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val-of-the-north · 2 months

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More observations for the trailer I am going insane!!!

I can't claim the original observation of this candle tree detail is mine, but it's from a Japanese Twitter user, here's a screenshot of the post and a link to it as well [x]

The rest of this observation IS mine though, so let's get to it:

With all the talk of cardinal sin, Messmer having a few parallels to Lucifer as pointed out by some friends of mine [x] I have to wonder if he is the cause of a speculated first burning of the Erdtree.

If this is the first time you have heard about this concept, I'll give a short summary. You know how Leyndell is covered in ash by the time we reach it in-game, and how that goes unexplained? We know for a fact that must be the Erdtree's ashes because after we claim the Rune of Death and the Erdtree burns even more, the capital is entombed in it.

We are also told that the Age of Plenty, an age in which the Erdtree gave physical blessings from its sacred sap, swiftly came to a close and the tree had to be changed to simply an object of faith...

So the theory claims that the reason why the Age of Plenty ended so swiftly was due to the Erdtree being set on fire. In theory spaces, the go-to culprit for this speculated action has often been the Gloam-Eyed Queen, with her connections to fire (Blackflame specifically) and Destined Death, but now there's the possibility that this was all Messmer's doing after all. Promotional material and dialogue seems to really denote his affinity for scorching and setting things ablaze.

This probably also means he is the inventor of that scary flame construct that according to Miyazaki as per this interview [x] was an old war machine, no doubt used during this "unsung battle".

Another important part of Messmer's design is the two snakes, which point us back to the Age of Plenty! Godfrey likely ruled during and directly after that time, and the arenas were likely built because of him. It had to be during Godfrey's rule because by the time Radagon became Elden Lord the practices of the colosseums had died down, as told to us by the Ritual Sword and Shield Talismans:

One of the more interesting aspects of the gladiatorial battles that once took place is the snake symbolism on the gladiators' armor.

So the snake was a symbol of a generic "traitor to the Erdtree", and it predated Rykard's blasphemy by an entire age at least... so what if it wasn't generic at all and it represented Messmer himself? He might have been the perpetrator of a betrayal so foul that Marika removed all traces of his existence from her empire's history, but kept the symbol of the snake as a spiteful reminder of him and all other subsequent traitors. After all, she does seem to have power over which one of her children gets remembered or not, and if not her, then the collective of the Golden Order:

Do note that we don't know when she said this. It could have been while she was still at the height of her rule or right before the Shattering. What we do know for a fact is that the soulless demigods inside the Walking Mausoleums have no known history to speak of, which is quite unlike Godwyn, one of the more accomplished members of the family. So yeah, being forgotten by history might be something the Golden Order does to those they deem unfit, so Messmer could be a likely candidate for such treatment... except instead of doing nothing noteworthy he did TOO much lol.

Now I gotta wonder if Marika hated him more or less than her Omen babies. One could argue that locking them down in a sewer close to where she lives was done more as an obligation than any true resentment. She could have sent them to the Shadow Lands if she really wanted them gone and unaccessible, as that place seems filled with Crucible-related things...

I am not saying she was a good mother to them because she didn't kick them to the Shadow Lands, but perhaps she DID have some small affection for them that she really couldn't follow through with.

Of course, maybe she just couldn't banish them anymore after banishing Messmer for whatever reason (maybe she cut-off a connection to that realm?). However, the most likely possibility is that he WAS known like the many soulless demigods and that Mohg and Morgott predate him. It's just that while those two were born undesirable through no fault of their own and were thus only hidden away, he BECAME undesirable which was worse in Marika's eyes so he gets the extra banishment and the removal of all of his history... there are so many possibilities...

#elden ring #messmer the impaler #shadow of the erdtree #elden ring dlc #hi I am really excited if you couldn't tell #I'll try not to think about it too much for now since otherwise I'm gonna blow up because the info will never be ENOUGH #still I'm gonna speculate if some new cool revelation comes up #val-post

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enixamyram · 1 month

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I'm so fascinated with the background posters in Vee tower.

(Didn't include the ones in Val's room. Those ones make me super uncomfortable! XD Plus I do not want "sexy" Val pictures saved onto my computer for even a moment!)

#Hazbin Hotel #The Vees #Vox #Velvette #Valentino #Angel Dust #Edit: the reason for not including Val pics that I put on the post was honestly more of a joke #in the comments it explained it's cause his posters are more self indulgent sexy pics #while these are Vee Ads and the ads are what fascinates me...#Dunno if that helps any of the people disappointed I didn't include them lol XD

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digimonyuri · 1 year

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#val post #personal fave #meta knight is an amish #kirby

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sluttyhenley · 5 months

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#ObsessedWithThatGuy

TOP GUN (1986) dir. Tony Scott

#top gun #top gun 1986 #topgunedit #topgundaily #tom iceman kazansky #val kilmer #movieedit #moviegifs #filmedit #filmgifs #cinematv #*#if you see me posting top gun no you don't #icemav #sort of #he's such a freak (affectionate)

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badgerthethirteenth · 1 month

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Did some fanart for @tredlocity's comic series Val and Isaac. Also used the opportunity to experiment with lighting effects.

