#u might disagree

[endof-beginning]

STONATHAN WEEK: DAY 5 | Steve & Jonathan + another character

soldier, poet, king

#this is probably my favorite thing i made for stonathan week #u might disagree with who's who . but I Am Right #argue w the wall #steve harrington #jonathan byers #nancy wheeler #stoncy #stonathan #jancy #stancy #← i guess ??? #st #stranger things #stonathanweek2023 #*video #*mine

[yelow-heart]

I've been seeing a growth on hatred towards Tubblings (Tubbo's community) in here. Aswell as some explicit hate towards Philza.

It's not a huge issue yet, but before it is: know that we don't tolerate plain hate in here and u will be reported. Tumblr HAS a report system that works.

You ARE responsible for the things you say online.

Doesn't matter if you're famous, or a public figure, or just a jane-doe. You're not just another number or comment and u will be held accountable.

Be gone trolls

#qsmp #tubbo #honestly I don't know where it's coming from or why #and I don't want to know either #qsmpblr is a safe space or God so help me #And I'm not talking about negative opinion toward a behavior or criticism #people have the right to disagree #it's healthy even #but hate speech? nah uh #not here #i also saw some weird hate to phil and the crows and immediately reported #and I'll say if the internet is causing such strong emotions and stress on ya it might be wise to take a break from it before u become sick #but don't make it other peoples problem #remember that there is a lot of kids and minors in this community #it's not cool to expose them to such behavior #you know what? I'll tag every streamer/community I can think of that has had hate thrown at them recently around twitter and here #badboyhalo #qsmp dapper #cellbit #oibagi #pactw #mikethelink #brazilians #quackity #philza #qsmp admins #qsmp empanada #qsmp sunny #qsmp leonarda #qsmp richarlyson

[potatobugz]

do you think the mess in oshiros hotel is meant to signify that hes been letting his problems pile up until its become too overwhelming to handle.

im thinking about the fact that he's definitely the one who's been making the mess but he doesn't even realize it. he ignores the clutter until it becomes too hard to ignore you know? like when it starts actively blocking the way to the presidential suite. he insists that he and his staff will handle it and that madeline shouldn't clean up his own mess, but he still doesn't do anything about it. does he know that the staff is gone? that it's just him there?

mr oshiro is so hell bent on impressing madeline so that she'll stay in his hotel. he's so in denial of everything. he doesn't even realize he's dead, he still thinks his hotel never got shut down. I think his insistence on her staying is bc he really wants to believe that the hotel is open, and a costumer would affirm that belief. it could also maybe be a mixture of loneliness too. (also, him treating her as a costumer even after she says no is absolutely him being in denial. that man is very unhealthily attached to this hotel,)

and even though it was nice of madeline to clean it up, there's still parts of the hotel she can't fix. the plumbing. the windows. the, hole in the ceiling (oops.) she's not qualified to help him, and that's why I think the chapter ends on a bit of a sour note. madeline is of course not a bad person for wanting to help, the point is that she can't. it is unfortunate but true

anyways mr oshiro is a very good character i like him a regular amount. im normal about that old man

#celeste #celeste game #mr oshiro #oshiro celeste #character analysis #i guess ? #this is my first time making any post like this but i meeded to make it i need 2 talk about hom and his fuckin hotel !!!!!!! #one other thought i have is... i saw a few ppl say that mr oshiro manipulated madeline into cleaning or that he feigned incompetence ? #and i disagree with that. though this might just be me looking at jt w rose tinted glasses bc i do like him a lot #but first of all i dont think he couldve easily cleaned that whole mess himself. i know hes a ghost but like #there was stuff everywhere in the whole hotel. #not to mention he felt guilty when madeline did clean all that stuff up. of course it was also a little bit #because he didnt want to lose her as a customer #but he also obviously felt like that was his responsibility as the owner of the hotel and he felt fuckin bad about it #i could be wrong bc i dont remember everyting he said in that chapter but i dont think he ever asked her to clean either ? #and like yeah i think he can come off a little mean at times tbh #hes obviously going through some stuff. guysm cmon. he is not a bad person. none of these characters are. whevhhwveh #idk. i did my best here. *explodes* #thank you for listening to my insane rambles about peeing in a hot topic i hope u all have a goooood night #rambles #i honestly hope he gets a happy ending somewhat

[chemicalarospec]

my favourite part of Death Note is that it's an excellent critique of how ridiculous and horrible police/policing ideology/punitive justice is when taken to its natural conclusion/extreme, but the old man writing it absolutely did not have that in mind -- as evidenced by the fact that he had the Good Normal Police take down This Unhinged Freak Who Thinks We Should Kill Criminals (tho tbf I do think it's a pointed critique of the death penalty - "it's still murder even if they're death row criminals" like it's not spelled out but it's pretty obvious the death penalty is murder too then. But the author kinda gives up on acknowledging the normal "justice" system isn't aren't 100% prefect by the end). like I'm not 100% certain but I do think Light's dad was just made a policeman for plot convenience & possibly to explain why criminals take up so much space in Light's head, not because the Kira's ideology could only be developed by the child of a cop. (L would have used that as evidence it was the case.) Also the author said Mr. Cop Father is good.

