#will covid vaccinated die

[ikishima]

The way these vaccine companies constantly use pics with not a masked person in sight pmtfo their marketing campaign strategy seems contingent on misleading people into believing that the vax will give them total protection and that is NOT TRUE. Even worse when they are tageting seniors with this?

#like on one hand i get that there is a large portion of anti-maskers that do still vax #and this could encourage uptake in that specific demographic #but i truly do not feel like that’s the intent. just capitalizing off of government misinformation #a vaccine will NOT protect you. you need to use multiple layers of protection and a proper mask is pretty much THE most important thing #covid #‘vax and relax’ is a great way to ‘die believing lies’ lets talk about it! #x

[gxlden-angels]

Idk I think it's funny seeing people on twitter say things like "Christians want to tell you it's all a part of Jesus's plan until it's them!" cause like idk about you but I've had family members 100% say they're ready to meet the Lord than interfere with his plans via a Tylenol and a flu shot

#I had a cousin think she'd die from covid and actually lost her husband to it #only to say she wasn't scared of the virus because she had the blood of jesus over her #I still have family that says the blood of jesus will protect them better than any vaccine so they won't get it #I had an aunt scoff at me for taking birth control to control my endometriosis #and use my nebullizer for a severe asthma attack #and she refused to take her singular pill for her blood pressure until she literally couldn't see and her sister forced her to take it #she's in her 90's so ig it's more understandable but also she is v healthy for a 90 year old #like there are so many twitter users speaking from the outside that do not understand just how intense these christians can get #the politcians running off christian values or whatever? they just want power and money #aunt mary lou and uncle billy bob in the middle of nowhere georgia? #they'll hunt you for sport for even thinking about taking a claritin #my grandfather doesn't believe in allergies btw and apparently that's a p common boomer thing too #some believe in allergies but think if you have them you're meant to die from them as intended #it's fuckin wild out here #ex christian #religious trauma

[sage-nebula]

I've decided to make my own post because I am not an idiot, but full disclosure that this post is 50% based on thoughts I was having while I was driving home from the auto repair shop yesterday and 50% a response to a post I saw just now that conflated "redemption arcs" (things fictional characters go through in fictional stories) with "community support" (things real life people offer to other real life people in real life) and how this relates to "fixing people" (making someone who mistreats or abuses themself or others not mistreat or abuse themself or others anymore).

Read my words very carefully.

In fiction, it is more than okay to like whatever type of toxic or fantastical relationship you want. If you like to read stories about toxic, codependent people who are absolutely horrible to one another and will never, ever change, you read those stories. If you like to read stories about a tortured man who just needs The Right Person to teach him to be better, and then he is, sometimes exclusively only to them though, then you read those stories. Sometimes you want to read stories where the main character says "I can fix him" and fails spectacularly, and sometimes you want to read stories where the main character says "I can fix him" and succeeds spectacularly, and either way, you read whatever stories you want, whatever makes you happy, I'm sure it's somewhere in this vast Archive that we call Our Own.

However, in real life?

First of all, "arcs" aren't things real life people have. An arc is something that has a beginning, a middle, and an end. Real life people don't have those, because our stories don't end until we die. Unlike a character, whose life presumably continues even after their story ends (except in circumstances where they die at the end but you know what I mean), we have to keep living day by day, with all the rises and falls that come with it. Now, this does not mean that a person cannot change, or that a person can't get better and learn from their mistakes; but it DOES mean that we can't have a "redemption arc" where we complete a checklist of story beats and then suddenly we're a better person who has experienced the necessary growth to be forgiven. First off, no amount of growth or change ever requires any victims to forgive. And second, that's just not how life works. That's not how change works. Change and growth are baby steps taken each day, and sometimes you go backwards, and you get angry with yourself, but then you pick yourself up and you try again the next day, and the next, and the next. It's an ongoing journey that does not end until you die. That's life.

But second and more importantly, the real idea that I think the original post was trying to get at, but missing the mark on was . . . okay.

So, the original OP of the post (and the person who replied to OP) got angry at the idea that the strawman they had invented (the person who had theoretically said "you can't fix him!") would deny support to someone who needs that help to grow and change as a person. The person who had replied in support of OP added that the strawman clearly believed in punitive justice over rehabilitative justice as well. On the surface, I can see where they are coming from. After all, on the whole humans are a social species and do need support networks in order to not only thrive, but survive. People such as drug addicts need support and assistance in order to get into better places in their lives, and the prison system has been proven to be far less effective at preventing repeated offenses than rehabilitative programs. This is all true.

However.

