#trojan women

[pelideswhore]

petition to change “written by a woman” into “written by euripides”

#no one understands women the way this man understands women and i stand by this #greek mythology #greek myth #euripides #trojan women #clytemnestra #medea #women of troy #aphrodite #cassandra of troy #<- just to name a few. this man is a genius.

[antsinpants09]

Euripides count your days

#tagamemnon #trojan women #Andromache #euripides #thinking about this all the time #everyday I think about Trojan women #the iliad

[secretceremonials]

- just a girl x the women of the trojan war

#absolutely obsessed with Florence’s cover #no doubt #just a girl #florence + the machine #the Trojan women #trojan women #polyxena #helen of troy #Cassandra #Cassandra of Troy #Hecuba #briseis #art #pre raphaelite #lyrics #web weaving

[katerinaaqu]

In the tragedy written by Eurypedes called "Trojan Women" it was implied that Astyanax was not killed during the pilgrim of Troy but after a long conference with the Greek kings that needed to decide what to do with the heir of Troy.

In the tragedy Andromache was supposed to be taken by Neoptolemus as his priced woman without being decided by luck. During her waiting of her faith she asks Talthybius the messenger of the Greeks about her son and the man is unwilling to answer at first. Andromache feared her son would be sold to a different master but then Talthybius revealed that the baby would be thrown off the walls. What is more in this tragedy is Odysseus the one who persuaded the Greeks that they couldn't raise him and that he had to be killed.

Now personally I am more keen on some of the versions related to the Epic Cycle in which Astyanax was killed during the heat of the war and not after a calm discussion (since the manner of his death also implies something impulsive like who needs hours of conference to throw a baby off a wall?!) Much more that Odysseus actually speaking of throwing babies off walls when he left a baby back home? Even if one says he was feeling vindictive against Troy that kept him away from home that is way too much in my opinion especially after calm discussion.

Odysseus here is basically used as a symbol for what happens under the table at war. He is used by Eurypedes as the symbol of the unethical and indirect sides of war outside glorious battles but rather the scheming part that people forget

However the moment when Andromache runs to grab her son in desperation and she is advised to be strong like a queen and accept it is just heartbreaking 🥺😭

#odysseus #greek mythology #the odyssey #the iliad #iliad #andromache #astyanax #trojan war #Eurypedes #trojan women #massacre of troy #tagamemnon #odypen

[sarafangirlart]

what's your take on the "if it's not explicit, it didn't happen" or "well, the male character said he likes her" kind of interpretation when it comes to the rape of women taken as war prizes? lately i have seen the argument that agamemnon cannot have raped chryseis and cassandra because the text does not make this explicit and he praises both of them. i saw the same kind of argument with briseis and achilles using as an argument what he said in book ix about loving her the way menelaus and agamemnon love their wives

The thing is, slavery was viewed differently back in the day, ppl knew it sucked being a slave but they also viewed it as a normal natural part of life, ppl couldn’t comprehend a world without slavery even in Aristophanes’s The Birds the utopian Cloud cuckoo land still had slaves. The thing is you’ll see some instances of slaves being treated well by the “good guys” and treated badly by the “bad guys” (if you can even call them that but an example of a slave being treated badly by an antagonist is Dirce and Antiope).

Agamemnon and Achilles treating the women they keep as slaves “nicely” doesn’t mean that these women weren’t still very much slaves, or that they weren’t kidnapped or their families weren’t murdered, or even that they weren’t raped, sure you can water it down in a retelling (lord knows these women need a break and that times have changed and ppl nowadays won’t react positively to protagonists who own ppl) but these men still very much don’t really love these women especially with how Achilles nearly ditches Briseis.

That’s not even to mention how Agamemnon flat out refused to return Chryseis to her father even tho if he really cared about her he would, even Hades let Persephone go.

#greek mythology #ancient greek mythology #greek pantheon #agamemnon #achilles #Briseis #chryseis #Trojan women #Trojan war #Iliad #the odyssey #the iliad #Homer

[contrapposthoe-blog]

this may be controversial but ENOUGH with atemporal settings in theatre especially ancient theatre…get medea in a historically accurate bronze age σκηνή or get OUT. i’m putting lysistrata in woodstock in 1969 and there’s nothing you can do about it. cowards. set antigone in occupied 1940s france! set hecuba in scotland during the jacobite risings! set the bacchae in the hamptons during prohibition! it’s so much more fun to have a TIME and a PLACE to play with if i see another greige set i will lose my mind. this is especially criminal for electra…she can go anywhere…

#i tweeted this but i need it here in long form #i’m right about electra though. consider the possibilities #thatcher-era mining town #imperial austria #modern day san fransico #anyway #put those girls in a setting god damn you #it’s much more fun that way #i did my lysistrata flower power make love not war style #and played cream and rolling stones where the chorus was meant to be #and gave the girls bongs and flares and afghan coats #teehee #lysistrata #antigone #medea #although my medea was. atemporalish. admittedly. #she was in bce corinth to ME. to me. #electra #hecuba #trojan women #euripides #sophocles #classics #translation #ancient theatre #🪞

[elektrascreaming]

something something about astanyx being called scamandrius and him being washed in the Scamander to heal the wounds on his dead body (Trojan Women, Euripides)

#homer #the iliad #greek mythology #trojan war #astanyx #andramache #hekabe #hektor #hector of troy #Priam #odysseus #Ulysses #scamandrius #euripedes #trojan women

