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blueopinions49 · 1 year
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Understanding Type 5
An intro to enneagram 5
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Beth Harmon (Queens Gambit) INTJ 5w4 so/sp 
Core Desire (Exploration of the Mind)- They crave knowledge and understanding of the world around them. 
Vice (Avarice)-They will cling to things (Not necessarily material) and keep them guarded in order to feel a sense of comfort. 
Fixation (Miser)- Will hide away their knowledge and general understanding of things due to feeling like it doesn't give as much result as it takes to share it. 
Wings 
5w4 (The Philosopher)- With the w4 they become more interested in metaphysical constructs and imaginative processes. Interested in the aesthetic and symbolic representation of things. Might be more introverted possibly a bit more on the intense side. Emotionally inaccessible while maintaining a level of intesity. But due to being a withdrawn type and a rejection type all of this emotional intensity is purely internal. 
5w6 (The Troubleshooter)- While the 5w4 will focus on metaphysical constructs and the understanding of the metaphysics on knowledge the 5w6 will be more interested in the  categorization of this knowledge. Will be more practical than then 5w4. More likely to be interested in the applicability of this knowledge in the outer world. Due to their interest in practicality they are gonna be more interested in methodical processes than imaginative ones. 
Triads- Head (5-6-7)
they have a tendencies to withhold all of their emotions to avoid all form of emotional attachment. 
Harmonic Triad- Competency (1-3-5)
Focuses on the gain of information and performs action in an “objective” manner withholding their emotions from getting in the way. 
Hornevian Triad- Withdrawn (4-5-9)
Detach themselves of reality to preserve their selves due to their being avarice they will withhold allot of themselves around others. 
Object Relations- Rejections (2-5-8)
They will reject any form of emotional attachment that comes their way. will withhold from any form of emotional attachment. 
Subtypes
Social (so)- The social 5 focuses on sharing their knowledge to others they want to expand on information. This subtype will use the knowledge and sharing it in order to keep themselves from feeling. They are more on the social side due to them wanting to share the knowledge they have gained in their life. They are extremely driven, social and competitive. Due to this qualities they can look like 3s and 7s. 
Ex- Benoit Blanc (Knives Out) INTJ 5w4 so/sp, Reed Richards (MARVEL COMICS) INTP 5w6 so/sp and Lara Croft ISFP 5w6 so/sp
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Sexual (sx)- As the counter type of 5 this subtype will focus on gaining the perfect relationship. They will start the relationship slowly by putting you via certain trails if you will. This subtype is only interested in connecting with someone who they can share their inner world with another who understands them. They can be more sensitive than the other 5s and due to this they'll look like 4s while still being a 5 at their core.
Ex-Joe Goldberg (You) INFJ 5w4 sx/sp, Mister Darcy (Pride and Prejudice)  INTJ 5w4 sx/sp and Mother Miranda (RE Village) INTJ 5w6 sx/sp
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Self-Preservation (sp) the self-preservation type 5 will hide themselves from others by maintaining themselves away from others by creating physical and metaphysical walls between themselves and others. However they minimize themselves in order to have a safe space for themselves in comfort. They can be more social however it's a social battery that can run out. They can look like 6s sometimes. 
Ex-Alice Liddle (Alice in Wonderland) INTP 5w6 sp/sx, Raven INTJ 5w4 (Teen Titans)  sp/sx and L (Death Note) INTP 5w4 sp/so
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Moves (Positive and Negative)
Moves to 8
Positive- They become In tune with themselves and uses their anger to pursuit their goals more. They become assertive in their wants
Negative-They become more withdrawn and uses their anger punitively to push others away more.
Moves to 7
Positive- They become in tune with the enviorement less paranoid and fearful. Becomes more interested in the outer world and experiences they can find in it. 
Negative- Overindulges and becomes distracted easily. 
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rainytypology · 7 months
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Enneagram Type 5
An overview of an enneagram type. Not an expert. May change later.
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Center: Head/Thinking/Fear
Other triads: Competent, Withdrawn, Rejection
Basic motivation: To be competent, knowledgeable
Basic fear: Being useless and helpless
Wings: 5w4, 5w6
Disintegration/stress: 7
Integration/growth: 8
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Traits
- Strengths -
Insightful
Curious and observant
Analytical and rational
Independent
Innovative and inventive
- Weaknesses -
Detached and distant
Can isolate self too often
Intense, doesn't understand feelings
Nihilistic
Feeling incapable, incompetent
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Wings
- 5w4 -
5 and 4 are withdrawn types so a 5w4 is a very internalized type. 5w4s often need a lot of alone time to reflect and recharge. This type is a deep and sensitive thinker, very observant and detail oriented. Can be very focused and attentive. They work hard when it comes to things they are passionate about.
- 5w6 -
The 6 wing makes 5 a little more open and receptive to people. They're quite organized and structured with a plan for pretty much everything, considering 5's need to be knowledgeable and 6's need to be prepared all the time. They can be creative problem solvers and are quite practical.
