#while we're here i think it is also tremendously funny how i have like
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I personally think its disgusting of what she posted yet again its all about her and she the reason why micheal keeps trending 4th day oh please he was trending for days before she came in the picture. And for someone who has no career and basically living off her parter who works so hard and been ill with virus the last few days and haven't been able to perform and she post this. Taking the credit for something that has nothing to do with her. He very grateful that she keep him grounded what that suppose to mean ? He was doing better before she came in the picture since he been with her his career have been slowed a little and she probably the reason for it
What do u say ?
Oh, boy. I saw this a little while ago, and all I could think was that the bar is so low at this point--like halfway between the fourth and fifth circles of Hell--and this still somehow falls short.
I know there has been a lot of talk about the t-shirt Anna is wearing (which was a gift from a fan at the stage door of Nye), but for me, the t-shirt is the least concerning part of all this. It's a reference to a quote from Staged (it's the title of a season 1 episode, in fact), and I am sure Michael found it funny. The only problem is that without the context of why it's a joke, it actually just isn't that funny. And it sets the stage for everything else that is happening.
Which brings me to the caption she wrote, which was what primarily caught my attention. The reason Michael is currently trending on Twitter (X, whatever we're calling it) is because of the overwhelmingly positive response to The Assembly, which aired last Friday night. He is receiving a tremendous amount of praise for being on the show, how he spoke to the interviewers, and the respectful and joyous atmosphere that was cultivated on the show. And rather than allude to any of that--not to mention Michael being sick recently, or the trip they went on to Disneyland Paris--Anna made Michael trending on Twitter about her.
That is what stands out to me the most. The idea of "keeping him grounded" that is coming across more like kicking someone when he is already down. That he somehow needs that, and that she would have us believe he is "grateful" to her for, what...comparing him to a loud bird? Repeatedly making fun of his looks and interests without a shred of respect or affection behind it? I'm also confused by the implication (and the irony) that Michael somehow has a large ego that needs to be kept in check when she is the one coming across as self-involved in this Insta story. So, yes. I'm at a bit of loss here.
I just keep thinking of the things she could have said instead. How she could have uplifted Michael, wished him well on returning to the stage tonight after several days' absence, said how she was glad to have spent time with him or taken care of him while he was ill. Just something that would give him a reason to hold his head high. But I guess it might just be easier to convince herself/everyone else that he is smiling if his head is hanging down instead.
I am just glad Michael is out performing again tonight and getting to be on stage and do the thing he truly loves to do. But those are my thoughts, and I'd be glad to hear from my followers about what you think, regardless of whether you agree or disagree...
#angel19924#reply post#michael sheen#welsh seduction machine#the 'keeping him grounded' thing is giving me Georgia Lite vibes#though at least with Georgia it's original#i don't even know anymore#i don't think AL has had any effect on Michael's career either and I'm not blaming her for that#yet it seems clear he hasn't affected her career in the way she hoped either#trying to provide a balanced perspective#but what's the old saying: when someone shows you who they are believe them the first time#anna lundberg#relationships#thoughts#discourse
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This. This right here is the biggest question of my life right now. How do you sell your work. Really feels like a slap in the face for a real person. (KnB is being the most relevant for me in the funny little side notes lol...)
*personal vent coming* (That little line really hit a sore spot for me.)
I knew it when I was an aspiring author, and was dreading the fact that authors have to take part in marketing their books these days, because I'm hopeless. It's not like I don't try but I'm so terrible. I know nearly every author complains being bad at this aspect of their work but honestly everyone I know does so well compared to me. I just have zero ability to establish a marketable persona for myself and especially to keep it up. It is so draining. Whether it is irl or social media I just can't do it. I have no energy for it. I have a good eye, I'm artistic, so I can come up with a distinctive look, I've been trying to match the worlds of my books and I feel like I do fairly well in the outfit department by now, so at least for the time I'm in a book fair or something I should be more eye-catching than normal. (Even though it doesn't seem to be helping too much. Last book release party was I think the first where a reporter came, and took pictures for a big magazine of the authors standing in line. Guess who was behind a lamp in the picture? You would only be able to tell I'm there if you already know and recognize me by the corner of my vest. And this always happens to me.) Besides the fairs are no more than a few days a year after which I need to recover for a week from all the social interaction. And it's not even the interaction in itself, it's the fact that I should be initiating it and "networking" which is a hell for me. It takes a tremendous toll on me to start conversations, and most of the time I just don't know how. There's a lot more to it why big events are draining for me but this is a big part. I do not know how to initiate casual contact and if I figure out how to, once, I'm pretty much done for the rest of the day. Except if I have a clear goal in mind? Like you wanna be critique partners? That I have no problem initiating even with someone I don't know much, because I clearly already know that we would be compatible from their writing or what I heard them say in a panel. But the whole casual socialising thing I just can't do. I also can't keep up with social media and that's where authors are obviously supposed to be these days (Tumblr is different lol we're all just hanging here) and I can't talk to a camera. (Well, not regularly, and the result really doesn't seem worth as much as it drains me, I am quite boring to watch.) And it's a constant big stressor for me because the pressure to do all this is so big. And I know that my ability to keep writing could depend on it. But in the end... my brain is my brain. If I fry it by forcing it to do what it isn't going to ever be able to do, then I definitely can't write because my brain will be fried.
I know I'll have to come up with a way of doing this that is introversion and autism friendly, but I really just haven't been able to come up with anything sustainable yet. Because there is no way around the fact that you need visibility. I've never worked that part out in my life for more than moments. I haven't figured out the socialising part outside people who know me well.
Well, I am planning to go study graphic design so I'm sure the whole marketing your work topic will be covered there, so I am thinking I'll get ideas there.
I haven't given up, I was just somehow a little sensitive about something reminding me about this while I was in my happy world, not reality. Because it has been a life long struggle.
I'm wondering if I should even post this vent now.
Oh well, maybe someone will relate to it. Or have a kick ass idea to throw at me, haha.
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Episode 46 Transcript: Will They or Won't They? (They Will But They Shouldn't Have)
[intro guitar music]
G: Hello, my name is Grey.
C: And my name is Crystal.
G: And this is Busty Asian Beauties, the Supernatural commentary podcast where I, someone who has seen this show several times…
C: And I, someone who only knows the show through social media, discuss every single episode of Supernatural from start to finish. Also, we are both Asian.
G: Both Asian! For today's episode, we will be discussing Season 3, Episode 2: “The Kids are Alright,” written by Sera Gamble-
C: Something wrong with that woman.
G: - directed by Phil Sgriccia. [both laugh] Okay, we're doing the new thing, right, where we talk about the episode before and after we discuss it. So-
C: Yeah.
G: - our before thoughts are: this episode is absolutely fucking hilarious. [C laughs] Everything about it- like, it's fun. It's funny. And like, I say fun, not good, because it's not good. But oh my god, it's so fucking funny! It's truly something.
C: How does Sera Gamble think genes work?
G: [laughs] Sera Gamble did not pay attention-
C: - in biology.
G: In biology. I don't even know what grade level you discuss this shit, but you do discuss it. Were they discussing this like, back in the eighties? I don't even know.
C: Oh, right, what were biology classes like?
G: Have we considered genetics? Have we known genetics for that long? [laughing] Maybe we haven't. Maybe we haven't. Maybe that's why.
C: Maybe.
G: God. One, that. Two, we get some delicious, delicious Samruby this episode-
C: Yeah.
G: - and oh my god, I am so taken by it, so. We'll get into it. We'll discuss it when we get there. But the two things about this episode are Dean [both laugh] and Lisa and Ben and Samruby, and both parts are actually incredibly fun, and I was- this was the first episode where I wasn't like, booing in a while. Like, I wasn't like sitting there angrily watching. I was actually like, going like, "Whoo! Yeah! Whoo!" you know, I was cheering. I was clapping. It was fun. It was a fun watch. Let's see if it's a fun discussion.
C: Yeah. I think my experience was, I actually quite liked a lot of elements of the case because I like family horror but every time Dean was on screen- What did I say on Discord to you?
G: I think you- wait, I'm gonna read it. Let's read that shit.
C: Oh. "I don't know if it's just lack of sleep, but I can barely stand looking at Dean's face in this ep like I just want to cave his skull in with my boot and hear it squish."
G: Noo. I actually agree. Like, I would say in the first couple of minutes, I agreed tremendously. Like, it was unbearable to watch Dean.
C: Yeah.
G: But then, after a while, it's like, "No, it's fine. He's okay."
C: Also like, why was he like, ugly this episode?
G: It's because- oh, here's another thing that I think we need to get out of the way. The lighting in this episode sucks so bad.
C: Oh, okay.
G: What is wrong? Like-
C: But Sam looks good the whole time.
G: Well, that's true because he's Sam. [laughs] And because he's having his- his like, hot demon summer is about to begin. That's why he looks hot. But the lighting this episode looks like it could be in- what's that episode? "What Is and What Should Never Be"? Like, it could have been from that episode, and you wouldn't know a difference. Like, I think I've told you this last season, right? Like, the lighting in season 3, this is where it becomes wonky. And season 2 really is the last season with good lighting, like, the way we think of Supernatural early seasons type of good kind of lighting. So bye-bye, extremely dark Supernatural. I was shocked because I'm used to, when I watch Supernatural, having to put my brightness all the way up. And I did that this episode and I was like, "It's too bright." [laughs]
C: Yeah.
G: So yeah.
So before we get into the episode, Crystal, what did you know about it before watching it?
C: Yeah. So I knew that this was the Lisa episode, that Dean just fucking shows up at her house looking for a hookup, even though they haven't seen each other for years, and that he meets her son then, who Dean thinks is his because he likes rock music and hits on girls. Also that like, he likes Lisa a lot because she was very bendy, and he's like, doing his death wish tour. I also knew about the phrase “Best night of my life Dean,” which makes me gag and throw up.
G: What?
C: "Best night of my life Dean" [G gags] when the two women were gossiping. He is not good at sex. Sorry, I just know. I just know in my heart that he isn't. And also, I knew that we'd get a scene of Sam and Ruby meeting in a cafe and her eating fries. So yeah.
G: Yeah. I mean, that's pretty much it, though. I mean, the case actually is very interesting this episode, so I'm surprised you don't know anything about the case. This is a case that I remember very well because of that scene with the water, blah blah blah.
C: Yeah.
G: It was- that imprinted in my brain the first time I watched this episode. I was like, "Oh, okay. Cool!"
C: Cool.
G: Cool! Anyway, let's start.
C: Alright.
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G: We start off in like, a suburban household. Like, quite rich-looking type household, and like a woman, is waiting by her door, and she's waiting for-
C: She doesn't get a name this entire episode.
G: Oh my god, for real?
C: Right? It's so weird.
G: She's just "Mom"?
C: She's just Mom, but she looks a lot like Fiona Apple at certain angles, so I called her Fiona in my mind the whole time. [G laughs]
G: That's so real. She's waiting for her daughter because apparently, it's like- they're divorced. Like, she's divorced with the girl's dad, and like, it's a whole like, "She's supposed to sleep there for the night, but she was complaining, so he had to take her back home" kind of deal. And, you know, the girl was very, like, "There are monsters in Dad's house! I don't want to be there anymore! just want to stay with you, Mommy!" Like, you know, that kind of thing. And afterwards, we go to the dad's house, and he's a wood worker, and [laughing] I remember thinking-
C: Yeah, top ten horror movie occupation.
G: - I remember thinking, "Damn, he's a woodworker. Maybe that's why she left." [both laugh] And I don't even know what that means, but I thought it was an incredibly funny thought. [C laughs] He's a woodworker, and he's about to leave his workroom when the power saw starts churning. I don't know what it's called. Moving? I don't know. Gets turned on.
C: Turning or- something.
G: And then yeah, and then he like, turns it off, and he goes out, and it turns on again. And then, while he's checking on it, he gets shoved into it, and then he dies.
C: Yes.
G: It's actually quite brutal. I was like, [gasps]. I gasped when it happened.
C: This is very cool. Because, like, he just falls backwards on it, [G gasps] and then you see it like, sticking up out of his chest and continuing to whir. Hot.
G: And while it was whirring- it was whirring, right? And then he, like, gets pushed back a little because it's like supposed to do that, right? when it's moving- like, it's supposed to move what's being sawed. And I was like, "That's actually pretty cool." So yeah. Special effects still going strong in Supernatural
C: Right, yeah. There's a scene in Freaky, the thing that Kathryn Newton is in, where someone is killed using a circular, like, saw as well, but like specifically, like she starts at the head, and then she pushes the guy all the way through, so he gets cut like right in half. It's very fun. Okay. [laughs] Anyway. Oh, and that guy is played by Connor Roy Succession! That's an important part.
G: Oh my god! That's so real. Connor Roy should get sawed in half.
C: Very cathartic.
G: Not only is this a Supernatural podcast, this is also a Freaky starring Kathryn Newton podcast. [C laughs] Before everything, what happened here? Like, based- 'cause this is not a ghost. The monsters are changelings. They're like, physical beings. How they do this?
C: I mean, they just shoved the guy, and we didn't- the camera work prevented us from seeing their hands.
G: Is that- is that what happened?
C: I assume so.
G: Damn. Alright. If you say so. [both laugh]
C: But yeah, you're right that there's some inconsistency. Because Katie also tells her mom that she doesn't like staying at her dad's because he's mean-
G: No! That was because, like, they did this whole thing, right, where it's like, "Anyone who gets in the way of food, aka mommy, and the kid gets killed."
C: Wait, I thought she wasn't swapped out until that night.
G: No, I think she was swapped out by then, and she was like, "I want to go back home because I need to feed."
C: Oh, okay. That makes sense.
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G: Yeah. So...
C: Yeah. Alright. So we're at some cafe/diner thing, and Sam is there on his laptop. So he's on the phone with Bobby, like, discussing some kind of demon dispelling ritual. So it's clear that he's still trying to get Dean out of the deal. He has this oldass translation technology pulled up. That's fun. But then Dean shows up, and Sam's automatically like, "Oh, I'm not doing anything. What? No, I am- I'm ordering a pizza. [laughs] Even though I'm sitting in a restaurant." Yeah, he's so bad at lying.
G: He is.
C: Like, why is he not better at lying by now?
G: He is. I don't know. I think lying is an essential skill, and the fact that Sam has not developed it- I don't know. I will not armchair psychology this guy, but like [laughs], it's just so incredibly funny to me that he has not developed the art of lying.
C: Yeah. I guess, like, I've developed the art of lying because I lie to my parents all the time, but my sister doesn't ever. And like, she gets yelled at a lot because of it, but like, she still doesn't do it because she's like, “Whatever, they'll get over it.” So maybe he never developed it because he would always tell John the truth because he liked pissing John off or something. [laughs]
G: No, really. Like, yeah.
C: Yeah.
G: Do you think Sam is a people pleaser? Because that's where I was going with it. Like, if you're a people pleaser, you would be more prone to lying is like, what I was thinking. So I was thinking like, "Maybe Sam is just not that kind of guy." And like, he is that kind of guy sometimes to Dean, but I think that's only to Dean. Like, he's a different person for other people.
C: Well, yeah, I mean, I think that he tries to be polite.
G: Yeah, but that's different.
C: Yeah, right. So he fakes sincerity, and sometimes he lies about that. But yeah, I think that he doesn't know how to lie for anything other than trying to be polite. [G laughs]
G: Real. Go, Sam.
C: Yeah. The only lying he can do is like, faking sympathy for someone's husband's death.
G: Yeah, the only lying he can do is manipulating his face into something that looks like puppy dog eyes.
C: Yeah. What a king.