[coloricioso]

Bring the light, uplift and show its flame! I am doing the god's service, see! see! making his shrine to glow with tapers bright. O Hymen, lord of marriage! blessed is the bridegroom; blessed am I also, soon to wed a princely lord in Argos. Hail Hymen, lord of marriage! Since you, my mother, are busied with tears and lamentations in your mourning for my father's death and for our country dear, I at my own nuptials am making this torch to blaze and show its light, giving to you, O Hymen, giving, O Hecate, a light, at the maiden's wedding, as the custom is. - O mother, crown my head with victor's wreaths; rejoice in my royal match; lead me and if you find me unwilling at all, thrust me there by force; for if Loxias is indeed a prophet, Agamemnon, that famous king of the Achaeans, will find in me a bride more vexatious than Helen. For I will slay him and lay waste his home to avenge my father's and my brothers' death. Euripides - The Trojan Women

INKTOBER 2022 - Day 1: Cassandra

Cassandra is not only related to Apollo, but also to chthonian deities. Like Persephone she plays the archetype of Bride to Death, and here, mimicking marriage rituals (use of torches and singing nuptial hymns) she announces how her union/marriage with Agamemnon will bring his death.

#she is wearing mycenaean clothes but ignore that xDDD #Cassandra #Casandra #trojan women

[pages-and-potatoes]

Mother, crown my hair with flowers of war.

We’re winning! That’s what the blood star sings.

Look at him! Mars is winking at us. Troy’s his meat and drink—

—we’re dripping down his chin

Like melted lard.

A blood-red eye in the sky

A Cyclops in love with disaster—

I’m so happy I could die.

- Christine Evans, Trojan Barbie

#I miss Cassandra #seven years later and I can still do her lines #such a gorgeous play #Trojan Barbie #Christine Evans #trojan women

[marshmyers]

Here is the story of the Iliad as we've never heard it before: in the words of Briseis, Trojan queen and captive of Achilles. Given only a few words in Homer's epic and erased mainly by history, she is a pivotal figure in the Trojan War. In these pages, she comes entirely to life: wry, watchful, forging connections among her fellow female prisoners even as she is caught between Greece's two most powerful warriors.

https://bookshop.org/a/95413/9780525564102

#pat barker #the silence of the girls #trojan war #trojan women #ancient greece #ancient greek #greek myths #classical mythology #ancient greek mythology #the illiad

[readinthedarkpod]

We're a movie podcast now.

B: The end of the film ends on Irene Papas's face. And so in this moment she's Clytemnestra, she knows of the big, like, terrible lie and crime that her husband has committed by sacrificing their daughter. And it is like, by far, the best moment of acting ever. Because you can see on her whole face that she's planning Agamemnon's murder when he returns home from the war ten years later.

Iphigenia (1977) dir. Michael Cacoyannis

Click here to find out where you can listen to the full episode (spoiler alert: anywhere podcasts are!)

#Rosanna Bruno #Anne Carson #Strange The dreamer #laini taylor #euripedes #the trojan women #trojan women #graphic novels #books #bookblr #book podcast #podcast #book recs #iphigenia #irene papas

[secretceremonials]

lieee, tori amos x women of the Trojan war

captive andomache, frederic leighton// helen of troy, evelyn de morgan// cassandra, frederick sandys// the anger of achilles, jacques-louis david// death of polyxena, paul-françois quinsac

#slowly turning all the songs on my Trojan women playlist into posts #web weaving #tori Amos #lieee #Trojan war #women of troy #Trojan women #andromache of troy #Andromache #helen of sparta #helen of Troy #helen #cassandra of troy #Kassandra of troy #Cassandra #Kassandra #iphigenia #iphigenia at aulis #polyxena #polyxena of troy #Greek mythology #art

[kashilascorner]

Read in 2023: Trojan Women (Seneca; trans. Emily Wilson)

"If you hunger for life, abandon hope. If you worry, let go fear.

Hungry time and emptiness devour us."

#books in 2023 #seneca #trojan women #litedit #blood // #i loved this one and oh did i cry. i cried so much

[sarafangirlart]

Who is the most tragic Greek mythological character?

Andromache 100%

Andromache had her entire family as well as her in-laws killed or enslaved, her rapist killed her child and then forcefully impregnated her, only to not defend her or their child from his wife’s abuse.

#greek mythology #ancient greek mythology #greek pantheon #andromache of troy #hector and andromache #hector of troy #Andromache #greek tragedy #Troy #trojan women #trojan war

[ala-chrisgoods]

I read Euripides' play*the Trojan women* and......no I can't describe it when Hecuba mourn his grandson(and she mourn her son (Hector's shield finally become the poor little boy's coffin))

well......I get hurt on my face last week I'm taking rest so I used the ipad note instead of procreate

哎呦这特洛伊妇女给我看得特别特别伤心，特别是说那个盾牌上面的指痕很可爱汗渍很可爱，好崩溃！这两天摔着了不想画画（懒惰）

#the iliad #trojan war #hector of troy #troy #iliad #trojan women

[elektrascreaming]

astanyx oh god oh god

#homer #the iliad #trojan women #seneca #euripedes #the odyssey #greek mythology #trojan war #agamemnon #hekabe #andromache #hecuba #Helen of spatta #helen of sparta #hektor of troy #priam