The reason why "you can't fix them" is still true, and needs to be said and understood particularly by those who are susceptible to falling into abusive relationships (e.g. people who have been abused before, particularly in childhood or adolescence) is because of free will. Specifically, the free will that each of us has, but specifically the other person. Person A can want so, so, so badly to "fix" Person B so that they stop being an abusive alcoholic 75% of the time. But if Person B doesn't actually want to stop being an abusive alcoholic (even if they say they do during the 25% of the time they aren't smacking Person A around), and refuses to put in the work that it takes to become sober and be a better person, then guess what? Nothing Person A does will ever make them be a sober, non-abusive partner. They will be unable to fix Person B. It doesn't matter how much time, energy, money, or commitment they pour into that person. It doesn't matter how much they genuinely, honestly, earnestly love them. Because unless Person B wants to change, and will put the work into doing so, then they will not change, and Person A, for their own health, safety, and sanity, needs to exit that relationship.

Now, does that mean that if, ten years down the line, Person B decides they are ready to put in the work to get their alcoholism under control, no one should help them? Of course not! They should absolutely be put in touch with sober counselors, support groups, medical professionals, friends and family who can help them. Person A could potentially forgive them, if Person A chooses. But that willingness to change and put in the work has to come from within Person B first.

I've been in the position where I've seen people in awful situations just tanking their lives, people I loved and cared about, people I begged to just listen to me and get help, only for them to not . . . and ultimately I had to accept that I couldn't fix them. I could be there to offer support when they were ready to fix themselves, but the core work that needed to be done had to come from within themselves. I couldn't provide that. Not because I was inadequate, not because I didn't love them, but because I couldn't force them to do anything they didn't want, or weren't ready, to do.

So at the end of the day, "you can't fix them" isn't about not giving support. It's about recognizing your limitations as a human being. It's about knowing that:

You cannot force someone to do something they do not want to do.

You cannot force someone to do something they are not ready to do.

Not being able to help or save someone is not a moral failing of yours.

Not being able to help or save someone does not mean you do not love or care about them.

Providing support should never come at risk of your own health and safety, physical or otherwise.

When you love someone, it can be really hard to accept this. You think, "I know I can make them want to try. I know I can inspire them to want to change. I know they love me, so if I just love them a little harder, they will want to change." Nine times out of ten, though, that is just not true. And if someone is abusing you, it is not worth the literal risk to your life to keep trying. You are worth more than that. You are more than just someone else's band-aid.

Keep yourselves safe in 2024.

#not an abuse scenario but: my mom died of covid-19 #it's relevant to this discussion bc she was a trump-supporting republican who refused to get vaccinated #bc the far-right propaganda shows she watched told her the vaccine ''wasn't a real vaccine'' #and i know this bc when i literally BEGGED MY PARENTS to get the vaccine my mother LAUGHED IN MY FACE and TOLD ME ''it's not a real vaccine #so anyway both my parents got it. my father almost died from it #my mom seemed like she was doing much better . . . except she CONTINUED to smoke heavily while both having covid #and recovering from covid #and once again i said hey don't you think you should not smoke cigarettes while recovering from a serious respiratory disease #and once again she laughed at me #anyway 2 months later her heart gave out in her sleep and she died #bc her body couldn't handle the stress of the cigarettes + alcohol (she was also an alcoholic) after covid had done its thing to her #she was only 56yo #so this was a case where i wanted to fix my mother. i tried so hard. and i've similarly tried to fix my father (who is still alive) #but i can't! my dad almost died and my mom DID die and my dad STILL won't get the vaccine #I HAVE BEGGED THIS MAN. WHO IS NOW 73. TO GET VACCINATED. AND HE STILL WILL NOT. #you can't fix people!!! you can't!!! you can offer them support if they want to fix themselves #you can help them fix themselves but you can't fix them. you just can't. no matter how much you love them #and in abuse cases it can be really fucking dangerous to keep trying. #anyway. that's my TED talk. thanks for attending or w/e it is they say

[suncaptor]

when a site trying to claim someone's research is incorrect by saying there's no proof the covid vaccine can be harmful ☠️☠️ die a million deaths forever try again.

#incoherents #do NOT think nearly anyone besides me and my sister need to worry about the covid vaccine hurting them who will see this #but like. to say it doesnt cause harm. do you have any idea what i can do. die. #to be clear i do agree the study they were saying was untrustworthy is but base it in something else please 😭😭

[katebeckets]

ugh i’m so far removed from anything even resembling a broadway fandom at this point but i need to know…why do we feel icky listening to laura osnes?

Ooooh Laura Osnes lol (also know I spent like thirty minutes looking for these screenshots lmfao)

For me I already had some weird vibes after seeing her in Broadway princess party in 2018 (went mainly for her and left a bigger fan of pretty much everyone else? She just seemed very inauthentic in some way) but the bigger thing was with covid vaccinations.

