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landonkirbyappreciation · 3 years

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I just really need to see flashbacks of Landon in the prison world. I hate to see him suffer, but I also want to see what he went through and how strong he was.

Like what did he do after he left the note at the gate and put on Hope’s necklaces? Where did he go? What was the first monster he ran into and how did he survive? Where was he sleeping all that time? Was he able to get into the school and sleep in his own room some of the time or was he mostly hiding elsewhere and in the woods? What was he eating? Was he able to get food from inside the school or anywhere else in town?

Just imagine him trying to figure out all those things and trying to survive when he first got there. When did he realize he was going to have to learn how to fight on his own? Imagine him facing all those different monsters and learning how to fight them. And getting hurt to the point where he had to learn to stitch himself up. Imagine what it would have been like for him that first time he had to use a needle to sew his own stitches, and how painful and scary that would’ve been for him. And how desperate and hopeless he would’ve gotten after all that time. Thinking he may never get out and could be stuck there forever. And how exhausted he probably was, never being able to rest with all those threats around him.

And when did he start to become “the hunter”? How did he get that idea and what was that first step he made in starting to disguise himself that way? How did he get his skull mask? Where did he get everything, how did he acquire all of his weapons and all the different bones and things he was wearing? Just how many monsters did he kill? And where did he get that green dust that he used on Cleo? I want to see him finding and learning about all these things.

And I want to see him in the moments when he wasn’t in immediate danger and he could have a moment to rest or think. I want to know what was going on in his mind, and what he wrote in his journal and what he had been feeling throughout his whole time there. I want to see him holding onto Hope’s necklaces, thinking about her and his memories of her, as a way to get through and keep going and still have hope that he could get back to her someday.

And then I want to know what happened when he finally did escape. Leading up to it, when he had shown up after Hope and Lizzie had astral projected there and saw his letter, and he could sense someone had been there. And how he saw the rift and went through, and then when he finally got back only to see Hope with a fake version of him, and how that must have affected him mentally and emotionally. And all he went through after that and what he was doing in the woods all that time.

I just need to see these things, or at least some of them. And we should, because what’s the point of having this huge storyline for Landon if we never get to see any of it? There’s literally so much they should be showing, but we’ve not seen anything. It’s honestly bizarre to me. Landon’s growth and his journey of survival and his trauma needs to be shown. It’s a disservice to his character for it to be ignored and only used for a plot twist and the end goal of him being stronger and able to fight and defend himself. There’s so much more to what he went through that’s more important than that imo. Like in TVD, when we saw Bonnie and her experience alone in the prison world and how it affected her, to the point where she almost took her own life. And Landon no doubt went through things that messed him up too. But since the “finale” is tonight, and the episodes after will probably be focused on wrapping up the rest of the original season 3, we’re probably never gonna know or see any of it because the writers don’t seem to care about that sort of stuff that really matters. It could have been so moving and powerful to see Landon go through all that he did, and I know Aria would’ve been amazing and it could’ve been really intense and emotional. I just truly can’t believe that they wrote this storyline that had so much potential only to waste it and focus only on the end result, while also not addressing Landon’s PTSD (unless that’s coming later, but I’ve lost almost all hope at this point). I just feel like the writers shouldn’t add in big and important storylines like this if they don’t intend on ever exploring them properly. I hope I’ll end up being wrong about all of this, and we’ll still see some of his experiences, but it doesn’t seem likely to me at this point.

#landon kirby #s3 #text #my posts #i won’t be surprised if tonight’s episode doesn’t acknowledge his trauma at all #from the trailer it looks like they just wanna create more unnecessary relationship drama instead #what else is new #and then there will probably be focus on defeating malivore moving forward #no time for all the stuff with landon we missed out on #the fact that the majority of this show has just been one huge waste of potential #i can’t

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salvatoreschool · 4 years

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‘Legacies’ season 2, episode 9 review: ‘I’m THEE…Ted. I’m Ted. Sigh.’

I am so glad that Legacies season 2, episode 9 has brought our Salvatore School crew back. And now that we’ve met the Alyssa Chang, I can’t wait to see what’s next!

Before we took a break for the holidays, we saw Hope return to everyone’s memory, Landon choose to get back together with her, leaving Josie alone, and none other than THE NECROMANCER! was unveiled as the creature beneath the red cloak wreaking havoc in Mystic Falls. For a full refresher on Legacies season 2, episode 8, check out our review.

But now, it’s time to dig into all things Legacies season 2, episode 9, “I Couldn’t Have Done This Without You.”

From ‘Master of Death’ to ice cream scooper

I really didn’t know what I wanted after learning that THE NECROMANCER! was back at the end of the Legacies season 2 midseason finale. I never expected to get an entire episode of Ben Guerens as a completely human, suddenly powerless version of our hell-raiser. This was absolutely freaking delightful, and while I don’t know how long he will continue to be hanging around causing all sorts of trouble, I can’t help but be delighted to have his enthusiasm back.

Watching him take his journey from powerless mortal back to the necromancer he’s always been was interesting, and now I can’t help but wonder what role Chad will be playing as the season rolls forward.

Introducing Alyssa Chang

Is there anyone who wasn’t excited to see Olivia Liang portray Alyssa Chang? We’ve been hearing about her since the pilot, so I was more than excited to finally meet the witchy powerhouse.

I don’t know if I expected to love or hate her, but I find I’m pretty much neither. I’m intrigued by Alyssa Chang. While I wasn’t too happy about her treatment of Hope in regards to the whole roomie thing, I did love how loyal she felt toward M.G. Our favorite, comic-loving vamp needs more people in his corner, especially when the Saltzman twins keep running hot and cold on him all the time. It’s nice to know there’s someone else around to have his back when Kaleb is MIA.

I’m not sure if I love how she set Sebastian up to fail his test, or if I resent her for casting judgement on him before giving him a chance, but, I’m willing to give her loyalty to Lizzie and M.G. the edge here. Maybe it’s the Damon fan in me, but I keep seeing how similar Sebastian’s vibe is to TVD season 1 Damon. He’s just been resurrected after a VERY long dessication, and he’s not the good, kind-hearted vamp at heart. If he sticks around on Legacies, I can see a long and winding road to redemption for him, much like we watched Damon Salvatore tread.

Break-up and make-up awkwardness

It was inevitable that this episode was going to be full of awkwardness, with Josie and Landon still getting past all their break-up awkward, Hope and Josie trying to navigate a world where they both love Landon, and Hope and Landon trying to find their way back to some semblance of the normal they felt in Legacies season 1.

My greatest sympathies lie with Josie, even if I do think that Handon is my couple of the moment. While Hope and Landon are good together, I really do want to see Josie happy, so imagine the size of my grin at the end of this episode where all three parties find ways to bond in their new awkward and put the hard stuff behind them. I was basically brimming with glee whenever they were on screen.

“This is a seminal work of fiction, not something to run your horny clock out.”

I’m glad that M.G. is keeping Lizzie in her place a little. I thought it was cute that she wanted to bond with M.G. over his comics, but when we learned that it was just an effort to distract herself from Sebastian, I quickly turned on her. Not cool, Lizzie. Not cool. (Even if the tie in to the Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover event was super fun to see.)

But, seriously, though. Good on M.G. for standing up for himself and his interests and not allowing her to use him to distract herself. He deserves better, and I’m glad he recognizes that.

Is Landon really powerless?

There was a lot of heavy-handed talk about Landon’s lack of power in Legacies season 2, episode 9. No matter how long Sebastian and him spent together, the ancient vamp could not stop trying to emasculate Landon for being less powerful than Hope.

While I’m really happy that Landon isn’t afraid to be less powerful than his tribrid lady, I can’t help but wonder if we’re being set up for another huge reveal in the second half of season 2. Legacies season 1, episode 13, “The Boy Who Still Has a Lot of Good to Do” was the episode we learned Landon was a phoenix, so could Legacies season 2, episode 13 be when we learn the extent of a phoenix’s powers?

