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littlemisssquiggles · 4 days

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In today’s episode, Jaune revealed that Lewis and Alyx were actually residents of Vacuo Kingdom (surprise, surprise) during a time before the Great War. And since we know that Lewis actually returned from the Ever After, it make wonder something curious.

If Lewis was the author of the Girl Who Fell Through the World fairy-tale then it would make perfect sense as to why he omitted himself from the written adventures in the Ever After and chose to make Alyx the protagonist. It makes sense since, unlike Lewis, Alyx never returned home and basically “died” in the Ever After.

So my assumption is that Lewis must’ve maintained his sister’s story through his story about her. That way Alyx’s legacy was able to live on in some shape or form despite the real Alyx practically ceasing to exist after never returning home.

Since Jaune was shown to still be have some qualms over his time in the Ever After, it got me thinking.

What if…Jaune were to (somehow) discover the original journal of Lewis which he had used to record his experience in the Ever After in the Vacuo archives?

What if…Jaune were to meet someone closely connected to Lewis and Alyx while in Vacuo? Like a surviving member of their family bloodline still thriving in modern Remnant.

What if… Headmaster Theodore was that surviving member? I know the main popular theory is that Lewis was one of Ozma’s reincarnations but imagine if Lewis wasn’t an Ozma reincarnation but Theo’s ancestor instead?

I haven’t read either of the RWBY After the Fall books so I’m not familiar with Headmaster Theodore in terms of characterization or like what his backstory is.

That being said, I do, however like the idea of the final maiden being connected to Theo in some shape or form.

For me, I like the prospect of the Summer Maiden being either Theo’s daughter or younger sister or cousin or niece or some important person to him as she’s probably the only family he has left.

Again, I don’t know anything about Theo but thus far, none of the other headmasters of the huntsmen academies have had any reason to be protective of their respective maiden outside of a moral obligation as per Ozpin’s instructions.

To make Theo stand out more, I think it would be a nice change of pace if Theo, the final headmaster, were to share an actual connection to the final maiden as she is a beloved relative of his.

Why bring this up? Well I like the idea of Jaune forming a close relationship with another Maiden candidate. Maybe he could even fall in love with the Summer Maiden.

Technically, Jaune hasn’t had a legit love interest since Pyrhha and I don’t know about ya’ll but…after six seasons (and half a movie), I’m kind of tired of being reminded of Arkos, ya’ll.

It was the Ship that was meant to be that never got to be because Writers decided to kill it off early.

Don’t get me wrong. I love Arkos. Arkos was a great ship that was gone too soon.

To (finally) close the chapter on Jaune moving on from Pyrhha (since even after all of his growth, I still don't think he's over her as the show keeps constantly bringing up whenever they can)...

I think it actually might be cute if Jaune does end up being romantically involved with the Summer Maiden who he actually succeeds in protecting from Cinder when she comes to steal her powers.

I’ve grown tired of new maidens showing up in the story just to die for the sake of the powers being passed onto a main character.

Since Summer is the last maiden, it would be nice if Summer is the one to stop the cycle of original maiden deaths and she actually gets to live on even after opening the vault.

As much as I like WhiteKnight as a ship, I honestly gave up on it becoming canon after V5 dropped and nothing else was done to further develop Weiss and Jaune’s relationship as a prospective romance.

Yeah sure, V9 tossed us a crumb of Weiss being attracted to Jaune in his more mature Rusted Knight persona.

But after further deliberation, I’ve concluded that that little nugget of hope isn’t enough to get me back on the horse of hoping for a romance between these two.

Do you know what would actually be pretty wild?

If Jaune fell in love with the Summer Maiden who is not only a red-head (like Pyrhha) but is also a descendent of Lewis who is the author of the Girl Who Fell Through the World and thus a relative of Alyx.

And unlike Alyx and Pyrhha who Jaune failed to protect/help/save, Jaune is able to do just that with the Summer Maiden by protecting her from Cinder and thus, the two are able to live happily ever after.

That would actually be wild.

Not saying this would become true in the canon. I'm just tossing it out into the RWBY FNDM ether as a food for thought.

~LMS (2024)

#squiggles talks: rwby #jaune arc #alyx rwby #lewis rwby #lewis and alyx #rwby spoilers #pyrhha nikos #rwby theories

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itsclydebitches · 2 months

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So any thoughts on the news from Rooster Teeth regarding The stuff they're putting on the rooster teeth site?

