklisting of kinks easier to help curate content. In practice though it allows transmisoginists to basically graffiti any transfem artwork they come across. And let me tell you Femboy tags are getting added on right after they replace F/F with M/M on a transbians t4t work. And it happens so frequently that I have to check in about once a month to these trans tags to inform the most recent victim about what's happened to their works.
And outside of kink spaces I go into fandom spaces where I have had to deal with trap fetishists positioning themselves as fucking lore scholars when they harass trans positive folks about the Correct and Moral gender of the transmisoginistic character that they've got a fap folder dedicated. I got to see someone rise to twitch fame off the back of trap content turn into a “femboy icon” because he gave some of the trap money to trans charities and has a trans girlfriend. Who is still making trap content by the way.I've gotten to see reddit lose their absolute goddamn minds when the term Trap was banned from r/anime, shitting themselves so hard about it that they made their own separate website with transmisogynistic wojaks on the home page and everything. And then I got to see the fucking Bridget Debacle.
The reason I always talk about Bridgets trans confirmation is that it's the most widely recognized recent event where the exact shit I'm talking about was on full display. The reason why her being confirmed as a trans woman was such a big deal for trans girls was not just because she was one of the anime caricatures with her own folder in the trap enthusiasts masterbation portfolio. It was because she was GROUND ZERO for original coining of the word trap. And the EXACT same guys who deemed her a trap were now coming out in DROVES fuck EN MASS. But this time as self appointed femboys. We had so many examples of fucking Astofolo icon twitter facists trying to drudge up any type of left sounding argument using the femboy identity after having their initial arguments revolving around mistranslation were debunked. Crying that transfems were “stealing femboy representation” and trying to say that it was an “antitransmasculization force feminization trope” ironically. You know the cry of “Let men be feminine!!!!” y'all always bring out in defense of femboys. THAT'S who you're parroting! THAT'S who you got it from! We have had direct evidence of former trap fetishists dawning the term femboy when it became less cool to be openly transmisogynistic and then started appropriating leftist language to give their transmisogynistic arguments an air of legitimacy.
Like y'all need to understand that this magical space we got here is a FUCKING BUBBLE. Femboy communities in literally every other online space are former trap/sissy communities and are fucking cess pits of transmisoginy. I have seen posts by people who's only experience being around femboys was on Tumblr go out and check a place like r/mildfemboys to be horrified by the obsessiveness of the transmisogyny the femboys they interact with. And the femboys here aren't much better by treating being forced to acknowledge that these people exist and that is a still very active part of their community even if they don't personally interact with it as a personal attack on them and their gender presentation.
Y'all just want to pretend it doesn't exist and treat the idea that a Transfem might not WANT to interact with YOU(OH GOSH!!) because of it like it's some sort of personal judgement instead of something you're just going to have to accept happens when there's a large portion of people who share that title who are responsible for traumatizing them. But y'all got to go one step further. Y'all who go on about how femboys are our closest allies and about how “femboys and transfems are actually closer than transfems want to admit”. Y'all treat femboys like they're out little fucking brother in the queer community and it's our personal fucking responsibility to leave behind any personal baggage at the door in order to make them feel welcome.
Y'all can't handle the fucking idea that a trans woman might not be comfortable with sharing community with someone who's average member would call her a trap while jacking off to her selfies if he thought he could get away with it. That's she's not interested in playing the Astofolo icon game with them. Y'all gotta create a backwards narratives where she is against her own interests, where she is for making it harder for eggs in the future instead of you know. Asking for better from the communities those eggs are drawn too.
I have been forced to fucking put up with femboys in nearly every online space I've ever been in. And I
Am sick and fucking tired
Of putting up with femboys
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jasminetea1123 · 11 months
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This pride month if you want to be an ally to trans women stop doing discourse with terfs. Don't post about them, don't dunk on them, don't do shit. Block them, forget they exist. We will never know peace from this shit, but y'all can be allies and help.
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pennypalblorkposts · 3 years
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ppl who go "um well some ppl have trauma around x genitalia" when you go "if you dont wanna date trans ppl thats really weird" are weird as fuck lol!
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juicy-agender · 3 years
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Quick reminder that this is what Trans exclusionary, Radical Feminist ideals are heading towards.
Someone who is a TERF may not personally want this but this is what they are helping push, there is no denying that.
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britishdisasters · 3 years
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This is such a controversial take but here we go!:
Whenever I see someone defining a lesbian or lesbian attraction as “women and non-binary people” or “nonmen”, I have a lot of questions as to the true meaning.
