#viv says things

[phddyke]

Hazbin Hotel is actually healing my inner ex-Christian so hard.

No joke, I nearly started cheering when Lute called Charlie and Vaggie’s love “vile and blasphemous” (and then burst out laughing when Adam immediately followed it up with “Hot as fuck though”). I know that may sound weird considering that I am, in fact, a lesbian, but here me out:

Seeing Christians being explicitly homophobic onscreen? It validates me. It makes me think “Oh yeah, I’m not crazy, Christians are that hateful!” And, call me crazy, but I think homophobia being tied in with villainy is a good thing. Neither Adam or Lute are supposed to be good people; they are very obviously the villain, and that establishes their behavior as bad. Someone on Twitter said that Lute gave them religious fanatic vibes and I couldn’t agree more.

And here’s the thing, too: it’s explicit homophobia, not some dumb metaphor. There’s no way to take it as anything else. And I really need that. I need to see Christians being explicitly homophobic onscreen in the same way that other people need and create worlds where homophobia doesn’t exist.

But me? I want my pain and suffering acknowledged. I want the harm that Christianity does acknowledged. Homophobia is real and the religious kind doubly so. I related to Vaggie so much in that episode; I felt her trepidation about going back to Heaven. Felt like a good metaphor for escaping a fundamentalist church only to be forced to visit again.

And Viv is not afraid to explicitly point this out and criticize them. Like, yes! Say it! They are hypocrites! They don’t care about people being better, they only care about punishment! They maimed one of their own and left her to die because she spared a child! They’re homophobic freaks! They would never see the good that Angel does and how he’s improved and is wonderful, they only see that he’s a drug addict and a sex worker and think he’s worthless for that even though Jesus broke bread with sex workers and people considered the dregs of society. (And of course Angel is gay on top of that.)

And another thing: not only did the Adam line make me laugh, but the second homophobic Lute line about “he blew his shot like the cocks in his mouth” cracked me up too. It reminded me of the pilot where Katie Killjoy said “I don’t touch the gays” to Charlie, which is a line that made me laugh for 4+ years straight. When I told my brother that was the funniest homophobia I’d ever heard in media, he very wisely said, “All homophobia is funny if you think about it.” And you know what? He’s right. It is funny, because it’s so fundamentally goddamn stupid, so let’s give characters ridiculous lines so everyone can laugh at how idiotic they and their beliefs sound.

#i actually have no issue if sinners go to hell for being gay #it’s not like viv is saying that’s a good thing #if anything she’s showing how utterly deranged that is and the very serious consequences #hazbin hotel #tw homophobia #hazbin hotel spoilers #lute #adam #charlie morningstar #vaggie #hazbin lute #hazbin adam #hazbin charlie #hazbin vaggie #angel dust #hazbin angel dust #hazbin hotel lute #hazbin hotel adam #hazbin hotel charlie #hazbin hotel vaggie #hazbin hotel angel dust #hellaverse #vivziepop #thanks for seeing and rescuing my inner queer ex-Catholic kid #also i wanna get ‘vile and blasphemous’ tattooed #i may even work it into my wedding vows #like youre damn right im vile and blasphemous bitch now go fuck yourself<3 #katie killjoy

[luck-of-the-drawings]

THIS THING IS SCUUUFFED AS HELL & ITS ALSO THE BEST THING I HAVE ANIMATED THUS FAR. IM SO IN LOVE WITH EMIZEL. JUST WISH I GAVE HIM MORE STUPID TATTOOS. NEXT TIME THO. NEXT TIME. I ALSO LOVE VEX&VIV SOOOO MUCH. charlies flavor of Deranged is my FAVORITE!!