I've only heard about this all second-hand, but the anthology series in particular has me going "Meh" at best and "Not again" at worst. The latter because (as we're all well aware) RWBY has a long history of dividing up information across its (flexible) canon, rather than consolidating it within the story proper, which makes that story... a mess. So I can perfectly picture a version of Volume 10 where important questions/revelations/world building are glossed over—or outright ignored—and when fans rightly want to know why the main characters aren't getting info about what occurred while they were gone, the answer is, "Oh we heard about that in passing in the side show developed during the hiatus." Emphasis on "we"—the viewers. RWBY tends to assume that if the viewer has certain information then they don't need to repeat that for the characters, despite this being a series where secrets and half-truths abound. And while that's a logistical issue all on its own, it also robs us of the chance to see the characters reacting. I don't want to watch a side installment to figure out what was happening in Remnant during Volume 9, then watch a Volume 10 where I have to assume via twitter announcements that the girls maybe learned about an undetermined amount of that stuff off screen. I want to SEE them learning with us in real time and once we have that framework, yeah, then you can flesh it out with an anthology series. It's far more satisfying to learn alongside Ruby that—as a random example—Sun and Neptune had all these cool adventures as a way of forwarding their friendship, then see those adventures animated down the line. As opposed to seeing it and then going, "I guess Ruby heard about that too? Maybe?? They haven't actually interacted on screen yet though, so...."

Of course, this is likely being done not only to fill the RWBY void, but to get our some of that Volume 10 info (epilogue included) in case the real deal is never green-lit. But again, I'd rather have confirmation. If Volume 10 is never going to arrive then fine, I get it, you publish what you can. But if there is still a chance of it happening then RT is shooting itself in the narrative foot by rushing and telling bits of the story too early. The hook of Volume 9's ending is the shock of seeing everyone semi-united in Vacuo, but still dealing with a myriad of problems. What happened immediately after evacuation? How did people rebuild? When (and why tf) did Ruby become this god-like martyr? Have they already spoken to Theodore? What new plans have been made to combat Salem? There are a lot of questions that arise from a time skip, questions the characters share, but if the audience gets many of those answers before they do AND the show doesn't lean into repeating that information for us to indulge in the characters' emotional reactions to it instead... what little that's currently interesting about Volume 10 goes down the drain.

#rwde #rwby #mymetas

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howlingday · 5 months

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au where jaune finds a magic sword when he's younger. it becomes his best friend and agrees to help him become a legendary hero since that's what it was made for in the first place. thing is no one else can hear it speak so everyone thinks jaune's insane. he's also extremely powerful and can use his aura in really interesting ways... he's just terrible at actually using the sword. might need some remedial training in that good thing he's going to beacon TLDR: jaune's a level 15 warlock, whos just now starting to pick up his first levels in paladin how does the story change? (just wanted to see how you think jaune's build would be different if he started off with a warlock instead of being pure paladin like we see in the show)

Hero of Dark Hope

Jaune's family trip to Vacuo had gone a strange direction. Though he was told to stay close to his sisters, his sense of adventure got the better of him... Well, his sister, too, but it's not like he tried to stop her. But the sands of Vacuo are not for those weak of heart. This lesson would be learned when he fell into a sinkhole that swallowed him faster than he could scream. He fell into the freezing cold water, thrashing about the grotto waters until he floundered his way to the cold comfort of dry land.

Jaune was alone, separate from his family. He called out to them, tears building in his eyes. He wanted to be a hero like his ancestors before him, but the cruel reality that he could die alone and so far away from his family was a very heartrending thought. He sobbed and wailed for every family member he could, hoping his voice would be carried up to them.

"ENOUGH!" Jaune whirled around to the center of the pool he was soaked from. "Your cowardice sickens me! Are you not a Maiden?!"

"N-No!" Jaune called back. "I'm a boy!"

"A boy? Where is the Maiden?"

"I'm..." Jaune gulped, sensing decreasing hostility, "I'm the only one here."

"Is that so? How did you enter my chambers?"

"I... I fell through the sands up there." Jaune pointed to the dark ceiling. Light began to glow bright from the pool until the beacon revealed itself to be a large, ornately crystalline sword floating in the air. "Who... Who are you?"

"I..." A small blue child decorated with golden strands of jewelry began, sitting atop the handle on his toes. His foxlike ears flicked as he grinned a toothy smile, "...am Yoki. The spirit who resides within the Sword of Destruction."

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"Whoa! What is that?!"

"C-Crap!" Jaune quickly tucked the hilt into his back pocket. "You saw that?!"

"Heck yeah!" Ruby said with eyes shining. "What is that weapon? I've never seen a sword like that! Can I hold it?!"

'Jaune, she's annoying me.' Yoki groaned into Jaune's ears. 'Can we blow her up?'

"No!" Jaune shouted.

"Oh! Right!" Ruby cleared her throat. "May I hold it?"

"Er, n-no. I, uh..." Jaune gulped. He made a deal with Professor Ozpin about Yoki. He doesn't tell anyone about it, and nobody has to know he has it. Well, now somebody does know. The biggest weapon's nut in Beacon, if not the whole world. Well, here he was now, so now he had to deal with it.

'Now?'

"No." Jaune said with a sharp tone, making Ruby flinch. "Oh, er, s-sorry. I was... Nevermind. I'm still saying no. See, I'm kind of not supposed to tell anyone about this weapon."

"Why not?"

