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marshmallowprotection · 3 years

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do Ray and Suit Saeran also merge in V's AE? or at the end of it, is it just Ray after a timeskip? I thought it was them merged together since we see him lashing out like Suit Saeran would during the AE but...I'm not so sure? What are your thoughts?

It depends on your personal opinion and how you feel about the way that V’s AE was played out. There’s no right or wrong answer but there’s only so much you can infer from the chat that V had with him during the AE about working on their health and trying their best to move forward in spite of feeling low.

I sincerely hope none of you think that Ray = Good or Suit Saeran = Evil because that’s not how this works. Neither is inherently perfect and neither is inherently evil. They’re both here for a reason and they both very well serve a purpose in ensuring that they survive the hell that is Mint Eye and everything that came before. Ray is capable of wrong-doing. Suit Saeran is capable of kindness. Vice versa.

I always have to point that out because most people in fanon tend to think that that is the way that things are, but it’s an insult to the depth that Ray has and that Suit Saeran has to think in terms of black and white morality when there’s a lot of themes here that back on monsters, cruelty, kindness, and more. Another Story has a lot of that. Either way, just felt the need to point that one out given what I’m used to seeing and tired of when it comes to the characterization of either one of them.

Either way, I’m in the personal camp of I believe that V’s AE version is simply Ray. His expression is much stronger in the sense of Ray.

His wide eyes and strong uncertainty, the way you hear his voice crack at that moment he says his brother’s name... it sounds more like Ray in comparison to Saeray or Suit Saeran to me, and I’m just saying that because his voice actor put in the work to ensure that they all sound different from each other. That’s how it should be as they’re not the same person. I’ve always believed that it is Ray given what happened.

The bomb was traumatizing and to awake after thinking you were dying to see the man that you felt like caused everything, well, the desperation and pain in his heart are very strong. He hits rock bottom. Suit Saeran has said himself that Ray is like a weed. He’s the only one of the two of them that even with all of the rage they have, still wants to believe that V isn’t cruel and that Saeyoung didn’t leave them behind. Yes, he’s angry too, but there’s a part of him that has doubts about everything.

That’s why you note in Ray Route, Ray is willing to turn against Rika’s orders for you even though he shouldn’t. Yes, he is also capable of taking you as his cute assistant just as Unknown does, and he will not hesitate if you don’t call the cops on him.

But, he is also capable of shielding you from elixir that is what he must do. Ray is the last-case-scenario option when it comes to cruelty, at least with the player. He doesn’t want to be cruel, but if push comes to shove, he may have to have a stronger hand. If it comes to V or Seven? He will not hesitate to mess them up.

I mean, Ray is the one that lashed out at V with the elixir. That was not Suit Saeran who forced V to drink it. That was Ray. I’ve always assumed that Ray was the one that was awake in V’s AE and he learned, grew, and tried to come to terms with what happened to him over those two years as he tried to focus on himself and his life. He’s got the only hope they have so... he’s clutching onto it with the hope that maybe V is good.

Suit Saeran is still around, don’t get me wrong, but his triggers would still be Saeyoung. He might have been able to interact with V himself and deal with that on his own terms during those two years, but he has not dealt with Saeyoung and that will be something dangerous. It’s one thing to work on yourself in the present time, but it’s another thing to be face to face with a trigger that makes it hard to breathe. So, I do imagine that there’s a lot they’re going to have to deal with in the future.

Saeyoung and Ray have each other, but Suit Saeran still will need some time to come to terms with everything himself. Ray himself is even going to have quite a hard time with him. He’s dealing with all of this too. It’s possible that they maybe could come together and integrate someday, but I personally have a harder time seeing it happen in V’s AE.

This is just me, though. There’s no canon confirmation either way. They say Saeran but the body’s name is Saeran and at the end of the day, most of this system just responds to that, whether it gives them whiplash or makes them upset. Most of them don’t even pick names, Ray’s was given to him, Suit Saeran just accepts Saeran as a thing, and even Unknown just lets himself be Unknown to avoid hearing that stupid birth name that enrages him now.