Because there’s got to be more to being a phoenix than just coming back to life. Having a power like that at your fingertips has to mean there’s more he can do. It’s just going to take the perfect set of circumstances to bring forward any other powers he might have boiling under the surface. I’m wondering if there isn’t some healing, superspeed, or SOMETHING else waiting for him to discover.

Is Chad going to be this season’s true hero?

I mean, his introduction, death, and resurrection in this episode has me wondering what role he might play as season 2 goes on. Will he be THE NECROMANCER!’s undoing? Or just a simple, loyal acolyte to the king of the undead? Only time will tell, but I won’t be forgetting him anytime soon, that’s for sure.

Josie’s little premonition

There are exactly three visuals that we see when Josie starts magically messing with the mora miserium. They are: someone smashing the mora miserium in front of a large fireplace, an image of the entire Salvatore School engulfed in flames, and an image of Josie who had clearly gone full Dark Willow. (Like, seriously, the look of it is SO reminiscent of what Willow looked like when she went dark on Buffy the Vampire Slayer.)

I’m curious if this was just the mora miserium trying to convince her to let it out, or whether this was a true sort of premonition of a future that could be if they don’t find a way to get rid of the mora miserium safely.

Friendship restored!

That three-way hug!! I’m really glad that Hope, Josie, and Landon have been able to individually work on their relationships. We saw Hope helping Josie, Josie helping Landon, and Landon leaning on Hope. Everyone is doing the work to get back to the friends they were before all the Malivore-memory-related shenanigans.

I really need Hope and Josie to keep bonding, because I love them having each other to lean on. With all the craziness going on for both of them, it’s really important to me that they have each other to go to in times of trouble, stress, or emotional upheaval.

KYM IS BACK!! Now where’s Kaleb?

Okay, so I didn’t think twice when Dorian kept mentioning his intern, but OMG! It’s Kym! Talk about ecstatic. I don’t know where Kaleb was supposed to have been for the entirety of this episode, but knowing that soon we will have Kaleb, M.G., and Kym all together again is giving me life. I loved their dynamic earlier this season when they were investigating the Croatoan, so there is bound to be some great stuff for them coming down the pike.

Bye Sebastian… the pirate vampire?

So, Sebastian is most definitely in TVD season 1 Damon mode. He’s purposely pushing Alaric’s buttons, he’s head-over-heels for Lizzie, and he’s unable to control his need for chaos. The only question remaining is: Will he end up down a Damon-like path of redemption, or will his story meet a swift and bloody end? Or did it already?

Also, there were a couple of references to Sebastian having a pirate past in this episode that had me wondering where they are taking our new vamp troublemaker. Alaric’s book, Alyssa’s reference to a boat, and when you think back to the Croatoan and the whole Roanoke situation, it would make sense that a pirate could have ended up on the island for all that craziness.

And that original outfit we saw him in. I definitely think it had a pirate-like quality.

I’m definitely eager to see how his pirate-hood may play into later storylines, especially since Alaric did something with him for the time being. Is Sebastian back in his coffin? Is he dead? Did the vamp really choose to leave? I’m sure we’ll find out in Legacies season 2, episode 10, “This Is Why We Don’t Entrust Plans To Muppet Babies.”

Altogether, I think was a great midseason return. We got to see how THE NECROMANCER! came to be back in Mystic Falls, we watched as Sebastian proved himself incapable of following the Salvatore School rules, and we saw Josie, Landon, and Hope well on their way to healing all the ills the first half of the season brought.

I’m anxious to see where the rest of this season takes us after Legacies season 2, episode 9. Have we seen the last of Vardemus? Could we meet the real Vardemus at some point? Is Clark really dead? Is Hope still friends with Maya and Ethan? The questions floating around in my head could go on and on and on and on. But for now, I’ll just trust that there’s a great storyline ahead, and we only have to wait a single week til it arrives this time.

What did you love most about ‘Legacies’ season 2, episode 9?

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madisynxlogan · 4 years

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➺MADISYN LOGAN who looks like KAYLEE BRYANT has been seen in Mystic Falls. their paperwork says the PANSEXUAL, WEREWOLF/WITCH HYBRID who is known to be +PROTECTIVE but also –NARROW MINDED has been alive for 19 years but still looks 19 and that’s why you are going to see them around Whitmore College as a STUDENT (FRESHMAN), and rumour has it they are ELLA BENNETT'S EX-GIRLFRIEND.

all about you, who is the player?

my name’s vee, i’m 25 and from ohio. i’ve been writing for so long that i don’t even remember when i started, i just know that i somehow always end up back in tvd verse.

how long has your character been in mystic falls?

she hasn’t been here long. she only came because she heard that mystic falls was a place with a lot of supernaturals, and she didn’t want to have to hide as much anymore.

what are you excited about exploring abut your character? what au storylines do you wish to do? and any connections you want for your character?

i’m so excited to develop this character. she can be so fun, i just think that she needs a chance to open up and be around other people like herself.

history of your character? for canons, any details about their life that you are adding in or for ocs, we would like as much detail as possible about your characters!

You people can see what you want on the outside, because I promise you, I’m nothing like you think I am. Sure you see the pretty little rich girl, who’s only worried about her clothes, and yes, to a point, I’m that girl. But for one, outward appearances will only get you so far. Don’t judge me based on my appearance, because you’ll be wrong nine times out of ten.

Here’s the basic story. I was born to Theodore and Miranda Logan, and for obvious reasons I don’t really remember my birth or the first couple years of my life. I think I’d like to, because as some say, the first few years are the most important. But anyways, the first thing that I remember is sitting at a table, having dinner with my parents. I barely had any teeth so I was basically gumming the steak, which if I remember had this distinctive char broiled taste. I sat there, pushing it around on my plate, trying to soak up the juices, while my father was giving me the most peculiar look, from his seat. His look only caused me to sit up straighter in my chair, gripping my fork in the same fashion that he held his, elbows lifting from the table only slightly, using the fork now, instead of my fingers to eat the meat.

From that day on, I vowed to do whatever it would take to make my father happy, because I never wanted to have him look at me in that manner again. That look on his face, would stick with me forever, I knew it, and apparently my father knew it as well, since he’d been the one to look at me like he’d rather have me on the floor, eating out of the dog dish than sitting at the table with him. If I was even halfway honest with myself, that look of disdain, probably made me want to cry more than anything ever would in my entire life.

Learning at home with my mother was amazing fun, or at least I thought it was. She taught me everything that I needed to learn so that when I finally went to school, I would hopefully be ahead of the others. She spared nothing in the teaching, and she made it obvious that no matter what the consequences may be I was expected to be the best at everything that I did. This would force me to put forth my best efforts to excel in everything.

When I got my letter from the private school, my parents didn’t seem at all surprised, but for me it would be like an entirely new situation. Someone other than my parents would be teaching me, grooming me as it were, for the real world. This wasn’t one of my favorite realizations in life. I would have rather stayed home with my mother to teach me, but apparently this was unacceptable, so with my things in tow I reported to school as was expected of me.

It became a daily regimen of mine to prove to everyone in my class that I was better than them, while the entire time, inside I was always afraid of failing my father. He was constantly there to tell me what I was doing wrong, and what I should do to improve on these things. Now, most people would have been embarrassed to have their parents that close to them in a situation where they were supposed to be making new friends, and learning new things. Not me, my father was nothing to be ashamed of, at least not in my eyes, my mother either. Together the two of them only forced me to be better no matter who or what got hurt in the process.

I didn’t last long in the private school, I was kicked out for fighting, and my parents were severely disappointed in me. They had me put into therapy, and I went back to being home schooled for the foreseeable future. High school was a different story, my parents finally agreed to allow me to attend public high school, and I made some actual friends.