#i have this idea that children natrually take more extreme positions than their parents b/c parenst will hide their misgivings when they #think the position they nominally believe in is the right one. esp if it relates to their job. #death note #light yagami #Soichiro Yagami #yagami light #death note analysis #yes this is in contrast to the post about 'god' i just reblogged. wanted to make it clear i see light and his father #as having essentially the same ideology. i mean his dad disagrees with kira but like. light literally got it all from him. #light who wants to make his father proud and deicdes his dad doesn't understand his own ideology when he rejects kira... #okay but legit i think the reason why kira upset those international cops is because THEY couldn't be hte ones to kill the criminals? like #it was only because Kira was an outside force not part of the institutions? that's kidna the vibe i got at the beginning of the manga #i said this #i think i might hae spelling critique the british way? not sure how else to spell it tho. i always put the 'u' in 'favourite' btw #chem's death note arc #this has been in my head for like months now but only got the motivation to type it out bc of that last post lol

[sideblogformentalhealtshit]

Am I the only one who despises "pervasive drive for autonomy" as an alternative to "pathological demand avoidance"?

PDA takes away so much of my ability to decide for myself what to do; it robs me of my autonomy. I struggle with doing things I enjoy because I make them into demands in my head, I can't watch weekly-airing shows because I tell myself that I have to, that I love this show, that I need to watch the next episode, and then no longer being able to. Because my brain has decided that it just Must go into fight or flight because... I am trying to decide what to do.

It just feels... gross, I guess, to dress it up as "i just have a strong sense of autonomy, i just don't like being told what to do ^_^" when it is genuinely disabling to me, not just in when other people try to influence me, but also when I want to do something and PDA prevents me.

#personal #pda #pathological demand avoidance #pervasive drive for autonomy #u are free to disagree!! in fact if u do i'd be happy to hear ur perspective (as long as u remain civil pls) #autism #autism pda #actually autistic #idk if i rly got my point across #it being that PDA actively robs me of my ability to truly decide what to do. it actively takes away my autonomy. #for me seeing 'pervasive drive for autonomy' immediately turns my mood sour. i don't think i'll ever like the term #like. pda IS what restricts my autonomy and freedom to choose what i will do. why are we dressing it up as a reasonable thing to experience #i am willing to acknowledge i might be wrong but i think my feelings on this are very reasonable

[applesandbannas747]

actually i think I am going to be a dick about this even though it's possible I'm being unreasonable. I think it's shitty to post art from behind Jo's paywall unless it's art you commissioned. Otherwise, you are denying her income from posting and/or posting something someone else bought, which sucks a little

#jackshit #fence comic #it just feels so personal when we are such a small fandom and she is such a small artist--l think Jo deserves better #and i get that not everyone can afford to pay for her patreon/kofi but that's why only extra stuff is on there #so you dont miss anyhitn big by not paying #but by making and posting the extra content she can make some more money from people who do have the disposable income #capitalism sucks but steal from walmarts not small businesses yknow #and yeah im also butthurt but her art means a stupid amount to me and when someone else gets to post what i requested before i do #it upsets me a stupid amount #yell at me if you disagree i might delete/change my mind I don’t know but it b u g s me so much and has for years

[jamesvowles]

you better have a good explanation b/c i feel so insulted rn… mclaren sun???????? haas rising???????????? do you hate me :(((

I DO! HEAR ME OUT DONT KILL ME YET

okay so mclaren sun right? so basically our sun sign is our drive, motivations, etc. SO FOR ME i chose mclaren because of the entire history of that team and its successes and downfalls. it's got such a rich history with lewis, jense, fernando, bruce etc. etc. something about being guided despite all the adversities that come ur way (i know u said some of the follower special graphics felt difficult to finish and yet some of the work that came out of it was absolutely next level...or thats how i felt)

haas rising....rising signs are what we put out to the world....first of all hate to be really on the nose but american. but also, when i think about you and what i know abt u as a person you do kinda have a no nonsense aura about you. thinking about haas having kevin hold everyone up so nico can race (ayao kinda also talks about how he had the privilege of trying new things at haas when he first joined and they were rewarded w points thru grosjean). also i love your passion and involvement with things showing (like making the princess george discord, i know u r involved in extracurriculars at school, and also u run a few other edit/f1 blogs) is kinda like haas with that much dedication. going back to ayao he talks about how much they pushed for the team at the beginning to get points or else a lot of people would leave. i think a lot of midfield teams have this dedication/closeness ofc, but you just vibed like haas to me.

#asks #giovanni #yes i thought about this......i think about everything......... #it was either haas sun or rising but like all astrology...u might disagree still sfDkSFDKDFKK #synthysyaoifolder

[rhinestonebabe]

If you are on another social media site, and you see someone you know irl/knew irl posting in support of Israel or posting Israeli propaganda, a powerful thing you CAN do is respectfully and kindly dm them and offer an alternative opinion/facts that contradict their information(ESPECIALLY if you are a US American, and double if you're white). Is it painful to be civil with someone who seems to want other people dead, tortured, starved? YES!