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rollzerox · 5 years

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13. I lost our baby

Alright anon you want angst, here it comes *cracks fingers* But I’m going to do something different now using @zenoobsessed ‘s OCs Zoe & Alex, based on her recent fanfic over on her @i-create-as-i-write blog newest fanfic Different Times Different Faces, the OC Queen Jin-ae we created together and this takes place back in Hiryuu’s time. This would be at least around 4 months before Lina’s visit:

“I’m sorry, I’m so sorry if only I had gotten to you sooner…” Zoe had been sobbing for the past hour in the infirmary where she and Queen Jin-ae were taken after the attack on the castle. Abi was asleep in the bed across from them due to his wounds.

“Zoe you just blew up trying to heal Abi, you did all you could.” Jin-ae sighed, looking at the mage’s stomach where there was a scar with bright green and red. “Are you sure you’re ok after that?” she had been crying a great deal herself after what Zoe’s nurse assistant told her. “Apparently the dragon’s blood doesn’t like magic it seems…” she shivered.

“I’ll be fine Jin-ae seriously!” Zoe was still crying as she buried her face into her friend’s shoulder. “What am I going to say to Hiryuu? I failed to protect someone so important to me and…”

“Precious, the king is here.” Alex, the captain of the queen’s guard shook her shoulder, pulling her into a hug. “There, there. You did all you could. Even I couldn’t fight them all off with Abi’s help.”

“Hiryuu dear…” Jin-ae sighed and looked to the side, clutching at her stomach that had just been healed recently but her clothes were soaked with her blood.

“Jin-ae, I’m so relieved you’re safe.” Hiryuu hugged his wife right away, holding her small frame tightly. “… When Guen sensed Abi in danger my first thought was that you…”

“I’m alright thanks to Zoe, she got to me in time to heal me before I bled out.” Jin-ae sighed, shaking her head.

“The only thing I did right.” Zoe sobbed, hiding her face in Alex’s chest.

“Old man, my sis would be dead right now if not for Zoe.” Shu-ten commented, standing right behind him. “I arrived just as she was nearly blown out of the castle from trying to heal Seiryuu over there.” He had rushed back of course in fear for the queen, and got there thanks to his dragon leg. “That’s why I took them all here to rest. With all that blood on the floor I knew it had to be bad…” he balled his fist. “Those bastards are going to pay for what they did.”

Guen nodded. “My queen are you alright?”

“Not exactly…” Jin-ae frowned, whimpering as she turned to her husband. “… I lost our baby…”

Hiryuu’s eyes widened and he saw Zoe’s expression as she bawled out crying again, Alex was trying to soothe her by petting her hair. “Precious it’s not your fault…” he mumbled.

“Yes it is! If only I had stayed by her side I would have been there!” Zoe sobbed. “Now they’re lost their child due to this!”

“Zoe… Don’t please. I know Jin-ae doesn’t blame you right my love?” Hiryuu sighed, hugging his wife right away and rubbing her back. “The people to blame are those that stormed the castle, not the ones that tried to protect it. And she begged you to come with me for protection which you did.”

Guen stiffened at that. “I should have stayed instead of Seiryuu, maybe I could have…”

Shu-ten frowned as he pet Jin-ae on the head. “… I’m sorry sis… God dammit if only I got back to you faster…”

“Hiryuu…. I’m sorry I’ve lost your heir.” Jin-ae sobbed into the king’s robes. “Our precious child together is gone and it’s because I couldn’t protect…”

“Jin-ae….” Hiryuu sighed, leaning his head down to kiss his wife and brushed her tears away with his fingers. “While I am upset about losing something special we created together, I’m still glad you’re here and safe with me. I’m thankful to Zoe for keeping you alive as you’re the wind in my back and the sword at my side.”

“Charmer.” Jin-ae smiled finally, shaking her head. “Usually that’s my department to flirt you dorky dragon.”