Basically there was some big backlash when an article was published about her not being allowed to perform in something because she wasn’t covid vaccinated. I don’t know what the article said exactly because I only saw it through her response, I think, but it basically was something about her being rude or upset or whatever because she had to be vaccinated (if anyone knows that part feel free to jump in).

At the end of 2022 (at least in interviews, maybe it was sooner if you still followed her) she started talking about cancel culture and how this basically ended her Broadway career.

The vaccination stuff then revealed other beliefs, like her being pro-guns.

So yeah, since then it just has tainted some of my enjoyment of these songs I really love. I’ll leave some other things in the tags that are more my personal feelings, but that’s the gist.

#at first it was pretty black and white for me #the vaccinations #but I had a practicum client who surprised me when she said she wasn’t vaccinated #except she explained why and it’s that she’s Black and the covid vaccine was so new #and she didn’t trust that the vaccine was safe for her specifically given things like the Tuskegee experiment #so for me it was the fact that she’s a white woman #and argued it was about family planning and personal choice #which I get but also… if you die of Covid you can’t have a family #and if it’s about parenthood there are other ways to become a parent #<- which is not me saying foster/adoption is an alternative to birth control #I literally work with foster and adoptive families #but it felt especially insensitive given how personal this was to the Broadway community #and people like nick cordero/amanda kloots #anyway #anon #answered

[memequeen92]

unfortunately I have tagged several of my fics as abandoned/unlikely to be finished

whether or not it is temporary remains to be seen - but treat it as if it's permanent since for all intents and purposes it sort of is right now

I didn't really want to do that honestly, because I do want to finish them - but having covid twice in one year as an already chronically ill person has... really, really drained me both physically and mentally and it's unfortunately going to take a while for me to really recover properly. I have zero energy for writing or really anything that requires much thinking, and probably won't for a while.

Sorry ya'll, wish I wasn't totally drained but covid fucked me up (again, lmao)

#dont think i forgot about you anon who sent me that ask abt springtraps kinks i WILL answer it it might just take a while #genuinely would rather have broken a bone than gotten covid it would have been less taxing on my existence #i was going to say 'would have rather gotten the flu' at first but ive never had the flu #and the one time i got a flu vaccine i genuinely thought i was going to die. so i dont do that anymore. because it was horrible. #and i like to not be dying #i got the brainfog kind of covid both times 0/10 would not recommend #ive said this same thing like probably 20 times now but i feel bad im so sorry dkfjhnh

[drbtinglecannon]

Really love that some conspiracy theory brainrotted dipshit can spout lies and nazi propaganda for 10 min straight to no one being bothered but the second I turned to him and said "You know literally none of that is true" the entire room tenses and gets upset

#definitely think I ruined any chances of getting to volunteer at the humane society now for doing that but holy fuck that guy was stupid #anyway we got another catson. I'll make a different post about that in a bit #but I did love seeing the guy's face when I informed him to be able to go to school he had to be vaxxed for dozens of things so no his blood #isn't “pure”. dumb fuckhead. also LOVE that he was unmasked bragging about not having the covid vaccine at all #have fun dying ig but don't do it around other people you selfish idiot #anyway #wear a fucking mask #flu & covid are rampant rn. and in case you don't gaf about others like that guy doesn't do it so you yourself don't fucking die

[jacobied]

feeling fucked up tonight<3

#i cant stop being stupid and insane about my book MAYBE not even definitive yet getting a french translation like haha what if i did some #hot girl shit and called it off and died ? :3 #i havent drawn or written anything Good in like months i feel like removing my bones from my body like god get ouT im so stuck on everythin #and now i dont even want to do the Good Cool Thing thats right in front of me for god knows what reason other than im fucking crazy #also every other week i realize tht i will nawt be able to get anything meaningful out of therapy [as if i can afford it lol<3] for minimum #the next couple years bc if i bring up me being lonely me being isolated they're just gonna tell me to stop being scared of covid<3 #like girlie said that to me in 2021 ! the vaccine was JUST out lol like the fuck ? what the fuck ? guess i'll die here ! #jade.exe

[sapphicmumrik]

thinking about Knuckles getting sick and Vanilla becoming concerned because they haven’t seen him for a while and getting Tails to take her to Angel Island and finding him passed out and feverish in front of the Master Emerald because he caught something last time on the surface and had no way of communicating with them

Knuckles waking in his hut to find Vanilla grinding island herbs that he taught her about and she gathered in a mortar and pestle and insisting that he’s not sick and she tells him to sit his ass down, the Emerald is fine Sonic and Tails are guarding it and how DARE YOU YOUNG MAN *GRINDS THE HERBS HARDER*

anyway Knuckles experiencing motherly love and anger at the same time

#fern.sth #I just want Knuckles to have familial bonds and feel loved ok #of course it’s not inspired by my Covid experience #or it might be #newsflash knuckles has never been vaccinated and would die the moment an unfamiliar viral infection touched him

