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empressgeekt · 5 months
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headcanon - batman spawn growled as babies
made on mobile. Apologies in advance.
Okay, so I was watching cute baby clips on YouTube to make me laugh after a bad day. And I came to this clip with this cutest baby girl who growled at her brother when ever he made her upset instead of crying.
Now all I can think of is a baby damian growling at Talia, and here just being weirded out. Like "great he's trying to learn intimidation tactics young" but on the other hand he's too cute and helpless for it to really work they way damian wanted it too. Even Ra's was confused the first time Damian did it to him and it took a lot to stun the demon's head. The Al Guals had ni idea where this came from, and just chuck it up to damian being damian. Besides the boy grows out of it quickly.
The Helena does the same thing years later, and Damian remembers his mother mentioning that he did that. Then Alfred walks in and says that Bruce did the same thing as an infant. Selina finds the whole thing hilarious.
Even further in the future Warren and Mary mcginnis would wonder why their sons were so insistent that they were wild animals as babies.
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dailydccomics · 1 year
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finally someone other than a Flash is fucking around in the timeline Batman Beyond vol 6 #48
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Which Fic(s) Should I Post On Here Now
Ango (Dwelling in Peace): arrowfam; no capes au, canon divergent au; Oliver Queen, Connor Hawke, Sandra Moonday Hawke, Dinah Lance, Roy Harper
You're Just Like Quicksand: batfam; batman beyond au; Jason Todd, Terry McGinnis, Warren McGinnis, Mary McGinnis, Matt McGinnis, Bruce Wayne, Tim Drake, Bernard Dowd
Sweet Honey Bee: flashfam; ballet au, boarding school au; Thaddeus Thawne, Bart Allen, President Thawne, Meloni Thawne, Don Allen
The Flames That Burn The Brightest: titans (fab five); teachers au; Roy Harper, Donna Troy, Garth, Jade Nguyen, Lian Harper
Wild Eyes: batfam, batman rogues gallery; canon divergent au; Bane, Jason Todd, Bruce Wayne
Titans Academy (not like the comic I swear): titans; boarding school au; Roy Harper, Grant Emerson, Bart Allen, Garth, Donna Troy, Toni Monetti, Cody Driscoll
Phantom Grin: batfam; canon divergent au; Jason Todd, Bruce Wayne, Dick Grayson, Tim Drake, Cassandra Cain, Barbara Gordon
Five Stages of Mamma Mia: batfam; canon divergent au, mamma mia inspired au; Jason Todd, Jason Blood, Catherine Todd, Bruce Wayne, Willis Todd, ?Dick Grayson? (genuinely can't remember if he's in there but he might be)
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starryoak · 1 year
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One thing that I think is an understated sadness in the JLU episode “Epilogue”,  is that while it’s not explicitly stated, along with the reveal of who Terry is, that also tells you the likely reason Warren and Mary McGinnis divorced. After all, Warren, unbeknownst to him, had his own genetic material overwritten with Bruce’s, so that they could make another Batman eventually; it’s both an interesting explanation as to why Warren and Terry/Matt look nothing alike, but it… also kind of tells you that it’s likely the reason Mary and Warren divorced is because Warren believed Mary was cheating on him.
And, well, there wouldn’t be anything to disprove that! Genetically, Terry and Matt aren’t Warren’s children. But that basically means that Mary wouldn’t be able to explain or defend herself because, even if she had never slept with anyone in her life but Warren, she would always be seen as lying, because even an objective analysis would indicate she had to be.
It actually reminds me of a few cases like that in reality, not the idea of genetic information being overwritten, but a real life case of someone’s children not being their biological children despite objectively giving birth to them; Lydia Fairchild was a woman who, during a routine paternity test to enforce child support, seemingly was not the mother of her two children, while her ex-partner was the father, she was not! She stood accused of fraud as a result of this, and as she was pregnant with her third child at the time, the court ordered a witness present at the birth to collect blood samples and testify in court. When the DNA tests returned, she was apparently not the mother of the baby in question either, despite the obvious evidence to the contrary! Her defense attorney uncovered a similar case to Lydia’s where another mother had been found to not be the biological parent of her own children, it had been uncovered that this was due to a condition called chimerism; when fraternal twin zygotes merge into one singular being in the womb, this leads to the person being born with two distinct sets of DNA. When DNA from her parents were collected, Lydia’s children were found to be her parent’s grandchildren, and when DNA from a cervical swab was tested, what do you know? Her children’s biological parent was her own unborn twin!