#cw gore #jrwi fanart #jrwi show #jrwi suckening #jrwi suckening spoilers #ACTULY FINISHED THIS A WHILE AGO. kept going back n forth between trying to work on it more or call it done #in the end i chose DONE!! i worked on this for a full day n a half. NO idea what possesed me but it is NOT happenin again anytime soon #i shall do better NEXT TIME!! in the meantime tho OH MY GOOOOOD WHO WANTS TO SCREAM ABT THE SUCKENING WITH ME #THE FUCKINNN THE FUCKIN THING WITH VEX N VIV BEING THE SHADOW LEADERS OF THE FANGS/DEMONS #OH MMYY GOOOODDD THATS THEIR LIL MEAT GENERATOR... THTS SO FUCKED UP AND COOL UUUGHHH I LOVE THEM... #THEIR FLAVORE IS SO WONDERFUL. I LOOOVE HOW SILLY THEY ARE. MAKING PUNS WHILE PULLIN A SCREAMING VICTIM APART #vex n his lil fashiony art workshop and viv n her sterile n clean doctors office #i bet she doesnt even HAVE a medical liscense. it would be funny if vex did tho. could u imagine #they main MEDIC in tf2 together. viv is the battlemedic while vex only pocket medics for her. COULD U IMAGINE #guh i could go on abt these two forever n ever n ever i LOVE THEMM i gotta draw em more.... #OH ALSO before i run outa room. i should say. i took inspiration from a tf2 animation called POOTIS ENGAGED #the animator. Ceno0. uses black bars in the action sequences in SUCH A COOL WAYYY everytime i watch that video i feel inspired #oneday ill make more complex fight scenes... one day.... #in the meantime UGHHH I LOVE THE SUCKENING SO MUUUCH CAN I JUST FUCKIN SAAAYY THAT I THINK EMIZEL IS A SMART COOKIE!! #THESE PPL FUCKING FEAR HIM NOW!!! 'SHAMIA SHAMI' IS NOW THEIR MORTAL ENEMY!! POWERFUL ILLUSIONIST. CANT DIE. #THAT PART AT THE END THERE WHERE HE FUCKIN. KILLS HIMSELF INFRONTA THEM. THATS SO AWESOME. THATS SO METAL. AND THEN HE COMES BACK!! #I WATCHED EP 7 ASWELL BUT I WONT SPOIL IT HERE. BUT OMYGOD. EMIZEL IS SO COOL AND CAPABLE N SMART N FUNNY N UGHHHHHH I LOVE HIMMMMM #OKAY THATS MY RAMBLE FOR THE DAY THANKYOU FOR READING. I READ ALL TAGS SO YOU SHOULD RAMBLE TOO. IF YOU WANT. IF YOU CAN.

[chaifootsteps]

Viv dickriders: omg Chai is a dangerous and horrible person, who indoctrinates minors into hating HH for no reason. We must protect people from him.

Meanwhile, you: *creates a safe space and community where people can not only vent about Hellaverse and its fandom/creator, but also share their ideas/headcanons/fanfiction and more serious personal stories like a boss*

Aww, thanks Anon. <3 My track record's not perfect, but I try my best! Glad to have you guys here!

#Anonymous #nice things people say #viv stuff #actual blog post

[prince-liest]

Terrified by missionary anon here and oh my god I LOVE the way you reworked the ending of the last chapter!!! It had me squealing!! I was just a tiny bitty sceptical at first but at this point I can safely say I trust u with my life. Which makes sense considering ur occupation but u know what I mean

Also!!! I had a shower thought and I doubt there’s a better person to ask than you because your descriptions are always spot on. I think we can all agree that Vox smells good, but I was wondering what do you think Alastor smells like? 🧐 I vote for that rancid smell of rotten meat, with a hint of lacquer, like an antique shop, very coffin-esque. But I rly want to hear ur thoughts on this!!!

Ayyy, I'm so glad that you liked it! >:D I feel like a couple of years ago I would have been a lot more hesitant to just change my mind like this on something (and admittedly I did feel bad about it initially this time) but I've gotten to the point where I'm pretty comfortable going, "Bro, listen - bro, just trust me." about my own writing, ehehe. I'm pleased it's working out! >:)

Also, you've made a terrible mistake in asking me this question because I've recently become very interested in fragrances but I'm also a gourmand snob and have a very sensitive nose when it comes to food products and cannot stand the smell of things rotting, so I would just categorically refuse to imagine that any character I enjoy smells like rotting meat, klxjchfg.

Anyway, if I had to pick a style of fragrance or cologne for him for when he was alive, I feel like he'd go for something woody but warm. Those kinds of scents tend to be masculine and have a nature-y freshness to them that a guy who buries bodies in the woods would probably get a kick out of. And then add something like amber and musk to undercut the scent to make it feel warmer in a way that I think makes people read the wearer as a safer and more comforting presence, which is delightfully misleading.

As for what he'd wear in hell... Tsokovat's Inexcusable Evil, lmfao, no contest. The name is perfect, he'd think it was hilarious, and I've seen so many people say that it genuinely just smells unpleasantly like dousing yourself in fucking blood. Most people's reviews for this stuff call it really uncomfortable but compelling. Tell me Alastor would not think that this wouldn't be the most amusing perfume ever to force on the people in his presence.

