#what's the endgame here?

[willthezombieboy]

mike literally ran under the rain to apologize to will but with el all he did was go home and eat chips

#stranger things #byler #finn wolfhard #mike wheeler #noah schnapp #will byers #byler canon #stranger things fandom #byler analysis #byler tumblr #byler is canon #byler endgame #i dont know what to put here

[triviallytrue]

Israel just keeps doing shit that should get them forcibly occupied by a UN peacekeeping force

#blacklist #like what is the endgame here?? mass starvation???? because that's what it fucking feels like

[camiladnne]

#they're the same 2.04 "Love Game"

#the summer i turned pretty #tsitpedit #belly conklin #conrad fisher #steven conklin #taylor jewel #bonrad #staylor #adaptationsdaily #cinemapix #cinematv #everythingdaily #tvedit #conrad x belly #taylor x steven #my edits #if I was a decent gifmaker this would such a fun post #but i'm not so here's what I have to offer #my endgames

[sapphorror]

Y'know... A lot of ZaDr fics have them either gradually drifting into a less contentious status quo or establishing a deeply bizarre multilayered dynamic that is nonetheless very consistent and beholden to its own rules—which works, to be clear, because slavish adherence to the rhythm of their endless 'game' is already their canon baseline.

WITH THAT BEING SAID. I think it would be very funny to depict a ZaDr dynamic in which they're like, on-again off-again nemeses. As they get older theyre gradually forced to acknowledge the true depth of their mutual attachment, but instead of actually improving themselves in any lasting way or compromising the conflicting elements into an ill-definable state of contentious codependence, they just start oscillating wildly between periods of obscenely clingy allyship and devotedly murderous enmity. There's never an in between. They'll dedicate all their energy to trying to horrifically torture each other to death, until one of them gets uncomfortably close to actually dying or an external crisis pushes them together or they just get bored—at which point, they become obnoxiously glued at the hip until one of them relapses into anxiety about their ambitions or an argument escalates past the the point of no return or they just get bored. And every time they both Really Mean It, They're Not Gonna Do This Anymore, before naturally going ahead and doing it again

#invader zim #zadp #zadr #iz posting #natterings #there is so much good drama potential here actually #initially I just thought the idea was funny and it IS but also #there is something to be said about leveraging the full force of ones loathing #against someone you've been sincerely intimate with #and at the same time still being too attached to that person to fully commit #so that it just becomes this endless unresolved resentment that's never meaningfully addressed #also how this effects literally everyone around them #because they literally cannot be trusted to stick to anything #anything they do they HAVE to do as a team #until they get so sick of each other that they'd sooner die than share a cause #and they'll sign themselves onto wholeass war efforts just to have a sufficiently dramatic battleground #(because obviously it's not any fun if the stakes arent absurdly high #'apocalyptic' being the bare minimum here) #only to defect without a second thought the moment they decide they miss each other #at the end of the day there's only one kind of dedication and loyalty they care about #and they're making it everyone elses problem #im always saying steady pitch-pale vacillation is the ideal zadr endgame #and what is this if not that taken to its absolute practical and emotional extreme

[strawberrybyers]

SHUT UP THEY’RE ABSOLUTELY CRAZY

#3rd photo collage credit from this post by @will80sbyers

#“please wait here’ MIKE ALWAYS WAITED FOR WILL #BYLER IS SO ENDGAME #LIKE WHAT ARE WE DOINGGGGGGGG #WILL BEING IN THE HOSPITAL AND REMEMBERING MIKE #MIKE WAITING FOR WILL IN THE HOSPITAL #MIKE GIVING WILL A HUG WHEN HE SAW HIM AT THE HOSPITAL #MIKE SITTING BY WILL’S SIDE IN S2 AT THE HOSPITAL IN THE LAB #BYLER MOMENTS AT THE HOSPITAL #byler #will byers #mike wheeler #stranger things

[glitterylittlesapphire]

Me when the BuckTommy fics I read turn into Buddie fics

I'm as much of a Buddie shipper as the next guy. I've been here since DAY ONE. Me and my mom wait patiently each week for these gay firefighters to kiss.