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Disintegration: 7
Disintegrating to 7 shows up in a 5 as scatterbrained behavior. Easily distracted and impulsive. Can have a hard time concentrating as their mind is filled with too much and keeps jumping from one thing to the next. A disintegrated 5 is very restless.
Integration: 8
Integration to 8 means a 5 is learning to become more comfortable in participating in the real world. Fear no longer makes them want to hide away all the time. They are capable of living outside of their minds and fully living in reality. They don't get stuck analyzing choices over and over again to the point of paralysis - they learn to just do things regardless of their paranoia.
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Subtypes of 5
- Sp 5 -
Sp 5s are the most protective over their time and energy. They have clear boundaries they are not shy to set. Sp 5s have a need for independence and will not allow anyone or anything to take it away from them. This subtype is much more of an observer of life rather than a participant. They would rather focus their time and energy into personal projects that bring them life.
- Sx 5 -
Sx 5s are less concerned with boundaries as they seek to find a person who has a similar mindset like them. They want to find someone who can truly understand them so that the sx 5 can comfortably open up their private world to them. However, their independence can still make them fearful - it can take a lot of time for them to genuinely open up. They try to attract by having various interests and having interesting inner lives.
- So 5 -
So 5s want to be seen as competent and wise by others. They want to be seen as intellectual and so will be drawn to opportunities that allow them to showcase their knowledge and skills. However, their need to be alone conflicts with the desire to be viewed as an intelligent role model. They don't want to be overwhelmed by the world yet still want to participate in it. Although a social subtype, they may still struggle to connect with others, but they will still be drawn to like minded individuals.
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5s are bigger sadbois than 4s. both are emo as fuck. 4 emos are crying out for their lost utopia and crying out for love. because they disintegrate into a 2 and idealize integration into the idealistic 1. 5 emos are like "its over. I can never be saved. the world is too big and crushing for me. lets bleed and die and become robots". they disintegrate into 7 where they are lost in the big picture and become sad about their lack of impact in the enormous world (because they lack the positivity of a true 7). and they idealize integration into 8 which is an over-embodied animal, a "beast" with zero idealism whatsoever. but they also seem to fear this greatly... ???
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mistype360 · 22 days
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mbti/enneagram typing for @sevilemar
istp 5w6 sp/so 584
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enneagram: 5w6 sp/so 584
i notice that in most answers about your activities, you almost seem to view them as a "skill" that you collect, rather than something that you do solely for the enjoyment. you're also pretty aware of how these things help you, particularly in the future or in daily life.
for that reason, you likely have a 5 somewhere in your tritype. 5's like to "collect knowledge/information," which seems to match with your intent of collecting "skills." this is also why many 5's main desire is to be "competent" in the world, because they believe it will help them in the future or in life, as you describe.
this is also what differentiates you from a type 3. an enneagram 3 would try to be more "competent" in order to succeed by societal standards, but i don't see you as the type of person to want to climb that ladder. for instance, you say that you find yourself analyzing people bc it helps you with your wants (make life easier, don't hurt you), which seems to me that you don't really care about success, you do it for yourself (5w6 - somewhat focused on security). while it isn't the sole reason, this is why you have a higher valuation on sp than on so or even sx.
you also repeat a couple times that you find yourself pretty interested in self improvement. i don't think this is EXCLUSIVE to type 5's (which would be ironic- since there are people from each type that are interested in enneagram and self improvement), but again, i think your intentions speak a lot more to why you are a type 5.
as for your wing, it seems to me that you have a so6. in questions about leadership and work, you say that you don't like doing things harmful because you don't agree with the intentions to maximize profit. you also say that your leadership style is personal, and you like to get to know the people. plus, you say that you find yourself valuing efficiency in more social/professional settings. i think this description by haiki.es about social 6's puts it well:
"They tend to orient themselves toward duty and doing the right thing. They can be quite efficient and responsible."
your tritype seemed balanced with each type, so it was hard to point out what exact fixes you had. somewhere in there though, i see you might have an 8w7, as i notice with some of your descriptions on anger as well as your emphasize on having new experiences. the 7 is especially present, although i can't repeat it in your tritype (although this makes sense, as your are very thinking prominent). your 4 wasn't too big, but it was more seen than having a 3 or a 2 :p
mbti:
(link for anyone who needs help understanding cognitive functions!! + feel free to ask if confused)
for your mbti, you say that you learn from past, live in present, and are pretty much comfortable with future because it's "unpredictable."
this suggests that you have balanced sensory/intuitive functions, meaning they are placed in your aux/tert placements. the part about being comfortable with the future for the reason that it's unpredictable AND being pretty much comfortable with the past + present suggests to me that you are pretty balanced between si and se, so you are very sensory based.
something that solidified for me why you have ti is when you say that when you learn, you "put everything into [your] own categories and systems," and then "integrate it into what [you] already know." this is pretty much the defintion of ti.
the part about feeling stifled with set times/lists and liking structure, but not TOO much suggests that you have a lot of ti. also about how you disagree with rules, and might even break them if they don't align with your beliefs, means maybe even a slight more ti than you have si.