But if they are in an echo chamber of misinfo and nobody ever challenges them, they probably won't challenge themselves. You won't change everyone's mind and certainly it won't be immediate. But if more people used their privilege(being kind and civil, being a peer as opposed to a stranger) then more people will consider that they may not have all the info!! It feels futile but starting a conversation with someone can give them a stepping stone to challenging their own beliefs that's not just seeing an Instagram story they disagree with.

#palestine #free palestine #free gaza #if anyone doesnt understand how to do this feel free to ask?? #the goal is to not “attack” them or make them go on the defensive #palestinians and people more conmected to the suffering dont owe anyone civility #as much as you might disagree #starting an argument probably wont change someones mind #caveat. this post very much made by a white person in the usa who is removed from the genocide #palestinians and people more connected to the genocide dont owe anyone civility #but if u(like me) are in a place of distance a privilege you have the opportunity to change some minds #use it

[snekdood]

ive been disillusioned with a lot of the left for a while, it's nice to at least see that other ppl see it now, though the reason why kinda fucking sucks.

#i used to think i could trust ppl bc of pride flags in their profile or them being trans or whatever #and then i put allll of my trust in that community not realizing theres a Multitudes of types of ppl in it #aside from even the fact some trans ppl can be nazis- some trans people- as much as it might make us look bad to admit- #are also predators and abusers and want to lie to you and use you for money and sexually abuse you and dump you like trash #and then accuse you of doing everything they did @u@;; ask me how i know! #so on the one hand im happy ppl see it now- it's not that leftists or queer ppl or feminists are better ppl- ppl more worthy to trust- #they're just as diverse and as good and as shitty as any other demographic of people. #you're gonna find shitty people everywhere. obviously you're more likely to find predators on the right but that doesnt mean theres not #plenty on the left too. #at a certain point calling yourself 'on the left' doesnt mean much aside from idk. thinking ppl need basic human rights? #and even then its apparent that some leftists dont think that. so who can say. maybe you wont misgender me? but nah- you will #if i disagree w you or if we get in a fight- i've seen plenty of leftists do this. #i just think the term is useless now. #i think the left is about to fracture into different groups at this point #anyways be weary traveler of ever putting all of ye trust into any group of people. #its possible to like ppl and enjoy being around them and still not fully trust them. and if something tells you to gtfo? you should #also putting all your trust in a group of ppl is a one way ticket into possibly joining a cult on accident #or at the very least a culty friendgroup

[dykeandballs]

good morning

#yesterday i spent the evening with a friend which is always nice #i rarely go out especially with company :3 #the mean girls movie is fun and cute #a lot of those girls had chemistry and need to discover lesbianism #ive been reading htn and struggling w monster baru so i might put that on hold for a bit sorry to my fans #i dont know why book 2 is such a slog rn but i wont abandon it #i was wearing a hoodie for palestine yesterday and a woman asked me where i got it which warmed me #she was with her family and still caught me on her way out #also happy black history month if any of u disagree wt my opinions this month yr racist #anyway im gonna play some games and read to cope with it being sunday #oh i also watched anatomy of a fall the other day its very good!!!

[graymatteradvocate]

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#maybe im a lil dumb but i dont get the whole lilith debate #i was born a jew #u tellin me the circumstances of my birth grant me the privilege of naming myself lilith? #and ive thought about it #i might #but it gets me thinkin yk? #what if i never engaged with judaism? #i do and i might want to do it more #but what if i were an agnostic jew? #what if i wanted to name myself lilith but i had bad experiences with religion? #what if i even resented my jewish upbringing? #what is the qualifier here? #what makes this suddenly ok? #how devout would you say id have to be in order to make naming myself lilith socially acceptable? #should i be practicing kabbalah? #would i be villified for questioning this? #maybe i disagree and believe lilith is perfectly acceptable a name for a gentile trans woman? #wouldnt it be antithetical to the exploration aspects of judaism to deny a differing opinion? #but i can certainly see myself being harassed for that opinion #probably accused of lying about being a jew #who knows?

[mikeylivesattheend]

tw; right wing dudes saying right wing stuff in links,rant

I really want to know. Does anyone else hate the completionist drama, not bc of what the completionist did/did not do, but bc of the guys who started making videos abt it

Karl jobst had some drama like 2 years ago u can still see on reddit regarding him saying some racist shit and hanging around in nazi circles.