Full res here if you're interested.

#val and isaac #space dread #minnow #val #isaac #badgerthethirteenth #badger art #badger posts #tredlocity

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snow-white-shadow · 8 days

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Angel Dust talking about the Pan people in his life

#Hazbin Hotel #Angel Dust #Husk #HuskerDust #My Post #BOTH VAL AND HUSK HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED TO BE PAN

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kevin-ibw · 3 months

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Vox when Lucifer forgot to add the "up" part when he said he was gonna fuck Adam VS Vox when Niffty stabbed the shit out of Adam.

He's in the ace specs ya'll I'm telling you.

#hazbin hotel vox #hazbin hotel #i also cackled when i realized that val and velvette mirror each other's expressions whilst vox does the opposite #dont take this post too seriously i just like hitting characters with the haha ace beam because im ace #vox #is my bbg #asexuality #asexual vox

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sparklings-bf · 3 months

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what if you and your f/o were little cats

#val posting #self shipping community #self ship #f/o community #f/o imagines #i was gonna post this and be like ''me and sparkling'' but thats predictable. so instead im giving it to everyone #BUT STILL. me and sparkling.....#🥂 sparkling<3 #ALSO I DONT REMEMBER WHERE I GOT THESE IMAGES if i got them from another selfship post i am sorry my memory is really bad

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keekeenuggets · 18 days

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ALSO

Can we talk about how the Vees always hang out in the same room???

We first see it when Vox goes to calm Val down:

It's the same table, TV, and couches that are in the extermination watch party scene, and they're also the same couches that Val and Vel are hanging out on in Stayed Gone:

This poster next to Vox when Val threw the glass is also visible in the background (on the left, behind Val) in the scene where Vel is watching the news on her phone:

After which Val immediately turns around and goes to sit on the couch to turn the TV on instead so he can see better. And when it switches to Vox's camera, there's a clear shot of the couches/table as well:

When their song in the finale starts, Vox passes these monitors, which are the same ones as in the first scene with Vox and Val (plus the little photo):

Then they're in front of the couch Vel and Vox were sitting on:

And then you can see the back of Val's couch when Velvette is filming the dancing.

And in her phone screen, you can see barstools in the background, which is probably where Velvette was sitting when she showed Val the news on her phone?

Also she was filming for 10 minutes,

And then remember that uh... weapons closet that Val gets guns out of? You can see it in the background when Val and Vox are singing (just to the right of Vox).

All of this is just to say the Vees 100% always hang out in this space, and it's adorable. It's their hangout space. I was always thinking it's a lobby/living room of some kind, but I've seen people refer to it as Val's room, and you know what? It's amazing either way because either Velvette and Vox both adore Val enough to have all his posters covering their common area wall, OR they have designated Val's room as their hangout spot, and he's just chill with it 😭

Bonus: look at how Velvette looks at her boys when they go off dancing:

These three are top tier polycule material and you cannot convince me otherwise.

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triona-tribblescore · 16 days

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Started making Angel's birthday art, had a breakdown, Bon appetite! His birthdays before he joined the hotel probably weren't the best :<

#ok last post of the night!#(ignore that im posting this a day late I posted on time everywhere else I just...forgot about tumblr for a sec TwT)#Idk I just think that before he had the hotel and husk his birthdays would be spend closer to val and thinking more about molly :(#no not good times #BUT ITS OK NOW CAUSE CAUSE HES HAPPY AND HAS HIS CAT BOYFRIEND TO HOLD HIM AND MOLLY CAN CELEBRATE WITH PENTIOUS AND AND AHHHH <333 #Anyway happy birthday to my fav darling spider <3 #MWAH #angel dust #angel dust fanart #hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel fanart #angel dust birthday #hazbin hotel angel dust #tribbleart #<3

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galoogamelady · 1 year

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#some shitass things I forgot to post here #and some memes that I'm not gonna post on twitter because normal people follow me there #so you guys can enjoy #GTA Online #OC #Buttons #Corall #Val #wafflii #galoodle

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val-of-the-north · 2 months

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Not truly an original observation, but one of the characters displayed in the trailers seems to have a resemblance to a figure seen in a few depictions found in Liurnia of the Lakes... could be some good Raya Lucaria/Caria lore for us...