#ask #personal #terrified of missionary anon #t #I feel the same way about the rotting meat as the yellow teeth thing tbh #it does not read to me as “this guy doesn't brush his teeth” it reads to me as “this is demonform aesthetic same as the MAGENTA HAIR” #“which he definitely does NOT dye that color” #but I'm also someone who does not enjoy “gross” humor so #hazbin hotel #alastor #ETA: #me about the aroace thing: here's why it really is canon and why I care about that #me about the fact that the tooth color and that viv apparently says it's a hygeine thing: AND HERE WE HAVE A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE #OF ME IGNORING THE SHIT OUT OF WORD OF GOD lmaooooo

[sweetpumpkinmouse]

I keep seeing my mutuals talk about Helluva Boss, Hazbin Hotel, and Vivziepop, hereself.

And all I’m gonna say is this: Viv is stuck in the early 2000s and doesn’t want to leave.

Not only with her writing and character designs, but how she behaves on Twitter.

#helluva boss #hazbin hotel #vivziepop #i have more to say #especially with a *certain* situation involving a certain red deer #but I need to put my thoughts in order #I am exhausted #if you are a fan of HB or HH #I don’t hate you at all #You are allowed to enjoy things while also being critical of the writing and the creator’s actions #Are there people who pile on Viv for no reason? #Yes #BUT #That doesn’t mean that she’s above ACTUAL VALID CRITICISM #that’s it

[squishosaur]

um ocs for the dream vn playable only in my mind...

#'but lys!' i hear you say 'what happened to your thing abt practicing more diverse features.. 6 of these ppl have the same hair & face type' #some of these are all the same person tht's all next question. i'd elaborate but the tags wld b a weird place to do that bc no one would se #there are definitely more but i have been drawing these guys all day and ran out of room dndndns #my ocs #my art :> #digital art #eeerm i have to name them all later djdjjds #oc: mysterie (grape) #oc: chrysalis (blue) #oc: aurela (ruby) #oc: summer (tangerine) #oc: viv (lime) #oc: carlo #oc: amanda #yaaay finished naming!!

[sunset-mp4]

And what especially sucks is that Viv says she's fine with people shipping Alastor with other people. Like...

Why do people treat AroAce people do different???

Like, when I got into my first and last relationship {before I realized I was aromantic}, my family would make jokes of me and the person not being allowed in the same room with the door closed, make kissing jokes {even though I would literally try to flee from CHEEK KISSES} and so many things

And like. I can't help but project onto AroAce characters????

Also, a bit unrelated because my brain is all over the place, but I saw a comment on TikTok that was like "in the episode, Alastor used the AroAce version of 'your daughter calls me daddy too'" and then I scrolled and the rest of the comments were people fighting

Like

If you wanna ship Alastor with someone... QUEER PLATONIC RELATIONSHIPS EXIST- {I think that's the right term????? Idk I just woke up again.} Like. None of the romance. None of the sex. Just two people that are in a platonic relationship. {But then there would be people that see it and then go "oh they're just besties! Time to ship the AroAce character with people"}

{also I saw like this argument somewhere on this app between two people over queer platonic relationships, one person saying they're not real and the other person pointing out that they are and stuff.}

Anyway, I've never understood why people just. Keep shipping AroAce characters with people. It's like they took the words of AroAce people {the "some of us can still date and sex" words when someone goes "uhm you can't be AroAce because [insert sex or relationship]"} because it's like. They're using things that would be like "we're also AroAce" just to EXCLUDE SEX AND ROMANCE REPULSED AROACE PEOPLE FROM EXISTING IN FICTION

Like. It just. Never makes sense to me. People talk about erasing identities of other queer characters but the moment that they're AroAce they begin going "oh it's fine" like. What's the different between shipping an AroAce character with someone and shipping a gay character with the opposite gender????

Hold on my brain just tried to go to a different topic with genders {specifically "if heterosexual is 'attraction to the opposite gender' would that make agenders only attracted to Omnigender/Pangender?" And I have no idea why. Probably because I JSUT woke up from a nap}

Back to the rant, it just... Why can't AroAce characters in media exist in peace??? It's like people see canonical AroAce characters and make it a CHALLENGE to ship them with as many people as possible.

YES!

say it with me now: Aroace people are a part of the community and deserve equal representation in media too! aroace people should not be excluded or have their representation have leeway and wiggle room to fit the conformities of society aroace people deserve to be seen!

#sunset asks #aroace #I mean I get viv saying shes okay with people shipping alastor- because you can't tell people not to ship things. #shipping just happens it's inevitable even though sometimes its disheartening or sucks. #and sometimes it trashes representation. #but at the same time it also sucks to see her not do anything about this #I'm not to bothered by it though- I don't really care about viv too much and I don't want too #I just like demon show and want to see my silly guy get seen and get seen myself.