conclusion: ISTP
you are def very sensory based in general, so your si is mostly equal to your se. for that reason, since you have such a strong ti, i'd go with typing you as an ISTP (ti-se-ni-fe), which is the most likely. this also pretty much fits the vibe of your questoinnaire/answers!
if i type you by a crazier method, i'd say you are an ISTJ (ti-si-ne-fe) by a less commonly accepted/known way to structure mbti functions, since i think that you have higher si than ne. this is an unusual typing, since many think that two functions can't be back-to-back extroverted or introverted. also, this isn't the same as 99% ISTJ descriptions you find online, but i'll link some abt this specific type if it helps:
debate/analysis on this istj
most comprehensive blog on this structure i've ever seen
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jadewing-realms · 9 months
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aesthetic - naven
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I want to watch the universe expand. I want to break it into pieces small enough to understand and put it all back together again in the quiet of my private collection.
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It feels like an out-of-body experience, but something gets lost from a safe distance. Now I can't put my mind to rest, and I can't help but second guess living behind this one-way mirror.
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I'm hypnotized by this anomaly. Such strange, uncharted territory. A white flag waves in the dark between my head and my heart. My armour falls apart, as if I could let myself be seen, even deeply known.
Like I was already brave enough to let go.
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And now I want to generously lose this energy that I've been hanging onto so desperately. I finally feel the universe expand. It's hidden in heartbeats, exhales, and in the hope of open hands.
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lyrics - five - sleeping at last
art credits - kenny callicutt | @silent.steppi | @aestheticcozystudios | brandon stricker
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phlve · 1 year
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Subtype Trait Structures: sp5
Retentiveness
The conservation E5 keeps their emotions and thoughts to themselves. This subtype has learned to be self-sufficient, since he does not expect much from the world. They stick to themselves, being pessimistic about receiving care and protection, or being able to take what they need.
Not Giving
This subtype has the fantasy that, by giving, it will lose what little it has. The conservation E5 fears commitment, since it implies a debt that he does not feel capable of satisfying. He wants to be completely free, without obstacles, without ties to anyone. They do not feel like they have much to give.
Detachment
The conservation E5 withdraws from the world; detachment is a form of withdrawal. They do not feel the need to relate, nor are they interested. Deep down, they fear not being capable of filling the other's expectations.
Fear of Being Swallowed
The conservation E5 has the most difficulty with setting limits of the E5 subtypes. He feels used and abused, confirming his disappointment with the world. Anger is not expressed, rather, this subtype chooses to disappear. They protect their private space as much as possible, being susceptible to invasion.
Excessively Docile
Over-docility leads this subtype to interfere with his own spontaneity and with his preferences. This over-docility would not be possible without a strongly repressed need for love.
Self-sufficient
The conservation E5 is independent, due to the fear of being swallowed, and due to the belief that he does not have much to give. He does not ask for help; the world is not to be trusted. This mistrust originated from the primary relationship with the caregivers, who did not respond adequately to the person. Experiencing great frustration when not being able to support others, the conservation E5 chooses to retire from relationships. Despite his self-sufficiency, his material life is often lacking, because he does not need much either. This subtype can choose low-paying jobs because he values independence above all else.
Emotionally Insensitive
Despite being sensitive, the conservation E5 buries his emotions, and nobody knows about them. He has “learned” that what happens to him is not relevant, and that showing emotions will cause discomfort. He can forget how he feels, leading to anhedonia. It is difficult to express emotions.
Orientation to Knowledge
Knowledge becomes a safeguard in the face of the world. It can be a way of relating to the other. Knowledge brings order and analysis to chaos. Everything is safer in the mind, where he is completely free and autonomous.
Strangeness
Suppressing feelings and avoiding life impoverishes the experiences of the conservation E5. He feels empty on the inside. He describes it as an existential desert. This feeling of living dead is due to the disconnection with the body and the emotions. It is also a feeling of strangeness that makes him feel lost, like a weirdo on the planet. He does not feel belonging to this world.
Guilt
The conservation E5 feels guilt for existing, as if he did not deserve life, as if his existence was a mistake. This subtype will blame himself for everything. By embracing a detached indifference, they feel guilty. Guilt can manifest as a vague sense of inferiority, a vulnerability to intimidation, and shyness.
Self-demanding
This subtype is a perfectionist who feels like a “loser.” He is very demanding of himself, and over-analyzing his actions leads to a sense of lack.
Negativism
The conservation E5 is an oppositionist and a rebel on the inside. His anger manifests as passive-aggression. They can be forgetful and evasive. He does not like being told what to do.
Hypersensitivity
Hypersensitivity is an introverted disposition. This subtype feels unprotected against environmental stimuli. Emotional numbness is a way to protect against overstimulation. He does not want to interfere with the world; he does not want to harm or interfere. The most obvious manifestation of sensitivity and compassion will be towards nature and animals.