(Links are to karl accusations with receipts)

Someordinarygamer, at a glance, has not done anything that bad. But he's a centrist who operates a bit like moistcritcal, Aka responding to drama of the week. Also, If u don't know, american centrism is basically diet right wing, with some being waywayway more nazisish (I don't think he's as bad as jobst, but I don't trust people who say the left and the right are two sides of the same coin, links to reddit proof below). He was the kind of person to talk abt the hogwarts legacy backlash in a '""""balanced"""" way🙄

(SomeOrdinaryGamer being a centrist proof)

(Reddit is not the end of research obviously. Karls vibes are bad but I only felt it after a few vids. Someordinarygamer is easier to see red flags. So watch their vids if u don't trust reddit, I wouldnt blame u lmao)

Idk. Like i understand fucking holding charity money for 10 years is immoral, the company was absolutely mismanaged, and the completionist had no right claiming they were donating to various charities actively. BUT how am i supposed to trust those guys' analysis and the million other inflammatory drama channels covering it???

Has a legit lefty person talked about this in in depth, with their own research, since the completionists apology???

I know bad people can have correct takes, but I just cannot bring myself to trust their analysis. As silly as it seems, even I, when I watched half of one of their videos, noticed the e-signature issue. How much research are these guys actually doing, and are their conclusions truly reflective of all the information available?

Not trying to start shit, its just been on my mind, i guess.

EDIT: Literally like 5 hours I posted this Moon Channel said he would be covering this and I trust him a hell of a lot more. He's made major mistakes on one video that I know of, but he's owned up to them w/ links on correct resources, and hes not a fucking centrist wow. Hes also a lawyer so hes at least slightly more qualified to discuss this topic. I will update if the video seems solid

#the completionist #karl jobst #someordinarygamer #might edit this later #just wanted to rant #i really rec reading reddit for karl stuff btw #i just dont get how the wider internet trusts ANYTHING THEY SAY #its like trusting your cousin joe to research taxes #fucking khc ihvohihvjo #im probably wrong in my take ig #i do hold grudges #if u disagree plz link me to resources #ive primarily looked on yt and tt and cant parse any good from bad #an i dont use twitter so #also thats short form #i want long form #moon channel #my post

[iknowwhereyousleepatnight]

okay i was curious so i selected all the questions that were obviously about sadism and masochism and highlighted all the 10s and 1s (1 = strongly disagree, 10 = strongly agree) to see which group was more likely to have stronger masochistic/sadistic tendencies

data and a lot of words below the cut

KEY: yellow highlight for strongly disagree, red for strongly agree. orange q is masochism, blue is sadism. each row is one person, each column is one question

NOTE: i'm only showing the questions with high face-value bc the other ones serve another purpose that isn't needed here, and i also left out any reverse-scored questions (like q14) both bc i haven't reversed them yet and bc i think some could be working on a subscale so i might have to remove them from my data completely

NOTE AGAIN: questions 8 and 10 are working on a sort of subscale so oops for me but also y'all at least could answer above 4 yay. except for the one person who really likes being humiliated and put a 9 for that and for the 'i am a masochist' question. very glad that someone in the psych group knows a good time lmao

here's the questions if ur interested: 5. i enjoy pain 6. i enjoy seeing others in pain 7. i enjoy humiliating others 8. i enjoy being humiliated 9. i am mean to others for my own pleasure 10. i get pleasure from others being mean to me 11. i like to assert control over others 12. i like for someone to be in control over me 13. i like to be intimidating 14. --- ignore this one --- 15. i am a sadist 16. i am a masochist

ANOTHER NOTE (not the novel): these questions were made to be really simple (to get more accurate data/avoid confusion), but they aren't foolproof and some are only here to test a personal hypothesis so keep that in mind when it comes to data trends

this is from the psych students only:

this is from everyone who voted online:

do you see the difference here? they psych students strongly disagreed with everything i said :( and they don't strongly agree with anything :(

but y'all were much more fun with your numbers so thanks for that, i appreciate it. i think the online group is more representative of the population, obviously it's not fully, but definitely more than the psych group who seems to be a bunch of ppl who all have very similar opinions

anyway i just thought that was fun if i find anything else interesting i might show y'all

#i should make a tag for this #hmmmm #psych project #? #that works for now ig #idk if i'll use it a lot but i do love to talk about interesting things and i always make my projects interesting so i might #also do u know how fun it is to be on excel and just go tab 1 tab 1 tab 1 tab 1 like 15 times in a row i love that shit #thanks psych group for disagreeing w me so much i had fun inputting that

[comradekatara]

responding to @levitatingbiscuits reply here because this post is already way too fucking long and I am not subjecting your dashboards to all that, but I do think this conversation is interesting enough to continue it (albeit under the cut):

I agree that roach work’s comment was annoying, and if you were responding to that, I get why you said what you said. this person regularly adds replies to my posts that are completely unrelated to the original point I was making, effectively derailing my argument and getting a bunch of reblogs from their followers who don’t have the common sense to ignore their pointless (and in this case, editorializing) additions. but everyone reblogging my post with your addition attacked me in the notes, as if I had said/implied all that you were arguing against, when I quite literally did not. and they said some quite nasty things, as if I couldn’t see their comments! I don’t go seeking out ppl saying shit about me ever, but if you do it in my house, we’re gonna have a problem.

as for your points...