Now I'm not saying cut Eddie out. In fact, I'm saying cut Tommy in. MORE POLY FIREFIGHTER FICS. Get my boy and boy and boy in there. Let them fuck.

#911 abc #bucktommy #buddie #buddie is ENDGAME FOR SURE #but in the meantime let's enjoy AND LET BUCK ENJOY HAVING A HOT BOYFRIEND #get in here with jealous eddie and give him TWO BOYFRIENDS #guys I feel like you're missing it #let Tommy RUIN these idiots by showing them gay they don't even KNOW about gay these silly boys #it'll be fun it'll be sexy what's better than 2 gay firefighters? I'll tell you right now it's THREE GAY FIREFIGHTERS #we've had our buddie fics for YEARS and we'll have them for YEARS to come let's enjoy Tommy while he's here LET THEM ALL KISS

[th30ra3k3n]

Just grab my hand and don't ever drop it

My love

They are the hunters, we are the foxes

And we run

Baby, I know places we won't be found, and

They'll be chasing their tails trying to track us down

'Cause I, I know places we can hide

I know places

#i do not know what the vision was for this one #but here you go #i know places (tv) by taylor swift #thiam #thiam is endgame #theo raeken x liam dunbar #thiam fanfic #thiam aesthetic #thiam angst #thiam playlist #theo raeken #liam dunbar #theo x liam

[ayilings]

ouran host club (idol tamaki au?)

#ohshc #ouran #ouran high school host club #kyoya ootori #tamaki suoh #hikaru hitachiin #haruhi fujioka #ouran fanart #ouran hshc #guilty beauty love oursold ur favs #i love drawing i can make whatever self-indulgent thing i want REAL #id draw more of them but grad school takes all my time. sighs #if i were to flesh this out id want idol kyoya and idol tamaki au with endgame tamakyo bc ur middle school otps are eternal <3! #with the last kyoya drawing here i had this thought of idol him performing on stage with tamaki as a collab or smth #and its cool n all but then he sees tamaki singing his heart out backlit beautifully sincere and passionate #and he has his italicized oh moment GBDHDJSS #what can i say i love music i love cheesiness i love being moved by genuine artistry etc etc #hskmeows

[daylightaftertherain]

btw young royals' central thesis for wille is still "the problem isn't that he likes a boy, the problem is that he's a prince" and people need to remember that

also I was going to put the rest in the tags but yknow what

yes I KNOW he can't realistically abdicate YET, but I'm saying it's the best resolution for him and not just because it would give him and simon an easier time!! if the fandom weren't so caught up in yelling about how the only happy or good ending is wilmon endgame (seperate rant that I texted avie yesterday but not the point of this post) maybe we could have a discussion about wille abdicating would be more for himself than any relationship he may or may not be in.

even if he and simon broke up the source of his problems would still lie PRIMARILY with the monarchy, and removing himself from that would be the first step to HIM recovering and healing and growing, not his relationship w simon. that's a seperate matter and seperate problem that can only be properly addressed after abdication because while he is a prince and part of a corrupted and vicious system, he cannot be a good person to himself, simon, or any of his friends and family.

#trust and believe I am still an endgame truther but it's kinda annoying to see people blatantly missing the point of the show #and what the problems it's trying to depict are simply because it gets in the way of wilmon getting back together #and the whole thing for me does have echoes of amanormativity and the weird mindsets a LOT of people here have #we've been very explicitly shown that being crown prince is destroying every aspect of wille's life in some way!! #and not just the romantic side even though THAT'S what people fixate on the most!! #like I hate to say it but yr is a drama about class and identity before it is a romance #young royals

[thejadecount]

Me: Yeah I don’t cry from tragedy romance

Me after watching the end of Loki:

