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winterinhimring · 1 year

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So I recently saw a post with a screencap of this scene in it:

And good heavens. Is this not a perfect visual metaphor of Obi-Wan's role in the entire Star Wars universe? Supporting the wounded Light, unable to stop her from dying, but still steadfastly good and patient up to and through the darkest hour, waiting (though he doesn't know it, yet) for that Light to be reborn in a padawan?

#star wars #the clone wars #daughter of mortis #the force #obi-wan kenobi #the guiding light #was his callsign for a REASON #winter says things #winter screencaps the clone wars #meta

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simonjadis · 4 years

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Anon I’m ASSUMING that these are from the same person; apologies if they are not

I would say that my feelings are similar to yours, but not quite identical ...

Disney’s handling has been imperfect, and some of the mistakes have been made the highest level (I know that people give Kathleen Kennedy a hard time, but if rumor is to be believed, some of the interference that made IX kind of weird came from higher than that)

for example, Kennedy said in an interview that she tries to find people who just make big, successful movies to make sure that these are also big, successful movies. I can understand that as being a safe bet from a business stand point, but that’s not the same thing as finding someone passionate about very specifically telling good, new Star Wars stories, which we did not really get in the Sequel Trilogy

(one of the most common theories that I saw from TLJ apologists was that people didn’t like that it was new/different than what they were expecting, which was really not the issue for me or my friends. Also it was just a speedrun of parts of Episodes V and VI)

I think that I’m “too close” to Star Wars to see it as a financial asset rather than a beloved universe full of characters and stories that I adore, but I don’t think that “literally just rehash the Original Trilogy for two movies and barely acknowledge any other part of Star Wars until IX” was a good idea

Rey deserved her own story. and Luke deserved to not be retroactively robbed of his

as for George Lucas, I do think that years of backlash over the Prequels sucked the fun out of it for him. Also, who doesn’t want four billion dollars? it was a sweetheart deal for Disney, of course

the sad thing is that this meant the end of Clone Wars, because Disney took one look at Lucasfilm’s budget and was like “OH NO YOU CANNOT SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY ON A CARTOON” which is why Season 6 was paid for by Netflix and why Maul: Son of Dathomir was a comic

I love Star Wars Rebels and I’m not trying to knock the show at all, but the budgetary difference was palpable. Clone Wars did have it a little easier because of the Clone Troopers (all having the same face), but on Rebels, you notice that 90% of the Imperials are the same guy wearing a hat with his visor obscuring most of his face. market scenes show just a few people (but plenty of Storm Troopers)

the designs of the main characters -- Ezra, Hera, Sabine, Zeb, Kallus, Thrawn, Kanan, etc -- are great and loving and detailed and most of those change a little over time, but there’s a reason that we only see so many planets on Rebels. look at the huge armies and crowds in Rebels. my friend @drunkkenobi is the first who pointed out to me that in Clone Wars, you sometimes see lines of ships (Space Traffic) and each ship in line will be unique, distinct from the others

it’s not Rebels’ fault that they didn’t have that kind of budget. that’s also why their space battles (and space ships) never quite look right. meanwhile, for Clone Wars, if they wanted a particular scene or ship that went over their planned budget, all that they had to do was ask Uncle George

eccentric billionaires funding expensive media isn’t necessarily the most sustainable model for storytelling, but it sure worked out well for Clone Wars and for The Expanse

(Jeff Bezos personally called up the head of Amazon Prime programming, who had already been considering acquiring the extremely good but expensive show, and was like “hey the cast from this show is at a thing where I am, I’d love to just tell them that their show is saved, give me it?” and we saw as many new locations in Season 4 as we did in the first three seasons)

but streaming -- where you actually get money directly from customers who then, through their activity on your platform, show you exactly what they want to see aka what is keeping them on your platform -- offers a new opportunity for high quality genre media. remember, scifi and fantasy were EVERYWHERE in the ‘90s and the early aughts, and then because too expensive for regular TV unless they had huge audiences. only through streaming do we have these new Star Treks, The Witcher, and the real possibility of a new Stargate series

why do I bring up streaming? because

The Mandalorian goes to show that Disney can 100% do good Star Wars. Rebels was good, despite its budget, but can you imagine how much better it would have been if it had aired on Disney+

as with the DC movies (three of which are good and I’m also excited for Birds of Prey), the solution to the our-movies-made-a-lot-of-money-but-aren’t-strictly-speaking-good is literally just “let the people who do the cartoons make the movies”

and now we’re getting a final, seventh (half) season of Clone Wars! twelve episodes looking better than the show has ever looked!!

