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oodlenoodleroodle · 6 months

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Okay so pickled herring is a thing in Finland and I really like it. It comes in jars and in different sort of situations, like in seasoned plain brine, in mustard brine, etc.

Now obvs. I don't eat pickled herring anymore because vegan, and it's a bit of a bummer because like, this is part of my culture, food is a big part of culture and, by extension, identity.

Today I had vegan pickled herring-like stuff that is made out of eggplant. Like if you like mustard herring you would like this, it's just a super-good fishy and mustardy combination. And I was just so happy and will be buying this stuff in the future.

So if you ever see anyone asking "why do vegans have to make vegan versions of nonvegan things" this is the reason. Food is a crucial part of culture and everyone should have ways to connect with their food culture regardless of what sort of dietary restrictions they have, voluntary or involuntary.

Food innovations that enable people with food restrictions to take part are good and worthwhile.

And hey, if you are in Finland and you like sinappisilli, try the Kalavale eggplant product. It's good and adds some extra vegetable in your diet :)

#to me the suffering of fish is more important than my food culture identity bummers #but its nice that they dont have to be mutually exclusive.#and i will really happily support and promote people who work to make these kinds of products accessible.#also score! a new vegetable has entered the rotation! i dont eat eggplant in anything else as of yet.#i am just so excited about vegetables these days. like i get to try my pickled beets thing tomorrow and im so excited! :D #and they dont always work out - last weekend we had jerusalem artichoke for the first time and didnt really care for it.#which felt like a betrayal because so many people praise it to high heaven.

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veganbeane · 4 years

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Vegan Ham Sandwich

Yves veggie ham

white bread

lettuce

tomato

pickle

mustard

vegenaise

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librarycards · 3 years

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don't answer this if it's in any way upsetting or triggering! but how do you balance being vegan with ED recovery? I'm a vegetarian because of a combination of ethical and restriction reasons, newly in recovery, but with an eventual goal of veganism for ethical reasons when it is feasible for my personal situation. It seems hard to balance it all!

hey anon! i’m really glad you felt safe to ask me this, and my DMs are always open (though perhaps intermittently attended to) to speak about this further. as it happens, your ask reminded me of a vegan burger place i ordered from a couple weeks ago - it’s local, so no names publicly, but suffice it to say, *delicious.* vegan burger with “bacon”, topped w/ fixings + extra pickles, with “ranch” + house-made BBQ on top. Grilled bun. i can’t recommend it highly enough!

anyways. my answer to this is twofold, and to be taken with a mountain of salt, as i can only speak for my own experience and can’t account for where your head / body are at atm!

(obvious tw for below the cut) (if you r /// b this i’ll feed you to my cat and call it ethics)

the first part of my answer is a disclaimer. by no metric, apart from the fact that i am 1) Aware of the Problem™ and 2) no (longer) in any kind of formalized treatment program, could i or anyone else honestly consider me ‘in recovery.’ the way i live is not healthy, and i wouldn’t recommend it to anyone. there has never been a point in my life in which i’ve entered “recovery proper” (whether that’s the hegemonic definition of it or the way i’d operationally define it). as such, the advice i’m giving here is speculative, and also based in a practice of plant-based living whose core, for me, is not grounded in restriction.

ok, got that out of the way.

so, i went vegetarian when i was 10, long before This Stuff entered my life, other disordered stuff notwithstanding. i went vegan In The Midst Of It, partly because, well, no time like the time you’re barely eating anyway to choose a lifestyle requiring elimination. that being said, this view of veganism is fundamentally wrongheaded, and is precisely the reason that so much veganism either descends into or is borne of the desire for thinness/purity/insert comparable adjective here.

vegetarianism and veganism, i think, shouldn’t be conceptualized as health movements or diets at all. they’re ethical/political stances whose health effects are as varied as their practitioners. particularly with veganism, the choice not to eat animals/animal products is only one part of a larger puzzle that involves consciousness around what materials we wear, what labor conditions we partake in in doing so, what beauty products we use and on who or what they’ve been tested, and myriad other things. they influence our pet-rearing decisions. they oftentimes inconvenience us in ways that the restrictive eater (or, at least, this one) finds unpleasant: i receive the vegan dressing, the soy milk, the standard-sugar candy, because no one’s bothered with a vegan version of the diet bullshit they’re peddling to other people. ask yourself: are you willing to make that swap? that is, are you eating for a political reason, rather than a self-destructive one?

these kinds of critical questions, as well as those about the other inconveniences/sacrifices you’re willing to make, the ones that probably annoy you and have nothing to do with food, are great barometers for where your head’s at regarding food and veganism. another one is to test limit cases, even ones that would probably never happen in real life: would you eat a plate of deep fried tofu over white chicken breast? french fries over egg whites? when i’m in the mood for some internal critique, i ask myself these questions; each time, i arrive at the same conclusion: yeah, i’d pick the vegan “junk food.” i’d do it with a mountain of expletives, but i’d do it.

as for your situation right now, unsurprisingly, i don’t recommend you go vegan when you’re just starting the recovery process! what i do suggest is to start thinking now about what vegan food -- all sorts of food, ‘healthy’ and otherwise –– you like. try out some new stuff you see at the store, there’s such a proliferation of new vegan stuff rn, even at mainstream stores! it’s magical! figure out the standard vegan recovery food (peanut butter being one, though the stuff’s ubiquitous across circles for obvious reasons) you like, and what you don’t like. experiment with one or two vegan meals a week, and track how you feel afterward. if you use up your nonvegan snacks and want to replace with a vegan one, do it –– you shouldn’t go vegan all at once, especially in your situation, but really that’s what i tell everyone. let it be a natural process of replacement, not a clean sweep. if food’s too much to think about right now, try out vegan beauty products, etc. see about shopping local, especially for produce, but also for milk and eggs.

UGH ok i promised myself i wouldn’t write a novel in response to this but HERE WE ARE. obviously this is a concept very near&dear&fraught to me, and one with which many people disagree. but tl;dr veganism is a possibility for your future, provided it’s done slowly and with attendance, more than anything else, to its political implications, with food not as its centerpiece, and with frequent & relentless internal examination. and, like, oreos.

#ask #dnnn rrr. bb #ed m ///#food m ///#ask for further tags #but if anything ed/food rest. talk triggers you #proceed w caution #i #Anonymous

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acti-veg · 5 years

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nothing pisses me off more than vegan things being the same price or more expensive than the nonvegan alternative when I know it cost them less to make it. I understand meat alternatives being an extra buck or two but Starbucks makes you pay 70 cents for soy but they don't take anything off for removing the whip and everything else dairy and you could go to a restaurant and order a burger with no meat or cheese, so it's j lettuce in a bun, and I promise you they'll charge you for a whole burger

I know what you mean, pricing isn’t often determined by production cost to be honest though, they charge what consumers will pay for it. If they know you’ll pay £3 for a coffee they’ll charge you £3, even if the vegan version of whatever you’re getting costs less. It used to be that faux meat stuff was almost always more expensive, as the market becomes more saturated with products the prices are coming down a lot, and we can expect to see that to continue. Faux meat stuff is similarly priced to meat where I am now, and plant milks are often cheaper.

#ask #vegan #vegan problems

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veganbeane · 4 years

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