"Um... It's a secret?" Jaune said with a sheepish grin.

'Wow, that was a really bad lie.'

"Wow, that was a really bad lie." Ruby echoed. "But I can respect your decision. And you can trust me! I won't tell anyone about your secret Grimm-killing weapon!"

"Thanks, Ruby." Jaune let out a huge sigh. "But, uh, since we're already keeping secrets, how about I at least bring you up to speed on me and Yoki."

"Yoki?" Ruby asked. "Why's your sword named Yoki?"

'I'm not HIS sword!' Yoki screeched, making Jaune cringe. 'I'm my own sword!'

"They're, uh, really sensitive about saying they're my sword. It's more like I'm borrowing it."

"Oh, you mean like Crocea Mors?"

"...Kinda?"

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Jaune clashed hard with Cinder in the realm between Kingdoms. He was so close to getting people safely out of Atlas, but then SHE had to show up of all times! With Crocea Mors destroyed, he had no choice but to bring out the big guns. Or big sword in this case.

"Finally!" Cinder said with glee. "I'll have three relics in one go!"

"You'll have to kill me, first!" Jaune charged at her, blade at the ready.

"That's the idea!"

Cinder swooped low, swinging her glass sword in with an intense heat behind it. Jaune could feel it, but it would still shatter into, well, glass once Jaune and Yoki struck against her. Seeing him easily best her sword, she expanded the distance, shifting her tactics to more ranged options. Arrows sliced through the air as Jaune backed away, his aura already catching a few. He was smart enough to swat them off once he felt the heat.

'Yoki, do you trust me?'

'Not a good time to ask, but yes.'

'Good, because I have a dumb plan.'

'As if that ever changed anything.'

Jaune decided to close the distance, charging towards Cinder, who continued to fire makeshift arrows. He dove, his hair receiving a small shave of a few strands. As he rolled forward, the exploding arrow launched him like a missile along the ground. As his shield skidded against the ground, he activated the gravity dust, the shock racking his body as he suddenly launched backwards, into the air. As he soared high into the air, Cinder chased after him with manic glee on her face. He readied Yoki, roaring as he came crashing towards her.

"CINDEEEEEER!"

#rwby #hexblade/paladin! jaune au #rwby au #dungeons and dragons #dnd #d&d #dungeons & dragons #ruby rose #cinder fall

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kitkatopinions · 2 months

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I think it was a mistake to make RWBY a grand epic adventure with relics, maidens, gods, and a supervillain. Keep the show within the simple and fun academy setting with a monster of the week style formula. With the occasional field trip to other places to freshen things up and meet new faces. As bad as the writers are, this would play to their strengths and not their weaknesses. Instead of bloating the cast and inventing new ideas only to never revisit them all while failing basic worldbuilding. Simplifying the story and limiting concepts to dust, aura, and semblances would also save money too. What do you think?

For sure. If we were talking about different writers, I'm actually one of those people that has no problem with the big changes RWBY underwent.

Back when V3 and V4 were new to me, I was totally on board with the changes! A good show can go through a... I don't want to call it a genre shift, but at the very least a plot shift. Things go from 'Ruby Rose and her friends attend a combat school, but there's something brewing under the surface' into 'Team RWBYJNROQ are on a world-saving adventure quest that will take them all over the world searching for magical objects while opposed by an immortal villain.' And to me, that's fine... Except that the writers couldn't handle that strain and couldn't manage to turn one into the other.

They're some weird combination of writers who plan and writers who fly by the seat of their pants, as in it feels like they have some things set that they want to do but never know how they'll get there and then just fumble to do it. This is a pretty bad thing when the show actually relies on things like magic system and world building now. A loose magic system was fine when it was 'Team RWBY has super-powers, they're in school to help them use it to destroy giant robots' but it's not fine when it's 'Team RWBY want to use the magical staff to save Penny and make a magical route to Vacuo and have to use the specific magical rules to do it and then they fall into a magical world that the gods came from.' That requires care and attention and lore-building, all things that the writers aren't good at. And big overarching plots are great, but not when the writers can't seem to actually get anywhere with it, can't seem to remember to have the mains learn and grow in significant ways, can't seem to keep track of who knows what, and can't seem to make their writing choices have any real significant impact.

I say this all the time, but the reason I have so many problems with the writing in RWBY isn't the thing itself, it's the fact that the writers don't understand what they can and can't handle.

This is why if a RWBY rewriter or fixer is like 'here's how I'd handle serious topics like XYZ' or is like 'I still plan to kill Penny/Pyrrha' or 'I'm definitely still including Maidens/Relics/Gods' or even does something like have Oz in Jaune's head or something, I'll caution them to be careful but I have zero problem with it actually because there's very little that I think a skilled and passionate writer can't do well (this is also why I'm never gonna be a 'stop making live actions' girlie.) But as for the RWBY writers we do have, yeah, they really should've stuck to what they were good at, the slightly more low stakes fun with an underlying tension somewhat episodic monster-of-the-week thing about teenagers and their fun little dramas. I'm not even trying to say that badly, I think I would love it! But instead what we got is a hot mess of jumbled half-complete ideas that are badly written at best and actively offensive and harmful at worst.