Yes, this entire damn post was an excuse to share an interesting medical fact, if you were wondering.
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autumn-elwood · 1 year
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red-jenny · 10 months
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Batman: Beyond the White Knight, Sean Murphy, 2022-2023
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johannepetereric · 2 years
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The beginning scene is like. more foreshadowing the the “Terry is a Clone Thing” plot twist.
Yeah, yeah, it was actually Gordan syringing the dad to replace his DNA with Bruce’s and he boinked the mom to make Terry and Matt, blah, blah, blah—but I simplify to “Terry is his clone” just because
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lazlolullaby · 8 months
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Terry McGinnis gets yeeted to the past and becomes besties with Jason
he also has Ace and the shelter doesn't allow "scary dogs" inside.
So. He's a homeless teenager and his big dog. Who both have Batman level training. Possibly his suit, but it's funnier if he doesn't.
because I've seen Damien VS Terry a few times but I haven't seen our juvie children Jason and Terry interact much in fandom.
Mostly follows the DCAU timeline but you know. General fluid canon playground bashing action figures together because I love Terry and by dint of him being in the future he's a little estranged from the Bat Fam and that makes me sad.
first thing: Terry knows he can't wipe himself out of existence because of the way he traveled. His future is fine, he just has to repair his time machine.
But you know. Homeless, no resources. Bruce taught him to be suspicious of the government, and this is before the League, so. Not many people he can turn to.
It was almost an accident, but he was walking Ace and caught the Joker mid-rant against Batman and Robin. Terry heckles them as a distraction. He insults the Clown good. He even throws in a barb against Batman just to be funny.
Tim tries to guide him away, but the Big Brother instinct kicks in and he ends up fighting the Joker anyway.
When Batman tried to catch up to him, Terry flinched and ran. Sure, Bruce would help, but he wanted to do this by himself.
Red Hood hears about this and decides to investigate. "Hey, buddy. word is you ain't scared of clowns. I hear you could use some protection."
Terry weighs his options. He's read about Jason Todd. Red Hood. The whole mess. "It's not like I'm not scared, it's just - that Robin kid. I had a little brother his size and I'd be pissed if a low rate clown ever hurt him." And "you know death doesn't stop some people. Why don't we mock him? Make sure no one takes him seriously ever again?"
"I'm listening."
Terry becomes an Enforcer in Crime Alley. He gets close to Jason, mostly because of shared backgrounds and complaining about "their old bosses", not that Jason knows he's also talking about Bruce.
Terry had a big yelling match with his father Warren the last time he saw him before he died. He starts to soften Jason up to the idea of talking with his father since they both have dangerous night jobs.
There are raids for getting Terry's time machine up and running again. There are also surgical attacks on the Joker's usual haunts and goons. Terry and Ace get caught and taken back to Wayne Manor.
Terry specifically asks to watch how Alfred makes his cookies and food. Bruce thinks he's being paranoid but he just wants to know how to make food the way Older Bruce likes it.
Bruce thinks he's Jason and does a DNA test. It shows that he's not Jason, but he is Bruce Wayne's son. Terry didn't know this, and while he was keeping it together so far, he freaks out.
Ace was trained as a medical dog and can tell when someone has heart problems. He makes Terry lay on the floor. "Yeah this is your heart problem, here's a sneak peek of your future."
Idk how to end this but it's like, Jason comes in the front wanting to see his friend. And also talk with Bruce.
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docgold13 · 7 days
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Heroes & Villains The DC Animated Universe - Paper Cut-Out Portraits and Profiles
Terry McGinnis 
In the later half of her career as a shadowy governmental power broker, Amanda Waller became convinced of the essential role Batman played in the safeguarding of not just the United States, but the planet in general.  And yet, unlike Superman or Wonder Woman, Batman was mortal and vulnerable to the inevitabilities of time and age.  As such, she instituted a contingency plan known as 'Project Batman Beyond. ' 
This entitled obtaining a sample of Bruce Wayne’s genetic material and arranging for it to be introduced in the unborn fetus of a Gotham couple.  This couple, Warren and Mary McGinnis, gave birth to a baby boy whom they named Terry.  Bestowing young Terry with Batman’s genetic potential was merely the first step.  Next, Waller had to arrange for Terry to experience the same terrible trauma of loss that forged Bruce Wayne into Batman. 