#loki series #loki laufeyson #mobius #lokius #loki god of stories #loki x mobius #THE FINALE FUCKED ME UP OKAY #I HAVE CRIED FROM A MARVEL FILM SINCE ENDGAME HOLY SHIT #so yeah can we just get the Loki crew to write all Marvel films from now on okay thank u #HOLY SHIT #WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT #WHAT DO YOU MEAN ‘I’ll let time pass’ AND THEN LOKI HERES IT #AND THE CENTURIES TIME SKIP #MOST BEAUTIFULLY FUCKED UP MARVEL FILM GOES TO THIS EPISODE HOLY SHIT #THE FICS ARE GOING TO BE SO SAD I MIGHT ACTUALLY BRING THEM UP IN THERAPY #FUCK ROMEO AND JULIET THESE GUYS ARE STAR-CROSSED LOVERS #AHHHHHHHHHHH #NOW IF YOU ALL NEED ME ILL BE ON SPOTIFY MAKING AN ANGST PLAYLIST

[drulalovescas]

What is happening here 😭😭

#and they end up being endgame #help #destiel #i dont know whats happening in the lordless year 2023 but im here for it #castiel #dean winchester

[fae-lure-the-bard]

(Art credits to @kidovna)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY WILL BYERS.

I got you a present - artwork of you and mike kissing coz you deserve it and he forgot your birthday.

happy birthday 🎂

#happy birthday will byers #idk what to put here #uhhhh #ummmm #Byler #mike wheeler #will byers #Stranger things #I'm bored #byler endgame

[byler-is-endgame7]

byler tumblr is just an interesting place cause you can literally just say "babygirl you're the heart" and boom 50 notes

#i love it here #i love bylers #byler #byler endgame #byler is endgame #byler is real #byler memes #byler nation #byler tumblr #will byers #will x mike #mike wheeler i know what you are #mike x will #i know what you are mike wheeler #mike wheeler #byler is canon #byler brainrot #mike wheeler is gay #mike wheeler x will byers #will byers is fruity #will byers x mike wheeler #will is gay

[lesbianalicentarchive]

Very funny actually that the reason so many self prof “anti-Rhaenicents” hate the pairing is because they treat one another badly and they’ll kill one another.

Like. Ok. That’s part of the appeal? This isn’t an enemies to lovers thing, we KNOW they’re never going to actually be together. But the tragedy of these two teenage girls who clearly loved one other deeply being forced apart because of all they were submitted to and ultimately destroying one another; how the patriarchal power structure pitted them against one another? All the while still harboring that love for one another, that love driving them mad because of the betrayal they feel, yet still deep down always yearning to return to that simpler time? That’s what draws us in. The darkness and the tragedy and the what COULD have been (but never will be).

The show is centered around THEIR relationship, THEIR feelings. Everyone else orbits around them. Of course people are gonna read into that. Especially when the actresses practically tell us that was what they were going for. And like, the point of setting all this up is so that next season when they finally reach their breaking point and want to kill one another horribly it will be much more impactful. That’s how stories work.

#we’re here cheering for their divorce not trying to get an endgame lol #rhaenicent #also I think being an anti because of their book dynamic is also dumb #if you wish the show was more like the book then #I disagree but good for you #but the show dynamic IS DIFFERENT from the book and the show dynamic is what we enjoy and ship #hotd

[bayzadas]

So I met this person who said "if only his (Tony's) dad was ever actually developed to be actually abusive" and that's bullshit. Howard clearly abused Tony in a lot of ways- emotionally, mentally, physically.

He made Tony drink alcohol when Tony was a literal child, told him he had to be a man. That's how Tony's drinking problem started. Howard forcing a child, his own child, to drink. He told him that drinking will put hair on his chest, and that he had to stop being a sissy. He hit Tony when he saw him playing with toys. He physically abused him for acting his age. Because of Howard, Tony stopped playing with toys. There were only weapons. Tony literally promised him "No toys, just weapons."

In the comics, Howard literally tried to sell Tony to Dracula in exchange of immortality. He died, became a demon and tried to kill his own son in hell. And people are still saying that he tried his best to be a dad and that he failed? My friend, he didn't even try a little. Imagine being that ignorant.

And no, MCU Howard isn't better. Howard literally scarred Tony for his whole life. He didn't let him be a child. He wanted him to be another version of himself. Iron Man 2 tried to show Howard as a good man by making him say "You were my greatest creation" and that was full of shit. First of all, he didn't even try to show Tony that he appreciated him even just a little bit. That man didn't even bothered to tell Tony he loved him even once. And then he recorded himself saying that? You gotta try a little harder if you want your son to think better of you, Howard. Also, saying that your own son is your greatest creation is weird. Tony is his own person. He isn't a machine that Howard made, that man doesn't own him.