What a bummer.

#rwde

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goldenamaranthe-blog · 5 months

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RWBY x Pokémon Adventures

Taiyang: (petting Zwei the shiny Yampfer) I don't know, Qrow. I think Yang is too young to have her first Pokémon. Where did you even find a Riolu anyway?

Qrow: (still astonished that Tai hadn't noticed Zwei is a shiny Pokémon yet as he rubs his Corviknight's beak) She’s fine. Ruby found that Roselia in the garden, and you weren't this uptight about her keeping it. You're being too stringent with Yang for no reason.

Taiyang: (blatantly ignoring Qrow) You're deflecting. Where did you even find a Riolu?

BA-BAM!!!

Taiyang: What in the world?! (Jumps up and runs into the house)

Qrow: (leisurely follows behind while sipping his coffee)

Yang & Riolu: (jolt ramrod straight and try to cover the two holes in the wall)

Yang: Uh... Hi, Dad!

Riolu: (knocks his knuckles together shyly) Ri-Rio...

Taiyang: (balks at the sheer size of the two holes nearly collapsing the wall)

Qrow: Huh. That must be why those black market merchants in Vacuo wanted to get rid of him so badly. (Sips coffee)

Based off this comic.

#yang xiao long #rwby #rwby crack post #pokemon au #Pokémon #riolu #zwei #yampfer #corviknight #qrow branwen #taiyang xiao long

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sawrinwrites · 1 month

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Sawrin does Bumbleby Week

I know I said I was going to use this month to focus on OC content, but I am a recklessly impulsive dumbass, so when the prompt list for Bumbleby Week went up and I realised I was accidentally completing the prompt for day 1, my brain went “Welp! Might as well do all 8!” and I agreed.

Some of these are based on concepts I've already been developing for future multi-chapter fics. I've marked those ones with a * by the title so you guys can let me know which ones you want to see the most.

Here’s what you can expect to see over the next 8 days:

Day 1 - Bumblebaby

Title: Expecting

Summary: A new story in the As Told By Ember collection. This tale follows the best girl as she helps her humans prepare for the arrival of their first child.

Author’s Comment: You can thank @reeves3 for this one. Without their suggestion, I wouldn’t have had the inspiration to build out a collection of Ember’s adventures.

Day 2 – Jock & Nerd AU

Title: I See You*

Summary: Weiss knows Blake and Yang are in love, she just hasn’t figured out a way to get them together yet. When Blake accidentally submits the wrong poem to her class and Yang ends up writing an essay on it, Weiss finally finds the opening she’s been waiting for.

Author’s Comment: This fit the prompt better when it was from Yang and Blake’s POV, but the story worked better from Weiss’ so that's what I wrote. Bees trauma-bonding through literature (a concept that is very near and dear to my heart).

Day 3 – Soulmates / Reincarnation

Title: And Every Time I’ll Find You

Summary: As another one of Blake’s lives draw to a close, she and Yang return to the place where it all began.

Author’s Comment: My beta reader banned me from writing soulmate stories because of this. It’s a sad one.

Day 4 – Nomad Blake & Farm Girl Yang

Title: Maybe This Year

Summary: The Kuo Kuana dragon riders make their annual visit to the floating island of Patch. For most, it’s a chance to relax. For Blake, it’s a chance to reunite with Yang and wonder how many more times she’s going to be able to leave.

Author’s Comment: Pretty sure the last time I wrote about dragons was when the years still had 00 in the middle of them. My inner child had a field day with this one. A more fun and light fic than the summary might suggest.

Day 5 – Evil Yang / Blake (or both)

Title: A Weak and Foolish Heart*

Summary: Sequestered to a keep in the middle of the Vacuo desert, the blood mage Blake leverages her skills and her history with Yang to try and ascertain the location of Princess Weiss Schnee.

Author’s Comment: This one’s the reason why each day is getting posted as a new piece of work instead of chapters under one project. Tags for blood, gore, graphic violence, and depictions of torture. I spent hours researching tendon names and positions for this. It’s also the fic that most closely resembles my preferred writing style (make of that fact what you will).

Day 6 – Comfort

Title: The Way It Feels*

Summary: Blake and Yang attempt to be intimate for the first time since Yang’s accident but the loss of sensations in Yang’s arm triggers a panic attack instead. Blake comforts her wife in the aftermath.

Author’s Comment: I’m sorry, it wouldn’t be a Sawrin fic without angst before the comfort.

Day 7 – AU Day

Title: Double Date*

Summary: After Weiss accidentally accepts an invitation to be the third wheel at a dinner date with Pyrrha and her girlfriend, Yang, she begs her best friend, Blake, to join as her fake girlfriend. An easy ask, if Blake didn’t find herself attracted to the blonde on the other side of the table.