Yeah, so Dean calls Sam "Weirdy Mcweirderton" and then says, like, "Oh, like, I totally have a case in Cicero, Indiana. It's some guy who fell on his power saw. That's totally a case. Uh-huh." And Sam questions this, and Dean's like, “Okay, fine. Fine. [mock "bro" voice] I don't actually want to go to Cicero, Indiana to save people. I want to go there for some pussy, bro!” [G laughs] So yeah, so apparently, Lisa Braeden lives in Cicero, Indiana. And, okay, this is actually a very interesting lore, like, thing about Sam and Dean's life, because apparently, eight years ago-
G: Yeah.
C: Sam and John were finishing up a hunt alone, and then Dean went on a road trip, like specifically, he wanted to go to five states and five days.
G: What an interesting guys.
C: And, like, yeah, I would have liked this episode if there were like, some flashbacks incorporated, maybe.
G: Damn, yeah.
C: Because that's very interesting. [G laughs] I wonder what it was like to have Sam and John, like, alone, finishing up a hunt. Eight years ago, Sam would have been like, fifteen, and Dean would have been nineteen?
G: Yeah, nineteen/twenty. That age.
C: Yeah. Right. So I wonder if this was like, sort of Dean's birthday gift to himself or something. Like, “I'm like, twenty now, so that's a big deal."
G: "Let's party, baby!"
C: Yeah, "I deserve to have some time to myself or whatever." Yeah.
G: Fascinating to me that he was like- well, I mean he didn't do it because he stayed with Lisa for most of that five days, but like, fascinating to me that he was like, "You know how I would like to have a good time? It's by driving, when my entire life has been spent on the road."
C: Yeah. Like, do you not do five states, five days like, every day, Dean?
G: Yeah.
C: Yeah. I do like that he wanted to do a road trip on his little independent jaunt. I guess- is the freedom just not having to take care of Sam or John during the road trip?
G: Yeah, maybe it's the being alone that's good.
C: Right. Oh, maybe- because, okay, Dean got Baby when he [G gasps] turned- what age?
G: I don't know. I think it was when John left the last time.
C: Oh, okay.
G: So maybe he didn't bring Baby this time,
C: I mean, he didn't drive the monster truck on his road trip, though, I'm assuming. Like, John had to-
G: They probably had other cars.
C: Yeah, okay, right. It would have been nice if it was like, he got Baby, and he was like, "Okay, I'm gonna go on a trip now with her." But yeah, you're right. I think that doesn't match up with the timeline.
G: Yeah.
C: Okay, right. I would like to know more about this specific thing, because Dean like, never leaves the family, and Sam and John alone is not a good combination. Ugh. Poor Sam, like, fifteen years old, on a case alone with John. Ugh. Alright.
Yeah, so Dean says that "Yeah, I didn't make those five states because I spent most of my time in Lisa Braeden's loft." Because apparently she was a yoga teacher, and it was "the bendiest weekend of his life." [G laughs] And he also tells Sam that this is his "dying wish." He's fucking unbearable.
G: This is the part where I was like, "I completely understand why Crystal wanted to crush this guy's skull. He is kind of annoying."
C: Yeah, I don't- he's just doing this weird little smirk thing the whole time that just gets on my fucking nerves. [G laughs]
G: It's his face, his mannerisms, his everything, yeah.
C: His everything. Right. And, you know, Sam very rightfully is like, "You're getting a lot of dying wishes right now, Dean." And he's like, "Uh-huh!" And then he says, "I'm gonna be smiling after 24 hours with Gumby girl."
G: I don't- I don't know what that means. Did you look it up?
C: Yeah, so there's like a show called Gumby where the main character is like this clay, like green little figurine, so it's like a very stretchy guy.
G: Damn.
C: Yeah. And then yeah, and then Dean says, "Gumby girl. Does that make me Pokey?" And I thought that Pokey was just like-
G: A character.
C: - a word for like, hard? You know, like, when say, like, "they poked me," and that like means that they had sex with you using their penis. But yeah, I guess Pokey is a character from Gumby, and he was not just going like, "Huh. Am I hard now thinking about this?"
G: Ew! Ew! Crystal! Eww!
C: That's genuinely what I thought was happening! I didn't know that Pokey was a character! [G laughs]
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G: Alright. So they do this scene where like [C laughs], Dena drops Sam off a motel-
C: - And locks him in a bank vault. [G laughs]
G: Exactly. No. This time, he drops Sam off at a motel, and while Sam is getting his stuff, like, Dean is just driving off. You know, he's like in a rush.
C: Yeah.
G: He's so fucking annoying. But like, it's a funny scene. So it's fine. Anyway, we go to a house. Dean knocks.
C: How does he know where she lives? Is it phone books? Do phone books have addresses?
G: It would be wild if she still stayed at the same place.
C: Yeah. It would be wild if, as like, a nineteen year old, or whatever she was, she was a homeowner.
G: [overlapping] She had this house. Yeah. But Dean knows where she lives. Creep behavior, I would say. And he knocks, and Lisa opens the door, and is like, "Oh my god, Dean!" And they do this whole like, thing where Dean is like, "Eh-heh. I'm so fucking good at flirting, and this girl and I are gonna have sex for real." [C laughs] And Lisa's just like, "Bad time, dude. I don't want to be here."
C: "Why the fuck are you here?"
G: "Why are you here? What are you doing here?" And then, you know, Dean is just like, "I was just passing through. I know you love surprises." [C laughs] He's so annoying! But it's so funny.
C: What surprises could he given her in the space of five days?
G: Yeah. Anyway, Lisa says like, they're having a party, and Dean's like, "Oh, I love a party." [G laughs, C groans]
C: What is wrong with him? Take a fucking hint! [G laughing] Also, like, Lisa is like, gorgeous, and Dean's very ugly this episode [G laughs]. So like, I think my first note for this scene is, you know that K-pop tweet, where like, some girl like, has herself on a fake date with a K-pop guy, and someone quote retweeted with just like, "You're so beautiful, and he's so ugly." Like, my brain the entire time.
G: [laughs] No. Yeah. Anyway, they come in, and it's like, “Who's the party for?” And Lisa says, "Oh, it's for Ben, my son." Also, before this, they have this whole thing where it's like, "How long has it been?" And Dean is like, “It's been eight years going on nine years,” and that's like, foreshadowing. So Dean goes in, and it's like, “Oh, I have a kid named Ben." Lisa points at the kid, and the kid is literally opening a [C laughs] AC/DC CD or tape or something. [both laughing] And it's like, so we're supposed to be like- Also, he's wearing a very similar outfit with Dean.
C: Yeah.
G: And so we're supposed to think like, “Oh my god, that's his fucking son!” [C groans] Because he's wearing the same outfit.
C: I- what does Sera Gamble think is genetic? [G laughs] Does she think music taste is genetic?
G: It's so funny. [C sighs] It's so funny.
C: It is hilarious,
G: And also, we'll get into it when we get into it, but this kid is quite concerning as a child. [laughs]
C: Yeah, no, like I- [sighs] Who are the influences in his life that are doing this to him?
G: Yeah! Who are the influence in your life- and the way Lisa was like, "Hey, don't beat up that kid" like, suggests that she is a good mother.
C: Yeah.
G: And like, Ben, how would you think your mom would think if she heard you say "bitch" like, about people? Come on, Ben. [deepens voice] "You know what's- you know what's good about parties? [C screams] There's a lot of chicks in here. [C screams more]" And it's like, Ben, you are eight years old, buddy.
C: You are eight years old.
G: I have a sister who's turning seven, and I don't think she even knows the word "bitch."
C: No.
G: Yeah. Like, come on.
C: Come on,
G: Anyway, Dean asks how old the kid is, and Lisa goes, "He's eight." Ooh!
And yeah, Lisa sees a guest come in, and the guest is the mom from earlier and her kid. And so she excuses herself while Dean-
C: Yeah, and Phil Sgriccia does it so that she's like, walking at the camera, and like you get a cleavage shot for a second.
G: [laughs] Yeah. Phil is, you know. He has priorities. He said, "Lighting? We don't give a fuck. But, you know, a shot where she's walking towards the camera and we can see her cleavage, amazing." [laughs]
C: Right. "We blew the entire lighting budget on paying Cindy Sampson extra to let us do this cleavage shot." [G laughs]
G: Yeah, exactly.
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C: So like, while Dean's looking at the cake, we hear like, these two women on lawn chairs start gossiping, and I- [sighs].
G: Horrible.
C: Sera Gamble presumably knows women in her life [G laughs], is a woman in her own life, has had conversations with women in her life-
G: [laughing] - with other women, yeah.
C: What is prompting this kind of writing? So yeah, so the women are like, [gossipy tone] “Oh my god, did you hear her say 'Dean'? Like, oh my god, like, that's Dean. You don't know about Dean? The- they're literally talking like this. The Dean? 'Best night of my life' Dean?" I- What- what-? He's not good at sex, you guys. [G laughs] Like, I know it. I just-
G: [laughs] He has never fucked in his-
C: All his sex has been a one-night stand. Like, you don't get- 'cause every person is different, like, you don't get time like, understanding what people like in that short amount of time. You don't get good at communication and like, emotional openness during sex in that amount of time.
G: Well, maybe they just matched really well. How about that? What if they were a very good match?
C: Yeah. God.
G: Also, I feel like, you know, she's a yoga instructor, and she's very bendy. Cool. What is Dean offering?
C: Yeah, what is Dean offering?
G: Dean has never stretched in his life. What is he offering?
C: Yeah, the only bits of like, Dean having sex that we've seen are in "Route 666," where, like, Cassie was doing a great job, I don't know what he was contributing, besides lying there and looking pretty, and then [laughing] when he was jogging in place in the window-
G: And going, "Whoo-hoo!"
C: [laughing] And going "Whoo-hoo!" Ugh. Maybe Lisa, just like, has a Mario kink, and like, Dean, was the only one who was willing to make video game jumping sounds the whole time during sex. [laughs]
G: Yeah.
C: Yeah, okay. And then she says something very concerning. She says they had this "crazy, semi-illegal"- blah-blah-blah.
G: Yeah. What does that mean?
C: Right, what does that-? So my first thought is like, "How old is Lisa supposed to be?" 'Cause Dean's twenty by now, so like, he's not the one who's like, recently, like, not legal anymore. So I was like, "Okay, so maybe Lisa was like, just eighteen." And then I looked it up, and the age of consent in Indiana is sixteen. So.
G: Well, I hope she didn't become a mother that early.
C: Yeah. Yeah.
G: That would have been very difficult for her.
C: Also, what kind of sixteen-year-old can be a yoga instructor? [laughs] Don't you need licenses for that?
G: [laughs] No, I think this was like, trespassing kind of semi-illegal,
C: But he said that he spent most of the time in her loft, so.
G: Yeah, maybe she didn't own it. [laughs]
C: Yeah, sure, okay. Yeah. 'Cause my second thought was like, trans Lisa and sodomy laws, but then Indiana got rid of those in 1976, so it's not that either. So yeah, probably just trespassing.
I think that trans Lisa is the best interpretation of this entire episode. Like Dean's like, "Is that mine?" And she's like, "No. I watched that biker dude carry him to term." [G laughing]
G: Dean was just not paying attention.
C: Dean was just not paying attention. He was just so fucked out that, like, he forgot about whatever she had going on down there. Or she had a really good bottom surgeon, and, like, she impregnated that biker guy before she had the bottom surgery. [G laughs]
G: [laughing] It was complicated, you guys.
C: [laughing] It's a really complicated situation, you guys. I will bend the rules of reality to make this work.
Yeah, so Dean comes over and says, “Hi!” And they're all like, [both, in simpering voices] "Hii, Dean."
G: Ew! Ew!
C: "Heyy." What? Ew. Ew.
G: Stop it.
C: Stop!
G: Oh, wait, we have Dean have sex another time.
C: When?
G: With the actress.
C: Oh, yeah.
G: And he seemed pretty decent when that was happening. But we didn't see him have sex, though.
C: Yeah, we just saw her seem happy afterwards.
G: Yeah.
C: Yeah. Well, he was only good because he'd watched her a lot in all her movies, [G laughs] so he sort of knew her by then and what got her responsive. [G laughs]
G: No! Horrible thing.
C: I mean, all of her terrible B movies probably had terrible sex scenes in them at least.
G: Noo.
C: So now we get like, the worst scene that's ever happened in Supernatural. [G laughs]
G: Incredibly funny scene.
C: He wanders over to Ben, who's like, just standing on the side and watching a bouncy house, and like, they have like this like, "What's up?" "What's up with you?" exchange, so it's like, "Look, Ben's a man's man. Like, he understands not being emotionally available." And then, like, there's like a mom and her child that walks by and then the two of them- like Dean checks out the mom and-
G: [laughing] Ben checks out the kid! Noo! No. No.
C: - at the same time. What the fuck. And then they like, eat like, a bite of cake simultaneously and in the same way.
G: That one's cute.
C: Yeah, that one was kinda fun.
G: But that doesn't make him his child!
C: I know! Why does Sera Gamble think-? God. Yeah. So yeah, Dean's like, “Cool birthday party.” And Ben's like, "Dude. It's so freaking sweet. And this moon bounce? It's epic. You know who else thinks they're awesome? [both] Chicks. It's like hot chick city out there." And then like, the little chest slap. I- [sighs] so. So.
G: Eight years old. What grade level is eight years old? Grade two?
C: Two or three?
G: Jesus Christ, man.
C: I- right, so like, this- So like, okay, like, in my short story class in high school, someone- like, this girl was like writing a story about this ten-year-old who has a crush on his babysitter, and she and the teacher, who are both women, were thinking about ways to make the story funny, and they were like “Oh, I think he should knock over a pile of CDs so that she has to bend over to pick them up.” So they're like, talking about this, and then they ask some guy in the class, they're like, “Hey, you're a man. Like, if you were a ten-year-old who had a crush on your babysitter, what would you do? Would the CD thing be something?” And he just looked at them, and he was like "Dude, no. He's ten." [laughs] And that is my entire feeling about this. Like, dude, no. He's eight. I feel like a lot of people just think that, like, men and boys are just-
G: Yeah.
C: - extremely sexual beings, like, all the time, and that this starts at a super early age, which is why people look at like like male, like, babies, and go like, "Look at that ladykiller!"
G: Yeah, "He's such a womanizer." Like, fuck off, dude.
C: Yeah, like, you're being fucking weird! Like, this isn't how children are!
G: Yeah, leave the kids alone.
C: Leave the kids alone. Let the kids be alright.
G: Yeah.
C: And I feel like Sera Gamble is very guilty of this.
G: Wait, were you like, in an all girls school? What's your deal?
C: No.
G: No? So like, you were exposed to being with boys in third and second grade.
C: Yeah.
G: They did not-
C: I mean, I did learn what boobs were by second-grade boys talking about them on Kim Possible, so sometimes, boys can be sort of like this [laughs], but-
G: I don't- [sighs] Yeah. My first recollection of like, boys being assholes is- you know, assholes as in this kind, you know, is like, fourth grade. So like, I don't- I don't know. Maybe we're just in a more conservative environment. [laughs] Maybe it was the Catholic school vibe.
C: That's true. Yeah. So like, I'm not saying no boys could be like this, but like, I feel like those guys were clearly posturing.
G: I think that's more of an environment, you know.
C: Yeah, that too.
G: It's not something you inherit. That's not something you inherit.
C: The boys in my second grade classes had YouTube. Ben doesn't have YouTube. I don't know where he would be getting any of this from.
G: Yeah, like who is he talking to?
