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xmaruu11 · 2 years

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cBeeduo and Parenting, an analysis

Question:

Do you think being parents is a good fit to their character?

YES ABSOLUTELY YES! there's so many reasons why them forming a family makes so much sense, but the most obvious ones is that for the first time in what we see, they are able to realize and see everything that made them who they are and what they want the future to be. They both know how fucked up and how messed up the world was for them, and with Michael we see how that is finally hitting them. And because of that, they will do anything to keep him safe, but also let him learn about life on his own. I say this last part cuz it was confirm canon that both beeduo spend time with him and go on walks and are actually very lovable parents.

When it comes to parenting I do think its super interesting to think about how they are as characters. I think Tubbo is more of a "respect the rules" parent and Ranboo is more a permissive parent. However they are both good in their own way.

When I say Tubbo is more of a "respect the rules", I mean it in the most positive and healthy way. He was raised like that and he is a person that follows rules constantly. However, he would never let Michael feel like he is not being heard, like he often felt like. So I imagine Tubbo is more of a parent who listens to his kid so that way, the kid knows their opinion matters and they end up respecting the adult as well in the process. Mutual respect.

For example, if it's bath time and Michael is doing his own stuff, he would let Michael know its bath time but not force him to go, rather, he will phrase it in the sense that it's still something Michael needs to do, but he still has a say in the matter. If Michael is busy playing or reading, Tubbo would say "after you finish what you're doing, it's bath time" and then ask him "do you want me to take some of your toys so you can play there". Bath time is still an obligation, but Michael has still some control on the situation to make it more enjoyable for himself.

When I say Ranboo is more of a permissive parent, I do say he is more of the one that spoils Michael the most, cuz that's how he shows affection and that he cares for people. If Michael wants a cookie, he gives it to him. I would say Ranboo is "the poster dad", nothing bad, a lot of kids like him... because he is more permissive and lets them do what they want. Ranboo doesn't have a spine with adults, do you think he will have one with kids /lh.

He is also the one that when a kid makes a mess or gets overwhelmed, instead of walking them through and let them do it, he walks them through but does it himself. Let's put as an example, Michael makes a mess and spills his cocoa milk everywhere, what Ranboo does it's, first, comfort Michael and tell him everything is okay, that he isn't in trouble. Then what he does is that he makes Michael stay there and explain what to do after something like that happens, but instead of letting Michael do it, he does it himself and lets Michael watch while he learns.

Both of them have different ways of parenting, and they are both good. I think having a parenting arc was golden for them and makes me so happy /srs

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mashbits · 3 years

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i have many feelings and probably unpopular opinions/views on the bee duo-las nevadas conflict today so here we go, all characters mentions are c! only!

(mostly c!tubbo analysis i’m sorry)

while yes, quackity has every right to be suspicious of the outpost especially when it really was designed to spy on his country, tubbo also has every right to build there. because quackity never specified he was going to expand on that land. more so, tubbo had every right to be suspicious of las nevadas and want to see what’s going on, because he himself knows just how incredibly dangerous new things on the smp can be.

tubbo obviously wants to trust quackity and believe there’s nothing sketchy going on in las nevada’s, but there’s so much history between them that’s left some serious, albeit unnoticeable, tension against quackity (and most of the server)

he himself said that it was quackity who took part in tubbo’s execution. while many tend to just blame schlatt and techno, most people forget that quackity had so much to do with it as well. while yes, tubbo has forgiven him, who’s to say tubbo isn’t still effected by it. we all know how horrible he is when it comes to expression his emotions/trauma, and his nonchalant attitude towards his own life may come into effect as well.

as well as, while tubbo was president, it was quackity who took charge and bossed tubbo around the most. HE spoke over tubbo, and HE was the one comparing him to schlatt, their shared tormentor during the manburg arc. quackity had to have known how much that would hurt. quackity also suggested execution ranboo just before doomsday, an example of how he had no problem executing tubbo before. quackity is known to manipulate tubbo and put words into his mouth, with how much “i trust you, BUT (insert negative)” quackity threw. quackity also tried to leave l’manburg on doomsday, which obviously hurt tubbo even if he did come back. tubbo standing up to quackity when he felt entirely justified building onto an apparently unclaimed piece of land wasn’t tubbo having any negative intentions or violent thoughts, it was only a teenager who was tired of being bullied and walked all over.

tubbo has every right to be afraid of what quackity in las nevada’s could do. building a spy outpost and calling it a cookie stand is how tubbo, who’s known to go to the extremes when feeling threatened, is entirely justified. because tubbo is afraid of his own projects getting griefed, as demonstrated in the past, him making the outpost so secure is, in tubbo’s traumatized mind, entirely justified. and i agree.

quackity is in his every right to be suspicious and untrusting with the outpost, but he is in no way innocent of tricking people himself. tubbo’s river compromise was completely reasonable.

as well as, i truly believe if quackity had tried talking to the bee duo before instantly starting to build a wall against the other wall, the conflict wouldn’t have been to negative. tubbo felt threatened by the immediate distrust and assumption that they were out to harm las nevadas, when he just wanted to keep an eye out and stay close to people he’s afraid of, to avoid someone else getting hurt. quackity feeling threatened by a supposed cookie store in territory he didn’t officially claim, where the wall wasn’t even being built directly towards las nevadas, felt a bit too extreme.

also, the way quackity would say things like “i’ll ALLOW you to keep the farm” “if you’d asked permission first” and bringing up so much politics, law and terms felt like an adult undermining a child, like he didn’t actually respect tubbo as a person. i’ve noticed a pattern of certain adults treating the minors of the smp as adults who should take the blame for problems that aren’t even their own and then treating them like clueless kids who don’t know what they’re talking about when it’s convenient for them. quackity during tubbo’s presidency, while treating him like a child, put all of the pressure and decisions on him instead of owning up to his own issues. quackity just doesn’t sit right with me, he and wilbur both being extreme manipulators and picking/choosing when they want to treat one of the kids with respect feels incredibly shitty. ALSO also, the fact that quackity kept bringing up jack manifold and associating all of his actions to tubbo also feels very uncomfortable. judging a person by association is toxic and biased, especially since quackity only believed jack manifold to live in snowchester- a place that has been, and tubbo has made this very clear, somewhere that people can go to relax and live peacefully, and conflict-free. tubbo let’s anyone build and reside in snowchester not for money or profit or power, but because he knows there are people on the server who’re tired of feeling threatened. tubbo is in no way responsible for the actions of others associated with him or his home. quackity really liked forgetting that foolish and puffy lived there as well, both of which he trusts (or manipulated into joining las nevadas, moreso foolish, as i’m not too sure where puffy lies).

speaking of foolish, i am :D not okay :D bc i love foolish, he’s my sweet shark god but with how carefree he was about giving away all of snowchester secrets to quackity when tubbo clearly trusted him and welcomed him with open/warm arms, it hurted :’D if quackity finds out about michael because of foolish, and in turn something happens to michael, i will lose it-

i’m not entirely sure what quackity is planning with las nevadas, especially since he’s trying revive schlatt as well, but it isn’t anything good. tubbo has every right to be suspicious. quackity obviously believed that he would be able to take over the conversation and sound like he was in the right/being fair the entire time, and speak over tubbo like always. he tried to as well, and tried to put words into tubbo’s mouth yet again. for someone who’s so obsessed with not repeating history, he definitely loves to let it control him. i’m proud of tubbo for standing his ground.

people assume history will repeat itself, but it only will if you let it take over. quackity wanting las nevadas to not see the fate of l’manburg is going to be its downfall, because quackity didn’t actually learn from history. he’s letting it control him.

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