I 100% agree that defending katara against people who unfairly vilified her, especially during the [vomits] atla renaissance (netflix you will rue the day...) is justified! I quite literally said aloud just last night, “anyone who hates katara can die,” and I fully fucking meant it. I don’t know why you seem to think we don’t agree here. maybe because I don’t think the solution to combatting idiotic, racist & misogynistic fans is by extolling katara to the point where you can’t appreciate her for her flaws. her flaws make her who she is as much as her virtues, and I would never negate the depth of her character just because I love her. I don’t “stan” katara, I appreciate her as a character who inspired me as a child for her strength and growth and brilliance, who is stunningly well-written and compelling.

meanwhile, the older I get, the more I’ve come to appreciate sokka. yes, I too was obsessed with katara the moment she came onscreen, especially when she showed the full depth of her anger over sokka’s misogynistic comment. I’d literally never even seen misogyny addressed before, let alone been given permission to be angry with it. katara knows her worth, and that makes her so fucking important!!! and yes, I know what it’s like to raise misogynistic brothers; it’s a thankless job!

katara was immediately inspiring to me, but appreciating sokka and the full depth of his character has been something earned with time. i think it's incredibly easy to misread him, dismiss his underlying motivations, and just generally discard him for the sake of the more exciting and shiny characters (in my case katara, azula, toph, iroh. truly appreciating aang has also been something i needed to grow older to do, but i think the more my maternal instincts develop, the more i want to pinch his baby cheeks and wrap him up in a big hug and kiss his forehead and put him in my pocket... i digress). i have come to forgive sokka for his sexism, and even excuse it. does that mean i think katara isn't in the right to challenge patriarchal ideas? of course she fucking is! just because sokka was deeply misguided in his gender essentialist views for logical reasons (before meeting suki, that is) it's not like katara should excuse him for it. katara has every right to get mad, every time she gets mad, and i love that her anger is treated as a virtue, because it is! her anger is righteous and sympathetic and revolutionary. she is so fucking important.

by "delicate touch" i didn't mean "sokka isn't acting like an airport dad" because i would never deny his grumpiness. sokka can be a massive cunt most of the time, and i love that about him. he is a miserable, neurotic, curmudgeonly little freak, and frankly, that rules. i think we need more teenage jewish grandpa representation always.

^ literally sokka

i think by delicate touch (again, i wrote this post like 3 years ago, i don't even remember writing it) i just meant that as much as he does kvetch, he also knows how to engage them in a way that gets them to do what he wants. when he makes them go to the library, he frames it in their terms, as if he's taking a vacation (frankly, taking a vacation to a library is something i've actually done, and it was awesome, but we all know how their library excursion turned out, so, yknow). or just how the only time he ever actually even reveals like a fraction of his insecurities is in "sokka's master," because as much as he complains, he never actually wants to burden them with his internal problems (which is not why aang bottles up his shit, and i think we all know that). as much as he complains, he also tries as hard as possible to preserve their innocence whenever he can, especially when it comes to aang. he could've been way less indulgent of aang's antics, but he isn't, because he knows how important it is for aang to be a kid despite the enormous loss he's suffered. anyway, since i know how hard it is to wrangle twelve year olds and try to convince them to do something when they'd rather do something else, sokka is fucking jesus on the cross for that, and you can't change my mind.

and by "de facto chief" i don't mean that sokka was the one taking care of the whole tribe. obviously kanna and the other adults were the ones in charge of making sure the community functioned smoothly, because again, sokka was like thirteen, and thirteen years olds are fucking useless. what i meant was that sokka took what hakoda said to heart, and thus considered himself the first and last line of defense should the fire nation ever return. it's not remotely a reach to think sokka was prepared to die for katara, because a) his mother literally did and b) his father all but told him to? maybe he was just trying to placate his kid, because i really doubt hakoda would actually be in favor of letting his son get himself killed, but it's clear that sokka took that to heart in the way in which he prioritizes katara over everything else. also, it's clear that hakoda does respect sokka a lot. he calls him a "great warrior" and a "genius," and it's not in vain, sokka is those things! hakoda sees his son better than he sees himself.

and i would never claim that katara talks about her issues for attention or sympathy from others. that's absurd. anyone who does so is plain wrong. but empathizing with others isn't emotional labor, it's healing for her, it's cathartic. when she talks to haru, jet, zuko, hama, aang, etc. about her trauma, she's doing so from a place of healthy emotion and vulnerability wherein she is exchanging empathy between them, receiving comfort and comforting in return. sokka doesn't know how to do that, which is a shortcoming to be sure, but the fact that katara is so open about her trauma does signify that she never felt a need to bottle it up the way sokka clearly does. (i would argue sokka's arc in the entire "swamp" episode is about the spirits all but taunting him for being so repressed about his trauma, but that's for another post.)