C: Like, he's not on the iPad. Who is he talking to? Right like, the only theory I could come up with is like, well, Lisa says that she has like, a type for like, biker guys, so like maybe she had a few like, temporary boyfriends that Ben picked up cues from, and they weren't very good. But I feel like Lisa like at least said that like, after she became a parent, she re-prioritized. So I don't think that the biker guys were around then if she was sleeping with them. So yeah, I don't know where he'd be getting all of this.
G: Yeah. Sad! Well, there's other kids. [both laughing]
C: Changeling Ben was an improvement. [G laughs]
G: Exactly.
C: So Ben literally goes, “Look out, ladies! Here comes trouble!” And then goes into the bouncy house. And it's like, if I was a mother of a daughter and I knew this kid, I wouldn't let that child go to this kid's birthday party. [laughs] If like, this is what he's like all the time and like, they've been over for playdates so the moms know what the kid is like. How does he have guests at his birthday party?
G: I don't know.
C: Did Lisa have to bribe them? Like, this kid should be friendless. [G laughs]
G: It's just- It's so concerning- like, I don't know. The whole time I was watching this, I was like, "I'm worried."
C: Yeah.
G: 'Cause, again, like, I have, like, you know, kids, I have kids in my life. So like, what even goes on? What is the reality of the situation? I think maybe a part of it is that in the Philippines, we are just beginning to have face-to-face classes again, so my little sister has never had a face-to-face class.
C: Aww.
G: She's about to start tomorrow! Hee! Anyway. Maybe that's why my little sister's very like, unaware of these kinds of things. But I would now worry, like, what are they learning? Like, what is she gonna learn when she goes to school? I'm becoming that kind of like, helicopter parent. [C laughs]
C: Yeah. I get it. So- wait, okay, there's like, this zoom-in on Dean’s face where he's like-
G: The "Oh, shit," yeah yeah yeah.
C: - the doing math inside your head sort of thing. But he just looks like he's genuinely grieving, honestly.
G: [laughing] Noo.
C: Or maybe that was just me projecting. [laughs]
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G: Okay, so back to Lisa, who is now talking to the mother that we were saying earlier didn't have a name. And she, the mother, is, you know, quite- she looks not alright, which is understandable, because her ex-husband just died. And Lisa is asking like, "How are you?" blah blah blah. She was about to say something, and she goes, "Never mind." Lisa presses, and then she goes, “Oh, I think my daughter is different. Like, I think this is not my daughter.” And of course, this is a very alarming thing to hear, to say, everything. And so Lisa is like, “I know you're grieving, but you can't speak like that. We're gonna get you help. It's gonna be fine.”
C: Yeah. Lisa's very likable here.
G: Yeah, Lisa's very likable.
C: I think that Lisa is a very likable character in general. She is a member of the Andreaverse, but she does feel more real than most of the women Sera Gamble writes.
G: Yeah. She- [laughs] Now I'm thinking about the fact that she saw her imitation son like, just like glow into a burn-
C: [laughing] And immediately-
G: - and she was like, "Let me give you a kiss, Dean!" [C screams] And like, girl.
C: My god.
G: At least they have history, innit? Like, at least they have history, so like, it's understandable
The mom gets offended that Lisa reacted like that, and so she takes her kid and goes out. And then Dean comes in, and is like, “Oh, hey. You know, just wondering [C laughs]... you know, he's turning eight. You and me, eight years ago... So..." And Lisa is like, "You're not asking me if he's yours, aren't you?" And Dean's like, "[scoffs] No, not at all. [pause] Is he though?" [both laughing] And Lisa is like, very startled, slams the oven. And she goes, "No." And Dean's like, "Okay, okay, right, yeah." And then he notices, you know, what's going on with Katie and her mom, and he's like, "Oh, what's wrong with your friend over there?" And this is where the exposition starts. She's been through a lot, blah blah blah, and Lisa says there's been a lot of bad luck in the neighborhood lately, not just with the power saw, 'cause apparently, other things have also been happening in the neighborhood that never even made it to the paper.
C: Yeah. Okay, also, like, while this is happening, Dean looks out at Ben, and he has this girl backed against a pole-
G: Yeah! Ew!
C: He has like, one hand on the wall, he's like leaning at her and talking.
G: Noo. Ew!
C: Like, imagine being a child actor directed to do these things.
G: [laughing] Exactly.
C: I would die on the spot.
G: [laughing] Ugh, I hate this so much.
C: Yeah.
G: 'Cause like, I had a grade school boyfriend [C laughing], and he would do this to me [C screams], and I hated it every single time. I was like, "Get away from me. Stop cornering me against the wall. I hope you die." [C laughing] I hated that guy so much. Like, I fucking hated him. And- God. I don't know why. Yeah.
C: God. Yeah.
G: Recently- we talked recently, and he told me like, he still prays for me, [laughing] which is so funny! [C screams] So that my uh- that's my puppy love experience.
C: "Dear God in heaven, [G laughing] let me back Grey against the wall again. Thank you, amen."
G: Amen. [laughs]
C: Oh, god. So now we get back to Sam, who looks so good this episode. 'Cause we start on him on his laptop, and it's just his hands, and his sleeves are rolled up-
G: This diner looks exactly like the diner we saw at the beginning that for a second I was like, "Wait, they're back to where they came from? What happened?" And apparently, it's a different diner.
C: That's true. Yeah, right, because they're in Indiana now, but I feel like it is the same set.
G: Yeah, they literally reused the set. They were like, "Sam, sit on the other side." They were like, "Jared, you know what we could do to make this set look different is you sit on the opposite booth." [C laughing] And Jared was like, "Yeah, very cool, bro."
C: Yeah. "Great direction."
G: And then Phil Sgriccia was like, "You're not gonna be that kind of actor, are you?" [both laughing] Wait, do you know about that one?
C: No, wait, what is that?
G: No, because, like, apparently Bob Singer- Robert Singer- every time an actor asked him about a directing choice, he would respond, “You're not gonna be that kind of actor, are you?”
C: Noo! [laughs]
G: Yeah. And he did it to Jensen, he did it to Misha, he did it to Rob Benedict.
C: Huh.
G: Which is so funny. Robert Singer was- you're literally a director, Robert. [both laughing] Maybe he hates his job.
C: Yeah.
G: And you know what? It shows. [both laugh]
C: Every one of those zooms was a cry for help. It was an attempt to get himself fired.
G: Exactly.
C: So yeah, Sam's doing research. And then someone sits across from him.
G: Whoo!
C: And it's Ruby!
G: Oh my god.
C: Oh my god.
G: She is so pretty! Her hair, the way they style her hair, love it. It's like, very messy, swept to the side. She looks so good. I get that like, Ruby 2.0 was played by Jared's eventual wife, and so they had insane chemistry, and that's why people like them more. But I think I'm beginning to like Ruby 1.0 a lot more.
C: More? Mmm, alright.
G: No? Am I wrong?
C: I mean, maybe I will end up liking Ruby 1.0 more. But yeah, I mean Ruby 1.0 doesn't have any blood drinking scenes, so.
G: [sighs] Honestly, I'll be honest with you-
C: [crestfallen] Noo! What are you gonna say? [G laughs]
G: No! No! No! [laughing]
C: You don't like the blood-drinking?
G: [laughing] No! I'm going to say, like, while watching this scene with Ruby in the diner, all I could think of was, "Imagine if they were endgame." And you, like, you crawl back to where they started, and it's the last scene we saw her in, and it's this scene. Like, how fucking amazing would that have been?
C: Yeah.
G: So like, I'm getting really attached, but like, attached in a way where I'm like, delusional that they're gonna be endgame. [both laugh]
C: You guys Ruby doesn't die at the end of season 4, I prommy.
G: She doesn't die at the end of season 4; she never betrays Sam, and if she did, she comes back in season 6 and has a redemption arc about it, and they fall in love for realsies. [C laughs] That's my- that's my hot take. That's my prediction of where Supernatural is going.
C: I think she should stay evil forever and betray him forever, and they should still be endgame. [laughs]
G: Oh my god, yes! [C laughs] They should like, be like the most toxic-ass "will they, won't they; they will, but they shouldn't have"-type relationship.
C: Yeah. I agree.
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C: So she is here, and there is this dramatic zoom in on Sam, and I think like, at this point I was like, "Who directed this?" But it was Phil.
G: [laughs] Yeah.
C: Yeah. So she's been following him since Lincoln, Nebraska, and she is just being very like, “I'm cool. I'm a cool girl, and I'm cool and mysterious-"
G: And she is! She is!
C: And she is, though, is the thing. She is. So she starts like, taking his fries and eating them. She's like, “These are amazing. It's like deep-fried crack! Try some.” I love the boldness of saying “try some” while eating someone else's food that they paid for with their fake credit card. Like, so true, Ruby.
So yeah, they have an exchange where Sam asks about the demon knife, she calls him a damsel in distress-
G: Yee! How romantic.
C: - yeah, so true- and won't tell him where she got it. She does this thing where she like, takes the ketchup bottle and squeezes like, a veritable ocean of ketchup into a plate. And then, when you see her using ketchup on the fries, she like, will dab the tiniest little corner of ketchup on each bite, so like, there's no reason that she needed to squeeze that much ketchup out. Sorry, I get really mad at people who overdo it on the ketchup and then have to throw it all away afterwards. Like, measure it out better, folks. So-
G: She's a demon! She's excused.
C: Yeah. So Sam asks why she's following him, and she says, “I'm interested in you.”
G: Ooh!
C: He says, "Why?" She says, "Because you're tall. I love a tall man."
G: Exactly. Me too, buddy.
C: Yeah. And then she says, “Well, there's also the whole Antichrist thing,” And Sam's very shocked that she knows about all this, but she's like, "Yeah, like, I know about the psychic kids and the yellow-eyed demon and all of that because I'm a good hunter." And I do think that- I am glad that they- that the jig is up on that by the end of this episode because I think that her performance is like-
G: Very demonic? [laughs]
C: Yeah, it's very unsettling and demonic and such, so they could not have strung this out for longer. But I can also see why you would believe her in the first place.
G: She could have just been a very cool hunter.
C: Yeah. Just very, very cool. Yeah, so she says, like, "Okay, like, I know that he's dead now, so his plans for you may be sort of moot, but you're still special. You're a pretty big deal, after all that business with your mom." Dun-dun-dun!
G: Ooh.
C: Sam says, "What about my mom?" and Ruby is like, "Well, I should have asked her last night. Ayy!" [G laughs] But yeah. So she says that, you know, "Something happened with her friends. Oh, you don't know about that? Well, you have a little bit of catching up to do, my friend." And then she starts writing her phone number on his palm, which is like, so cool and sexy of her. [both] Yeah.
G: I need to do that. Like, I need to meet someone in like, a party or something and write my number on their palm. And I'll be like, "That was a Supernatural reference," [both laugh] and they never call me back.
C: Yeah, exactly.
So she says, like, "You should like, look into your mom's friends and then give me a call. And also, by the way, like, you know that there's a case in this town, right?" And then she just turns and leaves. Because she's so cool and mysterious, [laughs]
G: Ooh.
C: Ooh.
G: And then Dean calls Sam and goes, "Hey. There's a case in this town." Whoo!
C: Whoo!
G: Pretty cool, honestly. Like that.
C: By the way, like, salt bad for demons. Salt on fries. Thoughts?
G: No, nothing. [laughs] I have no thoughts.
C: Okay.
G: No. I don't know. What is the intensity that you should be salted for you to feel the salt.
C: Yeah, I guess I don't know. I feel like probably, the fries are just spicy to her?
G: Yeah, maybe. Yummy.
C: Like, the way pineapple is? It probably adds to the experience.
G: Yeah, it has a bit of a tang.
C: Yeah.
G: It's like ranch dressing. [laughs]
C: Is that tangy?
G: I've never had ranch in my life.
C: [laughing] No! [G laughs]
G: So, who knows?
Anyway, Sam and Dean, still continuing their call. Dean says that, you know, there's lots of people who fall out of ladders and drown in jacuzzis and blah blah blah.
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G: So we go to the mom from earlier, and she's sleeping, and she has like a book open, and she's sleeping on the couch. And then she wakes up, and she sits up, and the moment she turns her head, the kid is there, and the kid is going, "I want to play, Mommy! Play with me, Mommy!" And it's like, you know, very creepy. And she's like, "Okay, sure." And then she stands up, and Katie hugs her, and goes like “I love you, too.” But as the mom looks up, she sees in the mirror that Katie is a different person. Like, looks different. I don't know how to describe it. How would you describe it? She's gray.
C: She's like, gray, and her skin looks like raw flesh of shrimp or something. [laughs]
G: Yeah. I'll be- I don't know, maybe I'll cut this off, but like it really frustrates- not frustrates, but like, makes me uncomfortable when, like, something is portrayed as horror, and the way they do it is they alter the skin in this way.
C: Yeah.
G: Because I have a skin disorder, right? And [laughing] sometimes my skin does look like that. I mean, not like this specifically, but like, I- I remember when I was like thirteen, so like, twelve, honestly, like I was twelve, maybe going thirteen, and I was like, in a school bus, and then, like, I was like, half asleep, so I was like, lying my head down like my bag, and like, I could hear the whole bus talking about my skin-
C: Ah, fuck.
G: - going, "What happened to this person? Like, what happened to their skin? Did they get burned?" Like, blah blah blah. And that was like, very eye-opening. It was like, "Oh, okay, this is what people think." And I guess seeing it in horror a lot is also like, "Oh, okay. Cool." Like, I have been told indirectly by people that I look like my skin's been deep-fried. Like, that does things to your psyche, you know? And like, yeah, so seeing it here, like this is the part in the episode where I was like, "I don't want to look at this. I don't want to see this. I don't want to-" blah blah blah. But I understand that it's just part of the genre. It's just whatever.
C: Well, yeah, but it is a problem-
G: But I guess this is the part where I tell people that, like, ableism in horror is a thing, and you should like, pay attention in what is portrayed as scary, and what you perceive as scary, because, like, some of these things are actual traits that actual people have. So yeah.
C: Yeah.
G: Wow, what a tangent.
C: But you're right, though.
G: But I felt like it was very important. I'm right, though. [laughs]
C: You're right, though.
G: And like, I think it's better to hear it from me than like, you know.
Anyway, the mom gets freaked out by this because, like, "Oh, no!" She already thinks that it's not her child, and then she sees this, and she's like, "Okay, this sucks." Yeah. And she goes-
C: I would watch the movie that's just like, Katie and her mom.
G: It's so interesting.
C: It's so much more compelling than anything else in this episode except for Ruby.
G: It's so interesting because, like, I'm sure there are cases of like, trauma- when someone goes through for a traumatic situation where they were like, this kind of stuff happens like, psychologically, right? So like, the horror of it is double. Because who knows if you're telling the truth? Who knows if it's really happening? And then, later on, there's a scene where she tries to kill the kid, right? And like, the amount of grief and like, self-doubt, and like, just like, horrific feeling that she must have experienced in that moment of like, uncertainty and everything would have been very compelling to see. And we did see it in a way. But like, you're right that in a movie format, this would have been very good.
C: Yeah, it would have. Yeah, I just like horror a lot as like a way of like, portraying how awful a real life situation is where, like, the real life situation has been so normalized that we don't- you can't understand how awful it actually feels until you have like, monsters in it, and I feel like this storyline could do that very well, and it does do it pretty well in the limited space it has.
G: Yeah, like we see Mom's- because she doesn't have a name- [C laughs] stress very well, so that's fun.
C: Yeah, she's a good actress. And like, I feel like she would be a better actress in a movie as well. So-
G: Give this woman an acting role in like, a good budget of horror film.