Hiryuu smiled warmly as he held her close. “Remember what I told you before Jin-ae when you agreed to become my partner, that together my love, we shall build a peaceful world. We are two halves of a greater whole.”

Jin-ae’s cheeks redden as her heart quicken in pace from her husband’s words. She pulled his head down to give him a passionate kiss, making several of the people in the room turn heads especially the other injured soldiers.

“It’ll be alright precious, I’m sure you healed Jin-ae enough they can try again to have a child.” Alex said, petting Zoe on the head. “I know we’re all upset over the loss of the unborn child, but you still saved her and that’s what counts. I just wish you didn’t get hurt so bad trying to help heal the Seiryuu.”

“… I’m still not sure what happened.” Zoe choked, trying to get her crying under control. “… I need to research it later… Something for sure reacted with that dragon’s blood.” She sighed as she looked at Jin-ae in pity still for her loss.

“Hey sis, people are staring you know.” Shu-ten coughed after a moment as the royal couple kept kissing and whispering words of love to each other.

Jin-ae pulled away from kissing her crimson haired husband to merely shrug. “Let them, I’m such an unbeautiful mess right now I need to make up for it with my lovely husband.”

“Jin-ae I’m fairly certain that’s not a normal human custom.” Hiryuu twisted his mouth, noting how many people were avoiding eye contact and his wife was good at tricking him into thinking it was normal to make out so publicly as she lacked much sense of shame. “And you should rest, along with Zoe. I’ll come back to check on you after I see to the damage done to the castle.”

“Alright but you owe me later, my lord.” Jin-ae said in a slightly teasing voice. “Hey Shu-ten make yourself useful and get us something to eat for big sis!”

“Yeah, yeah….” Shu-ten sighed, heading out to go for the royal kitchen. “I’m not your damn delivery servant you know!” he smiled when turned away though, glad to see his sister alright.

“Oh just make yourself useful already!” Jin-ae said in a teasing tone, sticking her tongue out at him as he left. She then frowned and stood from the bed to hug Zoe once Alex released her. “Zoe, really. Thank you for saving me and protecting Hiryuu. You know he’s everything to me. You can’t be everywhere and protect everyone you know.”

“…” Zoe frowned, it still didn’t sit well with her she couldn’t find something, some sort of spell to save her friend’s child. “You need to be more careful, Jin-ae. Or else I’m sticking by your side like glue from now on.”

“Well that would be rather kinky in the bedroom.” Jin-ae said with a grin, winking at her. “I’m all for it if Hiryuu dear is.”

Alex held up a hand. “I’m ok with that as long as I can watch.”

“… Is that a normal thing for humans to share their companions?” Hiryuu asked, blinking in confusion.

“My queen!” Guen looked like he was about to have a heart attack. “Do not put such blasphemous ideas into our king’s head! What would people say if they found out….”

“Oh please, so many have a bad opinion already about Hiryuu.” Jin-ae rolled her eyes. “Maybe they’d stop whispering nasty things about Zoe being a mage knowing she’s one of Hiryuu mistresses.”

Zeno sighed and rubbed his head as he walked in. “What’s got Hakuryuu all upset?” he blinked at the scene before him. “Queen Jin-ae, I’m glad to hear you’re safe. How’s Seiryuu?”

“Still asleep don’t wake him.” Zoe sighed. “… I bet he’s going to blame himself as much as I do…”

“About what? Shu-ten seemed upset when I passed him but he wouldn’t tell me what happened.” Zeno frowned.

“Zeno can you do me a favor? Watch over my wife and the others as Guen and I see to the rest of the castle.” Hiryuu said, patting Zeno’s shoulder as he hugged Jin-ae once more. “Be safe love.”

“You too.” She whispered as he left, frowning as she turned to the Ouryuu. “The princess is gone…” she clutched at her stomach. “When those ugly bastards attacked Abi took out the first wave but his powers you know how he passes out. He was fighting it so hard when the second wave came and got stabbed. I grabbed his sword and tried to defend myself but there were too many.”