As such Waller hired an assassin to murder Mr. and Mrs. McGinnis in front of Terry, thus replicating the trauma hat had ultimately molded Bruce into the Batman.  Fortunately this assassin could not go through with the murders and Waller ultimately chose to abandon the project.  
A few years later, fate intervened and Terry’s father was killed by an agent of the sinister businessman, Derrick Powers.   Happenstance resulted in Terry’s anguish ultimately leading him to an aged Bruce Wayne.  Terry stole Bruce’s technologically advanced Bat-suit and he used it to become the new Batman, eventually bringing his father’s killer to justice.  
Begrudgingly at the start, Bruce finally chose to train Terry and help him become the new Batman for a new era.  Chance had stepped in to fulfill Amanda Waller’s scheme and the world received the protector she so felt it needed.  Project Batman Beyond had come to fruition.  
Actor Will Friedle provided the voice for Terry, with the young hero first appearing in the bed episode of Batman Beyond, ‘Rebirth Part One.’   
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missalice1929 · 29 days
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DC Batman Beyond
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So, remember about a month ago back in February there was originally a pitch for Batman Beyond movies created by the guy who made Across the Spider-Verse. If we ever get a Batman Beyond animated which I really do hope so, since he definitely a character alongside his supporting cast and villain that deserve to be on the big screen movie.
I decided to pitch character that should be in the Batman Beyond movies.
Main Character:
-Terry Mcginnis as the Main Batman -An older and retired Bruce Wayne (Batman) -Ace the Bathounds
Supporting Cast:
-Warren Mcginnis (Terry Father/ Flashback scene) -Matt Mcginnis (Terry Little Brother) -Mary Mcginnis (Terry Mother) -Maxine “Max” Gibson (Terry Best friends) -Dana Tan (Terry Girlfriends) -Commissioner Barbara Gordon of GCPD
Villains:
-Spellbinder (Main Villains) -Blight (Secondary Antagonist) -Inque (third antagonist)
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You're Just Like Quicksand
Fandom: DC Comics, Batfam, Batman Beyond
Summary: Jason Todd is ready to go into semi-retirement after fifteen years working with troubled youth, but one case in particular forces him to confront the sins of his youth and painful memories from his past.
Chapters: 8/?
Characters: Jason Todd, Terry McGinnis, Warren McGinnis, Mary McGinnis, Matt McGinnis, Bruce Wayne, Original Character(s)
Relationship(s): TBA
Additional Tags: Protective Jason Todd, Good Sibling Jason Todd, Retired Jason Todd, Multiple POV, Hurt/Comfort, Parent-Child Relationships, Canon Divergent AU, Angst, Mourning Jason Todd
Chapter Eight: No Doubt About It (Terry McGinnis' POV)
I couldn’t fight my way out. My adrenaline wouldn’t let me give up, but my mind knew I was outnumbered. They managed to cage me in. I hit a few of them. I know I did, but it didn’t take long for them to overpower and beat me to a pulp. I thought it would never stop. And then it did. Once my ears stopped ringing, I heard a shout. It was deep and resounding. It was Jason. “No one moves!” Jason shouted. 
“No one move,” one of the pumpkinheads mocked.  
One of my eyes swelled shut, but I watched him with the other as he knocked kids unconscious left and right. It took him twenty seconds max to take them out, and then he carried me over his shoulder to his car. “You okay, Terry?” Jason asked.  
“Jason?” I asked. 
“I’m gonna take you to the hospital. The police are on their way, and your school’s cameras caught you running away. You’re not in any trouble,” Jason explained. His voice was softer and calmer than usual. I reached out and grabbed his wrist. “It’s okay. Focus on my voice. That’s all you need to do.” 