C: Yeah.
G: Real.
C: Real.
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C: So Sam is now interviewing a woman in a house.
G: He looks good! He looks so cute.
C: Yeah. So he's actually dressed up for this, to be an insurance agent. So he has this like, orange checkered tie, like a white checkered shirt, and then this gray suit jacket. And it's just- it's a very fun fit. I like it. He looks very cute. So yeah, he's being a life insurance agent, and he's asking about this woman's husband's death where he like, fell off a ladder. And the only person there was their daughter, Dakota. And we see Dakota, and she's like, creepy as shit. She's just like staring out at them. And like, I mean this is like, a valid grief response, but yeah, it's supposed to be creepy. And also, Sam notices that there's blood on parts of the house.
G: Well, something that looks akin to blood, but it's like- I was thinking like, it's so obvious. if it was blood, they would have wiped it down already. Like, that would have been terrifying to be like, "Oh, you fell down the ladder, and you crushed your skull so hard blood splattered everywhere, and then nobody wipes it off." [C laughs]
C: Yeah.
G: So like, I think we were supposed to assume that like, maybe it's not blood.
C: Yeah, maybe it's not. But it is, I think.
G: No, it's not!
C: Wait, what? What is it? Oh, wait, the dirt!
G: It's like fucking clay something.
C: Oh, yeah! Oh, yeah, okay. Right. You're right. Okay. So it's not blood. It is just some red stuff.
Yeah, so as the mom turns around, Sam notices that there's like, this like, oval, like, bruise/scar on the back of her neck. There's a lot of blood on the surface of it, and there's like, little teeth marks in it. So yeah. Creepy.
G: Creepy!
C: Meanwhile, in Katie's house, her mom is making her the most burnt [G laughs] grilled cheese I've ever seen.
G: [laughing] She did not put any butter on this pan! There is- it's not even golden-
C: I don't even know if it's grilled cheese. I think it might just be two pieces of bread, like, on a hot pan with no oil in it.
G: No, exactly. It must have been. No oil, no butter, no nothing. No grease. There's no- nay a drop of grease on that pan. It's just rawdogging-
C: Have we considered Kate isn't a changeling? Have we considered that this is just what happens when all you eat is burnt bread? [G laughs]
G: Exactly.
C: Yeah, so she starts feeling like, the back of her neck hurting, so like, she gives Kate the sandwich and then goes into the bathroom to check it out. And like, she is clearly not having a good time. Like, she is on the verge of breakdown already, and she looks in the mirror, and she sees that same mark on her neck, and like, she freaks. And meanwhile, like, Katie is like pounding on the door, being like "Mommy, let me in. Let me in. Let me in." Like, it is forceful, it is scary, it is scary.
G: Yeah. I mean [laughs], you have heard my little sister knock when I'm recording this podcast [both laughing], and it sounds exactly the same.
C: So true.
G: No, it doesn't. My sister is very polite.
C: Yeah, she's very cute.
G: But yeah, while I was watching this episode, I was like, "I think maybe kids are just like that." [laughing]
C: Yeah, I think it's more maybe the force of which I think- I feel like the door wouldn't shake that much for like a regular seven-year-old or however old she's supposed to be.
G: For a normal kid, yeah.
C: And she's like, being like, "Give me a minute, please!" And like, the tension is building, and you're like afraid the door is just gonna bust down, and she's like, super about to cry, and then we hear the doorbell, and like Katie goes silent. And she goes out, and we see one of the women who was talking about Dean at the party-
G: Ugh.
C: Ugh. Yeah, is she changed by now?
G: I'm not sure. Maybe, maybe not. But we know she's doing her job, and her job is she's a Cicero Plains person, 'cause she's wearing a jacket with a patch of that on it. [laughs] I thought it was incredibly funny.
C: Yup. So, right, I figured that she was changed by now, so like, the like presence of the parent changeling, is what calmed Katie down.
G: Yeah, maybe so.
C: Yeah. So she's checking in, she's like, giving them all a gift basket, and she's like, "Well, Katie seems okay, you know, considering everything." And the mom was like, Y"ep, she's fine. We're fine. Everything's great." And then this woman starts trying to get her to sell the house.
G: Wild.
C: My god. Her ex just died. She's all like, "We at Cicero Realty would really like to, you know, like be involved in like helping you in this process," like Jesus. Yeah. And you know, the mom is like, "Not a good time. Goodbye!" And she like, slams the door shut. But, you know, this does not fix her problems because she is still inside with Katie, who is now demanding ice cream.
G: Yeah.
C: Yeah. Do you want to take-
G: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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G: So it's Dean. And while walking back to his car, he notices that Ben is forlorn in the middle of a park. Why is his car in the middle of a park? [both laughing] Why? Why is it here?
C: I don't know.
G: I don't even know what's happening here, but like, he's in the middle of the park, and Ben is like sitting, and then he goes too bad, and he's like, "Oh, what's wrong, buddy?" And then he notices that he has a DS bag. Oh my god, DS namedrop! Ben is a DS kid. And for that alone, I forgive him for everything. [laughs]
C: Would Ben play Ace Attorney?
G: Ben would not.
C: Yeah, I didn't think so.
G: You know what? You know what?
C: What?
G: Miles Edgeworth is a misogynist, so maybe that's where he got it from. [both laughing]
C: God, you're right! Miles Edgeworth every day wakes up and says, "You know who goes to the courtroom? Hot chicks." That's why.
G: Noo! [laughs] Miles Edgeworth is like the type of guy who's like, so misogynist, he becomes gay. [laughs] So he would not say that like, "chicks are going to the courtroom," but he does call his girl- he has like, a defense attorney going against him once, and the defense attorney is Mia Fey, who is a woman, and he calls her a bimbo. [laughing]
C: Noo.
G: Yeah. So like, a slay. [laughing] He's thriving as a misogynist. Anyway, that's where- I think Ben would call women bimbos. He is that kind of guy.
C: Yeah.
G: And he learned it from Miles Edgeworth.
But yeah, he says like, "Oh, this kid borrowed my DS, but like, he won't give it back." And Dean's like, "Do you want me to go get it for you?" And he was like, "No! [overlapping] Only bitches send grownups!" What is wrong with this kid?
C: Literally, what is wrong with this kid?
G: I feel so sad. He's so sad.
C: And like, the fucking weirdest thing is that Dean hears this, and he's like, "Wow. Ben's a cool kid. He gets it."
G: "Wow. I'm so proud of this guy, like-"
C: That is not the correct reaction to hearing an eight-year-old say that!
G: Yeah, and Dean was like, "You're not wrong." And then Ben is like, "Yeah, and I'm not a bitch." [C screams] And I'm like, I'm so sad that this kid is probably gonna grow up with so much like, fucking toxic masculinity going on for him.
C: Yeah.
G: Like, so sad.
C: Well, maybe when Cas wipes his memories [both laughing] he also wipes a little of his personality.
G: [laughing] He turns him into the changeling type of guy. [C laughs]
Dean looks at the kids, and he points at one of the kids, and he goes, "Is that Humphrey? Like, the guy who needs to get off the burgers?"
C: Jesus.
G: And then they have a little laugh about the fatphobia, that Dean just exhibited.
C: Yep.
G: And it's like, Dean, you fucking hypocrite. You literally eat burgers with onions all the fucking time.
C: Yeah. You're not talking about this guy's diet and health, you're just talking about his appearance. You're like, "Oh, because I'm a pretty boy, and I still get girls, and my metabolism is whatever, it's okay for me to eat burgers, but I am going to moralize everything that this literal child eats [G laughs] just to make my fake son feel better, and also instill fatphobia in him further."
G: Real. So like, they have a little conversation off-screen ,but we cut to Ben like, going to the kids, and they're all like, you know, your typical like, how Hollywood portrays bullies.
C: Uh-huh. They look like younger versions of like the bullies in It the movie.
G: Never watched it, never will. [both laugh]
C: Yeah, it's not that good.
G: That's so mean! That's so me-[burps] sorry, did you hear me burp? [laughs]
C: Yeah.
G: That sounded demonic. But excuse me, and I've never watched it, and that's so mean of me to say that I never will. Maybe one day.
C: I don't recommend it.
G: Alright, then I never will.
C: Yay!
G: He's like, "Hey, give that back to me," and the kid is like, [valley girl] "Oh, then fucking get it." [both laughing] Wait! He didn't say it like that! [still laughing] He did not say "Fucking get it," he said- [laughing] Wait. No, he says like, "Okay, take it back, then." And then, everyone's like, "Oh, he's such a loser. He won't even try to get it from me because we're all stronger than him," blah blah blah. And Ben turns away, and they all laugh, and then Ben turns around and kicks him in the nuts! And then he crouches on the floor in pain, and he gets his game- like, Ben gets his game back. And he goes to Dean, and they're all like, smiling, and thumbs upping each other. And as he's about to sit down, Lisa comes in and is like- what did she say? [overlapping] "Benjamin Isaac Braeden. What's gotten into you?" And Ben is like, "He stole my game!" and Lisa-
C: Sorry, Benjamin Isaac is such a Biblical name. Good for Lisa.
G: I know. Catholic-core.
G: So like, Lisa is like, "Since when do you kick people?" And then she looks over and notices Dean for the first fucking time. [both laugh] Okay? And she was like, "Did you tell my son to beat up that kid?" And Dean was like, "Somebody had to teach him to go kick a bully in the nuts." And Lisa is like, "Who asked you to teach him anything?"
C: Soo fucking true.
G: So true. And he was like, "Yeah, relax."
C: Jesus Christ.
G: And then- [laughs] I know. Lisa's like, "What are you still doing here? Leave us alone. Don't even fucking talk to us. We spent one weekend a million years ago. You don't know me. You have no business with my son." She's like- she's like, going off, and she's right to do it.
C: Yeah, this is very good of her.
G: Yeah.
C: Are we supposed to- like, I don't know. What are we supposed to feel about Lisa? 'Cause, like, I find her eminently likable, and, like, all of her emotional reactions to things realistic, but like, are we supposed to be like, annoyed at her? I can't tell.
G: No idea. I like her.
C: Yeah, I like her.
G: I mean, I don't know what the deal of Supernatural is with anything that they do.[laughs] So I don't know whether we're supposed to like her or not.
C: Right, yeah. What are you still doing here? Fuck off.
G: Yeah, what are you-? Yeah. And as they walk away, Ben like, comes back, and is like, "Wait!" And then he he runs to Dean and gives Dean a hug. And yeah. They leave. And Dean is like, "Oh my god. A kid just hugged me, and this kid might be my s-" He's like, going through it. And then he turns to his side, and three kids are fucking staring daggers at him.
C: Yup.
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C: So- oh god, this scene. [laughs] Okay.
G: Truly a scene.
C: What a scene!
Yeah, so Katie's mom, she's like, getting Katie in her car seat and getting in the car, and the whole time, Katie is like being very clingy, being like, "I love you most in the whole wide world, Mommy." Yeah. And then, in the rear view mirror, she sees Katie, and her face is like this gray skull face with like, empty eyes and some big sucking mouth.
G: Yeah.
C: Yeah. And you know, she's freaking out a lot, but she's like saying like, "Nothing's wrong, and yes, we're going for ice cream now," and like, she's crying as she drives the car to a lake. And she's shaking a lot as she like, puts the car on like, some automatic gear. And then she gets out, and she lets the car keep moving-
G: To the lake.
C: And it goes into the lake, and the whole time, Katie is just in the back seat, completely calm, looking at her until she disappears below the water. [overlapping] And the mom is like, crying by that time.
G: This scene is soo scary and like, sad, and like, every single emotion that they were going for in this scene, I think they achieved.
C: Yeah, it works.
G: Like, it's terrifying.
C: Yeah. I think the silence worked very well.
G: Yeah.
C: I think that this woman is a very good actress, yeah.
G: And the creepy- like the kid just looks back? Yeah, that was something. Also, the reason why my voice softened as I said that was because I was doing the motion [laughs], and my mic is in front of me.
C: Yeah. Yeah. And like, I know that the kid's gonna reappear, so like, and I feel like we're supposed to know the kid's gonna reappear, so like, all the scenes after are just like building tension being like, "God, when is she gonna pop up? What's gonna happen?" I guess I assumed that she was just gonna appear behind the mom, but I think what they did was better.
G: Yeah, which is-
C: She goes home, and she's like, still crying and like, yeah, it's a bad time. And then she looks in the kitchen, and there's like, this puddle of water on the ground, and it's dripping, and then she looks up, and Katie is there.
G: Yeah!
C: And she says, "Hi, Mommy. Can I have the ice cream now?" So good!
G: It's good! It is very good.
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G: So back in the motel, Dean enters, and Sam's like, "Something's wrong with the kids," and Dean is like, "Yeah, I bet." And they talk about changelings. So apparently, changelings can mimic children, and like, the logic is they feed on the mom, and every single person that gets in the way between their food and the changeling like, gets killed in the process. And like, they grab the kid and like, get the kid underground or something. I don't know. It's just lore dump.
C: Yeah. I do think it's hilarious that they were like, "Well, we can't kill the children, soo, uh, they're just underground for uh... reasons? Yeah."
G: Yeah, we can't have child death over here, you guys. So they're underground. Also, like, the changeling can only be killed by fire.
C: Yeah.
G: So, like, Dean does this funny bit where he's like, "Yeah, let's just kidnap the kids and then torch them in the front lawn. I think that will work really well for everyone," [C laughs] which I thought was funny. Dean realizes that like any kid in the neighborhood is vulnerable. So he goes, "Let's check on these people I know, Lisa and Ben." Because yeah. And Sam was like, [dramatically] "We can't fucking do that, Dean! Th-the time left is so small!" [both laughing]
C: [laughing] Exactly like that.
G: Exactly like that. [laughs] That is what Sam sounds like to me. And Dean was like, "No, no, no, this is important." So they go to Lisa's and Ben's.
C: Yup. And he rings the doorbell, and Lisa is like, "Dean, what the fuck are you doing here?" And he's like, "Well, I wanted to bring Ben like a birthday present. Here, like, I'm giving you a credit card. Just like, go, right now, away from this house-"
G: To Six Flags!
C: To Six Flags at midnight, you know.
G: I was confused because I thought Six Flags was Five Guys [C laughing], so I was like, "Wait, he's telling them to go get a hot dog? What's going on?" Then I looked up Six Flags, and I was like, "Oh, no no no. I'm thinking of Five Guys." Six Flags is like- I don't know. What's Six Flags? It's like a Knott's Berry situation?
C: It's an amusement park. Yeah, it has like rollercoasters and shit. And Lisa's like, "The name on this card is not Dean Winchester." And he's like, "Well, it'll work." And yeah, she's like, "You are being strange and weird. You are probably trying to rob the house while we're out, or something. Like, just go away." And, like, Ben comes down the stairs, and he's like, [creepily] "Mommy, what's wrong?" So, you know, he is not Ben anymore.
G: He's been changed.
C: Yeah, and he's like, "Make him go away, Mommy." And Dean's like, "I feel like something's up," and Lisa yells at him to get out. And then Dean also notices some more of the red stuff on a few of the window frames of the house.
So yeah, he goes back to Sam, and yeah, he's like, "Yeah, there's the red stuff on the windowsill, but it's not blood, and I think I know where the kids are."
G: Yeah.
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G: So they- he connects the dots like the kids are in this house that's like being built, and it has like, red dirt, so the red dirt, blah blah blah. And so they enter, and Dean goes to the basement and finds cages where a bunch of kids, and also the woman who was-
C: The realtor.
G: Yeah, the realtor woman, are locked up in the cages, and he's like, "Okay." And the first thing he does is go to Ben. [laughs]
C: I know! Fucking loser behavior.
