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turtle-paced · 2 days
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What do you think is the plans with Aegon when it comes to his actual house name if he gets the throne. Do Varys and Illyrio plan to eventually reveal that he is a Blackfyre or do they still pretend that he is indeed Aegon VI and go for a Targaryen restoration?
Because if it is the former, I can certainly imagine a lot of houses getting enraged (especially the Martell’s), but if it’s the former then what is the point of Aegon being a Blackfyre and not just a random kid that has the looks?
First we have to distinguish between Varys and Illyrio here. I don't think Varys is any sort of true believer Blackfyre loyalist. I think it's like he told Kevan and he wants to create an ideal king. So to him, it really doesn't matter if his candidate is born a Blackfyre, a Targaryen, or Joe Rando.
I'd also be surprised if Illyrio was a true believer Blackfyre loyalist - I suspect he's in this plan to gain a kingdom for his biological son.
But this means that neither Varys nor Illyrio particularly care about the Blackfyre cause itself. They are using the Blackfyres. And I suspect their angle, when they went to recruit the Golden Company, was to tell them the point wasn't to rub it in everyone's faces, the point was to win.
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wodania · 19 days
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stole this and drew it with asoiaf characters
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allovesthings · 7 days
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I will never get over the fact that 9 years old Arya freaking Stark actually heard accidentally information she wasn't supposed to hear from Varys: the master of whispers. The literal master of spy was kinda outspyed by a 9 year old being what is essentially a little bird.
And same thing with Bolton. Arya Stark was right here. He had her and the signs were here if he had just taken any interest in the Smallfolks he had in captivity and in his service.
I don't know which is funnier though. That Varys still doesn't know his conversation with Illyrio was overheard or that Bolton realized it was Arya after the fact (probably...unclear).
I love that little girl so much.
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glussy · 6 months
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when Tyrion comes into Varys room to fuck Shae and instead is met with Varys in full drag with a curly brown wig, dress, and beat face and saying "Is something amiss?" like asoiaf is a comedy
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stormborns · 8 months
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GAME OF THRONES 1.09, Baelor
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warsofasoiaf · 17 days
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We know that Varys tried to convince Aerys to keep the gates closed the Lannister army and that Pycelle encouraged Aerys to open them wide. That indicates that they were both present in KL during the final days of the Rebellion. My question is this, do you think once the doors were open and the Lions started sacking the city, that both the master of Whispers and Grand Maester simply ‘vanished’ until the dust had settled?
I believe Pycelle probably went to his apartments, barricaded the door, and waited until Lannister troops came to escort him safely to Tywin's forces. The Grand Maester, as a position, benefits from "maester neutrality," so that does assist him in not being seen as an Aerys loyalist, even if Northern troops happened to get to him first.
Varys though, almost certainly disappeared into the labyrinth of secret passages honeycombing the Red Keep to ensure the safety of his person. He perceived that he would have probably been killed in the sack. and so he'd look for a place no one knew until he could arrange to surrender himself to Robert. Robert's legendary status as those who pardoned his former foes probably worked in Varys's favor there.
Thanks for the question, Anon.
SomethingLikeALawyer, Hand of the King
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ludcake · 7 months
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tbh i think it's so funny that the hotd changes are often commented as like, "team black is full of the bad gay gender bitches girlbossing their way into the patriarchal feudal system" because..... that's literally exactly what team Young Griff is in the main books everyone there is gay, every prospective member is gay, they're all the baddest bitches in westeros while everyone else is stuck with their gender roles
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baelorbreakbeds · 1 year
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there needs to be a workplace comedy series about roberts small council pre-agot like stannis jon arryn renly littlefinger varys and barristan all in the same room regularly???
stannis being a joyless asshole trying to ban*spins wheel*high fives
littlefinger scheming against jon arryn and almost being caught out every episode
renly being a useless nepo baby and his only opinion being whatever will piss stannis off the most
robert as a recurring comedy relief character
varys being obviously evil and villain monologuing every 3 seconds but nobody noticing
barristan constantly staring into the camera like hes on the office
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longclawshilt · 8 months
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Thinking about poor, doomed Young Griff and how it’s not even important if he is or isn’t Rhaegar’s real son. Because what makes him a fake goes beyond blood - it’s really down to intent and experience. He’s a poor rich man’s Aegon V, but like without the organic hero’s journey.
He’s a lab experiment pretty much. However well intentioned he is, there isn’t much indication that his journey has been authentic. Varys and Illyrio are trying to recreate Aegon V with a fake...literally down to the “let’s hide his hair” scheme. They even gave the boy Aegon’s freaking name (it’s a king’s name after all so I can’t blame them). But they missed like the biggest, most important lesson of all. Aegon V CHOSE to go out. HE made himself, no one else did. His journey was organic as it was derived out of his own autonomous decisions, not manufactured down to the smallest detail (does YG really know what it means to starve and be homeless and hunted?). And there was no promise of a reward (I.e., kingship). Egg didn’t know that he’d be king and even after his dad rose to the throne, there were a ton of people ahead of him. FFS he’s called Aegon the Unlikely. Bro just woke up one day and was like “ay wouldn’t it be nice to actually experience this realm from the perspective of a disenfranchised person?”