Author’s Comment: I was going to put up a vote on which AU to do but the second I added “Fake Dating” to the list my brain went “What if the Bees weren’t the ones who were fake dating?” So here you go, fake dating monochrome with (assumed) Greek fire. Bees & Schneekos endgame. Also an excuse for me finally write Blake into that dress.

Day 8 – Bonus / VA Appreciate Day

Title: Downtime

Summary: Blake and Yang discuss the lives of their VAs, as well as their own budding relationship.

Author’s Comment: The shortest one of the lot, this is really just a small love letter to the Bees and to Barb and Arryn.

I'll be posting a link to each fic under the Bumbleby Week tag as they go live.

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aspoonofsugar · 1 year

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Say question, do you have a post talking about Wizard of Od allusions in RWBY? Some are pretty obvious, such as the Tinman, Ironheart, rejecting his hummanity/heart, and Leo Lionheart being the cowardly lion. But do you have a detailed breakdown about Gylinda, Qrow and Ozpin in regards to their allusions?

And is Ruby Dorothy as well as Little Red Ridding Hood? Or is there no Dorothy?

Hi!

I have never written a whole meta dedicated to The Wizard of Oz in RWBY, but I think there are some pieces here and there.

Anyway, I don't know the story super well, so I am rather sure I am missing several details. That said, here are some thoughts on the Wizard of Oz Allusion in RWBY.

First of all, this allusion works on two different levels:

It interests the World of Remnant

It interests individual characters

WORLD ALLUSION

The world of Remnant has become the Kingdom of Oz, not because it is based uniquely on this narrative world, but rather because it is the fruit of an endless conflict between The Wizard of Oz and the Evil Witch of the West.

Ozpin and Salem's feud has been defining the world for centuries, so their allusion has ended up permeating all of Remnant.

By this, I mean that the entirety of Remnant is ruled by "Wizard of Oz"'s characters:

Ozpin is the Wizard of Oz > Beacon

Leo is the Cowardly Lion > Mistral

Ironwood is the Tin Man > Atlas

Theodore is Dorothy > Vacuo

Moreover, we have Qrow (the Scarecrow) and Glynda (The Good Witch of the North) as Oz's henchmen. Do you see the pattern? The most influencial people in Remnant are all linked to Oz and all reference characters of his fairy tale. All together they are the crew chosen by the Wizard to defeat the Evil Witch of the West.

In short, Oz allusion has "conquered the world" because Ozpin and Salem are too intertwined with the history of Remnant (they basically made it).

However, this doesn't meant RWBY is a re-telling of the Oz's books. It references them, sure, but RWBY's narrative universe is wider, as we saw this volume.

In volume 8, the characters step away from the yellow brick road and enter a brand new world:

The Ever After, aka Wonderland. A completely different setting for a completely different story. A story, which is really not defined by Salem and Ozma, but rather by Alyx and Lewis.

Meta-narratively, the characters leave Ozma and Ozpin's story for a while and enter into Alyx's adventure. This is also why the main plot is on break this season.

OZ CHARACTERS: OLD GENERATION VS NEW GENERATION

As mentioned above, Ozpin's crew all allude to Oz's characters. Still, they are actually inversions of their literary counterparts. To be specific, they fail, where their characters succeed:

The Cowardly Lion wants courage, but Lionheart betrays Ozpin and sides with Salem out of fear. He gives up his bravery.

The Scarecrow wants a brain, but Qrow decides to blindly follow Oz without asking himself any question about him. He gives thinking for himself.

The Tin-Man wants a heart, but Ironwood chooses to lose his hunamity to become a machine. He gives up his feelings.

It is too soon to comment on Theodore's allusion on Dorothy, but he will probably be an inversion too.

What is sure is that Ozpin's crew is made of adults that have been traumatized and corrupted by the long war they have been fighting. This is where the new generation comes in.

Blake, Yang and Weiss allude to Dorothy's three friends:

Blake is the Cowardly Lion - she starts the story as a "scaredy-cat", but learns to conquer her fears and stops running away

Yang is the Scarecrow - she starts the story as a "himbo", but she grows smarter and wiser

Weiss is the Tin-Man - she starts the story as an "ice-queen", but she grows warmer and kinder

Notice that "bravery", "heart" and "brain" fit the body, heart and mind archetypes, which are very easily found in stories. This is why the fandom is able to apply these three allusions rather easily in the series. Basically, any character is either mind or heart :P (see, you can also see Blake as the mind to Yang's heart).

So, why do I say BYW allude to these specific characters? They do because of 2 reasons:

Some motifs they have confirm this

They all foil their respective older counterpart when it comes to their overal story-line and flaw

Blake and Lionheart

Blake is a scaredy-cat, while Lionheart is supposedly the Cowardly Lion. Both are Faunus in a position of power. Blake is the daughter of the Chief of Managerie, while Leo is the Headmaster of Haven. So, both are in a position where they can change things for the Faunus. Still, they both are afraid.