G: He's like, "Let's ignore all of these fucking kids that I can immediately, like, I see them instantly in front of me, and look for Ben." It's like, come on, dude.
C: Come on, dude.
G: But okay, whatever.
C: Ben has been down there for like ten minutes.
G: Yeah.
C: Go find Katie first. She has been having a terrible time for like, a week.
G: Yeah. And he's like, "It's gonna be okay. I'm gonna get you out of here." And Sam is in like, the other side of the house. What is he even doing? And the woman, you know, the head- what's her name? They call her the mother, didn't they? The mother of the changelings. The mother changeling appears, and she's like, [nasal robot voice] "I'm gonna call the police!" [C laughs] Why am I putting on so many voices? [both laugh] Real, though. She was like, "I'm gonna call the police if you don't go," and Sam's like, "Okay, sure," and then takes the fire thing and blasts at her. But she disappears, so she doesn't die. Anyway, downstairs, Dean is like putting- like, he smashes the window to get the kids out.
C: Okay. So meanwhile, we are getting scenes of Lisa with changeling Ben. And yeah, Ben's doing the whole like, "play with me" thing, like, "I don't wanna go to bed. I wanna be with you, Mommy," and blah blah blah blah blah. And then he says, like, "I'm hungry." And yeah I this is because she hasn't gone to sleep yet. She's reading a book, and he needs to feed while she's asleep. Yeah. So she like, starts making him a mini pizza or something, and then she sees that in the glass, he has like the creepy gray skull face, and she freaks out.
G: Back to the house, Dean is like, trying to get the kids out, so he smashes the window to get them out, and like, he's trying to get them to climb out of the window but like, there's shards everywhere, so then Ben's like, "Here, take my jacket and use it to cover the bottom!" blah blah blah. And it's so forced that they were like, "Ben has the-" what do they call it? "the like, personality of a hunter or whatever." Yeah.
C: It's dumb. It's like, "He may have the misogyny genes, but he also has the hero genes."
G: He's eight years old! He's in second grade! Do you even have a consciousness then? [laughs] No, you do. I'm just joking. But like, I don't even remember anything from second grade other than being like, a stupid as fuck child.
C: Yeah, okay, he like, barely passes the mirror test. That's a lie; you pass the mirror test at like, six months old, but like, that's the same as eight years to me. [G laughs]
G: Exactly.
Anyway, like, Sam comes in and is like, "Oh, the mother changeling is here!" And then, like, this is the only time that Dean was like- this is the time when Dean was like, "Oh, yeah, there's also another person in there. Why don't you break the lock?" [C laughs] And it's like, Dean! What are you doing? And I get that the kids are the priority because they're kids, but like, at least unlock the fucking lock.
C: Yeah.
G: While the kids are being escaped out of the thing, the mother changeling comes in and is like, "I'm gonna eat ya." Yeah.
C: Meanwhile, back at Lisa's, right, so she saw his reflection. And she does a 180 really fast.
G: Yeah!
C: Like, does she like, believe in the supernatural very strongly already?
G: No idea.
C: Like how- how is this happening? Because, you know, for someone who told Fiona Apple like, "We're gonna get you help. Like you thinking your child is not your child is just the result of something psychological," she is very down to immediately say, "You're not my son to Ben." So yeah. So she is like, "Where is the real Ben?" And she tries to run out of the door, but then there's like these three other creepy kids blocking her, and Ben's like, "They don't want you to leave me, Mommy." And yeah, also, Katie's mom is having a terrible, terrible time. She's crying on the bathroom floor-
G: And Katie is bashing the door in-
C: Yeah, going "Let me in, let me in." Yeah. Not having a good time, these women. So in the house, we get this fight scene between the changeling mother and Sam and Dean. Right, Dean's like, "Ben! Get all the kids out of here!" And he does, because as an eight-year-old, he's super calm and a hero because that's just how he is, I guess. And yeah, eventually, Sam burns the changeling mother to death, and then magically, all the other changeling kids just disappear with her so that we didn't have to get the visuals of them burning children.
G: [laughs] Yeah, exactly.
C: What a copout. What a copout. They should have lined up all those kids on the lawn and burned them.
G: Yeah, exactly. They should have made the real kids burn their counterpart.
C: Yeah!
G: That would be such a good- the therapists of those children will have such a fucking good time.
C: [laughs] Yeah. [G laughs]
We don't see Fiona Apple again after this scene.
G: Yeah!
C: Which makes me sad. 'Cause it's like, you killed-
G: It's her story!
C: Yeah, it's her story, and it's like, how do you live in the same house as the child with the face of the monster that you tried to like, literally kill when you weren't even sure if it was a monster or not?
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G: Anyway, so Dean and Sam drive Ben to Lisa's house, and this is the only kid that we see reunite with their parent. Like, what did the other kids do? Like, how did their parents react?
C: I know!
G: "Why are you with these two randomasss lumberjack-looking men?"
C: Yeah. "You said you were locked in a cage underground? You said that this person's name is Dean Winchester, the guy wanted for murder and top of the FBI's wanted list? Get back here, what the fuck?" [both laugh]
G: Anyway, Lisa comes back and is like, "Ben! Are you okay?" And Ben completely like, moved on [C laughs], didn't even care about anything. It's like, "It's okay."
C: "That was so yesterday, Mom."
G: Yeah! And Dean tries to say that "I'll explain everything if you want me to, but you probably don't want me to be real, and the important thing is Ben's safe." And then, you know, they hug, and she invites Dean into the house while Sam is like, "I'll wait outside!" [laughs]
C: Also, maybe I was just reading this completely wrong, but it's like, they hug, and a second through the hug, Dean makes like, a little surprised face, and I read that as like, unexpected boner.
G: You're so mean to Dean. [C laughs] I think it's just a surprised face.
C: Why was there the delay then? [both laugh]
G: Well, maybe it is a surprise boner. Who would have thought? [C laughs] You, apparently.
C: Yeah. I think, 'cause at this point, I still didn't know that Pokey was a character. [G laughs] So Dean get- I thought that Dean getting surprise boners was a motif of this episode. [both laugh]
G: So yeah. As they come in, and it's like, Ben is on the table, he's playing with a car, and he's listening to music. And they really are hammering this fucking home.
C: Yeah.
G: Lisa is asking about the changelings and Dean is saying that, "You know, I never mentioned my job because it's this. The important thing is that Ben is fine," blah blah blah. And then he goes. "Okay, seriously, is he my kid? What's the deal with that?" And Lisa says she did a blood test.
C: Yeah. But like-
G: How?
C: With whose blood?
G: Yeah. With the biker guy's blood?
C: I guess?
G: So she knew he was the dad? Perhaps so. And she was like, "I had a type. He had a leather jacket, he had no address-" Me. [laughs] Who's gonna- [both laugh] I'm not gonna continue that joke.
C: Yeah. I do think it's very fun that Dean came over, and he was like, "Ben's just like me for real!" And Lisa was like, "Yeah, he's just like you and every single other guy I slept with that year. Get in line."
G: [laughs] Exactly. And then Dean's like, "Okay, that's good." And Lisa just looks at him and goes, "You look disappointed, dude." And he's like, "Well, stuff happened to me recently-"
C: Jesus.
G: "And now I'm like, 'What if I was a baby daddy, bro?'" [C laughs] He said like, "What am I gonna leave behind other than a car?" Which is like, people- I know people are like emotional over that line because he does die-
C: But the context is dumb.
G: Like, the context is so stupid. Like, "I wish I left you to be pregnant and raise a child by yourself." [C laughs]
C: Agh, but he's so Tom going off to jail about this. [G laughs]
G: Yeah. [laughing] He was like, "I need to spread my seed. I need to leave a legacy."
C: Yeah. I guess- I know that Dean cares a lot about blood family, but you know, I believe in separation of sperm and self [G laughs]. Like, gametes in general and self. Like-
G: You didn't even raise the kid.
C: Yeah, like you leaving behind like a child that shares your DNA is not really a legacy in any way. And I know this is the point of the episode, I think, but like, the tone of it is so not like, "Dean is going to die soon, and, like, thinking he has a son is making him like, reconsider his choices." It's like not any of that, so it's dumb. [G laughs]
G: Yeah. Lisa says like, "He's not your kid, but you did save his life. So that's a lot already," blah blah blah. And then he goes, "Well, if I was his father, I would have been so proud of him." [laughs]
C: God.
G: [laughing] Why are you not already proud of him? It's just an incredibly funny thing to say. Like if he said, "Even if I'm not his dad, I'm still proud of him, for-"
C: Well, he says, "I would have been proud to be his dad." So not quite what you're-
G: Ah, okay, okay. Yeah, I was misremembering. But I remember laughing when he said that. But anyway, he walks out, but Lisa follows him, and is like, "Dean!" and she kisses him, and she's like, "You're welcome to stay," And he goes, "No no no. I got a lot of work to do, and it's not my life. Like, this is not my life." And so he leaves!
C: I- What? Lisa, I know he like, saved your son's life, but he also taught him how to kick people- to beat people up. Like, he's not gonna be a good influence. Like, even if he would have been proud to be Ben's dad, Ben would be a worse person if Dean stuck around.
G: I think there is like, a gravity difference between kicking a guy in the nuts and saving people's lives, though [laughs], so like, I think she was considering that.
C: Alright, but like, well, so what? Keep him around for protection? Like, what's the reason?
G: Well, she likes him.
C: It seems like she was just doing this out of gratitude, which is not-
G: Oh yeah. This is the point where I bring up what I've been bringing up since 5ever, which is that it does make me uncomfortable when, like, the reward for being- for saving people's lives is those people's lives you saved being grateful for it, and like, proposing sex or a kiss or whatever. But like, because they have a history, I am more lenient with this one. You know what I mean?
C: Yeah, yeah.
G: It's still- I think it still falls into that category. Because, like, with like, Cassie, right, they already had sex before that. And then, like, the kiss, and the kiss is not of gratitude, it's like, of history, and blah blah blah, and goodbye. But with this one, she was like, "Leave us alone; I don't want you in my life," blah blah blah blah. And then, like, he saves the kid's life, and then she's suddenly like, "I'm gonna give you a kiss, and you can stay forever if you want to!"
C: Yeah.
G: And it's a bit Andreaverse, isn't it?
C: It is very Andreaverse. Yeah, right, especially because Andrea was like, at the beginning, she was like, "Oh my god, stop hitting on me! Like, you're so annoying." And then, as soon as he saves her kid's life she's like, "Wow! I'm gonna kiss you. Oh my god, you're so cool." Like, I think my ex-fiancee said a thing where she was like, "It seems like in every single, like, episode where people are like, 'Oh my god! You guys are like, crazy. Stop it!' Like, it hurts the writers' feelings to not have it end with them, being like, 'Oh my god, I was so wrong to be mean to you [G laughs] when you were being so creepy and like, not respectful of me. And you were right to be terrible the whole time. Take me, now!'" Like- [laughs]
G: Yeah.
C: That's stupid! Like, the context of there being changelings is not- like, most of his behavior in this episode is not because of the case. He's just a creep. The only thing he did to her that was like, case-related was checking in on her and giving her the credit card. Everything else, he was just like that.
G: Yeah.
C: Ugh.
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C: So now we're back in the motel room! And so Sam's on the phone. There's a bit of a montage of him like asking about death dates and causes of death about- for a bunch of people. So like, apparently, there was like a fire in 2006 that killed one of Mary's friends, and then a lot of her family members. There's like a Robert Campbell and an Ed Campbell who died as well. And yeah, no, it's interesting, because, like, 2006 is the fire. Like, we're in- what? 2008, 2007 right now? 2007.
G: So this is recent shit.
C: Azazel killed them very recently.
G: I didn't even consider that. I thought it was like, fifteen years ago, 2006. [laughs] Yeah, it was just like, a couple of years back.
C: Yeah. Oh, also, I think the the transition to Sam was very funny, because like, Dean's having his romantic like, wistful moment. And then it's like, spy music [G laughs], and then Sam's being like [dramatically] "Who died? And then what?" Yeah, they are in completely different genres this episode, and good for them. So he's like, "Oh my god! Well, I sure found out a lot." And later, he's talking to someone, and it's not revealed until partway through who it is like. You probably think it's Dean at first, but no, he's saying to Ruby, like, "All of my mom's friends are dead. Her uncle and her doctor. Like, everyone who ever knew her was like, recently, just one by one, killed." And yeah, Ruby says like, "Yep, that was the yellow-eyed demon." When do we learn that his name is Azazel? Does this ever happen?
They're still calling him the yellow-eyed demon. When do we know his name?
G: No idea. Maybe we never do.
C: Yeah, maybe we just made up "Azazel." Who even knows?
G: Exactly.
C: Yeah, and Sam's like, "Okay, so like, tell me what the fuck is up with you because you know so much. I don't think you're a hunter because you know more about my own family than I do." Sam-
G: Maybe she's just smart.
C: [at the same time] Maybe she's just a true crime girlie who's hyperfixated on your mom's death. Have you considered that?
G: Exactly.
C: Yeah. Right. And he's like, "Just tell me who you are!" And she's trying to deflect, and he says it again, and then he like, fucking yells it in her face. Rude! And she's like, "Okay, fine." And then she blinks, and when she opens her eyes again, they're black!
G: She's a demon!
C: Love this. Love it. And Sam tries going for holy water, and Ruby's like, "No, don't do that. I'm here to help you." And Sam says, "You're a demon," and [sighs] Ruby says, "Don't be such a racist."
G: "Don't be such a racist!" That was a funny line. I love it.
C: It was funny, but also, Sera Gamble wrote “Bloodlust,” you know-
G: Yeah. [laughs]
C: - where like, she clearly draws parallels between like, vampirephobia and like, real life racism so like, it's like, “What are you trying to do here, Sera Gamble?” Like, fantasy racism is real in one of your episodes, and now it's like, a joke because it's like, "Obviously, it's not the same thing." And also, you are one of the more racist writers of Supernatural in the first place.
G: Yeah.
C: What are you doing, Sera Gamble?
Yeah, she says, like, "I'm here because I want to help you, and I can, if you trust me." So he starts interrogating her about all the murders, and she says, "I don't know. That's what I'm trying to find out." And then she says, "All I know is that it's about you." And this is literally like the third time that Sam has heard this from a demon, and still he's like, "What? What? Oh my god! What?" When is this gonna stop being a reveal for him? Literally, in like fucking 2.21, also written by Sera Gamble, Azazel literally says, "This was all about you," and Sam goes like, "Oh my god, what?" Like, Sam, are you stupid? What's happening? [laughs] So-
G: I don't- I don't know what's. Like he's so- he has no object permanence. [C laughs] We talk about developmental delays, but like, Sam, has no object permanence.
C: True.
G: He's like- every single time it's like, "Your mom is involved in this," he's like, "[gasps] Oh my god!" And like, you figured this out season one, Sam! [C laughs]
C: Oh my god. Yeah.
G: He's so real, though.
C: So real. Yeah. So she says, like, "What happened to your mom and all of her friends was like, the demon trying to cover up what he did to you. And I want to help." And she says, like, "I have my reasons. Not all demons are the same, Sam. Not all of us want the same thing." And she says, like, "What I want is just to help you from time to time. And if you let me, there's something that you get out of it, too." And he says "What?" And she says, "I could help you save your brother." Dun-dun-dun!
G: Whoo!
C: I love when women lie.
G: Yeah. And that's the end of the episode.
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G: What are our post-episode thoughts?
C: About the same as they were coming in.