#whitmorehq:intro

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elenagilbertss · 4 years

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ELENA GILBERT who looks like NINA DOBREV has been seen in Mystic Falls. their paperwork says the BISEXUAL, VAMPIRE has been alive for EIGHTEEN years and still looks EIGHTEEN and that’s why you are going to see them around Whitmore College as a STUDENT (FRESHMAN) [syd - 18/MST]

ABOUT ME, THE PLAYER ;

hi! i’m syd and i’m eighteen! as you may have seen i am in the mountain time zone. i’m newer to tvd roleplays, but i have years worth of experience and absolutely adore tumblr rpgs so am very excited to be apart of this one! just about me personally i use she/her pronouns and i am a lesbian! i make my own music, do online school, and nanny to make my money. maybe i’m oversharing but ! that’s about me, individually and just about all you need to know. i also write elias in this group!

HOW LONG HAS ELENA BEEN IN MYSTIC FALLS? ;

it’s no secret that elena was born and raised in mystic falls in a similar fashion to generations of gilberts who came before her. many grow restless of small town life, but thus far, even after starting college she hasn’t grown tired of her life in mystic falls, no matter how tiresome the events that transpire within it become.

CONNECTIONS, STORYLINES, AND WHAT I’M LOOKING FORWARD TO

apart from generally being excited to explore this verse again as well as test my skill as elena, i’m looking forward to playing in the space of an au. i adore aus and making canon-divergent decisions for the betterment of character development or plot. as far as storylines and connections, i’m not looking for anything specific at the moment. of course this is all subject to change, but for now i’m really just ready to hit the ground running, play around, and go from there.

CHARACTER HISTORY

for the moment, there is nothing entirely drastic about elena’s background that I would alter. it’s obviously a headcanon that my elena is bi. i very much so think she wouldn’t figure that out until much later on, around when she’s starting at whitmore and her humanity has returned. i reckon she’s given a lot to think about with that time now being over, she comes to many conclusions as everyone does and her sexuality is one of them. while in the show elena pursues a medical degree, in this au i’d like to see her foster the love for writing she’s always had. as for now, there’s nothing more that comes to mind, but i do have a headcanons tag on my navigation page that i will inevitably add to! I think most important to note is that even as a vampire elena has this deep desire to be normal. since she’s newly turned, her main goal really is to just have a normal experience her first time going through college. as the rpg picks up, we find her at one of many points where she is trying to live as normal of a life as possible.

#whitmorehq:intro

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itspileofgoodthings · 5 years

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Today's challenge: What are five of your most unpopular opinions about TVD?! You may already know mine: 1. IMO, first few seasons of this show and even parts of the later seasons are genuinely great television, not just a 'guilty pleasure' 2. While I like Stefan, I don't love him quite as much as most of our fandom does 3. I'm a huge Elena stan for reasons we've discussed 4. I'm kind of obsessed with Mabekah and Steferine 5. I love the oft overlooked Matt and he's sneakily important to the show

I’m getting to these so late, but thank you! These are excellent opinions and I support them. :) (I love Matt, oh boy.)

1. The most well-told of Caroline’s romances, as they exist in canon, is her and Matt. Every other relationship she’s in I can’t fully buy or be invested in as much as I would like to be because of the writing. Again- this is in canon. In terms of chemistry and characterization and possibility- I think all of them work in different ways. I’m a Caroline multi-shipper I guess? I still love my vision of what Stefan and Caroline could have been. Klaus as the Love of Caroline’s Life makes SENSE. She and Tyler are very sweet and innocent at first and it feels real! I even think that she and Enzo could have worked! Caroline COULD WORK WITH SO MANY PEOPLE so it’s kind of sad that she doesn’t, canonically, really work with anyone.

2. I really, really hate how the show uses Caroline as a mouthpiece in the endless ship baiting of season 4 and, especially, season 5. It’s jarring and obvious and often pretty out of character. She deserved better. (So did Elena.)

3. I don’t see anything romantic about Damon and Bonnie. It’s not that I don’t get why people ship it because the friendship is beautiful, the love is real, and the chemistry is good (#thathug). It’s just- to me none of that translates to a romantic relationship. At all. They’re too alike in some ways and not enough alike in others. Also I just don’t ever think they’re in love. I don’t see it and I don’t think the characters see it either.

4. The show, especially in later seasons, is so wildly inconsistent about characterization that everyone is free to pick and choose what they consider canon. Everyone, at some point or another, does something RIDICULOUS and DUMB and we should all be free to say “that was a dumb decision and I don’t consider it canon”. I’m on season 7 now and it is one giant L O L.

5. This is my big one. I don’t think Stefan ever fully got over Katherine and so I don’t think that he was ever really in love with Elena. The show disagrees with me on both these points (and many other people as well, I suspect) and because the show disagrees with me I don’t have textual evidence on my side in that the show frequently (and imo heavy-handedly) contradicts me. But in a deeper sense the show does support me through characterization and actions, if not in words, and I still think I’m right. Some day I will write a thesis on it. I think he comes to care for Elena deeply and even to love her- it’s not that I think he’s lying when he says that he loves her- but I think it’s the friendship that blooms underneath the romance that’s real, not the romance itself.

I see Stefan’s romantic feelings for Elena as some combination of good ol’ delusion, desperation for a human life and love, and a need for a fresh start- a chance to undo the wounds of his Katherine past with the human and “good” version of her. The fact that Stefan is not aware of this doesn’t bother me because that’s human and real. What’s disappointing is that the show never acknowledges that, though it wrote the truths in there anyway, and so it doesn’t develop the compelling and thematically rich disconnect between why he thinks he came to Mystic Falls and why he actually did. It never explores the connections between Stefan’s relation to Katherine, vampirism, and Elena in all their true complexity and because of that Stefan’s storyline- especially re: Elena being The Love of His Life (me throwing popcorn at my screen: she’s not, you idiot)- ends up being forced and underdeveloped and personally disappointing to me because the bones of an incredible, painful, and truthful redemption arc about self-discovery and realization and growth and healing are tHERE.

#tvd liveblogging #eternalworksinprogress #<3 <3 #stefan's story is so fascinating to me because it's all T H E R E #but the show-writer had the same problem stefan does #and they can't see him clearly #also i have opinions i hold much more strongly- season 5 toxic delena storyline is BS for example- but these are the most unpopular!

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hoezier · 6 years

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Thank you for everything The Originals

This is gonna be very sentimental and possibly long so buckle up.

I never talked about this before. About why this show has come to mean so much to me. About what it helped me with and helped me through. About why it had my undying support. But the truth is, the Originals’ had been my constant friend in times when I needed it most. It offered me community when I felt most lost and overwhelmed. And even as it leaves me now, it is doing so at a time when I’m finally ready to go off on my own. It is so very strange, but so much of the show has been rather oddly synced with my life. Even its exit.

My family and I moved to the United States on February 2nd of 2014. I remember distinctly that only a couple of days after our arrival here, with nothing to our name but a motel reservation and bags of our clothing, 1x13 aired. And I was grateful that the show would go on hiatus for a couple of weeks afterward, because i had no idea what would happen to us. And I was genuinely concerned that I’d miss an episode. It was that important to me. You see, I was terrified at the time without even knowing it. We had no housing, no work, no nothing. I didn’t even know whether I’d be accepted into University (I got the acceptance letter three weeks after our arrival) or if I’d be able to pay for it (I did and I graduated with honors last May). Everything seemed up in the air. All that I knew for sure was that I loved this show and I can look forward to another episode next week. I still remember watching the rest of the first season sitting on the ground in our dingy, two-bedroom, unfurnished apartment, the one that our family of five had to tough it out in for two excruciating years. Looking around me, I had nothing to tether me to reality, odd as that sounds, except those characters. Nothing to give me excitement and joy, nothing to distract me, except those characters. They breathed and loved and laughed and cried on my screen and simply invited me to their life. And through all the seasons, and all the years, I could never forget the connection that I forged with them. They made me feel connected to something when the world felt muffled and big and wide and cold the most. And I don’t know why this show offered me the most warmth or reached out to me the most in that time. Maybe because I loved those characters for so long already, from the days of TVD, and watching it gave me something familiar in the midst of a whirlwind of new that I couldn’t understand.