sokka wanted a bag to carry supplies in, not because it was fashionable. he enjoys that the bag matches the belt he got from the earth rumble tournament (he had no intention of purchasing such a belt), but katara is the one who shows an interest in fashion. and to be clear, i'm not saying that sokka would immediately know how and what to forage in unfamiliar terrain; foraging is fucking hard, and that's when you already have any kind of guide. katara is definitely the one buying the groceries, i won't argue that. whenever sokka is in the vicinity of a grocer while wearing blue, they tend to dismiss him with outright hostility, while being much more sympathetic to katara. it's a running joke that throughout the earth kingdom adults are far kinder to katara than to sokka. but this isn't actually an issue when they're hiding out in the fire nation and both disguised in red, curious! i wonder why adults fed imperialist rhetoric their whole life might internalize the idea that a young water tribe girl is harmless whereas a water tribe boy is a threat to be treated with hostility... but yknow, it could also just be vibes. katara does generally have a more pleasant attitude. it could just be that. who can say!

as for "jet," as i've already stated, i don't think the gaang has a leader. but katara does grow to trust sokka's instincts more and more over the course of the show. and sokka only tells katara not to trust jet once he has evidence! he tells her that he beat up a harmless old man, and katara still takes jet's side, even though he's obviously lying. as for aang, i really don't think sokka's instincts not to trust a person who for all intents and purposes should not currently exist and suddenly waltzes into their life while ignoring their current reality are that contrived. katara thinks she's in a story that she is the narrator and hero of (which, metatextually speaking, is true), but sokka thinks he's in a war and is thus suspicious of magical little manic pixie dream boys. and not for nothing, aang does set off the fire nation flare that alerts zuko to the location of their village, so sokka's instincts were actually correct here, even if aang is of course an angel.

and katara calms aang down from the avatar state, what, twice? and once she's literally just talking to him from behind a rock. her act in "the desert" is 100% a testament to her bravery and the unique bond she shares with aang, i'm not denying that whatsoever. sokka simultaneously shields toph in this moment, which granted is far less dangerous than what katara does with aang, but is also a subtle moment that demonstrates the nature of his bond with her (i don't really have a point here, i just love aang & katara and sokka & toph's relationships). i don't remember katara comforting aang for burning her, i just remember her reasonably telling him that he can't let his guilt get in the way of learning firebending, and showing him that she's healed to calm him down. and the comics are stupid, so i'm not even gonna address this point. anyway. sokka does come to trust her to fight her own battles as the show goes on and she gets demonstrably stronger, but he still worries about her whenever she's in trouble, and would do anything to protect her. he's still her big brother.

katara's idealism is inspiring & beautiful & heroic. but yes, it is also naive. that's not even a bad thing! katara fighting to preserve her childhood wonder and innocence in the face of incalculable loss is deeply moving to me. aang and katara show sokka and toph how to become more awe-inspired and vulnerable over the course of the show. sokka never would've suggested a beach party in "sozin's comet" if not for aang and katara's influence. that's growth. but that doesn't mean that katara was right to trust zuko in the crystal catacombs, or that she was right to trust jet, or aunt wu, or hama. i understand why she trusts these people (especially jet and especially hama), and it's hardly a bad thing to see the potential good in everyone, but zuko's betrayal hits her so hard because she had mistakenly put so much faith in him right before he turned around and helped azula kill aang. of course she sees potential in both aang and zuko, though. she's the heart of the show, and they're both mirrors to her character in significant ways. sokka is not a part of this central thematic triad, and he doesn't care that he's in a story, he just wants to make sure that his friends and family don't get murdered. they have different narrative priorities, but katara's are admittedly much prettier.

also, of course sokka wouldn't say he sees himself as a sacrificial lamb. even if he realized this about himself (which i also don't think he does), he wouldn't say it. saying it would negate the entire point. but i do think it's justified by the text. katara clearly carries the guilt of knowing kya died for her, and it's what inspires her to try and be her own mother for herself and her family, and to be the best waterbender in the world. sokka doesn't have that guilt. while katara feels it her duty to remember, to carry on her mother's legacy so that her sacrifice was not in vain, sokka feels it his duty to repress, to tamp down any shred of humanity that is not relevant to the war and to making sure his sister isn't killed for who she is. i don't think it's a reach for him to want to emulate his parents in this regard, since he clearly idealizes them and their bravery in defending their home, their culture, and their family.

no, i don't think sokka acts like a mom or a dad or even a wacky uncle (a grandpa, maybe). my point was to illustrate how neither of them are parents. they may try to emulate their parents in many regards, but they are still both very much kids, who happen have both seen far too much for their years. and katara mourns kya differently (more, as she claims, which i believe to be true) because her death was deeply personal to katara, in a way that it just wasn't for sokka. like i said, sokka represses his trauma. he claims that he thinks about yue all the time, and yet he barely ever talks about her. a defining moment in his life, which is hakoda leaving him behind, is only revealed to us in a flashback that occurs while he's sitting quietly by the fire watching over katara and aang as they sleep. katara's way of mourning kya was to try to become her in her guilt over her sacrifice. do you really think sokka doesn't understand the implications of this?