G: Yeah. It's funny-
C: But I do like that they're in completely different genres. Like, all the Ruby stuff is just completely irrelevant to anything. They just have to stuff it in here.
G: Yeah. The thing is like, I think, all aspect- 'cause there are three things going on this episode. So, the Lisa stuff, the case stuff with Katie and her mom, and the Ruby stuff. And all of them are interesting, in fairness.
C: Yeah. They're all totally different, though.
G: Yeah, they're all incredibly different from each other, and they don't necessarily make a cohesive whole. Like, the Ruby stuff, obviously doesn't actually add anything to the- emotionally or like thematically, yeah. But it still works. It's okay.
C: Yeah, I mean, it's good like on its own. It's good for build up.
G: Yeah. How about Best Line/Worst Line?
C: Okay. So... hm. Best line, I mean, I really like when Lisa went off at Dean.
G: Yeah.
C: What are the exact lines? Yeah, like, "What are you even still doing here? We had one weekend together a million years ago. You don't know me, and you have no business with my son." So true. It's a good character moment for her.
G: My worst line is, "You don't know Dean? The Dean? [C screams] 'Best night of my life' Dean?"
C: My god.
G: Ugh. Ulgh.
C: Yeah. Screaming, crying, and throwing up.
G: Ew. What's your worst line?
C: See, originally, it was the Pokey line, because again, I didn't know that that was a character. [G laughs] But now, I agree with you.
G: Huh, I don't know what my best line is. Probably the one where it's like, "Mommy, can we get some ice cream now?" That one.
C: Ooh, yeah.
G: Because, like, again, like I said earlier, that scene is imprinted in my head, even from way back. So yeah, I think it's super creepy, it works so well, very well done. Wow! Can you believe we're singing praises? For Supernatural? It's a good case, though. The case is pretty good.
C: Yeah, the case is really good. Everything else- no, Sam and Ruby are fun
G: I like Sam and Ruby.
C: But the Lisa part-
G: Eh, it's okay.
C: Hm.
G: I would say it's interesting. That's what I would say about it.
C: Yeah, I'd say it's interesting. It's also misogynistic, though.
Speaking of, our new point system-
G: is-
C: - we should keep- Okay, so yeah, so what we're doing is just, at the end of every episode, we are just gonna give the writer a point- or a point to five points, depending on the severity, in the racism category and in the misogyny category. So we forgot to do this for 3.01, but I think that 3.01 gets a point in each category for the like- the misogyny one would be like, the you know, like, "How come you got beat by a girl?" Blah blah blah blah blah. [G laughs] And then the racism, I think, would be like, the unnecessarily brutal way that they treated Isaac, and also the like, lack of sympathy that they give to Tamara for her loss. Do you agree?
G: I think so. Do you want to bump up the racism to two points, though?
C: Yeah, yeah, no, you're right. I think that the Tamara stuff is way worse than "how come you got beat by a girl." [G laughs] Okay, so two on the racism for-
G: Yeah, I would say one and two, so.
C: Okay. And then, I'd say, for this one, there's no racism points, because-
G: There's no one. [laughs]
C: Everyone in there is white. [laughs] And hm, for misogyny, one to two. I'm not sure.
G: I think it's fascinating that they paint Ben's like, calling people bitches, and like-
C: Yeah, hot chicks.
G: - in a positive light.
C: Yeah, like it's cool of him. Like, he's a cool kid, he's not a loser kid.
G: And, like the portrayal of Lisa, while I wouldn't call misogynistic, she is part of the Andreaverse.
C: Yeah. [laughs] Very much so.
G: So like, it's in reference to earlier misogyny. [both laugh] So maybe a two.
C: Alright, yeah.
G: Maybe this one's a two-pointer.
C: Alright. We have two misogyny points to Sera Gamble. Alright.
G: What a win. [both laugh] Go Sera.
C: Again, diversity win, this woman is misogynistic, too.
G: Yeah. Okay. So, IMDb. What's your deal? I think this one's gonna be pretty high. I'll go 8.7
C: It's gonna be pretty high, I agree, but I feel like people in the reviews are going to be like, "It was so funny when like, Ben and Dean checked out the mom and the kid at the same time"-
G: Noo.
C: Instead of like, "This was a very compelling case, and Ruby is cool," which are like, my reasons to rate it high. But yeah, okay. 8.7 seems a little much. I think I'll go an 8.6.
G: Okay. Let's see.
[gasps] You're right!
C: Ooh!. Good for me.
G: That's fantastic. It's an 8.6! Let's check out the reviews, baby!
C: Ugh. The first review calls Lisa sexy, like, twice.
G: [laughs] Well, someone's into her.
C: Wait, it says "sexy actresses" in the second mention. So like, are they saying that they were sexually attracted to Fiona Apple during her breakdown? [G laughs]
G: Noo.
C: Noo.
G: This one says, "I'm waiting to find out what the yellow-eyed demon was trying to cover up. Also, I'm waiting to find out if the demon appears again, or if any other character that have disappeared or died appear again. I'm really wanting to know if Missouri is still alive or not."
C: Oh god, I'm so sorry!
G: "I thought the character has a lot more in store for the Winchesters, but I haven't heard any more about her."
C: Aww. Aww.
G: I'm so sorry, dude.
C: Aw, I'm so sorry.
G: So sorry, MorganDoll, from October 11, 2007.
C: Aw, I hope they're doing okay.
G: [laughing] This one- "I know I'm pretty much alone with my opinion on this, but I find the Dean-kid scenario extremely trite."
C: Soo true! So true.
G: "The similarity seems so forced. It makes you feel like the creators don't have that high an opinion of the audience, so they try to make their point so obvious that even the dumbest viewer get the idea."
C: Say that, say that, and say that.
G: "I would appreciated if they had handled that matter in a much more subtle way, like, I liked how Dean connected with the boy in 'Dead in the Water.' It touched my heart!" I did not pronounce any of those words correctly. [both laugh]
C: [laughing] No, they sound right.
G: No, they're saying like, "Dead in the Water" had good interactions with kids so like, they wish it would have been like something in that vein instead of like, super forced. I agree.
C: I agree.
Oh, the last one says, "Also, Dean acts kind of creepy here." So true. [laughs]
G: Yeah. Yeah, I think that's it.
C: That is it.
G: So yeah, that's it for this episode of Busty Asian Beauties. Next week, we will be discussing- hold on. Who- Next week, we will be discussing Season 3, Episode 3:
"Bad Day at Black Rock." Leave us a rating or a review wherever you get your podcasts!
C: Bye... [G laughs] No, no, no, why don't I know any of my words anymore?? Don't keep this in!
G: Oh, no, I will. [both laugh] I don't even know what your lines are. Leave a- no.
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Torturous Comedy
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(Disclaimer: I am not a comedian, but I tried my best.)
Garak never could have predicted the line of work his precocious daughter would have gone into. She had been a sharp writer, an artist, and a bit of a loner all through her schooling (a fact, Garak knew, Julian blamed himself for, concerned it was the xenophobic sentiment on Cardassia that kept their lovely daughter from gaining friends on the planet).
Privately, Garak thinks it had more to do with his daughter's alarming sense of humor. A mixture of Julian's tart sarcasm, and Garak's love of theatricality, Mila often says things that were just so slightly off-color.
Still- a comedian. The first Cardassian Comedian. And to make matters much, much worse, she was actually funny.
True, much of his comedy was based on her parents, but certainly, who could blame her? Garak thinks fatalistically. A tailor and a spy as one father and a super-doctor as the other, Mila certainly had her reasons for psychological trauma.
Julian, he knows, handles the state of affairs by being relentlessly supportive. He sends Mila dozens of leading publications on attracting larger crowds at venues (a facet of his personality that translates on stage to a neurotically protective parent). He attempts to go to as many shows as his busy schedule reasonably accommodates. When news outlets reach out to ask him for comment, he only ever utters glowing praise of his "brilliant daughter," who is so "tremendously clever and funny."
But in the privacy of their home, Julian will badger Garak relentlessly on the apparent psychological damage they dealt their child.
Garak is often quick to point out that any errors they made along the way are too long in the past to be corrected. At least Mila can use her childhood trauma for creative gain.
And, she does still speak to them. She calls regularly, she still tells them about her life, she is still their daughter.
Still- he could do without:
"So, you think your parents are bad?" Mila says, asking the audience, who cheers slightly.
"My parents are... what's a polite way to say it? Sexually active? Fucking like bunnies? Do you know how shitty it is to be in your twenties and know that your parents are fucking more than you?"
The audience laughs while she continues, "and of course, it doesn't help that my human father cannot help but discuss his storied youth" here, she drops into an uncanny impression of Julian's accent. "Oh darling, when I was your age, I used to have these incredible threesomes with my Vulcan roommate and an Orion. But so lovely to hear that you had a nice date with Simon, my human boyfriend and civilian geologist. We're getting married in the spring."
The audience laughs and cheers in congratulations.
"I'm the nerd in the family. My parents fuck and commit treason, and I'm stuck doing math homework and going to bed every night at nine. I could tell them about the party drugs I did last night, and they say, "make sure you always have a phaser."
The audience laughs.
"What's worse is I think they're being serious!" She takes a swig of water.
The show continues, the audience laughing and cheering appropriately when Garak appears in his daughter's dressing room. He knows she hadn't been aware he was in the audience, and she certainly hadn't been aware that Garak had her private security key, but if she didn't realize these facts by now, he had raised an idiot.
"Yadik," Mila says, barely reacting despite her apparent surprise. Garak smiles proudly.
"The audience liked you," Garak says.
"You've never come to a show before," she says. And this is true. Garak had only ever heard about her performances second-hand from Julian.
Garak quarks an eyebrow ridge instead, "are you quite certain of that, young lady?"
Mila laughs slightly under her breath, turns, and hugs him. "It is good to see you, Yadik."
"Your father is concerned," Garak replies lightly.
"Dad is always concerned," she says with a rolled eye.
Garak gives her a stern look, "Mila."
"Sorry," she says, looking contrite.
Garak was fanatical about the language she used to describe her parents in person. Garak privately wonders how much she realizes this is to protect Julian, who faced such constant disrespect on Cardassia despite his overwhelming value and brilliance. Garak guesses she's more aware than he wishes she were.
"You have a good stage presence," he says instead.
"Thank you," she says and then hesitates before continuing with, "you don't like what I do, do you?"
"It is not in my nature," Garak starts, cautiously, "to want details of my private family life, no matter how exaggerated, to be shared publicly. However, I know you are passionate about this. And talented at it. And I am, despite my misgivings, glad to see you so in your element. I suppose it is not so terribly different from my work in the Obsidian Order."
"Oh?" she says archly, looking so much like Julian with the twinkle in her eye. "Pray tell, how? How exactly is comedy at all like torture?"
"Well, of course, both comedy and torture are about manipulation. The precise choice of words and actions at the right moment. I suppose, in the end, you took much more after me than either of us ever could have anticipated."
She looks at him in disbelief for a few moments longer before breaking down into hysterical laughter. "At least I know I'll never run out of material."
Garak smiles fondly, gazing at the young woman in front of him. Clever, brave, independent, and fiercely affectionate. He thinks about how she looked on stage, sparkling in the stage lights.
He hadn't been expecting to like his grown-up daughter this much. Love? Certainly. But she had grown into such an interesting and dynamic young lady that he thinks even if he didn't raise her, he would have wanted to know her.
And then he thinks, quite unbidden, that he and Julian really did a wonderful job.
He shakes his head slightly and says, "I am in town overnight, and- if you are willing to spare a few moments away from your party drugs- I would love to take you to dinner."
She smiles brilliantly. "I would love that."
"Wonderful. I cannot wait to hear more of your impression of your dad. You really have quite captured his intonation, and I do so miss him. He's been in the gamma quadrant for three weeks now."
She laughs slightly again. "I can always use the practice"
He lets her guide them out of their changing room and feels, deep in his core, despite how different she was than anything he had imagined, deeply proud of the woman leading him.
#garashir#julian bashir#elim garak#my writing#st: ds9#i just COULD NOT stop thinking#that these two would raise such funny kids#and okay I'm not a comedian#but imagine an actually funny person wrote this#they are just PERFECT comedian parents#and I encourage other writers to take a crack at this#esp the budding comedians amongst us
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Today I've rewatched the 3rd Naruto Shippuden movie ("The Will of Fire" or whatever is its name) out of nostalgia and because I consider it a "comfort movie" of mine, despite being a not-so-good one
Anyway, since I'm obsessed with re-reading or rewatching any scene having some good Sannin content in this goddamn series, I got "slightly mad" realising that actually there's more filler content than actual canon one...
Like, in this movie the antagonist is called Hiruko, who also was a childhood friend of the trio. He talks about always having bad health and not being as powerful as the Sannin, even during their childhood days. So he admired them and wanted to be like them, but also felt kind of jealous he could never reach them, physically speaking. And eventually, he went for the "forbidden Jutsu" way, made illegal experiments, actually ruined his body, but almost reached (by the end of the movie) his goal of having the perfect, most powerful body ever.
Now, the fact that this mad lad was introduced in a filler movie gets on my nerves because it could have been cool to have the whole story of Hiruko as canon, for two main reasons:
As I said, the lack of canon Sannin content is absurd, even regarding their relationship with other people (famous and not) during their childhood/teenhood/early adulthood
Hiruko thought a bit too much like Orochimaru and I can see them being best friends because of their interest obsession for forbidden jutsus and "thirst" for more and more power [one thing I've found pretty funny while rewatching the movie was the fact that Hiruko presumably was like... an addition in Team Hiruzen and while he narrates his backstory, at some point there's this scene in which teen Jira-Oro-Tsuna reach his secret lab (where he was conducting an experiment) because, apparently, Hiruzen ordered to kill him and they went there to hunt him down but he escaped, of course, lol AND IT MAKES ME LAUGH SO FUCKING HARD THAT OROCHIMARU WILLINGLY WENT THERE TO HUNT DOWN SOMEONE WHO COULD HAVE BEEN HIS "ILLEGAL EXPERIMENTS" BESTIE WITH A SHOCKED FACE WHEN THEY REACHED THE LAB LIKE-
OROCHI MY BRO WHY ARE YOU SO SHOCKED? YOU'RE DOING GONNA DO THE SAME SHIT IF NOT WORSE💀 anyway, if this shit was canon, canonically Hiruzen would be that sensei who let NOT JUST ONE, BUT TWO ABSOLUTE MAD UNETHICAL SCIENTISTS ESCAPE HIS FREAKING VILLAGE!]
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Just to end this """"rant"""", we really need Kishimoto to at least write down some new canon content regarding the Sannin past (both as a team and as individuals). Like, really, a novel would be fine! I've kept repeating this for years now but I WANT something that isn't just lil' flashback panels thrown here and there in the manga only for the SP staff to use them as blueprints for... like... two whole half-canon-half-filler episodes (ep. 127-128 I'm looking right at you)
I know we can rely on some good fucking fan content because the Sannin fandom out there is filled with talented people (writers, artists...). I don't consider myself as a good "content creator", but I enjoy to put my love for this team of old, fucked-up shinobi on a piece of paper with my stupid pencil... But the point is, we're all linked by the distress we feel for the lack of *inhales* GODDAMN CANON CONTENT FROM THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR HIMSELF.
Literally sometimes I think Kishimoto just created them out of a fever dream, only to put them aside in the darkest corner of his mind when he noticed he hasn't thought about anything else for their story... even in "Boruto" it looks as if he wants to put them in the plot, somehow, but most of the time he doesn't know HOW and that's sad. Tremendously sad.