if you’re like me, you probably thought to yourself “gee, only 12?” and, cynically, you figured that it’s a trick -- announced at ComicCon in 2018 to build up the first wave of hype for Disney+

and it is ... but it 100% worked on me, I signed up for Disney+ and will pay anything for Clone War

my HOPE is that this is a test run to see if people really like high-quality animated Star Wars stories enough to continue with it. there’s only so much clone wars that one can cover (my suspicion is that we will see Ahsoka fake her death during Order 66 in these eps, so yep, that’s the end of the Clone Wars right there)

imagine a well-written series with everything that Clone Wars had in terms of content and visual quality, but it’s set after Episode IX. to my frustration, IX ends with effectively the same worldstate as VI which essentially means that nothing much happened in the Sequel Trilogy. but imagine a series set after IX. we could see a new set of (Force-wielding) characters. we could see Rey, Finn, Poe, and Rose during some episodes. Rose could finally get to do something that’s not an insulting fool’s errand (she deserves so much better!!!!!)

we don’t need a new Big Scary Empire/First Order thing, just organized crime and pirates and Hutts and bounty hunters and individual planet systems going to war as the characters try to assemble a NEW New Republic (gods I hate the unchanged worldstate)

now, I know that Star Wars Resistance is not ... reassuring. this is the only screencap that I have from it because I couldn’t get into it. it’s not the animation (I enjoyed Tron Uprising and Iron Man: Armored Adventures and this is the same kind of deal), but three things:

-I watch Star Wars for the Force primarily; other stuff can be cool but I need the Force

-I will never care about ships racing and really I don’t care about an individual ship flying; I’m a Command Ship kind of space nerd

-apparently the writing doesn’t improve much during the first season. people tell the main character to not do something, then he does it, and disaster ensues. that’s ... it’s fine, it’s fine to exist as a show, it’s just not for me

obviously, not all Star Wars media is for me, but when something -- like TLJ or the Sequel Series as a whole (even though VII and IX are enjoyable) or Resistance -- disappoints me, I would never accuse it of “ruining Star Wars”

Star Wars is a whole franchise. the breadth of canon isn’t all wiped away by some disappointments. was the MCU ruined by Age of Ultron? no. it was a bad movie but from the same franchise that gave us The Winter Soldier and Thor Ragnarok. hell, Dawn of Justice doesn’t “ruin” Wonder Woman or Aquaman or Shazam. bad movies aren’t contagious

for the past several years, the Entitled Dude crowd has felt empowered. they were radicalized in the altright/redpill/MGTOW/meninist/nazi/gamergate/comicsgate/etc spheres of the internet and now they just have a reflex where they see any sort of representation and decry it as “SJW,” which they also seem to think is a bad thing

in the same way that well-meaning people on tumblr can get radicalized into being antis/puriteens, people with certain vulnerabilities on reddit or youtube can get sucked into a world that tells them that they are the default and that other people existing is “political” in media and in real life, and that people being upset by outright cruelty towards them is both funny and means that the cruel person is the victor. they need therapy and studios need to not listen to them

unfortunately, sometimes there are movies that are bad despite having things like solid representation. Ghostbusters 2016 was a delight, but my friends and I with whom I saw TLJ (all of us queer feminists) left the theater angry. we’ve bitten our tongues a lot (even if it seems otherwise) because publicly criticizing the film too often leads some incel monster to chime in with agreement, and we’re just like

the redpillgate crowed et all is a natural ally of conservative white evangelicals, even though the former group is generally made up of New Atheists (the short version is atheists who hold socially conservative views because racism/misogyny/transphobia benefit them without using christianity as an excuse). it’s kind of like how terfs will side with conservative hate groups because, though they’re natural enemies, they both despite trans people just for existing

unfortunately, when you’re looking at who went to see a movie or who hated it, not everyone posts with an ID card saying exactly their demographic. which is only going to make studios like Disney even more nervous about including queer content in Star Wars and in the MCU (I mean real queer content with characters whose names don’t have to be searched on a wiki)

that was a bit of a tangent, but yeah. sorry if I missed anything

#star wars #clone wars #anon #ask #anon ask

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winterinhimring · 2 years

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Here, have a random screencap of Mace and Ponds being friends.