He started rambling about a castle in a graveyard town and a king with ghosts for children. I couldn’t find any meaning in his words. It seemed like a dark fairytale. I must’ve passed out because I woke up in the hospital with my father holding my hand. “Jason never left your side,” Dad smiled. I looked to my other side, and Jason sat in a chair, fast asleep, holding a little girl.  “Who’s the kid?” I asked. 
“He’s a grandfather,” Dad replied, “It’s a shock to me, too.”  
Jason sniffed and sat up. “Sorry, I must’ve dozed. Terry, how’re you doing?” Jason muttered, still half-asleep.  
“I’ve been better,” I replied, “Thanks for getting me… But—. Where’d you learn to fight like that?”
“It was mostly adrenaline,” Jason whispered, “Next weekend, I’d like to invite you both to dinner at my home. I insist.” 
“Oh, Jason. We couldn’t possibly—.” 
“It would be comforting for me. Besides, I’ve had an awful day, and it’d be nice to have my friend over for dinner,” Jason interrupted. My dad smiled.
“Well, when you put it that way… Jason, we’ll be there,” Dad replied. Jason groaned as he stood up, still holding his granddaughter.
“See you guys soon. I’ve gotta take my snuggah bug home to eat. Call me whenever,” Jason whispered. He smiled, but it seemed painful.  
Jason left me with my dad, and we stared at each other. “Do you think he’s too cool to be my friend?” Dad asked. I smiled. “It makes sense that you guys would be friends. It makes you cooler because he said it first,” I answered. Dad looked at my hand. “I don’t wanna change schools.”  
“I know you don’t. How do we make this work?” Dad questioned. It was the first time he ever asked me to make a big decision. I didn’t know what to tell him. 
“I have to be more careful… Dad, I—. Do you think there’s something wrong with me?” I asked. He let go of my hand and pushed my bangs out of my face. 
“No, Terry… Why would you—? Why would you say that?” Dad questioned. His voice was soft as he failed to hide the concern in his voice. Dad could never hide when something bothered him.
“Dad, when I—. I thought I’d be scared, but I was—. I was so—. I had a rush, even though I knew it was a fight I couldn’t win. I—. You’re looking at me with that face... Something changed between you and me… And it was before I got into trouble. What is it, Dad? What do you see that I can’t?” I asked. 
“It’s the opposite, Terry. I don’t know what I see sometimes… And that terrifies me,” Dad answered. He reached for Terry and touched his forehead. “Terry, I love you. That’s all I know for sure. I would do anything for you.”
“I love you too, Dad,” I replied. I didn’t say it enough. I know I didn’t. There used to be a time when I’d say it every time I saw him. Things were better then. 
Dad looked at the machine behind my head and sighed. “Your mom’s gonna lose it when she sees your face…”
“Did you tell Mom I was in the hospital?” I asked. 
“I had to. Mom’s stuck in traffic, but she’s on her way here,” Dad answered. Great… 
“Dad—.” 
“Do you remember when you broke your arm when you were six?” Dad interrupted. 
“Huh? Yeah… I remember,” I answered. 
“I’ve always hated—.” Dad gagged, and I sat up in bed, wincing as I clutched my ribs. “Sorry, I don’t know what I—.” He made cards come out of his mouth, and a nurse passing by chuckled. It was my favorite trick as a kid. I smiled. Afterward, he always took out a handkerchief and wiped his mouth. That was my favorite part. 
“You got me,” I smiled. 
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Mom arrived at the hospital in tears. I hated it when she cried. “Mom… Mom, I’m alright,” I reassured her. She hugged me, and I winced.
“Terry, how did this happen?” Mom questioned. 
“Dregs caught me off guard at school, and they jumped me… Jason showed up—.” 
“Gangs, Terry?” Mom interrupted. 
“I’m not in a gang anymore, Mom. You don’t have to worry about that. I promise… This happens sometimes when people leave gangs—.” 
“So, when is this gonna end?” Mom questioned. “When they—. When they kill you? Oh god, Terry.” Mom covered her mouth, and Dad stared into space. He always did that when he was overwhelmed. I don’t think it occurred to him that someone could kill me for leaving the gang. Dad was a straight-laced guy… As far as I knew. 
“Mom, that’s not gonna happen. Okay? Look at me… No one’s gonna kill me. And I’m not running away,” I replied. Mom couldn’t stop crying, and I wished it would stop. 