Renunciation of Action
The conservation E5 tends to procrastinate. Inaction can manifest as non-commitment, passivity, and apathy. Inaction can be the result of wanting to keep his intentions hidden.
Source: PDB Wiki
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estpunk · 1 year
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Alice in Borderland: Shuntarō Chishiya (INTJ 5w4 549 sx/sp)
MBTI
Dominant Ni
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His Ni is apparent many times in the manga. He chose to stay in one spot during the tag game to observe his enemies first (Ni prefering prediction over Se action). His dominant Ni is also very apparent when he set Arisu up. When he saw Aguni's confusion when he opened the black envelope he concluded that the content of the envelope is most likely empty. After setting Arisu up, he picked information again when Aguni looked into one spot because he felt uneasy that Arisu tried to break the fake safe, hence he was looking at the location of the real safe. He used his Ni briefly in blackjack too, guessing that one of the players is a magician because of how he looks.
He used his Ni a lot during the Beauty Contest game. He thought that the success rate for the King (Kuzuruyu) and tried to infer the meaning behind it and considered the success rate to be fair. He knows that Kuzuruyu is a lawyer, that the game venue is a court with gigantic scales as the decoration. He also mentioned that the value of all life is equal is the ideals of a lawyer. As the game progressed, all of the players' choice are nearing the number zero, which is an equilibrium (there will be no exchange of points cause rationally everyone will choose zero in the end), which is in line with Kuzuruyu's ideals. He then understood what Kuzuruyu is trying to weigh (he is trying to find the meaning behind the game). After implementing his strategy for the game he saw Kuzuruyu keeping up with his new strategy which means that he already predicted that this could happen and he concluded that Kuzuruyu is trying to weigh the value of life from the game. Then as they conversed more he found that Kuzuruyu is unable to choose the worth of a life and he inferred that he became the citizen to let the game decide the worth for him and hoped that he'll eventually become numb to it (before that he asked Kuzuruyu if he kept participating in these games and becomes the citizen himself and losing his human emotions would it increase the pain and Kuzuruyu said it's possible).
He also kept his eye on Daimon and inferred that she is a frank person because she kept asking things that she doesn't know to other people. Because of her personality he predicted that she would choose a random number. He narrowed down her number of choice and associated some of the numbers that he eliminated with the numbers that are usually seen a lot in daily life (64 with a ding from a video game console commercial and so on).
Auxiliary Te
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He used his Te too in the tag game. He chose a spot where he can observe everything from above and he thought that it doesn't make sense to wander around when you don't know where the it will emerge with limited visibility in the apartment. He also used Arisu to bait the real safe from Aguni (knowing that Hatter is a cautious person, so the safe must be hidden) when the militants are celebrating his coronation as the King of the beach (finding the safe without bait during an opportunity like this wouldn't be as effective and could get you caught or you wouldn't find the safe at all when they're going back).
He also used his Te in the blackjack game. He knows that if he knows how many cards are left then he will know which cards are left since all of the decks are the same, then he categorised which cards are advantageous to the players and which ones are advantageous to the dealers and counted the ratio of the said cards from the deck and from this formula he can decide how much he should bet. During the last few rounds of blackjack he knows that the old lady despised one of the players, a trick master, because it reminded her of her husband (that player has used his gun to kill another player, so he can't use his gun again), so he cheated again to trigger the game system to allow the lady to use the gun and of course that lady killed the trick master.
During the Beauty Contest game he decided to break the equilibrium by choosing the number 100, knowing that Daimon is a frank person and because of his choice Daimon won the round and repaid him by choosing 100 in the next round.
Tertiary Fi
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He sometimes evaluates his personal values like in the tag game when he said that as long as he survives, he doesn't care how many people will die and he reflected on this value, whether or not it's human to have that mindset. He also justified his wrongdoing after he set Arisu up by saying that there isn't anything that someone shouldn't do in order to survive.
When Daimon died during the Beauty Contest he said that her sacrifice is not worth the exchange of his own life and he realized that his emptiness is there even before the Borderlands. During the last round of the Beauty Contest, he said to Kuzuruyu that equality is impossible since there will always be one side that will be sacrificed to reach "equality" or to implement "justice" (black and white Fi judgment due to auxiliary Te). After figuring out Kuzuruyu's personal values, he played with it, forcing him to make a choice with his value and slightly mocking him that if he doesn't like to make decisions (since Kuzuruyu can't decide the worth of a life), he can just kill him off since the rules of the game is impartial. After Kuzuruyu died he realized that he thought Kuzuruyu as an interesting person because he envied his interest in life, which he doesn't have.
After he was shot, he told Arisu that he used to view the human beings as stupid beings. He said that he despised the sincere ones, he berated people who put in their effort, hurt a lot of people, and shunned a lot of people who have good will and intentions. He realised that he was probably jealous cause those are the things that he doesn't have. He felt like he has no purpose and his mere existence is just to show how empty a human can be and deep down he just wanted to be understood. After he went back to the real world he decided to live an honest life.
Inferior Se
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His Se inferior showed up during the tag game because he prefers to know the prediction first instead of acting in the now. He also used the things around him during the Witch Hunt to make a flamethrower.