[cloudysfluffs]

Don’t listen to haters, everything ever spread about Vivzie was disproven. Your art is cute.

LMAOOOOOOOO NO IT WASNT????????!!??!?!?

#WEIRD take man #first of all there are so many accusations about viv this is so unspecefic #also. no they havent?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? ive seen so much proof. i see more every single day #i mean thank you. for the compliment. #but being critical about media (even media you enjoy) is a good thing. #its important to unpack how the creators beliefs influence the work they produce #disc horse #this is the first thing i saw when i woke up today and it baffled me so much that i couldnt sleep more like i planned lol #anyway. im not saying anyone cant enjoy the show(s). obviously i do A LITTLE if im making fanart #im not saying you have to drop a media if its creators are problematic. in facf i dont like that take #just remember you are not immune to propaganda and vivzies rac/ist/anti/semetic opinions are very much influencing these characters writing #and things like her (SELF ADMITTED) ra/pe fet/ish arent helping. #sorry. this is a rant ive been wanting to say for a while bur have never got to lol #im just so confhsed by what this person even meant??? some of the bad shit shes done is IN THE SHOW. its in there #you can see it. with your eyes . help #anyway again this is literally the first thing i saw when i woke up LMAO if i completely misinterpreted this ask lemme knkw #the assumption that ive just taken the word of a few ''haters'' and havent done my own research into this topic is kind of insulting #what did you expect me to say....??? did you think id just be like 'oh ok :3' ans blindly retract all negative statements

[wawhii]

Being able to say "this is fucking stupid" and move on from something on the internet has been instrumental, but oh my god it's still such a pain in the ass to think about it nonstop for the next 20 minutes

#Vent tw #I kind of don't want to say what this was about because It's A Show That People Get Death Threats Over #And frankly I already feel guilty about liking it even though I'm highly critical (HIGHLY CRITICAL.) of it #But like oh my actual fucking god #YES some shows should not be watched in the first place. Some of them undeniably suck!! What the creators have done is bad!! #Shit like AoT is propaganda and South Park and Family Guy reduce your capacity for kindness. So do similar things. #But we also A) can't judge everyone who watches them because there ARE good apples #And B) FICTIVES FROM DOGSHIT SOURCES ARE FINE PEOPLE 90% OF THE TIME!!!!!! **SHUT UP!!!!!!!** #One side of this argument needs to get some fucking media literacy and criticality #And the other side need to stop sucking Viv's dick and get their proshipper heads out of their proshipper asses.

[jaybybyby]

Also Viv once said in regards of another friend to quote “I could destroy her” in her rant that she thinks said friend was talking shit about her behind her back

that lines up with her paranoia but i also don't really think it's up there with all the other shit she's done. given the Specific Context of them being friends and her saying this about someone who she had still considered a friend at the time it's bad but also if someone talked shit about me behind my back i'd be going to my friends like i can beat this guys' ass at 3 am behind a denny's so it's not the worst thing in the world i think

#asks #vivziepop neg #vivziepop critical #again the context of them being friends while she said that does skew it a lot. like i'd only say it while ranting about people who i cut #off because of them hurting me but knowing about viv's paranoia changes things :/

[showtoonzfan]

Reminder to all the Helluva fans who think that we’re being “impatient” and that Millie will get her big epic moment to shine, just know that from what we’ve seen, all Viv and Adam could come up with regarding her is that she apparently feels like she’s holding Moxxie back. That’s it. So not only is it a character insecurity that makes no sense since she’s done nothing but help Moxxie and be the muscle, but it’s once again….attached to Moxxie, and not her as a character on her own. Bravo Viv. 💀

#yes I’m talking about the leaks #I’m sorry I’m still not over this #how Viv and the fandom flex about Millie’s character and how Viv can just sit there and say that Millie’s arc is coming and that she has- #-other things to her but judging by the leaks THIS is what she could come up with??? and she and Adam have the nerve to say that we’re— #ignoring the character before us? yeah okay LMAO #you could have given her so much more #like maybe being rough is all she knows #or maybe she has to learn to fight her own way and not take her parent’s shit #give her fucking quirks and flaws #but nah everything she does is attached to Moxxie and when she’s not she’s just a plot device to fight #vivziepop critical #spindlehorse critical #helluva boss critical #helluva boss criticism #helluva critical #helluva boss Millie #helluva boss critique

[chaifootsteps]

I think the most annoying thing about this, is that people still do support you but can't say that publicly for fear of being taken down as well.