Blake is scared of Adam and this is why she leaves her group of friends and goes back home, where she thinks she will be safe. She temporally runs away from the main battle, seeking refuge in an island, which is peaceful, but also a prison.

Lionheart is scared of Salem, so he chooses to switch sides in an attempt to survive. He runs away from the battle metaphorically and later on he does so even physically, as his last action is to escape leaving EM and Hazel on their own.

In the end, though, Blake comes back and decides to fight for what is right. Lionheart instead doesn't and is punished with death. Blake is a scaredy cat, but she is also braver than everyone else. Lionheart is a lion, but he is a coward.

Blake and Lionheart's foiling is ultimately about what they do and don't do for the Faunus, especially. After all, Lionheart was supposedly put in charge of Mistral because a Faunus as an authority figure seemed like the best option to overcome racism in the Kingdom. And yet, Blake's actions in Mistral do more good for that than anything Lioheart has ever done.

Yang and Qrow

Yang and Qrow's foiling is about their relationship with Raven and Oz, really.

Qrow trusts Ozpin blindly and doesn't mind Raven's doubts or reservations. He refuses Raven's philosophy of asking the right questions:

Raven: Now you're catching on. So far you've done nothing but accept what others tell you, (puts her cup down) but you need to question everything.

Yang instead does integrate this part in her and starts asking questions of both Raven and Ozpin, aka her two main authority figures. This leads her to become wiser:

Yang: No, I'm starting to ask questions like you said. So tell me… what happened to the last Spring Maiden? Did she die in battle? Was it sickness?

When the truth about Ozpin comes out, Qrow and Yang are among the most disturbed by it because they are both triggered. Qrow dedicated his whole life to a man, who was never honest with him. Yang instead gets angry at another authority figure "running away". However, Yang has grown enough to withstand the setback, while Qrow is undone.

In short, Yang and Qrow's foiling is really about demanding the truth from the people they are following and learning to think with their own heads. It is about accepting the complexity of the world and to carve their own paths. Without letting others lead them around.

As an additional note, Yang fits the Scarecrow symbolism for a very heartbreaking reason. Scarecrows are meant to scare ravens and crows and the Oz character initially can't fulfill this purpose. The birds tell him he is too stupid to really scare them. So, the Scarecrow wants to become smarter.

Well, Yang does become smarter, but her wisdom is so keen it drives a cowardly bird away:

Weiss and Ironwood

Weiss and Ironwood are both Atlas elite, who learnt to suppress their feelings in order to meet the impossible expectations of their society.

They have the same problem: mind and heart contradict each other. It is just that Weiss chooses to follow her heart and becomes one:

I'm shattering the mirror that kept me split in pieces That stood between my mind and my heart This is where I'll start

Ironwood instead chooses to negate his hear and becomes no-one:

What if it’s true as they say That I don’t have a heart That I'm more a machine than a man? What would that change? Would it matter at all? I've made my plan Hearts and minds may not agree Emotions topple strategy

This juxtaposition is well conveyed through their shared Tin-Man motif...

Weiss's Tin Man is a proud Knight:

Ironwood's Tin Man is a mindless robot:

Let's highlight the first time Weiss summons her Knight is after all in juxtaposition to a hacked Paladin, which is used to attack people, rather than to protect them. So, we have our Brave Knight vs a Mindles Robot.

Other than them, there is another old vd new generation foiling going on (obviously):

Ozpin/Oscar where Ozpin is the old generation wizard, who gave up on trust, while Oscar is the new generation wizard who keeps having faith no matter what.

Their foiling is explored also through their allusions:

Ozpin alludes to the wizard of Oz > an impostor who acts as an almightly being

Oscar alludes to princess Ozma/Top > the true Queen of Oz

Ironically, Ozpin's real name is Ozma, while Oscar's name is the one of the Wizard. So, they are like... criss-crossed.

Oscar's introduction happening after Beacon also makes sense because... in the books the first novel focuses on the Wizard of Oz and Dorothy, while Ozma is introduced only in a later book. So, the moment our wizard (Ozpin) is death, our Princess Ozma (Oscar) is introduced. Other then this, Oscar's developing bond with Emerald may allude to the Emerald City aka the Town ruled by the Wizard where everyone wears green-glasses, which make everything appears as green.

Now then, what about Dorothy?

TWO DOROTHIES

Apart from Theodore (the titular Dorothy), I think there are 2 other characters that fit the description:

Both Ruby and Oscar allude to Dorothy in different ways:

Oscar lives in a farm with his aunt before going on an adventure and during his journey, he gains a pair of red boots. If you follow this reasoning, then you can headcanon JNR as another trio that loosely fits the Cowardly Lion (Jaune maybe), the Scarecrow (Nora) and the Tin Man (Ren). Still, I think they fit less.