[thisgodwontforgiveyou]

having to fucking slog through the miki and kozue runescape tutorial level and then the go in the dark rose arc and then the culmination of the juri carpet bombing episode and you get sent to literal hell for the rest of the series

#the pacing in the show literally being the fucking waiting period after you get the covid vaccine to make sure you dont die #AND THE PROBLEM IS LITERALLY EVERYONE DIED #NO ONE WHO WATCHED THIS SHOW RECEIVED EVEN THE MOST BASIC INNOCULATION FROM THE FIRST ARC #DESPITE IT PURELY EXISTING TO GO LOOK BRO YOURE GONNA NEED TO SIT DOWN FOR THIS ONE #AND THATS HOW YOU GET PEOPLE WHO GO Mikage was such a tragic character :( ASKING WHAT THE SHADOW PLAYERS EPISODE MEANS #BECAUSE ACTUALLY PROCESSING THE COMPLETELY DIRECT UNAMBIGUOUS PLOT STORY GIVEN TO THEM REQUIRES ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT THEYRE WATCHING #AND THEYD RATHER DIE

[heavenlydreamangelflyhigh]

it does disturb me how little times have changed in terms of treatment of the ill based on socioeconomic status..the wealthy can afford to be cared for at beck and call and recieve the best of the best treatment without send thought while the impoverished and marginalized individuals are left to die alone and cold

i remember at the beginning of covid i was living with my family in a mold infested and close knit apartment unit and it was absolutely petrifying because our lungs were already compromised, there was poor circulation and we could not (and still can't, really) afford to go to the hospital if any of us fell ill - meanwhile we were all witnessing politicians and celebrities alike fall ill and be able to get medications and return back to relatively alright levels of health within even a month or less

#obviously this was pre covid specific medications + vaccines so yes some wealthy people did die as well but its just. #the treatment was so different.

[sound-overlord]

not to be annoyed at ppl who are annoying but if a headline says 'a hundred million americans are exposed to HEART DISEASE bc of VACCINES' and then the subtitle is '2.8 % of ppl studied had elevated protein levels that are known to be heart disease risk factors' then the body of the text says 'we only looked at ppl with extremely stressful jobs' and you think covid vaccines are dangerous maybe you just cant fucking read

#not to mention the article goes on to recommend doing home remedies #like taking vitamine c supplements to avoid getting sick instead of getting vaccinated #ndhdmdj OKAY girlies #if covid can give you heart disease anyway what in the fuck do u care abt these vaccines for #u think a few more vitamines and maybe a little ivermectin (fucking lice treatment) is gonna prevent a fucking infection? #u think ur immune system magically even knows what coronavirus looks like to attack it when its never seen it before ? #u like it when hoardes of ppl die for your convenience bc u think your not a carrier??

[albonium]

trying not to cry at work bc the asshole that keeps telling me to take my mask off said it again and said that we were being lied to about masks and vaccines . i'm not just upset i'm mostly angry and if i didn't leave i would have regretted what i would have said. i literally told him i'd rather wear a mask bc i'm at risk and my mom is too and he kept bugging me about it. i've never been more thankful that the lab door clothes during the evening and can't be opened by anyone that doesn't work in there

#can anti mask vaccine covid deniers just die already

[glass-trash-bab]

Every time my dad says something about politics, the more I wish I were dead

#piece if shit still doesnt think the covid vaccine works. hes an emt #i fucking hate it here i want to break shit #i hate being related to him i want to die

[oscar-piastri]

i can hear conversations from the break room and this is how i find out that one of the coworker i get along with is actually an anti-vax and doesn’t believe covid can be deadly. someone hold me before i say something

#as someone who lost my grandfather because of covid because my anti vax uncle gave it to him… i will fight #my uncle and aunt are both anti vax and yes they told my grandparents the vaccine is bullshit so they didnt got vaccinated #now my grandpa is dead and grandma is letting herself die #it probably would not have happened if people were vaccinated #tw death #death tw

[gentaroukisaragi]

Sincerely sucks to hear that other people who took masking and distancing seriously finally succumbing to covid.

#i got covid at the end of october. from my mom who is a front line worker but she had been really lax about properly quarantining and #wearing her mask in the house which is how me and my dad caught it. which on the one hand i can sympathize #wearing the mask for a while sucks and being stuck in a room all day also sucks #but on the other hand she gave me and my dad covid :/ #but yeah it really sucks that disease is still spreading #maybe my solace is that at least i didnt die from it and it was very mild (thanks vaccines) but you know id rather not catch it at all #and that its still spreading feels insulting to the people who died and the people who may still potentially die from it #idk man im just. it sucks. #common sayings #covid19 2020 #sure whatever