Sure they still may not agree with your ships and stances on things, but they know you have dirt on Viv that no one else has. And that you've given victims a platform to be safe.

If you had locked down or deleted your account, you would've looked sus as fuck. But you didn't. You owned up to things.

That's why I'm still supporting you from the shadows.

If you ever harmed an actual minor or animal though.... different story. But furries/scalies/monsterfucking is different.

You're the man, Chai.

And you know something? That's just fine with me. If people want to support or just keep an eye on me, but to do it like this?

I'm completely okay with that. It's not a popularity contest, it's about accountability and truth.

(Also, no worries about me hurting kids or animals. If I was inclined to do so, I wouldn't defend places like 4chan on the sole grounds that they come down with the force of God on real pedos and animal abusers.)

#Anonymous #nice things people say #viv stuff #actual blog post #image reply

[aparticularbandit]

Viv: I like Wanda. She has always been very nice to me. She brought my dog back to life, too, and was comforting when my mother died.

Also Viv: My mother's brainwaves were based on Wanda's brainwaves. As a result, I have a healthy fear that, no matter how reasonable and nice she may seem on the surface, she is hiding much more beneath the surface. Therefore, I also have that same healthy fear of her, as well.

Also also Viv: I must tell no one.

#musings #viv vision #bandit writes fic #december banditnanza 2023 #like - think what you will - viv's relationship with and to her mom is complicated #and i think it always will be #wanda says that viv's mom saved the world and that's true #wanda tells viv so much of what she saw in her vision of what the future would be #and it's meant as a comfort to her #but #knowing all of those things and knowing all of those complications of her mother don't change her lived in experience of her mother #or how those actions impacted her #a n y w a y

[animationismycomfort]

just unsubscribed from vivzie after realizing that these shows aren’t gonna go anywhere and they’re pretty horrible in terms of everything and I am UPSET about it

but other then that cheers mate🧃

#vivziepop #hopefully people rewrite them cause they deserve that #I’m not really upset like I thought I’d be #I’m jsut upset that I didn’t see it sooner #my stuffy stuff #idk just wanted to announce that I’m free #🎶raise a glass to freeedom🎶🧃 #but yea feels pretty good honestly might look up rewrites for this sh-t cause wtf #now I can enjoy other things that a lot of people hate mostly because of the fandom instead of the creator #idk why I have a hard time realizing when something is bad that i previously worshipped #it’s called rose colored glasses unfortunately #and I SUFFER FROM IT #it just be like that tho #listen none of this means you can’t like it or still watch it #by all means go right ahead idc #I feel like I need to say that cause I know some people will take this the wrong way #funny thing is I was never really in the fandom or really that into the show if I’m honest I jsut wanted to give it a chance cause #youtube shows excite me #and I was subscribed to viv for a while so I basically saw helluva boss come to be #so I am and was a very bias person #I’m not ashamed to admit it #we are all bias of something or multiply things #it’s natural #at least I think it is #but whatever #that’s all I’m gonna say #if anybody wants to complain or point out things that suck about helluva boss #I’ll be here #in my corner with some hot cocoa

[thelovelybitten]

no thoughts, just the sonic rush ending and how we will never know what sonic gave to blaze

#otp: flaming winds #viv speaks #sonaze #sonic x blaze #sonic rush #like #my eight year old self thought it was a kiss so I SAY IT WAS A KISS #i'm 24 now... jesus christ my first ever ship has been w me for almost 2 decades #but WHAT WAS IT SEGA #I NEED A DETAILED ESSAY ON THE SONIC RUSH ENDING #like was it a pinkie promise? a bracelet? A HUG FOR GOD'S SAKE? #until further notice it was a kiss on the cheek and no one will be able to tell me otherwise #i'm foaming at the mouth i need a REMASTERED VERSION OF SONIC RUSH / SONIC RUSH ADVENTURE #and i need blaze in sonic prime u COWARDS #if i get sonaze crumbs ANYWHERE u know i'll be there #they have been my otp since i was a LIL BAB #first ever couple i ever shipped before i knew shipping was a thing #got into alot of fights with my sister growing up bc she was a sonamy stan... WE MADE POWERPOINTS TO FEND FOR OUR COUPLE #a good memory #like who doesn't love forbidden lovers who simply cannot work because the minute they cross over the universe begins to implode #but they also complete each other as polar opposites-- two sides of one coin #god they are so TRAGIC but the best sonic ship I SAID WHAT I SAID #anyways goes back to doodling goodbye #thank u for listening