Shadow Functions
Opposing Ne
During the game of Tag when he saw Karube suggesting the players to work together he doubted that his idea will work out easily. He considered the possibilities of the other players risking themselves to go to the walkways to find the base, risking themselves to reveal their locations to the it, and risking themselves to trust the intel from another player. His assumptions are later proved to be wrong cause Usagi risked herself to work together with everyone else.
Critical Parent Ti
During the Beauty Contest game he quietly criticized the old man for using his own logical deduction, using his own intelligence as his basis and he thought that if he kept doing that he won't win the game and won't understand the workings of an "idiot". He also called out Kuzuruyu's obsession with equality is illogical since he is the one who is trying to assign superiority or inferiority to human lives by creating the game.
Trickster Fe
During the Witch Hunt he said to Mira that he never wanted to understand the hearts of others. During the battle royale he said to Arisu that he despised sincere people and he couldn't help but to shun people's good will and intentions.
Demon Si
No data.
Enneagram
5w4 549 sx/sp
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*this includes my own interpretation of his character
As you can see in the manga he values information and deem it important. He keeps collecting things after the games too. Since 5s are afraid of being deprived of their resources, he told Karube that his information is not for free.
As you can see in the manga him being neglected by his parents form his 5 core. As the result of the neglect he becomes empty and apathetic (one of 5 traits). He was never taught how to love and he has to conquer the world on his own since he was a kid and depended on himself, making himself competent (hence the 5 fear of being incompetent, making them hoard a lot of information and knowledge for themselves). His 4 wing makes him envy what people have that he doesn't have. He threw a letter of a father who wanted to redeem himself because he envied him as he doesn't have a father who really cared for him. As 5w4 he is jealous of other people who are seemingly not empty and have a purpose. Because of his emptiness he feels that he has no purpose, that life is meaningless. The result of his jealousy is his antagonistic behavior to people. He tried to fulfill that emptiness with some random knowledge (you can see that when he quotes some random knowledge about utopia or monalisa in the manga) and pursued medicine to see if he could care about life. As 5w4 he felt that he came to the world being neglected and not being accepted as who he is by his parents and he assumed that they had him just to look normal and just to be a good hospital director. Since the void of his 5 is endless, he might view that to give is to deprive himself, so he becomes selfish.
Even though he has no interest in the concept of life, his 4 wing makes him intrigued to find what's missing in himself, his sense of purpose and he just want people to understand him and to see him as who he is.
From the explanation above you can conclude that he has 5 and 4 in his tritype. His gut type is a 9 since he doesn't provoke people that much and tried to be peaceful even though he is frustrated. Because his 4 his higher in the tritype stack than his 9, he doesn't really mind to tell how stupid people are.
His Sx instinctual variant makes him want to find a person that he finds to be interesting in Borderland (that's like his sole purpose there) and he finally met Kuzuruyu. His Sp second makes him consider his own survival, but not at the expense of his Sx since he is willing to take risks to find that one-on-one connection and turns out what makes Kuzuruyu interesting to him is him being the opposite of himself, valuing life even when his life is the cost.
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Enneagram type 5 continued 😆 in memes
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Taylor Swift Songs as Enneagram Personality Types
The Enneagram is a personality test that classifies your personality in one of nine categories, each with different traits. Most of Taylor Swift's songs fall into two of the personality types: type 4 (the individualist) and type 9 (the peacemaker). The songs on these lists are mostly in album order - however, there are a few added onto the ends of a few of the lists that took me a little longer to place that come out of order.
TYPE 1: THE REFORMER
The reformer tends to be rational. This person is idealistic and principled - they live by their values. They are purposeful and self-controlled, and tend to be perfectionists. The songs I classified as Type 1's are songs that focus on the ideals in relationships and life. They're songs where Taylor has a purpose, and some of them tend to have more rational thoughts behind them.
Tim McGraw
Mary's Song (Oh My My My)
Fifteen
Untouchable
We Were Happy
Don't You
Last Kiss
I Almost Do
The Last Time
I Wish You Would
How You Get The Girl
Clean
End Game
The Archer
The 1
This Is Me Trying
Epiphany
The Lakes
Happiness
It's Time To Go
Mastermind
Dear Reader
TYPE 2: THE HELPER
The helper is a caring person who genuinely cares about other people. They tend to be interpersonal and generous. These people are people-pleasing, and can be possessive. The songs I classified as Type 2's are ones where she clearly shows caring for other people, sometimes to the extent of people-pleasing. She tends to be possessive in some of these songs, too.