Ruby is noticed by the titular Wizard of Oz because of her silver eyes, whereas Dorothy's slippers are silver in the books. She leaves for a journey in order to fix a world the Wizard is unable to fix

Not only that, but RWBY's main-plot loosely follows that of the classical Oz story. Ruby meets the Wizard and is given the mission to defeat the Evil Witch of the West with 3 friends (each lacking something). During her journeys she meets Oscar (Ozma). Moreover, the reason why the Evil Witch of the West is interested in her is her silver eyes. An ability that emerges when Ruby uses it against Cinder aka a younger version of the Witch herself. In the classical Oz story, Dorothy's arrival in Oz kills another less powerful evil witch and she takes the slippers as a result. Here, Ruby uses her eyes on Cinder and then she is targeted by Salem.

Notice also that Ruby's volume 4 short has her fighting this:

Specifically she goes from Bewolves (LRRH's story) to this very intelligent Monkey Grimm (Oz's allusion). It is as if Ruby's personal arc is LRRH, but her journey when it comes to the bigger picture is similar to Dorothy's.

Thank you for the ask!

#rwby #stormmodblog #asksfullofsugar #once upon an allusion #rwby meta

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asmallermorehonestsoul · 3 days

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RWBY Beyond: A Knight's Journal

Jaune tries to develop a new perspective.

Poor Jaune trying to adjust...

Love Nora bragging abt him being the Rusted Knight though lol

Bananas!

Please are there any therapists in Remnant??? AT least he can talk to Oz/Oscar...

Poor Oscar and Oz trying to find off the merger but it's getting hard...

I actually do like the advice of trying to remember the positives, not ignoring the bad but knowing that they happened and meant something

Juniper!!

So Alyx and Lewis were from pre-Great War Vacuo, over 80 years before RWBY's time! Nice to know! Makes sense, the book would need time to be known.

Splaturday, how cute

Lewis was writing it down to help Jaune.... awww...

And they thought his adventures were cool! Much cooler than he himself did...

Him missing _NPR TT.TT seeing Pyrrha appear was a punch to the heart...

Miles Luna you are too good at voicing Jaune being on the verge of tears and making me sad you need to stop

"Do you think we're gonna make it?" "Around that campfire, did it matter?" "...No,, I guess it didn't" my heart...

Jaune has been through so much and we rlly need therapy for these kids... I am glad he and Oscar/Ozpin can talk to each other though... And getting to know a little more about Alyx and Lewis was cool! Even if we know how it ended, it was nice to see the happy moments they shared like the short says.

#rwby #rwby beyond #rwby spoilers #rwby beyond spoilers #my reactions

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superiorsturgeon · 9 months

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Ruby: *explaining the story of RWBYJ’s adventures in the Ever After*

Ruby: …and then I guess that brings us up to when you found us outside Vacuo!

Ruby: *turns to WBYJ* Did I forget anything?

Weiss: Oh! What about how handsome Jaune was as the Rusted Knight?

Nora: Hey! Jaune-Jaune is handsome right now!

Jaune: Aww! Thanks Nora!

Nora: But did anyone get a picture?

Weiss: *pulls out her Scroll*

Nora: …

Nora: …Ren…?

Ren: Yes Nora?

Nora: …I’m going to need you to stop shaving.

#rwby #jaune arc #pyrrha nikos #ruby rose #weiss schnee #nora valkyrie #lie ren #renora #ren x nora #lie Ren X Nora Valkyrie

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The justification for Sun leaving is lame. He's a bad leader so he has to make it up to his useless team by going on some pointless side adventure with CFVY in Vacuo? Did nobody tell him about Salem and how they need all hands on deck to stop her? Seeing as how we will probably never see Vacuo before RWBY is cancelled also makes that side adventure totally worthless in the end.

totally, tbh. the only reason sun left was to get him out of the picture so they could then shove bumbleby into the main frame. that's all.

they could've had black sun reunite in vacuo but now we can't have that because they ruined it.

i hope rwby is already cancelled and they're just keeping quiet about it. it's too little too late, and it can't be salvaged now unless they stop drinking the kool aid and throw bees away because it didn't make them as much money as they thought it would.

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72crowe89 · 21 hours

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RWBY Beyond Predictions

So, the last two episodes of RWBY Beyond are coming out this Saturday. The writers have stated before that four episodes were all they had time to animate, and that they had to change the scope of the series because of it. Given the differences between the first two episodes, my guess is that the series went from being what is happening in Vacuo with teases for a likely Volume 10, to creating a conclusive experience without really pushing the story forward in case of a less-than-likely Volume 10. In that regards, here is a list of things that might happen in the last two episodes (although not all of them), and what probably will not:

What might happen

Schnee Family scene (or at least a Weiss/Winter scene)

Ruby/Yang/Qrow scene

Nora's and/or Ren's evolutions in Vacuo

Oscar/Ozpin discussing the merge

Bumbleby moment

Ruby reflection scene

RWBY bonding scene where they reminisce about their adventures and vow to face the future together, whatever it brings

What probably won't happen

Focus on minor characters (Team CFVY, Ace Ops, Neon Katt, etc.)