#sannin#jiraiya#tsunade#orochimaru#naruto#naruto thoughts#random rant#I'm in need for new sannin content#but I'm mad because the only one that exists is filler#naruto filler#naruto movies#legendary sannin#orochimaru could have got a mad scientist pal like him#but the mad scientist pal is FILLER.#kishimoto gimme a sannin novel for once#idk if anything of this makes sense
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a servant of two masters
hi friends welcome back to me aimlessly ranting about merlin. up today we have 4.06 and this episode. wow. literally just the title gives me everything i need and i'm absolutley here for the chaos that will ensue. hi bestie @lady-ofmagic-andstars
i love them in their capes
i want a cloak
dude the 'oh it's not gonna happen' and then it happens trope is so dumb but i laugh every time
notice how the knights ripped off their capes
dude people are falling off of horses and out
MERLIN
ok ok but how is he injured. ik this is rated for kids but i really dk how badly merlin is injured. it looks like just his shoulder but he shouldn't be almost dying like his yk?
:,) arthru making jokes
ok but i love arthur taking care of merlin
alskdjflsadk them trying to make jokes to make each other feel better :,)
stop arthur. stop telling the truth merlin's not dying here 😭
bestie vibes only deadass
HAHA
a s s
side note, the site i get my screenshots from- this picture has 61 views while others average maybe like 10-15?? perverts HAHA just kidding
sok i'm actually really curious as to what merlin's injury is
alsdjf;lasdfjsaldfjsaldf merlin making the rocks fall
idk if it's jut the angling but i felt like the enemies were way too close for merlin to create an entire rock barrier. i don't have any screen shot evidence but so you're just going to have to take my word for it
ok but like who even are these men. they were working for morgana trying to capture arthur?
and what's morgana going to do once she has arthur? kill him and take his place on the throne? remember how well that turned out last time she tried that? no one wanted her. idk idk morgana is just confusing as to what she wants
pls die agravaine
haha strangely fond of the boy? there's nothing strange about it
ok i laughed but i also felt bad when morgana splashed merlin awake and flailed around like a fish
dude merlin is so snarky here and i'm HERE for it
ok i like the knights being competent. thank you thank you
and now they're riding back into camelot with their capes on? you're telling me they traced back their steps to find their capes, dusted them off to make sure that they weren't too dirty and didn't have any leaves or branches still sticking to it before riding back to camelot? iconic
poor gaius. ok he's the worst but he does think of merlin as his son and this makes me sad
ok i have a dumb question. do you think merlin understands whenever other magic users are casting spells? ok i feel like this is a dumb question now. but like, is magic a language? are all incantations in a different language, so when other person who knows magic is watching you- they know what you're trying to do and such? i feel like "of course they'd know" but i'm basing that assumption on hp where everyone knows that alohomora is alohomora and where everyone knows that lumos is lumos. but what about here? does merlin know what she's incanting? can he slightly understand it even if he's never seen/done it before? is magic a language like latin, and even if you aren't completely fluent, you and parse together things and make an assumptions?
arthur is just so sad here
i just, i have to have these here
yes bby figure out that we have a traitor
gaius is not slick in the slightest. yes. look at the traitor king
wow morgana being able to bond with the snake? i wonder how
ok question, does the fomorroh have some sort of loyalty to whoever calls them?
✨kill arthur pendragon✨
ok that snake going in his neck is actually scary
pretty castle counter: 5
btw this is actually my zoom background sometimes. it depends from call to call but it changes between this pretty castle and peeta mellark
G E O R G E
ok i've seen all the tumblr posts but it doesn't get less funny. the 'merlin's missing and we can't find him so we're going to replace him with another manservent dressed EXACTLY like merlin so arthur feels better' makes me chuckle every time
i would like to have that for breakfast
i like the loyalty arthur thank you. i love the loyalty pls. i love that they're friends. like, i love the romance but i love just people being friends too
ok this whole scene. arthur wanting to look for merlin because he has to at least try, gwen just wanting arthur to be careful and to come back to her, gwaine being buds. i love all the friendships in this and just yes thank you
ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok i'm not at the hug scene yet but i know it's coming and i'm beyond excited
ok this sound track is so cute.
saldkfj;asldkfjasldkfsd
matching icons for you and your best friends
deadass if someone wants to change their tumblr icons so we can match hmu bc i'm 100% down with that
another pretty castle scene
SASSY MERLIN PLS
ok ik this is dumb to comment on because i feel like it's not tremendously hard to execute but i love the differences that colin made in regular merlin and fomorroh merlin. it's the best
they say it later in the episode but i find it hilarious how bad of an assassin merlin is
dude pls you're pouring poison in front of EVERYONE else?
BOG MAN. ok guys i'm calling you guys bog mans now.
ASLDJFALSDFJS THE JEALOUSY SCENE
i am cringey but laughing at the same time you don't understand why am i this childish
ok but arthur is being so sweet right here. i feel like he's not trying to be showy in front of gwen, i feel like he wants merlin to rest and that's so sweet. he's so patient right here and i love him
i miss the gwen and merlin friendship actually
dude merlin is roasting gaius so hard today
leon geeking out over weapons is so cute. omg he's such a tiny nerd i love him
laskjflasdfj THIS SCENE. this makes up for the stew jokes that i may or may not still be mad about
i love that the knights LITERALLY turn a blind eye it's actually hilarious
LOOK AT MERLIN BEING COMPETENT?? HE'S SO SMART WITH THE ARROW RIGGING THING
it's literally treason leon pls and you're laughing you're the best 😭😭
i wish we had a pervical back story arc
ok i think it's dumb that i laughed when merlin ducked but i stand by that
ok why do i feel bad for arthur a little. he's talking abt some semi-deep stuff. not deep deep but like, he's trying to ask for advice from his friend, his close advisor. he would've never talked to merlin like this is season 1-2 but here he is, talking about trust. and MERLIN is trying to MURDER HIM. yes. i admit it's a little funny when i'm just watching merlin trip over things and such, but when i listen to arthur talking i feel slightly sad
literallly. merlin's passed out on the floor and arthur doesn't even think anything is wrong
gwen's face when she knocked merlin out is so cute
oop. why is arthur standing in agravaine's door way like an absolute robot
cyes arthur. figure him out
i hate agravaine. i just want arthur to be happy. he's only trusting agravaine because agravaine is family.
stfu agravaine 'you're all that's left of my dear sister' SHUT THE FRONT DOOR
ok there's a repeat of the castle from earlier but i'll spare you
pls this bath scene is so awkward. tt not being able to trust anyone anymore and we're laughing at merlin but arthur's talking so sad and deep
pls this bath scene is so awkward. that's all the notes i have
again, i miss gwen and merlin
merlin is MONCHING on those berries. i'm craving berries now
ok but like. yk that pouch that gaius is using to make the forromoh dormant? what if merlin tucked it in his neckerchief as a precaution. i'm just saying.
aslfkjasdaskdjf the tavern
yall why did merlin have to stop his horse to drink the potion
i want the knights to have a cool band name or smth yk what i mean?
i like that merlin is still a little in the camelot red. it's not the same shade but yk what i mean
HAHA LEON AND PERCIVAL BEING PUSHED TOGETHER. I JUST KEPT ON SCREAMING SUBTEXT SUBTEXT
damn morgana wants RESUKTS. i dont blame her
the frist interaction with merlin and morgana in the hut is so awkward. pls.idek how to comment on it
deadass morgana's dress is so pretty.
magic fight! magic fight!
stfu 'rightfully mine' pls
hehe there's a leaf in his hair
ok i feel like i should've commented more on the magic fight but idk bro
so ik that colin was in this whole episode but it really only just now feels like merlin is here and i think that's fun
arthur is the cutest. i'm loving this dynamic you have no idea. i live live live live LIVE off banter. pls
guys i'm sad apparently i can only put 10 pics in a post but pls enjoy this one pic of arthur right here 😭
ok idk abt you but i'd love to hear jokes abt brass
agaragvaine pls die already
YOU'RE SUCH A PERV LITERALLY
GO
AWAY
NOW
dude that last scene was actually really pretty and i'm sad that i can't attach it now
anyways thanks for reading my long ass rambles. but i'll be back next week to the secret sharer i'll catch you on the flip side
#merlin#merlin bbc#colin morgan#emrys#morgana pendragon#king arthur#bradley james#gwen pendragon#angel coulby#morgana#katie mcgrath#gwaine#percival#elyan#leon#gaius
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Thoughts on The Good Place finale:
My reaction throughout:
I knew the finale was going to be about them going through the door and I thought I was ready, but I wasn't! This is supposed to be a comedy, damn it! We're in the Sad Place tonight, everyone.
Jason being the first to go through the door was something I wasn't expecting (in fact, I actually thought they were all going to go through together), but it everything about it, from his going away party to him explaining how he knew, to the necklace he made for Janet... It was beautiful! It was also really sweet how he didn't want to go through until he found it, and if that's not true love, then I don't know what is! I also thought it was great how he learned to be Jianyu without even trying; it was like everything was coming full circle for him.
Tahani finally getting the love she deserves was great, and her becoming an architect was even more so. I seriously wouldn't mind her getting a spin-off one day before she too passes on. I also loved how Michael gave her a little bowtie of her own.
The Chidi and Eleanor scenes were also great, and as someone who isn't that big on Dan Brown, I think my favorite line from him this episode would be the garbage books thing. The Athens and Paris scenes were also beautiful and I cried for Eleanor after she let Chidi go, especially with the "it's what I owe to you" line and her telling him to leave while she's asleep. I'm glad Chidi at least left her a parting gift before doing so though; that was really bittersweet (also, can we please have those as official merch?)
Eleanor really has come a long way, hasn't she? Her scene with Mindy really highlighted this most of all, I think. And seeing her go through the door after everything she's done, completing her journey and watching old friends depart... I think Jason said it best this episode: "the air inside my lungs was the same as the air outside of me." And yeah, that's exactly what it felt like for me. It was... peaceful. And to know that apparently humans become little voices after passing through, helping others (or at least that's the impression that I got)... I think it's fitting.
And now, Michael. Oh, how far he's come as well. From trying to torment four humans to helping them to becoming the architect of the real Good Place, to finally becoming an actual human. I cried tears of joy for him, especially seeing what his life was like on Earth afterwards: him getting a doggo and naming him Jason, learning to play guitar... Also, you can't tell me the character ends marrying the guitar teacher played by Mary Steenburgen. It's only fitting, folks! I wouldn't mind him getting his own spin-off, either. Seriously, there's alot of potential there.
And just a few sidenotes here: It's great that even Mindy gets a resolution to her story and someone please make Derek the new galaxy brain meme! It's what I was thinking the entire time he was on screen. Shaun trying not to sound evil was also one of the funniest thing ever, as was seeing the passing of the Jeremy Bearimys and especially Michael trying to pass through the door. The Doorman getting his own real frog was so cute, and I loved seeing the photos of Team Cockroach Michael's office, as well as his and Janet's friendship one last time.
Just everything about this finale was sweet and funny and sad and just all around bittersweet.
Getting to see this show has been an amazing experience, and it's taught me so much about philosophy and morality that I probably would've never thought about on my own before. And even though I'm sad it's ending, I'm also glad it got to go on its own terms with a satisfying conclusion.
So, with all that being said:
Thank you, Michael Schur, for four tremendous seasons.
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@nixwrites replied to your post The Heart Holiday | Act 2 (2/2) | myg
OMG. This was so good and uggh this made me feel mad and so so so glad! Like I was up to that point where I had to stuff my face in a pillow to stop myself from laughing ny head off because there are people around me. " It sounds weird—like a grandpa wheezing in front of an electric fan." This made me laugh so hard 😂 This chapter was so good. And drunk Y/n is just the cutest. I wanted to hug her so bad after the call with Nancy and when Yoongi did, I was trying to
muffle my voices with the pillow beside me lol(I think the pillow experienced this fic too 😂) And author, your writing is sooo good don't even try denying it. Well idk but if my fic is able to make peole use their pillow to hide their feelings their face is showing because other people are around them and might think their crazy then that's really something. Your writing is so tremendously awesome and spectacular I think I'm in love and I will desperately, patiently
Wait for the next update, thank you so much for this fic it's so good! I loved this so much ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
And I have more to say about the moments in this chapter but I'll keep them to myself because I already wrote a huge comment there and oh! I almost forgot please tag me too in the next update :)
OMG NIX!!! I FINALLY KNOW YOUR NAME, YOU CHANGED URLS!!
Hon, what you just said here...is I think every writer wants to hear from their readers. I'm happy that this fic made you ride the emotional roller coaster with my characters. I even got you using a pillow to hide your facial expressions! This comment just makes me remember why I even want to write. I want my readers to experience things and feel things they may have never felt before through my characters. To take them to the worlds I make and make them just...feel. I think the constant shits that's happening in the world rn have deemed some of us unable to feel bc some of us might have long been dealing with dread, anxiety, or sadness that it's hard to even tell the difference if we're happy or not. I want my writings to make them see that it's possible to feel other things, even if it's just through fictional worlds. And I think I accomplished a bit this goal bc I was able to make you feel this way.
You're right. I think our pillows also experienced the stories we read. Fluffy fics make me squeal into my pillow too! And some angst stories gets our tears to keep running down our pillow. I remember reading a really angsty fic back in 2015 that I cried so hard that my tears left a stain on my pillow for three days! Ugh, idk why I suddenly got this emotional about pillows, I just realized this now bc of your commment.
And yeah, drunk THH!Y/N was the cutest! Can you believe I was also squealing hard while writing the scene of Yoongi piggyback riding her while stressing about finding her keys in her bag? Tbh, my single-since-birth ass wants so hard to experience the stuff THH!Y/N did 😭. And omg, you laughed at OC's description of yoongi's laugh! I also laughed hard whike writing that! I think I'm not that funny so I just try to be funny in my writings. And I guess my humor went well with this one!
Thank you for thinking so highly of me, Nix 🥺. I try my best not to disappoint...Thank you so much for these kind words. You don't know how happy I am to read them again and again. Don't worry about sending a long comment. I always love hearing what my readers has to say. So just comment all you want! Thank you so so much for loving THH, hon. You really got me like this: 😭😔🥺😊🥰I am so blessed to have you as my reader! I love you 💕
#aera blushes#the heart holiday#reviews#thh#nixwrites#sorry this is so long#you just got me so happy i can't STOP smiling!#and gushing! and crying! bc of so much love!#i always wished to experience something akin like this when people react to my work in the future#i didn't expect it will happen now!#thank you for lwtting me experience so many tjings 🥺#i love you 😭😭😭#p.s. of course I'm gonna add you in my taglist! 💕#the heart holiday feedback
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Looking Back at iCarly
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Hello internet! This blog lives on, and so do I! My Nickelodeon heart still beats, and here I am in 2019, having recently finished re-watching iCarly…again. Admittedly, there is a part me still clinging to this fandom and I don’t think it will ever go away. So, I recently sat my grown ass adult-self down to re-watch the series, and I feel the desire to just talk about it.
Let’s preface everything with an acknowledgement to nostalgia and the impact it has on how we view things we enjoyed in the past. Nostalgia is typically viewed through rose colored lenses that disguise the truth about whatever it is we remember so fondly. I realize this, and fully acknowledge that nostalgia is probably the biggest reason for my enjoyment during this re-watch; but whether it was nostalgia or not, I have no shame in saying that I loved it. I loved every single second of it. Yeah it was a little cringey at first, (Honestly, that’s to be expected when looking back at shows like these with more mature eyes) but that feeling settled pretty fast, and it didn’t take long for me to fall right back in love with the show.