Avengers Endgame also tried to make Howard look better and that made me sick. That was awful. Endgame was so bad for that. Tony hugged his abuser, forgave him, and literally thanked him for everything.

Russo brothers, what the hell? What did Tony thank Howard for, exactly? Ignoring him? Starting his drinking problem? Hitting him? Abusing him verbally? Physically? Not letting him be a child for once? Are those the things Tony thanked Howard for?

And don't even get me started on "The kid's not even here yet, and there's nothing I wouldn't do for him." Everything about this sentence is awful. Horrible. Disgusting. Makes me sick. You know why? Because that is a way of saying Tony is the one to blame.

Knowing how Howard treated Tony, this literally means Tony is the one who failed to meet Howard's expectations. Tony's the one who's at fault for the way how Howard abused him. Because he wasn't good enough. Because he wasn't what Howard wanted him to be. If Tony was what Howard expected, Howard wouldn't be so bad with him. But Tony disappointed him, so Howard gave up on him. That's literally what that sentence means. Tony's playing the victim. He's being ungrateful to his dad. Howard's not wrong for the way how he raised Tony, Tony should've known better.

Did you know that Tony, as a fourteen years old child, was so traumatized to the point he built something he called "Stark City"? He built that as an apology to his father. And you know what he was trying to apologize for? Living. He tried to apologize Howard for living and Howard didn't even see it.

Imagine the feeling. Imagine the way how he felt his whole childhood. Abused. Ignored. Depressed. Maybe even suicidal, since he literally regretted being born as a fourteen years old. But yeah, only if Howard was actually developed to be an abusive father.

Fuck you, Russo brothers. Fuck you, Howard apologists.

#tony stark #pro tony stark #tony stark defense squad #tony stark deserves better #anti howard stark #anti mcu #anti endgame #anti russos #tw abuse #i don't trust anyone who says Howard tried his best #we don't do that here #we don't victim blame #we don't try to defend abusers #that's a no #fuck howard stark #and you know what i love about tony #that he breaks the abused becomes the abuser trope #look at how howard treated him #and then look at how tony treated peter #what an amazing character #irondad #spiderson

[chirpsythismorning]

I'm not going to say we should take every single thing official Netflix accounts post as gospel, because obviously they are not run by the Duffer Brothers themselves.

But to be clear, these people are hired by Netflix and there's more to it than just random interns scheduling posts. The people running these accounts are not the same people designing the posts made there, just like the people designing those posts have higher ups telling them what to do/not do in terms of the content they are creating. And there are plenty more levels that go beyond that, which eventually does lead to the Duffers and producers of the show, who do have a stake in how the show is promoted on a basic level to best align with their intentions and all the revelations still to come.

It is common knowledge that the Duffers work with Netflix marketing directly on a consistent basis to get their vision across, and that carries out in promotion with posters, merchandise, social media, etc., because it's really important in ST case (with it being a show made by nerds that love easter eggs), that they foreshadow what is still to come outside of the show itself.

When it comes to social media, the core purpose of those accounts is to encourage engagement for Netflix's user base, ideally ensuring they tune in to whatever is being promoted (and more), but it’s also more than that, in that it’s even more based on data and other factors.

What this leads to is the people in those less major decision-making roles, like graphic designers, simply being advised what to create, based on the information and content they are given to work with.

And so these accounts going from promoting byler subtly for years, to blatantly posting about it post-s5, is actually very, very intentional, going beyond a simple Netflix intern. It’s orchestrated by those in management positions, being advised by those in the ST production to do things a certain way, so that when all is said and done, we are able to look back and find tiny little things that point to it.

Byler can't be something they NEVER talked about even once on social media, only to have them end up being endgame with them posting about it forever afterwards when it's all said and done. It doesn't work like that, at least not in ST case. We're talking about a production that costs hundreds of millions to make, as well as being the most talked about mainstream series of our generation.