Throughout the years this show always offered me something. Its storylines were there for me in the strangest of ways. Whether during season four when I fell into an intense episode of depression and found nothing there to console me except those characters. Or when Elijah lost his memories in a moment where memories were plaguing me and on my mind more than ever and I suddenly found an outlet to this question and I could probe and poke at something concrete to help me. I won’t go into full details. And if I was to recall every single time this show stretched out a helping hand towards me, I’d be here all day. But for all of this and more I’ll forever be grateful for having had you, show, and I’ll forever be grateful for every single person who was involved in your making. None of this is to say that you were perfect, show. You could have done so much better on so many occasions. But it doesn’t matter anymore. I know that I’ve loved you far more than I have resented you. And I’ll always remember you fondly.

To Klaus: I can’t lump my love for Klaus with everyone else though. This is strange, believe me it’s strange to write and it’s even stranger to know that every single word of it is true, but I’ve grown so attached to Klaus over the past 8 years, ever since he was introduced in TVD, that I feel like I know him as a living breathing human being. And having to say goodbye feels like nothing short of saying goodbye to a very good friend who accompanied on a strange journey of discovering myself over the past few years. I can’t explain why I feel so connected to this character, I just do. Maybe it’s the tragedy about him or maybe it’s the fact that I saw something of myself in him in his more vulnerable parts or maybe it’s something else entirely. All I know is that saying goodbye to him is much harder than I thought it would be. And because of this I’ll always love Joseph Morgan for giving him the depth and presence and the charisma to be the character he is today.

To the fandom: I wish we were kinder to each other, fandom. I wish we appreciated each other more. I wish we respected each other and the cast and the crew more. I wish we didn’t take ourselves and our opinions so seriously. I think we could have done better on so many fronts. But I also know that I’ve loved spending every single moment fangirling over this show with you. I found a place where I could freak out and joke and cry and there was always someone reaching out to met and going “SAME”. And I know that with time I won’t remember the fights or the insults or the bitterness. All that I’ll remember is how much FUN I’ve had with every single one of you. From the very special friends I’ve made here (you know who you are), to every single anon message I got. You’ll all always mean so much to me. Thank you for making experiencing this show so damn delightful. And I hope that you’ll remember me as fondly as I’ll remember you.

Now that I’ve talked so much, I’m not really sure how to end this. My heart hurts a little for having to say goodbye but I also feel so much love for all the memories I’ve made and for everything this show had to offer. I look forward to watching this show’s last hour tonight and spending the upcoming days (let’s be real it’ll be more like weeks) processing it, talking about it, and saying goodbye to this show.

Love,

Sahar.

#original groupies #the originals #klaus mikaelson #the trash chronicles #klaus stan club #personal #i feel very open right now #i've never been this open online #I'm also crying a lot #an I don't mind if you reblog this if you want to #for whatever reason #[i didn't initially tag the trash chronicles and regretted it]#[don't know how many of you guys still follow this tag though]#[and i just wanted you to know that i love you and appreciate you]

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mandibierly · 6 years

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Why vampires aren't as sexy in the age of #MeToo

Nina Dobrev as Elena and Ian Somerhalder as Damon on The Vampire Diaries. (Photo: Everett Collection)

The Vampire Diaries and Dawson’s Creek producer Julie Plec on the storylines you’d have to think twice about today, the inspiring Marjory Stoneman Douglas students, and the Roswell reboot.

This March marks a year since The Vampire Diaries signed off the air after eight seasons on The CW, and as showrunner Julie Plec thinks back to its beginnings, there’s no question what her biggest takeaway is. “There was a sensuality and a seduction to the vampire genre that now, [nearly] 10 years later, isn’t necessarily as sexy, right?” she says, alluding to the fact that vampires can compel or glamour humans (depending on whether you’re watching TVD or True Blood) and have overpowering strength and speed.

“And you could look at it back through the lens of say the #MeToo movement and object to what may be a little bit of a glorification of a rape culture, but what we were working with at the time was a gothic romance with a fine line — a very fine line — separating it,” she says, with a laugh. “And I used to get in arguments about it being a gothic romance and not wanting to censor the sexuality of the characters, even if it felt a little questionable at times, like specifically Damon and Caroline in the first couple of episodes [when he used her as a plaything and drank from her against her will]. Because that’s what vampires represented, and that’s what vampires were. And the culture has just shifted enough that you’d have to think twice before you dove in that boldly now, I think.”

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Another storyline that doesn’t feel “of the time” today is the classic bad boy trope, which, Plec admits, she’s had great success exploring on TVD and its spinoff, The Originals (which returns April 20 for its fifth and final season). “It brings to light a lot of questions about women’s self-worth and passivity in that male/female dynamic, and so that’s shifting as well,” she says. “It’ll be [interesting] to see how you can create great romance and tension in a romantic relationship without being able to rely on those old tropes of the guy picking up the girl and throwing her over his shoulder and saving the day, you know.”

As someone who also worked on close friend Kevin Williamson’s series Dawson’s Creek for a time, Plec can, too, admit that 20 years later, a plot point like Pacey having sex with his teacher hasn’t aged well. “There was something kind of sexy and dirty and naughty and wish fulfillment about that back then that leaves a really nasty taste in my mouth right now,” she says.

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Still, there are some Dawson’s arcs that more than hold up. She thinks back to Jack (Kerr Smith) coming out in Season 2 — and in Season 3, experiencing the first passionate kiss between two men on TV (thanks to then showrunner Greg Berlanti being willing to walk away from the series if the network wouldn’t air it). “Essentially that scene where the father rejects Jack and leaves him in a puddle crying was a fictionalized version of Greg’s actual experience, which he’s talked very freely about in his own interviews,” Plec says. “The beauty of that storyline is the idea that as a young adult, [Greg] had an experience that he had to keep a secret for a while, and then when he revealed his secret, it didn’t go well, and then for him to be able to exorcise that demon through writing — to actually show the story to an audience and show them all the beautiful things about that story that he himself had never gotten to see as a viewer.”

That’s also an illustration of why Plec has always been drawn to the teen genre. “What’s most inspirational about writing for that age is that everyone at that age is either living their biggest truth or their biggest secret, and sometimes both. And they communicate in a very straight-forward way. They tend to sort of say what they mean, and express their feelings without filters in a way that you just don’t do as much as an adult,” she says. “And so as a writer, it makes it a particularly honest experience — I don’t have to think, I can just put my thoughts on the page as I would have wanted to when I was 17.”

Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School students Emma Gonzalez, left, David Hogg, and Cameron Kasky raising their voices. (Photos: Getty/AP)

Last month, when she was watching the teen survivors of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas school shooting speak on TV, she thought again about Dawson’s Creek.

“Kevin made a very specific and unique style choice in that he purposefully wrote those teens to have almost hyperbolic language and communication skills,” Plec says, “and I would say, probably the biggest lesson you can take from his choice was that when you’re writing for teenagers, you don’t treat them like children. You treat them, and you present them, as adults. And that was actually passing through my head when I was listening to all the Parkland students on CNN giving their press conference. I said, ‘My god, they are so magnificently articulate.’ And the idea that there used to exist this sense in that particular youth genre that you had to write down or limit their vocabulary or narrow their point of view seems so ridiculous in the post-Dawson’s Creek era, because you look at the reality of how teenagers communicate at their best.”

Katherine Langford as Hannah Baker in 13 Reasons Why. (Photo: Netflix/Courtesy Everett Collection)

The conversation those students, and fearless shows like 13 Reasons Why, are creating in the country give her hope. “If you’re looking at all of these kids talking about being shot up in their school, then you’re applauding a show like 13 Reasons Why for creating an environment for people to talk openly about their feelings, about their mental illness, about their sadness, about the things that make them feel dark. If talking about mental health is the norm and not the aberration, then I think we solve a lot of the world’s problems just by definition of that.”