sure, he dismisses the domestic labor she does, which sucks of him for sure, though i'd argue it's just as much his cerebral stem bro attitude that prioritizes ideas and theory over those little manual tasks as it is straight up sexism. but yeah, it sucks. i know very few men who appreciate the work that goes into those "feminine chores," and it's absolutely because what is categorized as feminine is devalued by society. but yes, i think if the binary established is between "mom" and "servant", sokka sees katara as someone who is simply better at feminine labor, and that's not great of him, but katara does enjoy being feminine, so i understand why he'd make that assumption, seeing as the only thing she doesn't seem to enjoy is doing his laundry for him, which, yknow, checks out. do your own laundry, sokka.

again, katara has a more personal connection to the events surrounding kya's death. it's why her saying "you didn't love her the way i did" is both deeply hurtful, and something she clearly believes to be true. what she really means is, "you didn't grieve her the way i did," and it's because sokka doesn't feel like his very existence was responsible for her death. "the southern raiders" is a deeply personal episode for katara, and zuko is the one who understands her trauma, more intimately than sokka can, because kya did not sacrifice herself for him, but ursa did with zuko.

and yes, katara's seemingly throwaway line about how she's lost her childhood innocence hits really hard. it's why she's so immediately drawn to aang. because she wants to have fun again, but no one is there to encourage her, certainly not her depressed as fuck brother who only cares about being a better warrior. aang and katara inspire each other to preserve their innocence and they get to be kids together, which is what makes their friendship such a beautiful thing.

katara has a lot of skills and roles sokka doesn't. he can't midwife, he can't heal (obviously), he can't shop for groceries in the earth kingdom without being abused by vendors. he could probably cook and sew if he set his mind to it (we never actually see katara clean, but we do see sokka clean appa) but katara seems pretty confident in those areas, so why step on her toes. but sokka also has a lot of skills and roles katara does not. he reads maps, makes schedules, strategizes in battles, helps invent new technology, is able to fight without bending, is able to sense red flags that katara refuses to see, etc etc. they balance each other out, both emotionally and practically. considering that they basically raised each other, and didn't have parents to do things for them, it makes sense that they each have their own skillset, and function as a codependent team.

"the desert" puts her in a new situation to show that she's the group's heart. not just the group's heart, but the show's heart. she is the narrative center. that's what i mean by "the desert" being a trial for katara. it's not that no one else will step up, it's that they can't. aang is in the first stages of experiencing an immense grief, toph is feeling guilty and scared and lost, and sokka's attempt to quench their thirst put him out of commission for the rest of the day (though granted, he was trying to be helpful). katara is always there. she will never give up on people who need her. that's a core tenet of her character, and it is what makes her not only so kind and giving, but also a revolutionary leader. it's why i think she should go on to be chief, because while sokka wants to be like hakoda, he's not actually a warrior at heart, but katara is an inspiration to many, and her connection with people and the way she sees the best in them is what makes her the pride and joy of her people, just as much as her waterbending skill.

toph and katara are both in the wrong in the chase. katara comes from a communal society where everyone pitches in, so she sees toph as a spoiled brat for not helping her. toph came from a family that acted as if she was useless and helpless, so she thinks by letting every member of the group carry their own weight, she is affording them the basic respect her parents did not afford to her. it's a classic miscommunication, which escalates because katara and toph are both very loud, assertive middle schoolers who don't enjoy compromising their beliefs. they eventually do, which we see illustrated in the spa episode. but katara clearly wants to go to the spa and enjoys every second of it, she's just taking toph with her because she thinks toph needs a shower. for the most part, they both have a good time, katara because she enjoys feminine activities and relaxing, toph because she likes mud and spending time with her friends, and both of them because they got to do violence to some mean girls.

aang also gets mad at toph because he's prone to take katara's side in arguments, and also she insults appa, which is the final straw for him, even though toph is fully right about appa's shedding being how azula tracks them. toph leaves because she thought she was joining people who would make her feel respected, but they don't. katara literally mocks toph for being blind. i also got bullied for being disabled when i was their age, and i don't blame toph for not taking that shit. it's downright cruel. iroh helps her adjust her perspective, but ultimately sokka is the one who makes her feel most welcomed and seen, and while she loves katara and aang, it's clear that sokka is her best friend. he's also the only one who doesn't interfere in their fight in "the chase" (because he knows there's no winning against two extremely stubborn, sleep-deprived powerhouses).

katara didn't sacrifice her childhood for the sake of her family, her childhood was robbed from her. there's a crucial difference. she doesn't sacrifice her own emotional needs to comfort others, she engages in fruitful dialogues. the only person she actually sacrifices anything for is aang, you're right, and i do think that's extremely important as an aspect of her character. she believes in the power of the avatar, and she loves aang deeply. it's why if aang is the soul of the show, she is the heart.