Focus on characters with major story potential in a possible future volume (Emerald, Raven, Tai Yang, etc.)

Focus on the villains (Salem, Cinder, etc.)

Focus on Vacuo itself, including the Atlesian refugee situation

Hints, let along introductions, of new characters

Nora and Ren getting back together

Oscar and Ozpin completely merging

Any new romantic relationships happening

Any dramatic set piece (Vacuo being attacked, someone dying, etc.)

Selfishly, I want one last interaction between Ruby and Oscar, but I can't wait to see what the episodes have in store.

#rwby #rwby beyond #greenlight volume 10

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Do you think time flows differently in Remnant when one is in the Ever After? It looks like Jaune didn’t age much when he first met Alyx and Luis and when he met team RWBY. How do you think it could affect a potential reunion with RWBYJ with the others in Vacuo? Would also love to hear your thoughts on potential RG reunion and hugs. Thank you!

Hi there Slip!

That is actually something I have pondered about. Personally I would like it if there was some kind of time difference between Remnant and the Ever After since I’m not in favour of the time RWBYJ spent in the Ever After being rendered pointless by the time they return home in the sense that while they’ve been gone for what seemed like days or years in respect to Jaune, on the other side, it had only been more minutes since they were gone so the others didn’t get to really process their absence.

I would be genuinely disappointed if Oscar and the others barely had any time to process their comrade’s presumed deaths if RWBYJ simply returned at the exact moment in time when their friends all arrived in Vacuo.

I want the adventures in the Ever After to have an impact on the whole team including the ones who evaded falling into it. For me, I like the concept of a two to three year time skip between the rest of the hero team back in Remnant while RWBYJ have been in the Ever After.

Some fans and theorists have been hoping for that and this squiggle meister is all for it as well. I want this time skip to happen mainly because I’m curious to see what Ruby’s reaction would be if she were to return to Remnant to discover an older, more battle-hardened Oscar at age 17 who had basically assumed the role of leader in place of her and Jaune since both of them were lost to the Ever After.

I’m also curious what a 16 to 17-year-old Oscar Pine would look like and behave.

Plus I also like the potential irony of the show-runners potentially erasing the two year difference between the Rosegarden pair since if Ruby were to return to Remnant having not aged at all during her time in the Ever After while Oscar did by three more years; then technically the two would be a lot closer in age by the time they reunite. Ruby will still be 17 going on 18 while Oscar will be 17 too. That would be genuinely hilarious if this came true in the canon XD

That aside, I feel like what the writers are gearing us up for is Ruby not being the same person she was when Oscar first met her.

I feel like by the end of this volume Ruby will have some kind of major identity crisis. A part of me doesn’t want this volume to end with Ruby being 100% fixed by the Tree. I feel like Ruby is expected to change in more ways than one and become someone else. Or rather something else that isn’t Ruby Rose.

If Ruby isn’t herself anymore and has to live with adjusting to becoming a ‘different person’ while others still see her as her old self then who better to share in/help her through this kind of development than Oscar who is more or less going through the same thing.

Bottom-line, I feel like Ruby’s experience in the Ever After could potentially lead to her relationship with Oscar becoming closer/stronger than it was before.

If the recent episode’s events proved one thing to me is that Oscar matters a lot to Ruby. In respect to what I perceive a reunion between these two would look like---I dunno. It will really depend on how this volume ends in the next two episodes.

It’s like I said in this recent post from yesterday---

I can either see Ruby reacting to Oscar negatively, being too traumatized by the image of her killing him in cold blood as a result of Neo’s illusions to the point that she refuses to interact with Oscar; believing that the best thing for him would be for the two to not be as close as they were becoming since Ruby would be too scared to lose Oscar and the next volume will be about her and Oscar rebuilding their friendship; maybe even finding something deeper between them by realizing just how much they both mean to one another.

Either that or Ruby wouldn’t be able to contain her relief at seeing the real Oscar---to know that the nightmare version of him she saw in the Ever After was just a fake and she still had a second chance at protecting the one true Oscar who she cares about deeply. That being said, this could lead into a very touching hug moment between the two---one that us RG fans were starved of in V8.

It can go either way.

Depending on how V9 ends, I feel like in the next phase of the story (granted that V10 is greenlit), it can spark a big change in the dynamic of Ruby and Oscar’s relationship. I don’t know what the showrunners’ intentions for these two are but a part of me still wishes to believe that these two are meant to become closer. Each season just gives me more and more hints that that’s the case but who knows.

For now, these are my thoughts on that. I hope this answers your question m’fam.

~LMS (2023)

#squiggles answers: rwby #oscar pine #ruby rose #oscar and ruby #rwby rosegarden #rwby volume 9 spoilers #rwby theories

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