Because again, when done well, these shows can make a difference. For her next project, Plec will direct the pilot for The CW’s Roswell reboot, written by Originals alum Carina Adly MacKenzie and based on the Roswell High book series. This time, the story centers on the daughter (Jeanine Mason) of undocumented immigrants who returns to her hometown of Roswell, New Mexico, for her 10-year high school reunion and discovers that her teenage crush (Nathan Parsons), who is now a police officer, has been hiding the fact that he’s an alien with unearthly abilities. When a violent attack and long-standing government cover-up point to a greater alien presence on Earth, the politics of fear and hatred threaten to expose him and destroy their deepening romance.

“Carina was raised in the Muslim faith by an Egyptian mother, although she is a blonde-haired, blue-eyed young woman, and after 9/11, the next day everyone in her school was exhibiting blatant Islamophobia, and she had to sort of stand up and say, ‘Hey, wait a second, guys. Watch yourselves.’ And so to be able to tell that story through this lens is really important to her because it is something that she went through as a teenager.”

And it’s an experience that today’s teens can still relate to. “Anything that you’re making for that particular audience, you know deep down that you’re in some way, in success, laying the foundation for important things like tolerance and inclusion, and openness to issues like mental health or self-esteem,” she says. “You’re touching people at the right time, where your message can actually make positive change if your message is well-executed — and there’s something really uplifting and powerful about that.”

Read more “Why Teen TV Matters” from Yahoo Entertainment:

Show creator looks back at 4 decades of ‘Degrassi,’ from abortion to Drake

Joss Whedon on Parkland students: ‘I’ve been writing about kids like these for a long while. I thought I was writing fantasy.’

‘My So-Called Life’ and ‘Parenthood’ creators on Parkland teens ‘changing the conversation’ on TV and in real life

Why social media is the biggest issue teen TV should tackle

#news #_revsp:wp.yahoo.tv.us #why teen tv matters #_author:Mandi Bierly #greg berlanti #_category:yct:001000086 #_lmsid:a0Vd000000AE7lXEAT #interviews #julie plec #the vampire diaries #kevin williamson #roswell #Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School #The CW #_uuid:4771b971-500b-32f1-9834-9f5fe810a831 #dawsons creek

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mysterolineheart444world · 7 years

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(1/2) Agree with everything in that post (btw I submitted that long rant ask before you posted so no need to respond lol). Salute & farewell to all the missed potential and lack of follow-through in last night's episode and THROUGHOUT the entire fucking series. I'm a diehard SC shipper but TBH i think S & C deserve to be happy no matter what, all shipping aside. S does not deserve to die, D does. It's really disconcerting that the writers have been able to keep their jobs b/c this show survives

(2/2) on shipping viewership and they string people along to later blow it up in our faces and not follow through on what at first glance appears to be solid writing & carefully placed/chosen wording. Should 8x16 prove to be as terrible as I’m imagining it, TVD will end on an emotional low & JP’s legacy will reflect her second-rate story telling. I hope I’m wrong but I’m not holding my breath. Sorry I’m still so emotional and upset, & looking at the new “steroline pessimism” tag doesnt help lol

Hey anon,

sorry for the late reply. i was too messed up to even know what to say. Still pretty depressed tbh.

The more i think about it, the more it feels like Steroline has been used as a plot device to get stefan to the ripper, servant of cade stage without faulting him. And when that was achieved they tossed steroline aside.

If steroline was the priority, they would have made caroline trigger stefan. One would think that if they couldnt have caroline trigger his humanity back because the plot needed him to turn human, they would at least make it evident and obvious that had he not been turned human, caroline would have without a doubt triggered him. But they let us down in that aspect as well. Till the very end caroline did not bring about real noteworthy conflict in stefan. Disappointing.

After 811 I have come to the conclusion that while Damon’s character will be always be about DE and preserving its integrity, Stefan’s story may or may not service Steroline. Damon’s character growth was kept stunted so that DE may be serviced whereas Stefan was given complex (annoying) storylines in s7 that caroline had nothing to do with. I was hoping this wouldn’t be the case in S8 but unfortunately the ripper arc made it clear that its not imperative that steroline be highlighted or even respected in stefan’s personal arcs.

811 made it clear that they are willing to compromise of steroline to move the plot forward.

i feel like the only way steroline will get a satisfactory end is if thats where the writers want stefan to be at, at the end of tvd. They could very well let stefan stay human and caroline a vampire if it services this new storyline that they have going. because its not about caroline or steroline.

this is what the writer tweeted after 811. its clear that its about stefan and not necessarily about steroline.

while we would like to believe that stefan’s struggle is something caroline will be a part of, season 7 proved that that doesnt have to be the case.

So far we have had 3 episodes with zero screen time and this is a 16 episode final season. that should tell us a lot about how much ( read less) they want to showcase steroline.

even the wedding looks like a plot device to launch us into the finale.

and the most annoying part is that toxic defan is back again.

not to mention it looks like 13 and 14 have them separated again. why is dorian important again ???

they used the engagement and dangled it to distract us from the lack of solid screen time or even actual an story. SC doesnt have a story, its stefan with the story and caroline digging up time capsules. Whatever happened to :I’m going to be your wife blah blah.. tell you that you are strong enough, save you if i have to.. ???? just pretty words with no follow up ?? and interestingly the same writer who wrote this line write 811.

im beyond upset by this turn of events. because it just jeopardises sterolines story and possibly their endgame.

#Steroline #Stefan Salvatore #anon ask #caroline forbes #anti tvd writers

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That is 45 minutes I will never get back {8x09 Review}