“Terry, I don’t know—. I can’t—. I can’t calm down,” Mom wept. I squeezed her hand and smiled. 
“I’m not going anywhere, Mom,” I replied. 
“Jason was there? How did—?” 
“I called him,” Dad interrupted. I was surprised to hear his voice. “And he—. He didn’t have a scratch on him.” Dad sounded far away. “Even with his adrenaline pumping—.” 
“Yeah, he used to be a cage fighter,” I replied. 
“A cage fighter turned mentor?” Mom questioned as she wiped her tears away. 
Dad chuckled. “Gotham never changes… Does it?” Dad asked. Mom chewed her lip. “We shouldn’t be surprised.” 
I grinned as I shut my eyes. “Jason’s so schway… You should’ve seen it,” I replied. My parents quieted, and I felt my mom’s hand sift through my hair. I knew it was her hand from how cautious she was. I missed seeing my mom. Maybe she missed me too. I hoped she did.
Despite my exhaustion, I couldn’t sleep. I lay still, trying to relax, but my mind kept playing over everything that had happened. Something about Jason made me feel normal. I used to think adults didn’t understand kids, but Jason was different. I believed he knew everything there was to know about me. He knew me —no doubt about it. Jason and I were the same. Or at least he remembered what it was like when he was like me.
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heavenboy09 · 4 months
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#Batman85 Fact #5: On January 10, 1999, Terry McGinnis’ Batman debuted in the DC Animated Universe television series ‘Batman Beyond’.
Standing as a continuation of the DC television series ‘Batman: The Animated Series’ and then end to the DCAU, 1999's ‘Batman Beyond’ was created by The WB Television Network. A retired and elderly Bruce Wayne becomes teenager Terry McGinnis’ mentor as he becomes the new Batman in a Neo-Gotham City originally said to be set about 20 years into the future. Wanting to be the Dark Knight even after bringing Derek Powers, Terry’s father’s (Warren McGinnis) killer, to justice, Terry would continue to be Batman and battle his own villains in this futuristic metropolis.
‘Batman Beyond’ ran for two years, produced 52 episodes and included a short lived spin-off (‘The Zeta Project’) and one direct-to-video movie (“Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker”). Revealed in Dwayne McDuffie, Bruce Timm, and Dan Riba’s ‘Justice League Unlimited’ 2005 episode “Epilogue”, set 15 years after the events of ‘Batman Beyond’, Terry learns from Amanda Waller that his connection with Bruce is down to the DNA because Terry is Bruce’s biological son. Waller intended for Bruce’s legacy as the Caped Crusader to continue after he retired, so she created “Project Batman Beyond” that made Warren’s reproductive DNA (through the use of Project Cadmus’ engineering) identical to Bruce Wayne’s. Coming to terms with his destiny, Terry would continue to embrace his role as the protector of Gotham.
While the animated ‘Batman Beyond’ universe would gain tie-in limited comic series during the television run (1999-2001), Terry McGinnis’ Batman wasn’t included within the mainstream DC Universe continuity. In the Pre New-52, Terry would appear in several stories such as Jeph Loeb’s “With a Vengeance!“ (2005’s Superman/Batman #22), Adam Beechen and Ryan Benjamin's “Hush Beyond” (2010’s Batman Beyond (Vol 3)), and Grant Morrison’s “Time and the Batman” (2010’s Batman #700). McGinnis’ Batman would officially be part of continuity in 2014’s The New 52: Futures End and continue to thrive within the New 52 and DC Rebirth / Universe comics with his own self titled publications. From the small screen to the comic pages, ‘Batman Beyond’ for the first time placed a teenager in the mantle, which resulted in popularity among not just same age readers but also new and old Batman universe fans.🦇🎊📺
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"All those years alone in your cell-- plenty of time to think, reflect and grow, right? Maybe you're wiser than you used to be. Maybe you're more capable of letting people in and embracing the healing process... Or maybe you're still the same dissapearing jackass you always were. Duke, you said the other Batman asked about Warren McGinnis? I'll lock into that while you hit the street and... Really-- both of them! Seriously Dad-- I don't know how you put up with it for so long."
Batman: Beyond the White Knight (Batman: White Knight (2017).