#star wars #the clone wars #winter screencaps the clone wars #mace windu #commander ponds

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winterinhimring · 2 years

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On the Jedi and Accusations of Kidnapping

This is one of the most common accusations against the Jedi in the fandom, and, funny enough, it's actually addressed in canon! I was watching The Disappeared arc in the Clone Wars (which features Jar-Jar Binks flirting, by the way, just so you all know what I endured to get you all this information), and this explanation was given for why the Jedi and the Bardottans don't have a good relationship:

First point: when the Jedi were accused of child-stealing, they stopped bringing Bardottan children into the Order. Kidnappers generally don't go away when you accuse them of kidnapping, they find a way to do it in spite of you. And the Dagoyan Masters don't focus on combat - it wouldn't have been hard for the Jedi to just force them to give up their children. But they didn't.

Second point: Mace states that the Dagoyan Masters believed that the Jedi were taking children against their will: i.e. the Jedi were not actually doing so.

Third point, though it's harder to see in a screencap: all the Jedi react to Mace's statement of 'we were labeled as kidnappers' with clear sorrow. You can see it best on Ki-Adi in this picture, but all of them are obviously saddened and maybe even a little hurt by the accusations.

@gffa, I hope you don't mind being tagged by a random follower, but this scene reminded me strongly of you and your steadfast defence of the Jedi Order!

#star wars #the clone wars #the jedi order #yoda #mace windu #ki-adi mundi #winter says things #winter screencaps the clone wars #meta #the jedi are not kidnappers

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winterinhimring · 2 years

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A moment I noticed while watching s7 of the clone wars - Crosshair takes a moment to comfort Echo after he mentions 'feeling like a real trooper again'.

Look at the reaction faces, too - Anakin looks flabbergasted, but Echo is just touched and grateful.

I wasn't expecting this from Cross, since he's characterised as the team jerk practically from the get-go, but I like the depth it hints at in his character.

#star wars #the clone wars #anakin skywalker #echo #crosshair #winter screencaps the clone wars

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winterinhimring · 2 years

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Here is Plo Koon saying hello to R2 while booting him up.

That is all.

#star wars #the clone wars #plo koon #being adorable #winter screencaps the clone wars

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winterinhimring · 2 years

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Ahsoka and Anakin's faces when Ahsoka introduces herself to a droid as a Jedi Knight approximately five seconds after Anakin takes her as his Padawan are a joy and a delight to me.

#star wars #the clone wars #anakin skywalker #ahsoka tano #yoda's gaggle of idiots #winter screencaps the clone wars #humour

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winterinhimring · 2 years

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OK, Star Wars fandom: we are collectively sleeping on the source of utter DRAMA that is the 2D Clone Wars animated series. Behold my blurry screenshots of The Drama™:

Levitating Count Dooku.

"Oh yes, I'm just a foolish old man who knows nothing of the Dark Side."

"SIKE!!" (bonus: cloak levitation)

This is Obi-Wan Kenobi. In clone armour. On a speederbike. With a lance. I do not know why the series thought this was necessary, but I love it.

Obi-Wan at the head of a detachment of...clone lancers? Is this a Thing in the Clone Wars, that they just joust on speederbikes?

More dramatic Obi-Wan. And, finally:

The Most Dramatic Screenshot I have ever taken in my life.

And there's so much more.

#star wars #2d clone wars #count dooku #obi-wan kenobi #winter says things #my screencaps #related to #things i liked about the prequels #clone wars 2003 #winter screencaps the clone wars

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winterinhimring · 2 years

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You've heard of Darth Vader standing on a TIE fighter. Now get ready for:

Mace Windu riding a vulture droid.

While deflecting blaster bolts and rescuing gunships.

Darth Vader wishes he was this cool.

#star wars #clone wars 2003 #mace windu #winter screencaps the clone wars #humour #my screencaps

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winterinhimring · 2 years

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2003 Clone Wars, whatever else it may have gotten wrong, nailed 3PO.

#c3po #padme amidala #clone wars 2003 #winter screencaps the clone wars #my screencaps #humour

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winterinhimring · 2 years

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Fox and Padmé seamlessly working together without a moment's coordination beforehand makes me happy and also gives me a lot of questions. Have they arrested people together before or something?

#winter screencaps the clone wars #star wars #the clone wars #padme amidala #commander fox

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winterinhimring · 2 years

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