As those of you who read my reviews know, I do write in real time so whatever mistakes I made in the beginning of the post I may have rectified at the end. I am anti-Damon/anti-Delena/anti-Bamon/anti-Bonenzo/anti-Steroline and I will probably mention misogynoir, anti-black treatment and make references to other shows. If you do not like it, keep on scrolling. I also did this on my phone so bear with me. Alright. Let’s go. 1. It’s actually refreshing to see Stefan feed on a dude because it seems like we only ever see them feed on women lately. 2. Why aren’t cops interested in a string of murders happening throughout the States? They aren’t exactly keeping a low profile. Stefan massacred an entire hospital and Anger Management group. 3. TVD really fails the Bechdel test and I like how we don’t actually hear about Bonnie’s trip to Paris, just that she’s wearing a vial of Enzo’s blood. 4. “Is that it? We’re due at an event” Candice’s delivery was actually on point. 5. I’m confused now, so Sybil is on the “war path” because she wants a weapon that can destroy her and now Seline wants to kill her to make amends (did I miss something? Because I know Sybil didn’t forgive her but, like, did they declare war on each other?) I still don’t understand why Caroline would team up with Seline? Or why Caroline would care about what’s happening with the sirens? Why are they relevant now that Damon and Stefan are Cade’s servants? 6. So this year the carnival was before Miss Mystic when Miss Mystic was before the carnival in seasons 1 and 2? 7. Stefan and Caroline looking at each other did not move me at all, it’s not even like they “locked” eyes, like it’s so underwhelming. Makes me miss 3x03. Sybil and Damon actually look so much better together than Damon and Elena since Sybil looks age appropriate. 8. They are REALLY trying to romanticize 1x19, fam, it was a dance and not even a “it all makes sense” dance like SE’s 3x14 and 3x20,it’s a “wow Damon, I didn’t know you could dance like that” dance and a “suck it, Stefan!” dance. They really need to fucking chill. 9. It’s also transparent that Stefan doesn’t have a flashback to Elena even though it’s been repeated that SE was the foundation of the show. And not even that, Caroline, Bonnie and Matt do not have flashbacks of Elena and Jeremy isn’t even mentioned but oh yeah, season 1 feels. 10. “Sybil just “sirened” that girl.” Lol, compelled. 11. Bonnie and Enzo actually just look awkward, they’re very stiff and Enzo is SO monotonous. 12. “What did that woman do to you?” Caroline, my girl, it isn’t that serious. He doesn’t know why the necklace meant something to him and he’s a little upset. Maybe if Ian actually played tortured well I’d feel something but right now, I’m just like why DOES the necklace mean anything to you? You gave it to Elena because it was an SE symbol and you wanted her to have it because it reminded her of Stefan. Why would YOU have any attachment to it? And you giving it back to her in 2x08 is about the fact that you gave it back, not the necklace itself. LIKE? 13. LOL yeah Caroline’s “a love so deep and magical” speech really just sounds like she’s trying to convince herself about her relationship with Stefan because when did Caroline actually see anything of the Damon and Elena relationship? Like honestly. 14. “Take it from me, Elena Gilbert never really goes away.” Mmmmmmmmmmhmmmmmmm. 15. Oh this is why DErs are going to freak out because he broke the necklace and he said that he only gave it to Elena to protect her from Damon, lol, but this season is full of retcons anyway, so. 16. I find it strange that Caroline is more focused on saving Damon than Stefan. 17. Oh my GOD, we’re only 20 minutes in? 18. Bonnie and Enzo do not look good dancing, they look uncomfortable. 19. I’m actually getting really annoyed at seeing the same footage of Elena and Damon dancing because it’s aggravating! There’s nothing more to this episode THAN the dance. Are we forgetting that the moment it’s over, Elena is all about Stefan? SELECTIVE MEMORY. 20. Why are we acting like Damon’s humanity will crush him? He was fine with killing Lexi, turning Vicki, killing Jeremy, killing Aaron, kidnapping Jeremy, trying to kill Caroline, raping and abusing Caroline, etc. Like why wouldn’t he be fine with this? Elena won’t care. 21. Why do they keep saying Matt is stupid? How is Alaric any smarter? A fucking siren was his nanny for months. 22. The battle for Damon’s subconscious is really underwhelming because I don’t see the big deal? Why does Sybil even want Damon? And what exactly is so strenuous about what’s going on in his mind? The fact that he’s remembering someone he can’t have feelings for? 23. This entire fight is ridiculous to me because I don’t know what Stefan and Damon are fighting about? Damon is feeling and Stefan isn’t and it’s a problem? Like? This is so underwhelming. 24. Bonnie and Enzo are just … ehh sure, whatever. Fine. 25. LMAO Caroline doesn’t even seem sad about what’s happening to Stefan. But Damon got all this pity? WHAT are the writers doing? 26. LMAO Caroline leaving Stefan just reminds me of 3x07 when Stefan is like, “So you’re quitting” and Elena being like “Oh hell no, I’m just done for the day, fam.” Like Elena was IN it. And Stefan actually had the capacity to look ashamed and moved and the language was a lot more passionate, not this “we had a deal” business, are you two engaged or business partners? 27. I honestly don’t get the storyline with Damon and Sybil, like it just seems so small potatoes, like what is the POINT? 28. So Sybil giving Damon back his humanity is Tessa giving Stefan back his memory. This episode was a mess because absolutely nothing happened. Caroline left Stefan. OK? Damon got his humanity back. Sure. And Bonnie asks Enzo to be a human. Fine? WHO GIVES A SHIT? WHO CARES. WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? I also don’t get how Sybil made Damon’s life a living hell, because she forced him to kill people he didn’t want to but he did it anyway? That doesn’t seem to be the issue, the issue for Damon seems to be that he got a taste of his own medicine by being compelled, I’m sorry I mean “sirened” and that he couldn’t say no to Sybil even if he wanted to. And the fact that he feels nothing for Elena but still sees her and feels warmth because of a necklace is like … what, is it like you get one taste of happiness but then suddenly it disappears and you’re lost and alone and … WHAT? Like be LOTR, Frodo about it where Frodo doesn’t remember what water or food tastes like or the wind, have it be like Damon remembers ALL of these things when he holds the necklace but then Sybil manages to take that away from him and so he’s tortured with remembering happiness and he’s fighting to push out Elena’s memory because it hurts him too much to feel but she won’t budge. I feel like that’s what they’re trying to do but they’re doing it poorly. LIKE EVERYTHING DELENA. And Stefan. No one seems to care that Stefan is going off the deep end, like they just take him at his word that this is what he wants and this is what he was made to do and he’s his Best Self this way. He has no humanity! Why is Caroline just like, whatever, fine, sure but Damon is the one who needs saving? WHAT? And why is Caroline acting so superior as if she didn’t turn off her humanity two seasons ago and went around the country killing people? So it’s not OK for Damon to spiral, everyone needs to bend over backwards to stop Damon but if it’s Stefan, they just let him do the shit he wants? WHAT? This is how you know the show isn’t interested in story and only interested in their fave, which is Damon. Bonnie and Enzo just keep telling each other how much they love each other without us ever seeing why that would be. Old news. This was an excruciatingly bad episode.

#the vampire diaries #tvd #stelena #stefan salvatore #tvd review #anti-tvd #anti julie plec #anti julie plague #anti caroline dries #paul wesley #nina dobrev #dobsley #Stefan Salvatore deserves better #TVD 8x09 #the intimacy of the near touch

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cbk1000 · 7 years

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I thought I was going to wait a couple more days to write this, but, well, I'm sick, I'm home alone, I'm bored, and as people have been trickling in to comment on this series, it feels right to add something characteristically long and meandering.

Much of this will be an overly long commentary on some of my all-time favorite characters, why I chose to tell their stories the way I told them, how I feel about Caroline in particular, and her journey in this series vs. what the show did to her. Also included: answers to several of your most burning questions, including What the Actual Fuck Is Wrong With You*, Are You a Robot, and my personal favorite, Are You Some Kind of Sick Person?

*I'm not actually going to answer this; sorry. I'm still sorting it out for myself. It's a long and murky journey that involves rummaging about in my subconscious, which is a dark place, full of an alarming parade of bizarre historical facts, serial killer case files, and helicopter/dinosaur porn.

As this will contain spoilers, I'll put the rest under a cut so those of you who have not yet finished the series don't accidentally stumble across something you're not ready to see.

So, first we'll address the elephant in the room. I know this series didn't go the way some of you expected it to; frankly, it didn't go the way I expected it to, either. First and foremost because it was supposed to be a goddamn trilogy (whoooooooops), and secondly because Christ on a goddamned pogo stick was TO so much worse than I ever could have imagined. I know for some of you there was too much history, not enough KC, that I gave too much time to Caroline's other relationships, that Klaus was too terrible, the Originals too fucked-up, Tim unsympathetic/boring, etc. etc. etc. (Let's all pause for a moment to appreciate the fact that not one negative comment ever said this series has gone on too fucking long. I can ramble for 600,000+ words and no one has an issue with that, but thousand-year-old vampires being terrible people is unendurable.) I won't talk about this for too long, mostly because I've addressed it before, and basically my response to all of this is that I wrote the series exactly how I needed to write it to deal with what happened to some of my favorite characters. I cut out characters and plotlines I originally intended to address, sometimes rather abruptly, because I could no longer look at them, even my own version of them (Stefan, buddy, I'm talking about you) without feeling enraged. It was a constant struggle to divorce myself from canon to such an extent that I could write freely, so that my muse wouldn't be cockblocked by Klaus' magical testicles and the reduction of Caroline to Stefan's penis pleaser. Mostly I was successful; sometimes I was not. So I did turn to the things that pleased me: I turned to lengthy flashbacks, I turned to Caroline as an individual character with her own plot and developments outside of Klaus, I turned to an original character who didn't force me to tiptoe around shitty canon.

Tl; dr: The series was long and rambling and there are child murders and an original character, and I'm genuinely sorry some people who enjoyed it in the beginning were eventually disappointed by it, but I'm not sorry I wrote it that way.

