"Post+ is going to kill Tumblr, it's best to leave now before it gets worse :////"
Veterans who have been on this site for years:
Edit: Post+ is dead, why are y'all still liking this? Don't worry sweethearts it can't hurt you anymore-
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Alright, so tumblr staff is acting like as if we tumblr users have enough money to pay other tumblr users.
tumblr forgets that their user base is basically just a bunch of alley rats huddled around a slice of cheese
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yall said “i cant believe this site is free” too many times
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how about tumblr pays us instead. $4.99 every time the search function doesn't work
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Reblog if you:
have no intention of using Post+ to put your content behind a paywall,
have no intention to pay to unlock any content hidden by Post+ either
I wanna see something.
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Rb if you pinky promise not to join Tumblr+ and won’t hide your content behind a paywall
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Please please please refrain from paywalling any sort of fanfic. The lack of monetary gain from fanfiction is one of the core reasons we are legally allowed to create/share/read it.
Fair Use doesn't entirely hinge on whether or not we are earning money, but it is one of the biggest factors a court will consider.
The OTW (company responsible for our ability to legally create fanfic; also owns Ao3) already does so much for us legally, and we absolutely do not need to make their job any harder.
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Okay I woke up and heard about Tumblr+ and was not happy :(
So I wrote up this thing in like 3 hours with some crappy art and stuff just to get my thoughts out there of some way @staff can actually get some money without using @postplus, as everyone hates it.
If you have some ideas of your own or wanna draw some cursed pins you’d use go ahead!
(ignore all my spelling mistakes please, procreate doesn’t have spell checking)
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A lot of people on this hellsite are young, and are the target audience for this paid Tumblr+ horseshit. I, on the other hand, am a crusty old broad, and have been around the block many times.
A word of warning from this old goat: if you’re considering putting anything that can be construed as involving a Disney intellectual property behind a paywall, don’t. The Mouse doesn’t fuck around. Don’t think, “oh, my work wouldn’t matter” - trust me, it does. They’re ruthless when it comes to protecting their IPs.
From the Dark Ages of 1989 - they went after a daycare chain for painting their characters on walls. They don’t play. It’s not worth it.
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TUMBLR IS LAUNCHING A SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE????? AND YOU CANT COMMENT OR REBLOG THE POST??????? HELLO???
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i KNOW tumblr is on the downhill and isnt financially viable. everyone does, we lost Verizon a billion dollars. this is not a profitable place.
but its got the best structure of any existing platform. no public follower count, easy repost feature, SEVERAL post formats, html editing, easily have multiple pages, customizable blog homes, and it continues to update. idk bout yall but i use the Quick Reblog and Quick Queue features on mobile CONSTANTLY
not to mention the fun little things it does on occasion! april fools games, “pride? in my tumblr?” banners, Answer Time, even a a freaking alternate reality game for Guy Fieri’s birthday just cause some of the staff wanted to!
i know it costs money to do this, and im not surprised that it needs some supplemental income to continue. But this PostPlus idea seems, to me at least, like a TERRIBLE way of going about it.
@staff @support is there any other way that we as users can support yall for a change? even like direct donation, in the style of wikipedia? i cant be alone in the feeling of “if this website needs some money to run, i’d be willing to give”
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can I pay to NOT see some posts
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Breaking down Tumblr’s latest Post+ Statement
In the wake of massive backlash against their new monitization/paywall program, Tumblr staff has given a statement in an attempt to combat one of the major arguments against it: that this would be a nightmare for fan writers and artists who are vulnerable to lawsuits for copyright infringement.
This post was meant to read as “haha, your friendly neighborhood Tumblr staff!” while actually being intentionally vague and misleading. I’ve seen people laughing it off as Tumblr having an idiot for a lawyer, but the post is actually written very cleverly. So let’s break it down:
First off, let’s make one thing clear: this information is coming to you from Tumblr’s lawyer, not yours. Tumblr’s lawyer’s job is to protect Tumblr from legal trouble and is under no obligation to give fair legal advice to Tumblr users or protect them in legal matters.
Notice that they are careful to say that they encourage sharing these works on “the platform” in general, not through the Post+ system. This gives them deniability - they never explicitly encouraged users to post this content on the monetized platform.
Yes, fanfiction and fanart are frequently considered fair use when they are not monetized. And notice in the second sentence, they switch to the much vaguer term “fan work” when claiming that something can be monetized and still fall under fair use. Fan work could refer to something as innocuous as beta reading and other fan work related services. This could also be referring to works in the public domain. Again, they have plausible deniability.
And make no mistake, there is a long, ugly history of fan writers and artists being sued for copyright infringement. It is absolutely not legal to sell, through any means, fanfiction or fan art of copyrighted content.
And here we get to the real heart of the matter. Their TOS has a clause which states that you may not infringe on another person’s copyright. They have now vaguely but deniably suggested that you can monetize your fanart and fanfiction, but whether or not you’re violating fair use “depends.” They won’t give you specifics. Because it does depend - on whether or not the work is copyrighted. But their statement implies that there are special circumstances where the nature of a fan work based on a copyrighted source makes it ‘fair use.’ This is not the case.
Most importantly, when the copyright holder comes to complain, Tumblr will not protect you. They will say that you have violated the TOS by infringing on intellectual property rights, and we never told you to. You’re on your own, kid. I wouldn’t be shocked if this is used as an excuse to withhold your Post+ revenue.
And the DMCA takedown process? That’s just the process for getting the content removed from Tumblr. It doesn’t mention that the copyright holder then has the right to go after you, personally, with a lawsuit to recoup any money you made off your Post+ subscriptions, plus damages to the brand. Tumblr, meanwhile, can keep its cut of your subscriptions because that money was paid to them for hosting the Post+ service, not for the works themselves. And, as an online platform, they are not responsible for the illegal actions of its users beyond complying with DMCA.
This post is malicious and intentionally misleading. They intend to scrape a profit off of fan writers and artists on their way to the courthouse.
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mutuals are not safe either
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Tumblr really believes people will pay for content when they think hitting the reblog button is already too much. I'm laughing.
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As I near 200,000 followers here at fishingboatproceeds, I just wanted to to say…
You must subscribe for $3.99 a month to view the rest of this post
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imagine hooking your bank account up to tumblr, you know, the site where nothing bad has ever happened *coughs* ray bans *coughs*
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