Meanwhile, our poor Young Griff is being made to go through all this with the expectation that it’s all going to pay off when he becomes king. BUT (big but!), who’s to say that he actually gets it? Like does he really get why he needs to see how this horrible feudalistic society preys on the smallfolk and makes corpses out of them? Wait, does he even know or recognize that the system needs changing? Like did Varys and Illyrio just tell him “people poor” and leave it at that? Why are they poor Young Griff? How did they get there?! Do Varys and Illyrio even get it? Do they understand that Aegon V was a radical change maker?
How hollow is it that it’s not Young Griff making the conscious decision to actually try and see how his subjects live. He’s not making the conscious decision to be a change maker, no matter what Varys and Illyrio say. People in this fandom will talk about how Young Griff will be the perfect king but…perfect for whom? In what way? In a series that critiques this entire system, what about YG screams that he’s going to actually tackle some of the systemic issues that need tackling - the systemic issues that Aegon V tried to tackle after organically going through his own journey?
WELLLLL….isn’t it cool that Jon and Dany are the true heirs to Aegon V’s legacy not because of blood, but because they actually get to the heart of Aegon V’s journey? Say what you want about them but they are radical as it gets (Jon at the Wall and Dany all over Slaver’s Bay). No one manufactured them. No one told them they had to care about people. No one told them they had to do this lab experiment to become king/queen. They actually did their own thing, while themselves being disenfranchised (GRRM identifies both as outsiders). And without the expectation of a reward (like Jon is literally told that his entire life will basically amount to nothing).
And it’s even better that they were unlikely. Young Griff is meant to happen - well someone is pulling the strings to make sure he works. He’s taking the role of someone who was always meant to be king - for Rhaegar’s son was meant to be king. But Jon and Dany are actually following the Aegon V blueprint because they weren’t meant to happen. Jon is a second son who is presumably a bastard with a contentious claim, and Dany is a daughter who was never meant to survive being sold off to slavery let alone rise to queenship. Neither one of them was meant to be on the throne. No one told them to do the things they did. No one took them and placed them in the positions they’re in. They rose to the occasion by themselves and made changes by their own volition - just as it was with Aegon V. And what makes it even better is that just as Aegon V was chosen to be king, so were Jon and Dany (Jon was literally elected into office and basically won over the wildlings while Dany was dubbed “mhysa” because of her actions in Slaver’s Bay).
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knightsickness · 8 months
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vv interested in varys’ thoughts on agot lannistwins because he seems to both consider them very stupid and give them an absurd amount of credit on the scheming against robert front. he fully knows about the incest and thinks that the fact they botched killing bran is both obvious and embarrassing but then turns around and talks about how if not for ned they would have gotten robert killed in the hand’s tourney through reverse psychology alone. v i’m going to be so real with you all their killing robert schemes were borderline nonsensical and only vindicated by the fact one of them worked
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fromtheseventhhell · 1 month
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High-key want Arya and Varys to cross paths again at some point, like I need Varys to know that he was spied on by a 9-year-old Arya and that his plans could've potentially been foiled by her
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Do you think that the baby swap actually happened? I prefer the theory that the baby swap did not actually happen, and that Aegon is the son of Illyrio and Sera (posited as a female-line Blackyre) - the baby swap does not explain why Elia would choose to protect the swapped baby with her life while leaving Rhaenys alone, nor Illyrio’s extreme fondness for the boy.
For almost a decade now, I've been an advocate of the double-swap theory, which I think does the best job of reconciling the actions of both Varys and Illyrio.
That being said, I think there are two perfectly cromulent explanations for Elia's actions in this theory: the first possibility is that Elia didn't realize that a baby swap happened very shortly before her death, and the second is that she did know, and that (just like Gilly in AFFC/ADWD) she was willing to endure suffering in order to ensure that her son would live.
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daenystheedreamer · 3 months
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American politics is worse than Westeros politics tbh
yeah cos its real life 💔 equal amount of crime i think. anyway this ask led me down a path to making this venn diagram:
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frying-panties · 3 months
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Tea time Varys and Petyr ☕
This, hands down, must be the most complicated background I have attempted so far and I'm genuinely happy with this. everyday, I try something new and I see myself succeeding. I do see myself failing, too. But it doesn't feel as much of a failure because I have my priorities within the skills I build and the fun I have.
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stormborns · 4 months
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Three great men sit in a room - a king, a priest, and a rich man. Between them stands a common sellsword. Each great man bids the sellsword kill the other two. Who lives, who dies?  Depends on the sellsword.  Does it? He has neither crown nor gold nor favor with the gods. He has a sword, the power of life and death.  But if it’s the swordsmen who rule, why do we pretend kings hold all the power?
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adarkandmagicalforest · 2 months
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