This series, as I have already said, was the longest, most complex writing project I have ever attempted. Previously, I've always written about humans: soft, breakable humans who can and often do die, whose stories are small, narrow things in the grand scheme of the world. Because that's who I am: a small, breakable human with a finite number of years and stories. And that's exactly what drew me to Klaus, who really was the catalyst for my TVD work--how do you write so far beyond a human's limited scope? How do you explore a perspective like that? How do you write about a thousand-year-old savant and somehow convince your readers that they actually are following the perspective of a man who has lived and evolved for ten centuries, who speaks hundreds of languages, who is an expert in most subjects, who is not only smarter than any reader can really comprehend, but smarter indeed than the writer herself? We're supposed to challenge ourselves as writers: we're supposed to confront the things that frighten us most, and that's what Klaus was for me. He was a character I could never be smart or skilled enough to fully capture. So, being a masochistic bitch, I waded right in.

I was never really opposed to a redemption storyline for Klaus. This may seem contrary to my many varied and colorful comments on the moist tampon that has usurped the rightful face and place of one of my favorite characters, but it's true: I just never wanted that redemption. Klaus is not a character who can be saved. He's not a character who should be saved. He's not human: that's what TO's writers have forgotten (along with the most basic tenets of good storytelling). He can never be 'good' by our standards. He's from a long-vanished world; he was never one of us even when he was human. He was from a time and culture we will never experience or fully understand. He was born into a society some of us would now consider barbaric, and then he was stabbed to death by his own father, turned into a monster he could not possibly comprehend, and sent off into the world with the only father figure he'd ever known hot on his heels. He killed his own mother. These are his origins: and from this we expect a man we can understand, a man who falls prey to dipshit psychology students and the miracle of childbirth. Klaus has seen plenty of births and plenty of dipshit humans: that's the whole fucking point. He's seen it all. He's seen just about every iteration of human bullshit there is, over and over again. We're cyclical, predictable creatures, and, what's more, we're a food source to him. Why should we be anything else? The depressing truth of it is, humans don't even give a shit about humans, as evidenced by our multiple wars and genocides. If humanity can't even treat itself with the proper respect and reverence for life, why would an immortal monster care about anything other than its most outstanding members (and, no, TO, Cami is not even remotely close to an example of a noteable human)?

Klaus' redemption, then, should have been a tiny, incremental thing. It should have been him slowly letting go of his father's shadow. It should have been him realizing that he does not deserve the loyalty he so desperately craves, and he never will if he continues in the same vein. It should have been him slowly learning to treat his family with more respect, to stop using even those closest to him as pawns, to step back and take a breath and sometimes just let things fucking go instead of lashing out. It should have been a long and difficult process that he had to fail at over and over again. And there shouldn't have been a goddamn baby in sight. This series was what I wanted for him. And ultimately, though I love him and I want him to be happy, I also want him to have to face permanent consequences. It's the only way he can grow. Letting go of Kol was his redemption. Having the dagger on him, knowing he could have repeated the cycle, knowing he could have stuck Kol in a box for three centuries to cool off, knowing he still had control, knowing that he could still puff his chest and exert his power and instead choosing not to do that was the best ending I can think of for him, bittersweet though it may be.

As this series continued, it became very important to me that I tell a story about breaking away when you need to, when a situation is not healthy anymore, when the people who are supposed to love and protect you treat you in a way that is detrimental to your emotional if not physical health. One of the things that most bothers me about TO and TVD is the persistent message that you must stick by your family, no matter what; I see this message perpetuated throughout media in general and real life itself, and I can tell you this: it's bullshit. It doesn't matter how long you've put up with it, you still have an obligation to yourself to get the fuck out. Because someone shares your blood does not mean they own your soul. None of the Originals' relationships are healthy: they're a bunch of thousand-year-old serial killers. I didn't write this series so people could enjoy, guilt-free, the white picket fences and 2.5 kids of your high school sweetheart neighbors who have been married for twenty happy years. But Kol felt so marginalized, so trapped, so lonely, and though I set up Klaus' narrative arc so that the natural conclusion can be drawn that he does improve, he does mellow out a bit, he will treat the people he loves better--that's not good enough. It's not enough for Kol to think that in future he'll feel more included, his siblings will love him in a way that, if not exactly healthy, at least will not destroy him. He didn't need to wait any longer for that: he says so himself. He acknowledges Klaus may well become less of a tit: it doesn't matter.

Though Kol may have left with Tim, it wasn't about giving a ship a happy ending. It was actually my original intention to kill off Tim (I'll go into that later, but for now, shout out to my sister for reminding me that LGBT romances never get a happy ending in media), but Kol's story was always going to have the same ending: he was always going to leave. I think he is, right now at least, the only family member capable of breaking away. Rebekah can't do it; she'll see it through to the bloody end. But I always approached Kol with the idea that, disturbing murder shenanigans aside, of them all he actually had the healthiest grasp of what it means to love someone. He is, ironically, perhaps the most well-adjusted of them all. He isn't immune to the effects of time and the examples of his siblings, he isn't without his slips and fuck-ups, but ultimately the relationship between Kol and Tim, despite the fact that they are both bloodthirsty murderers who were mentored by Klaus, is one of mutual respect and gay murder. This too I have TO/TVD to thank for, because I could not fucking stand one more girl-gives-up-everything-she-is-for-a-boy-who-treats-her-like-shit relationship, nor was I down with the concept that all these ancient creatures with uber durable privates and raging hormones never strayed so much as a little toe outside the careful, heteronormative confines of the writers' extraordinarily limited notions of immortality. This graphic gay murder sex brought to you by my annoyance.

I'm going to leave off here, because this, like everything I write, is annoyingly long, and I've still got quite a bit I'd like to say. In my defense, this series is over 600,000 words and has consumed over three years of my life. Bit hard to summarize my thoughts and feelings in a few paragraphs.

Also, I have fucking nothing else to do anyway.

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Matt's Inside Line: Scoop on Supergirl, Arrow, Grey's, Manifest, #OneChicago, Star, Legends, Supernatural and More

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Matt's Inside Line: Scoop on Supergirl, Arrow, Grey's, Manifest, #OneChicago, Star, Legends, Supernatural and More

Is Supergirl stirring a super rivalry? What surprising alliance will form on Manifest? Which #OneChicago character’s “punk” roots will be exposed? Are Arrow‘s Felicity and Diggle on the same page? Read on for answers to those questions plus teases from other shows!

In Season 3B, there was a bit of a rocky storyline between Supergirl and Lena. In Season 4, will they be able to repair that and continue to work together? —Victoria “Their arc and their story as friends is a slow burn…,” Melissa Benoist told us at The CW’s Fall Launch event. “I can’t say where I think/I know it’s headed, but… it’s a Lex Luthor and a Superman story.” Benoist promised that we’ll still see lighter moments ‘tween her and Katie McGrath (“Kara and Lena are the best of friends”), though “a secret identity in the midst is not exactly a good ingredient for a friendship with a Luthor!” she notes with a laugh.

On Arrow, what can you share about Diggle and Felicity’s interactions while Oliver is in prison? –Jennifer “In the second episode, we’ll see how they’re working together, because obviously they both want to see Diaz behind bars,” showrunner Beth Schwartz answered when we hand-delivered your Q. “But there’s definite tension, for sure — with everyone,” Dinah, Curtis and Rene included. “Some people want to go back to how it was, and some people have moved on. So that will be the challenge at the beginning of the season.”

Any news on the upcoming premiere of Legends of Tomorrow? Specifically regarding Avalance? –Stefanie The forecast calls for an avalanche of Avalance goodness.

Who/what will be the villain this season on Legends of Tomorrow? –Kevin As the wackadoodle new trailer suggests, pissy fairy godmothers and murderous unicorns are among the magical mischief-makers Sara & Co. will face on a weekly basis. But when it comes to the Big Bad, “It’s complicated. Because it changes,” co-showrunner Keto Shimizu told us at The CW’s Fall Launch event. “I don’t know if I can say it specifically without giving it away. But I will say it’s sort of ‘humanity’s own failings.’” (Being The CW, you can trust that Humanity’s Failings will be played by someone young and attractive.)