Does your “women and non-binary people”/“nonmen” include AMAB non-binary people?
What about butch presenting trans women?
Does it include AMAB non-binary people who have chosen not to medically transition?
Does it include AFAB non-binary people who have chosen to do a “full” ftm transition and now have what would be considered “male” bodies?
Does it include masc-aligned non-binary people? What about masc aligned AMAB non-binary people (demi-men and such)?
Does it include AMAB non-binary people who choose to present in a traditionally male way?
How do you feel about trans men? Does how you feel about trans men depend on if they’ve medically transitioned or not?
etc…
A lot of the time it feels like when people say “women and non-binary people” what they really mean is AFAB/“female” looking people.
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ceooflamp · 2 years
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Okay so I'm seeing a rise of a very particular type of posting lead by TMEs that's really getting under my skin and i want to address it. I am TME myself so i can't speak for people affected by transmisogyny, but I feel like i should say SOMETHING at the very fucking least.
Okay so i keep seeing a term called "Transandrophobia" thrown around and i guess it seems inconspicuous (it really isn't though), but then it's usually always paired with "transmisandry" which literally doesn't fucking exist for one, but for two it insinuates that TMAs are oppressors of TMEs which is not the case.
Discussing the demonization of masculinity and perceived masculinity or misogyny they experience is something that many of these TMEs focus on too, but they do it in a way that completely leaves TMAs out of the discussion despite TMAs being specifically effected by BOTH of these things.
I don't want any transfems to get harassed from this post, so I'm making sure names are not mentioned. I will however not blur out the blog who made the post. At this point i know you all don't really go out of your way to harass TMEs in these situations also this person is very much a perpetrator of transmisogyny so I don't feel the need to.
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[ID: Tumblr user transgentleman-luke says "So are we ready to talk about transandrophobia being encouraged by big-name transfeminine authors yet? Censored name's latest essay was pretty decent- until she decided to include the hashtag #NotAllTransGuys in one of her paragraphs, in which she insinuates that trans men speaking about their experiences with misogyny are being transmisogynistic by… speaking about what we have faced." There is a screenshot of the transfem's article it reads "understandable (if infuriating) that some trans male/masculine people may play up their female socializations and the misogyny they've experienced in the past in order to cast themselves as victims of the patriarchy, without realizing that this particular framing insinuates that trans female/feminine people are the patriarchy" End ID]
I'm not going to spend the rest of the post using screenshots of what he (the Tumblr user) said because he goes on for the whole post focusing on this one paragraph because this transfem author didn't word some things right. But literally all the author is pointing out is that TMEs often use what misogyny they have and do experience to completely disregard transmisogyny or act as though they are just as effected as TMAs by misogyny which is very much not the case. And to top it, yes TMEs do insinuate that TMAs are the patriarchy just because TMEs are effected by patriarchy too. The term transmisandry being used alongside transandrophobia makes that very fucking evident, because misandry is women holding power over men, and therefore this frames TMAs as the oppressors. And so does transandrophobia.
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ojibwa · 2 years
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hey just so you're aware, wtxch is terf-associated; she's made terfy posts before (they've been deleted, but if you search "wtxch terf" or something it should be pretty easy to find)
i just saw this today but tysm for telling me <3 i didnt check my inbox for literal months so sorry
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transinclusionary · 2 years
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Lol trans people are good on rights. They’re aren’t oppressed.
Oh shiit better go tell my best friend that, I'm sure she would love to hear that all the looks she gets at work are actually.....them admiring her? So stupid I can't even entertain this, you should feel bad about this take
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kurgy · 2 years
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terfs are so funny when you bring up their blatant support of patriarchal beauty standards and white supremacy
Theyre like "You're just mad we can see your Adam's apple" after claiming they can "clock a trans person from 100 miles away" and I'm like. You can see my new Adam's apple?
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emoji-shitposts · 2 years
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not saying its because you are but fwiw its not a very good look for a transmasc person to claim theyre incapable of being transmisogynistic
I kinda forgot that any transmasc even would be transmisogynistic when i was saying that tbh
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lilycove · 3 years
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i doubt i have many muts/followers that are asmr consumers but just as a general heads up elise asmr is a terf (interviewed & gave a platform to an open radfem a while back and still doubles down on defending that choice and the person in question when people are like dude what the fuck) So. that is a good channel to avoid, if you watch asmr
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