Teardrops On My Guitar
Tied Together with a Smile
Stay Beautiful
Hey Stephen
Jump Then Fall
That's When
Sparks Fly
Enchanted
Stay Stay Stay
Begin Again
Run
Welcome to New York
Wildest Dreams
Delicate
Lover
Afterglow
It's Nice to Have a Friend
Seven
Marjorie
You're On Your Own, Kid
Glitch
Sweeter Than Fiction
Sad Beautiful Tragic
Ronan
Soon You'll Get Better
Safe & Sound
TYPE 3: THE ACHIEVER
The achiever is a success-oriented, pragmatic, and hard working person. This person is very driven and adaptive, and is very image-conscious. The songs classified under this category show how conscious Taylor is of her own image. They're the songs where she's trying to show herself in a positive light. These are the songs where she shows herself as a hard worker and just how successful she is, without caring about those who try to bring her down.
A Place in This World
Change
Superstar
The Other Side of the Door
Speak Now
Mean
Long Live
I Bet You Think About Me
Style
Shake It Off
Call It What You Want
I Think He Knows
ME!
Mirrorball
Gold Rush
Midnight Rain
Karma
Today Was a Fairytale
I Heart ?
You All Over Me
TYPE 4: THE INDIVIDUALIST
The individualist tends to be withdrawn and sensitive. This person is self-absorbed and dramatic, and tends to be temperamental. This person is very expressive. These songs are dramatic and temperamental, the ones where Taylor is bolder about herself - she is in the right in all of these songs, even when she isn't.
Picture to Burn
A Perfectly Good Heart
You Belong With Me
The Way I Loved You
Forever & Always (Piano Version)
Come In With The Rain
Mr. Perfectly Fine
Better Than Revenge
Holy Ground
Girl At Home
Blank Space
I Did Something Bad
Look What You Made Me Do
The Man
Death by a Thousand Cuts
The Last Great American Dynasty
Illicit Affairs
No Body, No Crime
Cowboy Like Me
Anti-Hero
Vigilante Shit
High Infidelity
Carolina
Invisible
Breathe
All Too Well
All Too Well (10 Minute Version)
My Tears Ricochet
TYPE 5: THE INVESTIGATOR
The investigator is intense and cerebral - they tend to think more with their brains than with their hearts. They are perceptive and innovative, but tend to be secretive and isolated. The songs classified as Type 5's are the ones where Taylor finds herself isolated and alone. A lot of these songs tend to be very intelligently written.
The Outside
White Horse
The Story of Us
Innocent
Treacherous
Starlight
Nothing New
I Know Places
Getaway Car
I Forgot That You Existed
Exile
Peace
'Tis the Damn Season
Tolerate It
Coney Island
Ivy
Labyrinth
Would've, Could've, Should've
Beautiful Ghosts
Eyes Open
Evermore
TYPE 6: THE LOYALIST
The loyalist is committed and security-oriented. They tend to be anxious and suspicious of those around them. They are responsible and engaging. Taylor tends to be anxious and suspicious in a lot of the songs I classified as Type 6's. They're the songs where she's seeking security and comfort, but may not always be receiving it. Things are going wrong in many of these songs.
Cold As You
Tell Me Why
Bye Bye Baby
If This Was a Movie
I Knew You Were Trouble
The Lucky One
The Moment I Knew
Forever Winter
New Romantics
Don't Blame Me
This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things
False God
August
Hoax
Question...?
I Don't Wanna Live Forever
The Very First Night
TYPE 7: THE ENTHUSIAST
The enthusiast is spontaneous and fun-loving. They are busy and versatile, but they tend to be a bit distractible and scattered. These songs have a lot of energy and are fun. These are the dance songs, the ones that make you want to move. This is the smallest list of the nine personality types. While a lot of Taylor Swift songs could fall under this personality type, most of them tend to fall under another type better, hence why this list is so small.
I'm Only Me When I'm With You
Forever & Always
Ours
22
We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together
Message in a Bottle
All You Had to Do Was Stay
Wonderland
Gorgeous
Paper Rings
London Boy
Lavender Haze
Bejeweled
Paris
TYPE 8: THE CHALLENGER
The challenger is a powerful and self-confident person. This person tends to be dominating - you're always aware of their presence when they walk in the room. They are decisive and willful, and oftentimes tend to be confrontational. The songs under this category tend to be confrontational and angry. Many are songs where she is feeling confident in herself. These songs tend to have a lot of energy, but aren't as happy and energetic as Type 7 songs.
Should've Said No
Fearless
You're Not Sorry
Mine
Dear John
Haunted
Superman
State of Grace
Red
Better Man
Out of the Woods
Bad Blood
...Ready For It?
Dancing with Our Hands Tied
Dress
Cruel Summer
Miss Americana & the Heartbreak Prince
You Need to Calm Down
Mad Woman
Betty
Champagne Problems
Dorothea
Long Story Short
Closure
Babe
TYPE 9: THE PEACEMAKER
The peacemaker is easygoing and self-effacing. They are receptive and really good listeners. They are agreeable and complacent, and they tend to avoid conflict as much as possible. The songs in this category are ones where Taylor is easygoing, calm, and agreeable. She tends to be open to listening to the other person's point of view in these songs, as well.
Our Song
Love Story
The Best Day
Today Was a Fairytale
Back to December
Never Grow Up
Everything Has Changed
Come Back... Be Here
This Love
You Are In Love
So It Goes...
