with the news of the people dying at a Travis Scott concert while he did essentially nothing, i felt it necessary to list as many examples as possible of how easy it is for a band to control its fans when shit is getting out of control
While on tour in Australia, for the 2013 Soundwave festival, Chester Bennington of Linkin Park stops mid-song to help a fan who had been knocked out.
Zach de la Rocha of Rage Against The Machine stops a show in Arizona to condemn sexual harassment happening in the crowd
Corey Taylor while on tour with his band Stone Sour stops a show in Australia because of an injury, telling the crowd to back up
Chevelle tells man in the crowd at a show to stop pepper spraying people who were just enjoying the show
Kurt Cobain and the rest of Nirvana during a 1993 New Years Eve concert in California tell off a fan for sexually assaulting a woman in the crowd, and proceed to make fun of him
Layne Staley of Alice In Chains punches and slaps a nazi at a 1993 show in Sweden after the man caused trouble in the crowd. Layne then says "fucking Nazis die."
There are so many videos of Billie Joe Armstrong saving fans at shows, they can be put into this six-minute compilation
M. Shadows helps a passed out fan during the 2018 Graspop Metal Meeting, instructing the crowd to give them room
Dexter Holland, singer for skate punk band The Offspring, tells the crowd of Woodstock '99 not to sexually harass the women crowd surfing
Five Finger Death Punch reunite a lost little girl with her mother during the 2016 Chicago Open Air Festival
there are literally hundreds of videos of the proper protocol when there's a situation at your show-- ignoring it isn't one of them. fuck you Travis Scott.
I haven't seen a ton of stuff on Tumblr about the Astroworld fatalities, which is awful because it was such a tragic disaster and people in power are trying very, very hard to sweep it under the rug (see this removed video). It's also being grossly misinterpreted.
I refuse to believe that Astroworld demonstrates that we are all animals at heart or that celebrity culture corrupted every person. First, this was not a stampede-- it was a crowd crush. Someone in a crowd crush has no idea what is happening towards the front and is helpless to move. Crowd crushes are largely the fault of poor crowd organizing/management. Some of the people in the crowd were assholes-- those who stormed the gates, danced on ambulances, etc. Most of them were just caught up in a press of bodies.
Travis Scott is not an innocent party here. He encouraged fans storming the gates and has been charged twice before in 2015 and 2017 for inciting hysteria at his shows. He encouraged violence against a kid in 2015 while crowd-surfing for allegedly trying to steal his shoe and at another show told fans to jump from a balcony-- fans later suffered serious injuries. He encouraged fans to flip off security trying to break up to the crowd and get to injured people. He has a history of being awful to security. I hate cops as much as anyone, but security guards aren't cops. They're just some guys who are getting paid a shit wage to prevent people from getting hurt. You're not standing up to the "man" by being a dick to security at a concert any more than you would be for getting tossed out of a bar by a bouncer for being drunk and disorderly. You're just being an asshole.
Travis Scott encourages people to "rage" at his shows with no care for the consequences. Well, that's just a mosh pit, right? Except, punk/heavy metal shows are famously focused on a sense of community and social responsibility. There have literally been scientific studies that demonstrate how focused heavy metal fans are on helping people who fall during shows. However, if you co-opt the goal of a mosh pit as a stress-reliever and/or a way to release anger without the rules of etiquette or citizenship, then you might be Travis Scott you've created an incredibly dangerous situation.
Travis Scott saw an ambulance trying to get through and he didn't stop playing. He saw a fan's lifeless body being carried away and he didn't stop playing. There is no way he couldn't have heard the crowd chanting to stop. This is not normal behavior. Side note: Here are some examples of responsible examples of crowd control behavior from artists who stopped their shows to stop people from getting hurt in no particular order that I found on Reddit in no particular order: Adele, ASAP Rocky, Avenge Sevenfold, The Killers, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Rage Against the Machine, KSI, MCR, this entire compilation).
These artists aren't heroes. They just know that crowd crushes have happened before and are practicing basic human decency.
And there were people who tried to help. If you haven't seen the video of the girl who climbed up on a camera platform or read her account, it's brutal, terrifying stuff. People were chanting to stop the show. This ICU nurse tried to help and documented the severely undetrained staff. Concertgoers did their best to pull others to safety, but the people who were in charge simply did not care.
Remember how when Squid Game came out and people who completely missed the point were talking about how it showed that people were awful and would turn on each other? It's a similar situation here. There were some assholes, but ultimately Travis Scott simply does not care about his fans. He's built his brand on being mysterious and edgy-- he doesn't care who dies for him. And that’s the story, not the entirety of the crowd, but one out-of-touch millionaire celebrity who doesn’t care.
The height of stan culture is saying Travis Scott did nothing wrong when he literally stood on stage and watched the crowd beg for help because people were getting injured and dying, watched paramedics struggle to get through the crowd, and watched the crowd body surf unconscious and/or dead bodies to the paramedics and still didn't stop the show.
There are a lot of people at fault for what just happened at AstroWorld and Travis Scott is one of those people. He has a history of encouraging his fans of bypassing security and rushing the stage. He quite literally wants you all to get hurt or killed.
Get a life and stop defending celebrities, especially the ones who like to watch as you take your last breath.
I saw someone on tiktok talk about concerts and artists’ responsibilities and how security measures and people’s attitude must change for things like what happened at travis scott’s festival to never happen again and then right after I saw another video of a girl saying “in the future when you buy a ticket watch them put on a waiver saying that anything that happens at the concert is gonna be on you” and honestly it made me realize that the world can really go both ways and it’s fucking scary
I'm so disgusted by the events that went down Friday at Astroworld. It's a prime example of how ruthless the American people have become.
You mean to tell me that people were getting trampled to death and the crowd ignored them and continued to "rage" on top of their dead bodies.
People were struggling for their lives. Every video that I have seen has been of people being pressed up against each other like a can of sardines, unable to move or get away from the crowd surge.
Firstly, there is a pandemic still happening so why are music festivals going on?!?! (ACL I'm looking at you too). Secondly, you're going to tell me that Travis Scott had no idea what was happening? Nahhh.
He locked eyes with an ambulance numerous times and also watched as people were being carried off, uncouncious, and he continued to sing and dance? People came onto stage to tell him what was happening and he shooed them away. The camera operators were told and they ignored everything. The crowd booed other fans as they screamed for help and yelled out that people were dying. What. The. Hell.
Everyone should be held accountable for this, including Travis Scott.
&& before I get those "how could he even know?" statements, listen... multiple videos have surfaced of other artists stopping their concerts because they saw people passing out or getting trampled (Billie, Harry, Adele, Linkin Park, ASAP, Post Malone) . On top of this... Travis has been arrested before for ensuing violence at festivals (Lalapalooza) and he has told people to jump a fan when they took his shoe.
Ultimately Travis Scott should have been more responsible on Friday and stopped the show for at least 30 minutes so that everyone could calm down, breathe and reset themselves. If he would have done that, who knows, maybe people would still be alive.
As of today 8 people have died.
It's heartbreaking and devastating.
Rip to everyone who lost their lives on Friday night, you didn't deserve what happened to you. 💗💜
For an artist to stand there and continue to sing his shitty little song whilst watching lifeless bodies be pulled out of the crowd and fans to say he was right in doing so is fucking madness. Do you actually hear yourself? That’s not normal behaviour. I don’t give a shit what drugs are in your system or how shocked you were by what you were seeing - listening to the crowd scream for help and watching people die but not doing anything about it when you literally have the power to shut it all down and make sure people are safe is fucking disgusting.