“Oh no…” Zeno’s face looked horrified, bowing before her. “I’m so sorry, if only we had been more careful at the east side when they got in…. We thought the main storm up front was the brunt of their army and then they flanked the castle.”

“Jin-ae, I’m sor-“ Zoe whimpered.

“Zoe if you apologize one more time, I’m going to tickle that special place of yours until you scream.” Jin-ae threatened, referring to her curse mark.

Zoe stiffened at that, quickly shutting up as her hand snapped to her back as if to block the queen’s attempt immediately, her cheeks flushed as she knew Jin-ae would do it too.

“Is that true my queen?” Abi’s voice could be heard from the bed, his eyes were open as he lay still, tears in them as his voice cracked. “… I failed my duty to you completely…”

“Abi don’t…” Jin-ae came over to the Seiryuu’s side, seeing he was still stiff due to the backlash of his powers. “You did all you could to protect me, don’t blame yourself.” She brushed a bit of hair from his face. “I’m just thankful Hiryuu wasn’t hurt in any of this.”

“That’s because Zoe here had a shield on him the whole time.” Zeno explained. “Seriously nobody could get within sight of the king she was so determined to protect him…. Guen said she was starting to make us look bad.”

“Sounds like you were overdoing it there in battle, precious.” Alex chuckled.

Zoe just blushed, looking away. “… What? I was just making sure he came back all nice and beautiful for Jin-ae.”

“And I thank you for that.” Jin-ae strolled back over, kissing Zoe’s cheek. “You’re the best mage ever and my most precious friend. Don’t ever forget that.”

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marshmallowprotection · 3 years

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Could Eun exist in your other OC storylines? Or just bora’s. And if it isn’t too much what does he think about your ocs?

As far as my CMC-universes go, it’s something like this:

Another Story is Lila’s canon. Her main timeline is that. She exists there with GE Saeran in her own story. She has an AU that takes place within the Deep Route that coincides with Seven’s Route and the Secret Endings, where Saeyoung is in a relationship with Judas and Minji, my other CMCs, and they exist there.

The two of them could exist within the Another Story canon, but their romance would be occurring after the events of Saeran’s After Ending, so I would have to go and create that now that I have the AE to work with. But, knowing that, as far as it goes, Judas and Minji exist within that specific universe right now alone, and I hope that makes sense.

Bora exists within her own timeline. It’s possible that Lila could exist in her timeline because of the Unknown’s Assistant timeline, but not Judas or Minji, for example. But, pretty much, I tend to keep it strictly with Bora alone. Her timeline is a Found Family AU only as far as that goes. Now, knowing that, since Eun is Jumin’s eventual boyfriend, it’s possible that he could exist in other timelines, be it the Another Story one or the Assistant one. Nothing stopping me from doing that.

So, knowing that, the most possible person for him to know is Bora given that he would meet her first. I imagine that he admires her courage and confidence as she’s grown into a stronger person, and he doesn’t know her as a scared kid, he knows her as someone that is thriving living with her father. She’s a goofy kid who likes cats and studying and having fun. Who wouldn’t like Bora? It seems like a crime.

Now, the second most likely candidate for him to know is Lila. Given that she and Saeran would’ve been... involved with what happened to Bora. Nobody is going to drudge up the old memories, but there’s a lot about that that still bothers Jumin whether he says it or not. He doesn’t let bias show, but... it’s more complex than it seems. Lila is very polite with him, so Eun has no reason to dislike her. Bora isn’t upset at either of them anymore, so why wouldn’t he like her and Saeran?

Minji would be a good friend for him. You all know that Minji is a baker and she would eventually go on to open a cafe with Jaehee in the post-SE timeline of that universe. Eun would think she’s a charmer and would be supportive of her craft, he’s a baker, too, though he’s got more training than she does as a home baker. I think they’d trade tips.

Judas is a flirt. He would hit on Eun because he’s got a nice face. Eun wouldn’t mind him. He likes to be chatty and open with other people. They would get along believe it or not. They would just gossip for hours and scold Saeyoung for being too excited about cats.

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