King of My Heart
New Year's Day
Cornelia Street
Daylight
Cardigan
Invisible String
Willow
Right Where You Left Me
Maroon
Snow on the Beach
Sweet Nothing
The Great War
Bigger Than The Whole Sky
Hits Different
Crazier
Christmas Tree Farm
Beautiful Eyes
Curious what your Enneagram personality type is? Take the quiz here. Afterwards, see if you agree about the songs I picked matching your personality!
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the-anxious-sloth · 1 year
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liushen and bingqiu both make a lot of sense for shen yuan’s personality type
according to PDB he’s intp and ennea 5
i read something a few years back saying that this type is usually “pestered” into a relationship but they should go for types for whom they actually feel like pursuing themselves
idk i just really kin shen yuan
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oh-obrien · 21 days
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Realizing I’m a type 5 enneagram made me realize why friends to lovers is my favorite trope …
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blueopinions49 · 3 months
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Healthy/Unhealthy Type 5
Healthy Social 5
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Milo Thatch (5w4 so/sp)- he rejects allot of the traditional notion about the E5 we usually see. He is open about his feelings and is extremely extroverted, always eager to share his knowledge . He is always able to express how he feels and live in the moment.
Barbara Gordon (5w6 so/sx)- Even at her lowest Barb is always capable of thinking of solutions. She's always there for the team and always open to helping others.
Dale Cooper (5w4 so/sx)- The most charismatic E5 in media. He was always up to learn about things and kept a very clear mind on what was going on in the moment. Always seemed to care about getting his facts right and was open to understanding others.
Unhealthy Social 5
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Doctor Doom (5w4 so/sx)- I was very close to typing him as an SO3 but honestly after paying a bit more attention it's very clear he is an SO5. Dooms whole idea revolves around outsmarting Reed Richards and proving he is his superior drives him into obsession and isolation.
Beth Harmon (5w6 so/sp)- Her desire to be the best at chest drives her to obsession and as the series goes on we see her disintegrate towards 8 and eventually moving back to her normal self. In the end we see a Beth who has let go of her need of perfection in chest and just finds enjoyment in the sport.
Quan Chi (5w6 so/sp)- His desire for knowledge intertwines with his need for power and control. Eventually deciding to create and army of the undead and resurrect multiple people who have been long gone.
Healthy Self-preservation 5
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Peter Parker TASM (5w6 sp/sx)- This version of Peter Parker is more focused on the look for knowledge and understanding. He is a bit less focused on the external world but rather his own personal understanding of his family. However he never rejected others and always stayed
Wednesday Adams (5w4 sp/so)- While she can be looked at as detached from others. In the second movie we see a Wednesday who clearly has her heart in the right place. She is caring and always looking for the vest for her family.
Ellie Chu (5w6 sp/so)- At the beginning of the film we see her reduce her self as much as possible trying to go by unnoticed. but as the movie goes on we see her become more open about her feelings and stop being afraid of creating connections with others.
Unhealthy Self-preservation 5
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Donnie Darko (5w4 sp/so)-In the movie we see him spiral completely down and detach himself from others.
Walter White (5w6 sp/so)- Wanting to feel alive in the little time he has he decides to over indulge and let him self go. He disintegrates towards 8 a bit each season. In the end eventually loosing everyone.
Haymitch Avarnethay (5w6 sp/so)- Due to the effects the games had on him we see him make a slow move to 8. While he is Katniss mentor we see him improve himself and become more centered in reality.
Healthy Sexual 5
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Simon Petrigrof (5w6 sx/sp)- In the beginning of F&C we meet back with him completely sad and focused on getting Betty back. He has comply withdrawn from others and grew to believe he didn't have ay value outside of getting with Betty. In the end of the show we see him make peace with Betty and moving on.
James (EOFW) (5w4 sx/sp)- He spent allot of time detached from others and due to this he believed he has APD. However when Alissa finds him they become close and form a bond that couldn't be broken. While their Journey has consequences they were able to come together to figure out in the end.
Alan Wake (5w4 sx/so)- While allot of his actions are morally dubious, his desire was always to share the stories he had to tell. And his love for Alice kept him sane in the dark place.
Unhealthy Sexual 5
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Hannibal Lecter (5w4 sx/so)- His intense desire to have a relationship with Will Graham sends him spiraling down to the point of obsession.
Gendo Ikari (5w4 sx/so)- He completely withdraws from the world once he loses Yui and neglects Shinji in the process. He eventually tries to make the third impact happen in order to get over the core fear of enneagram 5.
Mother Miranda (5w6 sx/so)- She intended to substitute someone else's baby for her own...Yeah pretty self explanatory. Her desire to have that special bond with Eva takes her to dark places. Eventually neglecting her "children" this eventually causing all of them desiring her personal admiration and validation (dying for it too).
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IDK how to explain this in a coherent way yet but 8s and 3s, disintegrating into Withdrawn types, are not always going to confront you when stressed.