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oifaaa · 1 year
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In the back of my head I have an AU where Jason successfully ended up running Gotham, getting every rogue to bend the knee or be killed, outwitting Bruce. And then years down the line, he did what he does: make a pragmatic call on whether to let a man live or die. The man was, unwittingly, helping develop a bioweapon. The time table was tight, and there was no other target that was as accessible or that would cripple the project nearly as much.
Jason kills Warren McGinnis AU.
Now that's an au idea - honestly Jason killing Terry's dad and being what sets him on the path of becoming the next batman would be so interesting
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gabbieranting · 22 days
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My Silly Application Piece for Screen Rant
Why Only Terry McGinnis Should Succeed Bruce Wayne as the Next Batman 
The cowl has been passed throughout the Bat Family with reverence, and possibly, with too much frequency for something which has been identified by the Lasso of Truth as a singular person’s true identity. Bruce Wayne, as Superman says in Superman/Batman #76, is the disguise. The true identity is the one that formed in the dark, and much of Bruce Wayne died in Crime Alley with his parents. However, one of the many Paul Dini creations to make it from cartoon to comic, Terry McGinnis, is the most appropriate successor to the title Batman, for several reasons. 
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The Gotham that Terry lives in is different from, but similar to, the Gotham which Bruce aged protecting. A technological arms race with Batman and his team has led to street gangs armed with hovercrafts, drones, and explosives. Criminals have taken up the themes and adapted the costumes of classic Gotham villains. Wayne Enterprises has been merged with Powers Industries to form Wayne-Powers, and its leader, Derek Powers, murders Terry’s father to hide the development of a mutagenic nerve gas. Early in his career, Terry creates his own first nemesis, exposing Powers to the toxic chemicals that will turn him into the villain Blight. In the same manner as his mentor, Terry creates a slowly escalating chain reaction among the Gotham underworld. 
Terry’s personality is also the most similar to Bruce’s. Of all Bruce’s proteges, Terry’s brooding is the most familiar. Dick is unique in his ability to heal emotionally from trauma, Jason in his inability to do so. Damian is, in a way, loved and raised by both of his parents, as is the Helena Wayne who is the daughter of Bruce and Selena (in Tom King’s Batman/Catwoman.) Each of these Batmen wear the cowl in situations where they are mourning Bruce Wayne, their surrogate father. When Bruce is off-world or when he is dead, a Robin picks up the mantle. But Terry is trained not as Robin, but as Batman, by Batman. Terry is a direct answer to the Gotham he serves, and has solid reason to avenge himself upon the city. The loss of his father to a brutal crime, the creation of his own nemesis, his refusal to fully join the Justice League, and his perpetual exhaustion from living two lives leads Terry to be a mirror of Bruce in his misery. 
Thanks to Amanda Waller, another Terry is an appropriate successor to Bruce’s city is because he is Bruce’s biological offspring. Waller, fearing a world without a Batman, found a psychological match to Thomas and Martha Wayne in Mary and Warren McGinnis, and used nanotech and a sample of Batman’s blood to replace Warren’s DNA in his reproductive cells with Bruce’s. Terry, and his brother Matt, therefore, are biologically Bruce’s. Waller’s original intent was to have Andrea Beaumont - the Phantasm - murder Mary and Warren in front of Terry as a child, to spur him into a crusade against crime.
Phantasm backed out at the last minute out of respect for Bruce, and Waller agreed, canceling the project; but her actions unintentionally spurred on the McGinnis’s divorce when Warren found out his sons weren’t his and suspected an affair. Terry coming to grips with his origin in Project Batman Beyond further aligns him with the struggle of the original Batman. 
Finally, out of all of Batman’s potential heirs, only Terry has the luxury of never having worked alongside Bruce as Robin. Terry and all his rogues are a clean slate, a new chaos, and unlike any of the others,, Terry has never been a sidekick. In Batman Beyond, Bruce the role fulfills is Oracle’s; manning the computers from the cave and feeding intel into the comms.
For Terry, Bruce isn’t Batman; the batsuit isn’t Bruce’s skin, his identity, and taking on the name Batman isn’t the burden of wearing your father’s shoes for Terry in the way it would be for any of the former Robins. Terry has the ability and distance to become his own Batman, and not a temporary replacement for the real thing.
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