They have an obligation to make their story feel not only satisfying on its own, but to also promote the show in a way that makes the viewer feel this whole well-rounded experience, outside of the show itself as well.

And so when ST came out in summer 2022 and Netflix Geeked was making posts about it non-stop, that wasn't a rogue, low-paid Netflix intern doing whatever they wanted. That was multiple people with a job given a task and following through with it at their advisers discretion. Regardless of where it ended up, it started at the top with the Duffers informing higher ups in marketing that Byler is something that will happen, along with other revelations that they want to inform marketing about, so they can take the steps to plan ahead and create content that matches the Duffer's vision, most often to act as a foreshadowing device for the story still unraveling.

Remember when Netflix Geeked made a post acknowledging that Will the Wise drawing in El's room back in s3?? A very well known byler easter egg that only we know about??? That wasn't some ga intern watching the show once and them spontaneously coming up with content to create related to that drawing and posting about it themselves. That was very likely someone associated with the show giving suggestions to marketing, with a few of them being very incriminating in relation to byler, but with most being casual in relation to the show overall.

Just like I said in this post about how Noah didn't tweet about byler or mention it multiple times at cons unprompted bc he was feeling quirky. He was being advised to...

And look what Netflix did to that tweet Noah posted that was clearly a stunt in an of itself.? They broadcasted it and made a cheesy ass edit out of it... And it's bc several people behind the scenes were advised to make content like that specifically.

I mean, if you actually look at how social media promotes byler (if and when it does), it's arguably in the exact way that the Duffers want it to be promoted?. Just enough. Not too little. Not too much. I would argue if the Duffers had no say whatsoever in how the show was promoted, then we'd either be seeing byler constantly or we wouldn't see them at all, instead we see social media sort of dance around it, which tells me they are following the exact approach the Duffers themselves follow... because they were obviously given the instruction to.

And so seeing an account like UK Netflix, an account that as of recent has really went all out with posting Queer content since Heartstopper released, has also notably made really incriminating posts about byler over the years, but especially as of recent. And that's in large part because of what I've stated, but also based on data.

If higher ups in marketing at Netflix know about byler, then they are very likely pushing people lower on the payroll, doing more simple tasks like graphic design and social media management, to make connections to ST with other shows like Heartstopper, Sex Education, Young Royals, etc. And this is because if byler IS going to end up being this huge Queer love story, data is telling them to make these connections sooner than later, so that the eventual revelation will be a smooth transition amongst other content just like it. This works in Netflix's favor at the end of the day, which is the whole point of all of this.

Not saying you should take the most casual of Netflix posts as byler endgame proof if that's what you're asking. But to say that these accounts have NO association with the Duffer's and ST directly, therefore we shouldn’t even appreciate anything they post if it points to byler, is sort of over-simplifying things.

It's not like s5 is gonna drop and all of these interns are going to be like OHHH okay now i'm a byler so i'll post about it... Going into s5 they're going to be making some very side eye posts and it isn't going to have anything to do with them being an intern without any say in things, its gonna be about them getting a task list and following through with it bc it's their job.

#byler #stranger things #whenever i see bylers just having fun appreciating a netflix post acknowledging byler #only to see another byler discouraging them bc it's not proof #i lose brain cells #bc like no shit it isn't proof #but it's still a small piece of the puzzle just like posters and trailer and merch and everything else in between outside of the show #it's not like these accounts are going to spontaneously start posting byler post-s5 bc they feel like it... #it goes beyond that... #the duffers themselves have said they worked with marketing to plan out foreshadowing hiding in the details of their posters... #all it literally takes is them telling one person high up in marketing #'hint at byler... make it subtle but not too subtle!' #and that's literally all there is to it #all it takes is a graphic designer reading off notes for what the creators want/expect and doing it according to their wishes... #that's it #q: where do you think they get the footage to create and post what they do? a: the ST production! #like lets use our brains here #so if you see a byler positive post from an official netflix account #go nuts #bc byler endgame is already happening #it isn't going to happen/not happen bc of a social media post acknowledging it #but that doesn't mean you cant celebrate and enjoy yourself while we wait