I love this show. I watched it frequently as a preteen into my teenage years (Around the ages of 11-15 I’d say). I watched until about Season 3 but I ended up falling off with it as I grew older; so I never saw anything from Season 4 onward during its initial run. Fast forward a few years later, and somewhere around 2013 an iCarly clip found its way into my YouTube suggestions. I don’t remember the specific clip, but it had something to do with Sam and Freddie (It may have been the elevator scene from iLove You). It caught my attention because I always remembered thinking that Sam and Freddie would end up together. Curiously enough, I clicked it, and that served as the impetus to make me watch the entire series. I watched it all, and I loved it. I loved it so much that I even made this blog dedicated to it, and other shows cut from the same cloth. I had my heart stolen by Sam and Freddie, and obsessed over the pairing like many others had done before me. I became so attached to the characters, and as corny as it sounds, I felt like they were my friends. I just loved it all. I was hooked, and the series known as iCarly ended up leaving a lasting impression on me. Going on that journey was such a blast; but like all good things, it eventually came to end. After a while I started using this blog less and less. I slowly stopped watching reruns of old Nickelodeon shows, and I eventually fell off completely. So now, we fast forward one more time and here we are in 2019, I have watched the series again, and it turns out that I still harbor that deep connection to it that I had before. The fandom still lives within me, and I’ve realized it will never go away. It is always going hold a place in heart.
Now that my long-winded introduction is over, let’s move on to talking about the show itself. Upon this most recent viewing of the series, I will say that in my humble opinion, the show peaks in Season 3. While I may love the series as a whole, I cannot deny that its glory days are definitely in its earlier years. During this re-watch, I noticed a subtle dip in the quality of show from Season 4 onward. It’s not like it falls off a cliff or anything, it was still very enjoyable, but it definitely felt like they were losing control. This trend continued in Season 5, and parlayed right into the final season as well. By the time you reach the end, it’s apparent they were desperate for ideas, or were just ready to move on. Again, it’s not awful, but it’s not firing on all cylinders like it was in the earlier seasons. There are a plethora of issues we could point to when discussing this, but I think the biggest culprit to the show’s decline in quality was the “ships.” That entire craze definitely had a negative impact on the series overall; even as a “Seddier,” I can admit that. I’ve actually previously, briefly discussed (Here) how I believe “shipping,” directly changed the original, intended story of Sam and Freddie; and I still believe that. The creative direction was undoubtedly influenced by the divide in the audience, and I don’t think that can be disputed. But regardless of the slight dip in quality, I will say that iCarly is still tremendous overall, and Seasons 4 through 6 still have their moments and some great episodes. Season 6 itself recovers wonderfully by the end, with the last five episodes of the series serving as a splendid return to form for the show.
iCarly was one of the most successful Nickelodeon shows for a reason…because it truly is great. In many ways it was a glimpse into the future when you think about the power of the internet and its ability to influence and create success nowadays. It capitalized on that ever growing popularity of the internet, and did so wonderfully. Who didn’t want to have their own version of the iCarly web show? Everyone did, it was the coolest concept. Couple that with the amazing cast they gathered to play the character’s we all came to love, and the show had a recipe for brilliance.
Let’s actually talk about casting on this show because it is absolutely tremendous…
Miranda wonderfully transitioned from the devious little sister, Megan, on Drake & Josh, to the lovable protagonist known as Carly, and she was perfect for the role. Carly is portrayed as the best friend that anyone could ever ask for, and Miranda fills that role so believably well. You truly feel that she cares deeply for all of her friends, and honestly, I think that’s just an extension of Miranda herself. All you have to do is listen to any of her fellow cast member’s talk about her, and it’s not hard to understand why she played Carly so well.
Then there is Jennette; what else can I say about Jennette McCurdy that I haven’t already gushed about on this blog? I adore her to pieces, and her on screen counterpart known as Sam Puckett, I adore even more. I’ve heard Jennette be critical of the show and the role she played, especially as she’s gotten older and distanced herself from the Nickelodeon bubble, but I honestly think she doesn’t give herself enough credit for pulling off Sam the way she did. There is nobody else they could have cast to play that role better than her. There are many layers to Sam Puckett, and while the show tends to shy away from truly fleshing that out, we still get glimpses of it throughout the series. It’s the biggest reason why I love Sam so much, and Jennette excellently captures that contrast within the character. Sam is a tough as they come, and rarely displays compassion or vulnerability, but underneath her rough exterior is a wonderful person with a heart of gold. Much like that character, it often seems that there is a lot more than what’s displayed on the surface with Jennette as well, curiously enough. She herself, is somewhat of an enigma (which I plan on discussing one day as well). The character, and actor are very similar in that regard, and I think that’s why Sam was so great. For the purpose of comedy, Sam is a totally over-exaggerated character, and much more of a tomboy than Jennette is in real life, but beneath all the comedic hyperbole, there are some striking parallels between the character and the actor.
Of course, there is Nathan Kress, who played the role of Freddie, and did a splendid job capturing the loveable tech nerd Freddie was; especially in the earlier years. Nathan also deserves major props for continuing to pull the Freddie character off as time went on because let’s be honest, Nathan matured into quite the handsome young fella right in the midst of this show airing. It was funny juxtaposition to see him still have to portray Freddie, as Sam might say, a “nub,” when he very clearly wasn’t. So again, props to him because he still made it believable that Freddie was just a big dork who struggled with girls and whatnot despite his dapper, physical appearance.
Who doesn’t love Jerry Trainor? He comes across as the most fun person to be around, and I have to imagine that working with him is a total joy. All you have to do is watch the blooper episodes, iBloop and iBloop 2, and you can see just how much fun he makes the work environment for all of his fellow actors. He, as Spencer, is low key probably everyone’s favorite character. He was the perfect choice to portray Spencer, and while he does all the whacky humor and eccentric behavior perfectly, he also captures the moments where Spencer needs to be a responsible adult, arguably even better.
And last but not least, Noah Munck as Gibby. From starting as a reoccurring character with a strange quirk where he persistently took his shirt off , to transitioning into the main cast where announcing his own name in exaggerated fashion became a staple of the show, Noah took this peculiar character and brought him to life in the most entertaining way possible. To quote Gibby himself, Noah made the show, “a lot of fun,” and provided some of the best laughs in series.
I cannot say enough good things about iCarly. It is an all-timer as far as Nickelodeon shows are concerned, and those who were part of the fandom know just how special it was. I’ll forever hold it in my heart, and remember the joy it brought me whenever I “need a laugh, cheer, or random dance.”
And, we're clear...
#icarly#carly shay#sam puckett#samantha puckett#freddie benson#spencer shay#gibby#miranda cosgrove#jennette mccurdy#nathan kress#jerry trainor#noah munck#mine
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“Let me ask you this: What prompted Dany to burn King's Landing? In the moment, that is. The allied forces of Dany and the North had won. In the interests of time, let's leave aside the fact that it was comically easy to kill a dragon only a week ago, but this time, the dragon deftly avoided every projectile and Dany destroyed every scorpion without even breaking a sweat. That was the first laughable moment in an episode that, ultimately, was anything but funny, given how it left the HBO drama's unreliable reputation for quality in smoldering ruins.
In any event, when Dany rested her dragon on a King's Landing wall and realized that she was victorious and the Iron Throne was (probably) hers, what — right then and there — prompted her to decide to burn the city?
Nothing. Nothing at all.
There was no proximate cause, no essential reason for the character to take that horrific action at that moment. To say that a character — or a person — has mental illness in their family tree and thus has no control over their actions is astoundingly reductive and plays into harmful and lazy stereotypes. It's also just boring writing to make a character do something stupid and then handwave it away with "Something, something mental illness!"
That's not only offensive, that's a generality that does nothing to justify that drastic action in that particular moment. All in all, the show has done a piss-poor job of explaining why Daenerys would decide to destroy the very prize she had set her heart on ruling a decade ago. We watched eight seasons of a woman at least attempting to use or think about power differently. Until she didn't. Because … reasons.
Because she had been burned by personal losses? No, sorry, that won't fly. The deaths she's endured recently have certainly contributed to her current mental state, but in the past, we've seen her go through horrific experiences and major grief without murdering thousands of people. Even when she has made mistakes, it was usually in the midst of making strategic decisions that were designed to her get to the next stage of her plan. "Because she was angry" doesn't work, because we've seen her be furious while also demonstrating restraint and realistically assessing the best way forward.
Inescapably, infuriatingly, what we're left with is apparently the central message of Game of Thrones: Bitches are crazy.
Here's how little the show thinks of Dany and how ill-served she was in "The Bells": Once the attack on King's Landing began, we didn't see her face. A core character was reduced to a vengeance-fueled cypher. All we observed, for what felt like pummeling hours, was dragonfire roasting citizens, knocking down buildings, and terrorizing soldiers and civilians alike. Despite Emilia Clarke's superlative acting abilities, we didn't see Dany for the majority of the episode's running time. She was just a faceless, personality-free supervillain, the kind you see in a by-the-numbers blockbuster. We'd been invited to understand Dany's point of view for all these years, but as the endgame approached in "The Bells," the writing made her less interesting than the purple potato known as Thanos.
In its best moments, Game of Thrones has been so much better than this, but every season has been uneven, and this season has been the most slapdash, rushed and insulting of all. At this point, I don't care what happens in the series finale, because the show has already destroyed its legacy, as far as I'm concerned. Of course, a good chunk of that legacy has to do with how ill-served its female characters have been, and the show went out of its way to double down on that in "The Bells."
Brienne was last seen wearing her robe, crying over a boy who broke her heart. The show took the beauty of Jaime knighting Brienne and — again, thanks to tin-eared, threadbare writing — turned it into a bad subplot on a crappy soap opera.
Game of Thrones used to be intermittently interested in exploring and complicating Cersei, which makes sense, given how tremendous a performer Lena Headey is. But this season especially, Cersei has been reduced to a flat, one-dimensional villain, one who is mostly offscreen, except in the occasional scenes in which she smirks or drops smug, acidic commentary. Cersei barely spoke in "The Bells," except for when the show was about to kill her off.
Sansa wasn't even on screen. Everyone in Westeros has made mistakes in their time, Sansa included, but at this point, she's shown more wisdom than most of the characters left alive. She's the most level-headed leadership material the kingdom has at the moment. So, of course, she sitting around tending the hearth in the North and hasn't been given much of interest to do (aside from being portrayed as disloyal to Jon Snow). Not surprisingly, the continually ineffectual Jon Snow wandered around in "The Bells" and once again, didn't really accomplish much. And the show is apparently just dying to put a crown on his head. Because … reasons?
If the show had given us more than a couple minutes of Arya and the Hound actually interacting in the past few episodes (or seasons), maybe her decision to forego revenge on Cersei — you know, a huge part of the motivation that has driven her for years — would have made more sense. It's not that I needed her to kill Cersei, but once Arya was in the Red Keep, the writing for her was abrupt and took the path of least resistance. Maisie Williams gave a terrific performance in the episode, but the messages "The Bells" was sending were so depressingly incoherent that it was hard to care about any of it.
"The Bells" was full of sound and fury that signified nothing, aside from an ungainly sprint to the finish line. It made me feel ill to see so much effort and money wasted on such trivial, silly, nihilistic and sexist storylines. And honestly, the men didn't fare much better: All that character development of Jaime was apparently wasted, and I'm trying to come up with a list of good decisions Tyrion made lately and I'm not coming up with much. This superlative cast deserved better.
In "The Bells," there were moments that could have contained emotional resonance, but that potential was overshadowed by decisions that Benioff and Weiss set up and executed with little or no foresight or thoughtfulness. At this point, it's hard to escape the conclusion that the Game of Thrones creative team thought spectacle would make up for the lack of well-honed concluding character moments. As impressive as the visuals in "The Bells" were, they were ultimately hollow: The explosions served mostly as a reminder that Game of Thrones likes to kill people in large numbers when it runs out of ideas.
Landing like enormous chunks of masonry were so many adolescent, superficial takes on what could have been meaty themes. If it was saying anything, "The Bells" appeared to be stating that cycles of oppression and abuse can't be undone. Rulers are always self-serving and driven by greed and paranoia. Most people can't see beyond their own self-interest. The little people will always get crushed. Douchebros like Euron Greyjoy will always wear leather pants.
So much money spent, so much time spent, all for a show that never knew how to write its women consistently well and that had immature conceptions of how to end their tales. The best-executed major plot turns are moving and tragic because they feel surprising and yet inevitable. Given the right kind of in-depth character development, we could have wept for the choices Daenerys, Brienne, Sansa or Cersei made. I grind my teeth when I think about what this show turned out to be versus what it could have been. At its best, its characters have given us moving and wonderfully complex moments, but "The Bells" was Game of Thrones at its worst, and it did untold damage to the show as a whole. It's going to be hard to think of the show without feeling nauseated by what it did — especially to its women — in the home stretch. “
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Size Matters (or does it?)
This week, we have two influences that are worth noting. The Torah and The Zohar discuss the passing of Sarah the Matriarch (Chayei Sarah is Hebrew for “the Life of Sarah”). Abraham finds himself in search of a property not only to bury his wife, but also a resting place in which all of the patriarchs and matriarchs will will be interred. But even more than that, Sarah’s life offers us tremendous lessons and one of the most powerful ways we can understand the energy that's coming at us this week.
The Zohar has this really profound paragraph in this week's portion that talks about how he who is big in this world is small in the spiritual world, and he who is small in this world is great in the spiritual world. Now what are we supposed to do with that? What does that even mean? The Zohar is sharing with us some profound hints about how to live our lives. It seems like an especially timely lesson, when social media is so popular, and has become one of the main ways that we stay in touch with the people in our lives. There's even this funny phenomenon where people perceive that if you don't share something when it happens to you, it's almost like it didn't happen.
And there are also parts of us that share those things because we want the recognition or the acknowledgement or the validation. Maybe we're looking to feel a sense of belonging or connection. And the fear that without promoting ourselves, without uploading the picture, or the clip or the blog post talking about this, that or the other thing that happened to us, we won't have that sense of connection.
Then here comes the Zohar telling us something about how we're perceived or how we're seeing in the physical reality in the material world, in the world in which we live: it's not really important who sees what you're doing. It’s rather quite the opposite; that the more you can conceal about yourself the better. And I'm sure a lot of you are thinking, you know, I have to promote myself because of work. Or here's Elisheva doing these videos!
The real intention behind what we do, the more elevated intention to have is to NOT be seen, to NOT be heard. And even if you're a salesperson, and you're out there going to make a sale, the kabbalists teach that when we are making our pitch, our intention should be to give the greatest pitch we can, to be fully invested in it, and then to detach and not even want the sale.
That is what really allows the Lightforce of the Creator into the situation without our attachment, without our ego involvement, without any of the the respect piece. And that is what truly alters our experience of our reality.
I like to imagine that I’m a sort of stealth Ninja, slinking around in the world trying to do kind things and share and be there for others, while doing my best to remain anonymous, laying low, staying out of the spotlight. Again, I can hear my thoughts and I can hear your thoughts. That's impossible! How am I going to sell my product if I don't promote it? How am I going to sell my services if I don't promote them?
You've still got to do the work. No one's saying don't put yourself out there. But the question is, and and a big theme that's happening coming up this month, is how attached are you? How many times you checking how many likes or shares you get? What are you looking at - the numbers or the amount of energy you’ve invested?
Receiving the long term rewards and benefits of that investment means making sure that every time we find ourselves looking for the acknowledgement, the recognition, the validation, that we realize that all of that energy doesn't feed our soul and doesn't nourish the true parts of us. It certainly nourishes the ego. And the bigger the ego gets, the easier it is to fall into its trap.
I hope you have a fabulous week!
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