I've gained this information from observing even the most memeworthy and murderous of 8s who you could not miss as 8s. They will have their moments of being publicly extra, but they will often not do anything about a situation that pisses them off because they expect other people not to understand them and all their esoteric perspectives. they will find outlets for their rage which do not address the problem. Sometimes this outlet is the people actually making them angry; often it isn’t, because they want to keep their job or use these people later in a revenge scheme or whatever. What I'm describing is all 8 -> 5, disintegration to 5 but with total awareness of the 8 anger that actual 5s don't have.
the difference between 8s and 9s is not how willing to confront you they are, it is how aware of their anger and what is making them angry they are. 9s going to 6 struggle to be aware of what is making them angry because they are moving to an indecisive 6. 8s know exactly when and why they are angry, they are moving to the decisive individualist 5.
8-9 liners (8w9 and 9w8) have a confusing time with deciding where the line between knowing you're angry (8w9) and not knowing you're angry (9w8) truly is. because it is all a gradient rather than a 0 or 1, yes or no. there would be no wings in enneagram if anything was black and white.
8s that have had any experience and learned from it have learned to hide (all of this is 8 -> 5 stuff). the challenge for 8s is actually learning to hide less and put themselves on the line with all their controversial shit, in a way that is not imposing but truly vulnerable to the needs of others (8 -> 2). 8's controversial nature comes from the mentally isolated little 5 within us which thinks whatever thoughts it wants unhinged and does not mentally show regard for authority at all.
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galoregalacticals · 6 months
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Seven: What language do they speak at the center of the earth?
Seven: Core-ean
Five: The center of the earth is arond 5430 degrees Celsius! Nobody is going to live there so they don’t need a language!
Seven: Core-ean.
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playsthetics · 2 years
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Enneagram Tritype Moodboards: (10/27)
258 (The Strategist)
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phlve · 1 year
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Subtype Trait Structures: sx5
Fragile Body and Nonconformist Spirit
Usually, this subtype has experienced a childhood of suffering due to the affective impact of the parents, but also due to physical fragility. Despite this, there is an intense desire for potency. The sexual E5 does not accept its fragile condition.
Need of Harmony and Flee to Nature
A person of this subtype needs a harmonious environment. Nature becomes this environment; it is an idealized place of silence and tranquility, where the sexual E5 can organize his inner chaos.
Arid and Hypersensitive
The sexual E5 appears arid and distant, and yet is very sensitive. There is a very low threshold for pain, so emotions and thoughts are separated, and situations are avoided which might bring to conscious awareness extreme pain. Aridity serves to dampen hypersensitivity.
Easily Destabilized
People make this subtype lose contact with his desires. External demands exhaust the sexual E5 and thus cause this subtype to retreat once more into isolation. The sexual E5 was so invaded in his childhood that the person still lives with the fear of not being able to defend him, thus the person remains in the background.
Nostalgic
The sexual E5 idealizes the past, being unable to let themselves indulge in the present.
Helpless
Existential helplessness has been present since childhood. It almost feels like having no skin, not being grounded in the world.
Separation From The World
Separating social and professional dimensions can lead to a simple, routine life. The sexual E5 can restrict himself to a systematic and rigid way of living, and compensate this with excessive fantasy. The sexual E5 is pressured by an indomitable spirit, but has difficulty finding his place in the world.
Worthless
A prominent characteristic of E5 is not feeling worthy, due to a lack of vitality when facing challenges. With the sexual instinct, it coexists with excessive and grandiose fantasy. Projects thus become unreal and unfinished. Separating the mind from the body makes it difficult to take action.
Indiscipline
Indiscipline is the result of forgetfulness, devitalization, and difficulties taking action. It is hard to move on, due to a pessimistic attitude towards change. Internal perfectionism makes the sexual E5 believe he is never ready.
Vengeful by Not Doing What is Expected
The demands of an internalized critical parent makes this subtype rebellious, which results in guilt when not doing what is expected.
Guilty Feelings
Guilt arises, as the sexual E5 is aware of their detachment as a form of revenge. A vicious cycle is created: guilt leads to not having energy, and not having energy leads to guilt. Guilt maintains feelings of victimization. A childhood full of demands and messages of worthlessness is common. The parents, making the sexual E5 feel guilty, contribute to a sense of worthlessness, of not being deserving of something positive in life.
Selfishness and Egocentricity
When idealizing his partner, the sexual E5 does not see her as a person with her own emotions or needs. This subtype needs a partner who will have extreme loyalty. The other must conform to this person.
Arrogant
As a way of denying the defensiveness of isolation, the sexual E5 will convince himself of his special world, of being above “ordinary” beings. There exists an image of superiority. This subtype tends to present his ideas as unquestionable.
Seductive
The sexual E5 seduces not with feathers, but by approaching intimately. His search for the ideal partner can lead to compulsive seduction of different people at the same time.
Romantic
The sexual E5 is the most emotional subtype of the E5. Romanticism allows them to be carried away by their emotions. Romanticism can emerge not only in the couple's relationship, but also with music, art, or nature.
Source: PDB Wiki
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