zuko isn't a dad to aang, that's just a ridiculous thing to say, sorry. i don't think sokka is a dad to aang either, if anything they're brothers. zuko acts as a brother to aang and katara too. he's their older, grumpy, kind of an airhead, kind of a jerk brother. sort of like sokka 2: electric boogaloo, except unlike sokka, he's a wide-eyed idealist just like they are! idk where i was going with this. my point is i love this trio. lol

you're right to criticize what roach works said, but you were wrong not to specify the target of your criticism. just because someone adds a dumbass comment on my post doesn't mean i endorse it. and just because i make a post appreciating sokka doesn't mean i don't love katara. i mean, i think it should be pretty obvious that i love her a lot. it seems like we grew up in fairly similar circumstances, and while i know what it's like to grow up with a cerebral math bro misogynist brother who gets far more credit for doing far less work and is utterly fucking useless at taking care of himself, that doesn't mean i resent sokka, a fictional character, for whatever commonalities they may share.

katara and sokka are both flawed, multi-dimensional, well-written fictional characters, and i've given a lot of thought to their motivations, nuances, and the unspoken symbolic undertones of their dynamic and its relation to the themes of the narrative. we don't have to agree on what every unspoken detail signifies, but i don't appreciate being misinterpreted, and i especially don't appreciate the implication that i don't love katara, because i absolutely fucking do, with my whole heart, and anyone can see that. she means a lot to me!!! her virtues, her strengths, her flaws, and her failures. she doesn't have to be perfect to be amazing. in fact, if she were perfect, i doubt she'd be amazing at all.

#analysis #katara #sokka #katara&sokka #aang&katara #katara&zuko #might turn a lot of these points into longer analyses eventually #since this is really scattered considering it's just a response to a response to a response of some annoying mf #who loves leaving annoying ass comments on my posts #pour one out...... #(to be clear im talking abt the roach guy. not the biscuit guy) #literally read this reply at 7 am and then spent the next 4.5 hours responding to it????? procrastination is a hell of a drug....... #also being-right-itis. which i do need to be cured of. but not today!!!!!! #anyway im putting this under the cut so hopefully no one sees this and takes it as incentive to harass this person???? which shouldnt need #to be said but i do have way too many followers on here statistically speaking some of u MUST be freaks #sigh. #anyway i hate how widespread the term headcanon is even when what ppl really mean in that context is 'interpretation' #headcanon =/= interpretation #and anyway it seems like we mostly agree #so i think this convo should end here on a cordial note in which we agree on most things and agree to disagree on notes of interpretation #because otherwise we're just going in circles #and there's really no point to that

[ilynpilled]

george did not write “if i were a woman id be cersei” and vice versa as correct statements imo. while i do believe that their respective trials that they faced as a result of their gender had grave effects on them as people and shaped them into much of what they are, i still think there are fundamental differences in nature. like this is demonstrated by how differently they acted as little children (treatment of tyrion, murder of melara, etc). i think they have some core distinctions. especially with what they personally desire the most above all else and their differing levels of empathy. this was no doubt influenced by their experiences and societal roles as well but i do still think it is part of their nature too. they have some very interesting and important similarities, but they are by no means the exact same only distinguished by experiences. i think it is always a mix of nature and nurturer, like your experiences can suppress or intensify certain qualities that you have, for better or worse. they have agency. they responded to their trauma in their own way. the twins not being the same person on a fundamental level is meant to be subversive. put in opposite positions i do not think we would have the exact same people just switched. like this feels like it is emphasized in the text to me

#like even when jaime says that line it feels ironic #he says hed make them kill him #but cersei did in fact go thru that #and she did not make them kill her #once again just random twitter thread was put on my feed #dont even disagree w some of it #just believe this part is not very correct #i always wondered if they were opposite genders they might have turned out to be more well adjusted #maybe yes maybe not we cant know for sure it depends on the circumstances #i do think it seems to allign w their core desires more and could end up being less devastating #u can argue how that core desire really developed in cersei to begin with #but still i think she is just an inherently more ambitious person than jaime in this regard #like maybe cers would have a healthier relationship w power if she had more access to it #but then again like both are constructs that could destroy them anyway #there is an inherent violence present in both that could destroy a person #like it did the both of them in canon #so that might happen again but just in different ways #and if we r gonna get into the biology of it (not that it matters its not like asoiaf canon is good at this shhshs) they are fraternal twins #same as regular siblings

[jupiterjunebug]

Shaking the bars of my enclosure, screaming "they're fucking nineteen. The reason they are making suboptimal decisions is that they are nineteen! And going through trauma!"

#yang not noticing her sister is Going Through It #bc she got high on the exhilaration of not being a parentified older sister anymore #and DARED to get distracted by what might be the first real romantic relationship shes had? #nineteen #weiss telling whitley 2 go 2 his room rather than immediately recognizing hed gone thru the same abuse as her and also needs help? #blake panicking bc she got yelled at and fearing the first home she built after leaving her abusive ex? #ruby making suboptimal tactical decisions and self destructing when they dont work out? #fucking EIGHTEEN #thinking ur grown enough to take on the world but being young enough you cant make the ideal choices is like #Peak teen experience #esp in this chapter where the whole focus is on defining ur identity #and growing into who u r #no shit the teenagers wont b perfect when flung into the define yourself dimension #most ppl i kno r still struggling with defining themselves and extending sympathy to those they disagree w in their mid 20s #or later #rwby rant