I want to know everything about Manifest! —Kristi Would you settle for something? Because show boss Jeff Rake told me that on or around Episode 8, “We’re going to discover an important alliance, unlikely as it is, between [NSA Agent] Vance and Ben, as they both come to discover that things are going on that neither of them know about.”

What’s next for Chicago Fire‘s Stella? —Rachel This Wednesday’s episode delves into Stella Kidd’s past. “There’s going to be someone from her high school days who’s going to show up at the firehouse and tell us a few more things about Stella,” showrunner Derek Haas previews. What did Miranda Rae Mayo learn about her character in the process? “I found that back in the day, she was a bit of a punk,” the actress shares. “She was a bit of a troublemaker, had purple hair at prom, so that’s fun. Looking at who she is, who she’s become and the Stella that we know today, all of that makes perfect sense.”

Will we see any former Grey’s Anatomy series regulars returning in guest appearances in Season 15? —Eduardo Funny you should ask. An upcoming episode will pay tribute to a number of deceased characters, although, sadly, it will do so without the assistance of their portrayers. The Nov. 1 installment finds the docs of Grey Sloan “remembering loved ones they lost” when a patient whose family is celebrating Day of the Dead is admitted, per the outing’s official logline. A Grey’s source, however, tells us the episode will not include any new footage of “dearly departed” T.R. Knight (who played George), Chyler Leigh (Lexie) or Eric Dane (Mark).

So excited about Legacies, are there any shout-outs or Easter eggs in the pilot episode? —PaperCarta TVLine’s Andy Swift reports that while the pilot establishes Legacies as an entity all its own, the first episode is absolutely peppered with nods to both The Vampire Diaries and The Originals, some more subtle than others. In addition to a pivotal cameo from TVD‘s Matt Donovan (played by Zach Roerig), longtime fans will pick up on familiar names, stories and even spells.

Any news yet on Salvation? —Sharon I’m hearing that a decision on Season 3 might not be made until the end of the month.

I’m “all in” for the Conners spinoff. Any scoop? –Craig CBS’ Living Biblically didn’t make it to a second season, but the comedy will enjoy a mini-revival of sorts when in The Conners‘ second episode, Lindsey Kraft plays a character who crosses paths with both Sara Gilbert’s Darlene and Johnny Galecki’s David. (If I may connect the dots: Gilbert co-starred with Kraft in Living Biblically, while Galecki was one of the short-lived sitcom’s EPs.)

Anything new on Hawaii Five-0? –Ellie ‘Member when we told you that Ian Anthony Dale won’t make his Season 9 debut until Nov. 2? Well, when he does show up, I’m hearing that viewers will “see an Adam like they never have before” — until, that is, Danny intervenes.

Any scoop on This Is Us? —Rebecca We were wondering just how heavily American Gods‘ Yetide Badaki will recur as the late William’s neighbor Chi Chi on this season of the NBC juggernaut, so we asked. “I can say that I have a couple more episodes to shoot,” the actress shared earlier this month.

Now that the bunker on Supernatural is running like a well-oiled machine, Sam is in Dean’s position as the leader and everyone has formed a tight family unit, what is Dean’s role? How does Dean fit in? —Adder “I think Dean is really proud that Sam could step up and not just be the kid brother,” executive producer Eugenie Ross-Leming says. “It’s sort of the fulfillment of some of Dean’s goals, so it’s not a bad thing. And they level off. They resume a relationship that they’re comfortable with.”

Can I get any scoop about Chicago P.D.? —Carlynn Showrunner Rick Eid plans to shed light on Hailey’s background with what is “a really, hopefully, powerful episode that explores that exact issue.”

Anything on the new season of Star? —Liam Showrunner Karin Gist tells the Inside Line that Season 3 of the Fox drama “is all about what it’s like after our characters get a little taste of success. How do they manage this new fame when their personal lives are all taking unexpected twists and turns? There’s more sex, more drama and more music as they fight to stay together while feeling the pull to strike out on their own. Meanwhile, Carlotta’s personal struggles with Jahil’s death take her on an emotional journey that reveals her deepest secret….” (Personally, all I heard was “more sex.”)

Are there any details about the 100th episode of The Flash, and when that cast party might happen? —Jen We tried again to crack the 100th-episode nut, but Candice Patton was the very best soldier, holding her cards close to the vest. After reminding that costar Tom Cavanagh fittingly directed the milestone hour, she said, “For fans, it’s special in the sense that it kind of really revisits what makes our show special.” As for any Easter eggs that eagle-eyed viewers might collect, “There’s a lot of good stuff that I wish I could say to you right now that’s happening… but I can’t, unfortunately,” Patton deferred. “But there are a lot of special things happening in that episode.” And regarding the party, all you need to know is that TVLine will be there with Wells, er bells, on.

Do you have any spoilers for Chicago Med‘s Will and Natalie? –Allyson The recent drama in Will’s personal life, and the secret he must keep as a result, “really drives a wedge between [him and Natalie],” star Torrey DeVitto previews. The storyline also finds the doc “butting heads quite a bit” with his brother Jay, who is “basically going to be like an honorary Med character this season,” actor Nick Gehlfuss says. “He’s coming over quite a bit.”

Real questions from real human beings get real answers! If you need the Inside Line on a favorite show, email [email protected]! (With reporting by Vlada Gelman and Kim Roots)

Source: https://tvline.com/2018/10/17/supergirl-season-4-spoilers-kara-lena-friendship-luthor-rivalry/

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I feel like I'm in the minority of the fandom when I say I love klaus and care but not like how they are now. Idk why but for some reason there's something oddly forced about how easy things seem between them now. And I'm also annoyed because I didn't want Caroline to come over just to be with Klaus or follow him around. I really wanted her to come over and have a real story. I hate seeing her used as just a prop for another man AGAIN as if that's her only true use as a character.

Well, the thing with Caroline, I was never under the impression that she’d come and have her own story on the Originals. The problem, or not problem, is that we already have a lot of characters who have their own thing going on and someone who was coming in as a guest star was never going to get their full-fledged storyline. Especially since she’s coming in during the last season which is only 13 episodes long. The problem of Caroline being a prop for another man is not a TO problem per se, rather it’s a TVD one, where she was used as such over and over again in her own show where there was plenty of room for her to have her own storylines in isolation of whoever man she was with at the moment. At the Originals? A very very long shot. Not unless she was moved over wayyyy back in season 2 and was integrated into the main cast. Which we all know was never going to happen.

In terms of the “forced” ease. The thing is, neither Klaus nor Caroline are the Klaus and Caroline who met each other back back in MF. Caroline is not seventeen and insecure anymore. She grew up. A LOT. So much actually in the span of a decade or so. And she’s so much more Klaus’ equal than she was back in TVD. And so did Klaus. Klaus over the course of the Originals has also gone through a lot of change. He may still be temperamental and murderous and all those things, but he’s also a lot more in-touch with his softer side. And he’s far more capable of holding himself accountable to mistakes. And, perhaps most importantly, he learned to listen better. So that really creates a good environment for him and Caroline because Caroline had always been a kind of harangeur constructive critic and Klaus had always been willing to listen to her on some level. He’s more open to that now. The other thing that’s very important here, other than the changed Klaroline, there’s also the fact that what made them so antagonistic towards each other back in MF just no longer holds. Klaus is not a threat to Caroline anymore. He’s the father of one of her students and a friend, a genuine one, who she cares about rather deeply and is willing to show her care towards because showing it doesn’t scare her anymore. Caroline is no longer on the other team, she’s no longer Klaus’ blonde distraction. She’s a friend who Klaus has a genuine connection with and is seeing the acknowledgement of said connection reciprocated over and over in their interactions.

At the end of the day, it’s completely up to you how you read their scenes. But to me, this is how I’ve always imagined they’d reconnect.

#anon #answered #klaroline #Anonymous

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