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dalbit0 · 1 year
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who u gonna call?
[ ghost investigators gusu trio au 👻 ]
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archiveoftragedies · 1 month
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In mdzs, when the public opinion started shifting and everyone turned on jgy it made me feel vindicated. Finally they're siding with me against the guy that keeps pissing me off. But that only lasted an instant. Slowly, progressively, I started going wait. Wait no hold on. Go back. I didn't mean it that way go back. Because they were saying about jgy the exact same bullshit they had been saying about wwx the entire novel. And suddenly it felt really off.
Then, during the flashbacks leading up to Nightless City, I kept thinking back on that thing wwx tells nhs in volume one, when nhs explains his family's solution to their haunted saber problem. "Well, that's hitting a bit close to the demonic cultivation path". Doesn't nhs refuse to swordfight as well? Is he even carrying a sword? How come he can get away with this (and wwx can't)?
Wwx and jgy have similar origins but were raised in different environments. They learned similar survival methods and tried to play by the rules up until they couldn't anymore. They had the two more prominent roles in winning the sunshot campaign, and yet everyone forgot about that the second they decided they were irredeemable. They met similar ends, fighting and protecting people they loved.
Nhs became the kind of person his brother would despise in trying to avenge him. He became like his brother's murderer. His survival method is also trying to make himself seem harmless, not with polite smiles or clever distractions but with tears. The only reason he didn't meet the same end as the other two is that he managed to stay out of the public's eye, and because his reputation was unstained from the beginning. Although I should note that he is Nie Mingjue's half-brother, which might hint at a more complicated heritage, more similar to that of the other two, than one would suspect at first glance. But whether that's the case or not, the point is that nobody would call nhs a bastard, and that means that people will overlook certain things he does that have condemned the other two to death.
That's what makes them such great narrative foils. In the end all three of them are cheating, but nhs had better cards to begin with.
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bnnywngs · 5 months
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wei wuxian being adopted by wen ruohan is not only the third young master of qishan, no one fear him, and frankly, they prefer him over wen chao
no, wen wuxian would be the annoying 13yo who would give a scroll to his sect leader predicting the outcome of the war the wen want to start, with two outcomes possible - wen ruohan dead and the war is lost, or wen ruohan win, but dies later because of rebels - and why they should not put this plan forward
wen ruohan is the tired guardian of a genius child (he thinks wei wuxian is right)
(and sends him to gusu to study when he's 15 after wei wuxian's non stoping begging, in the end, it's a ✨ vacation ✨ to wen ruohan)
(somehow he has to deal with two eloping teenagers now and a very angry lan qiren)
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add1ctedt0you · 4 months
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Sucker for pain
That's for all the writers who look at jiang cheng and decide to put him through other unimaginable woes. <3 As if his life wasn't rough enough lol.
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aleki-lives-here · 29 days
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trans-xianxian · 3 months
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one thing about the core reveal scene is that it's one of the only times someone defends wei wuxian just out of like. anger and contempt. there's the desperate way that jiang cheng protects wei wuxian from his mother and the wens, and the gentle quiet way that lan wangji stands up for wei wuxian against the world, but it is So endlessly refreshing to see someone just be fucking mad that wei wuxian is being mistreated. wen nings fearsome, righteous anger is so good especially considering that wen ning is a character who so rarely ever let's himself show any anger at all, even when he has so much to be angry about
and he doesn't even get angry in a reserved, polite way either he literally tells jiang cheng to his face that he will never be as good as wei wuxian. saying that serves absolutely no purpose other than to hurt him. it doesn't reveal anything more about the core, its not a cold truth that jiang cheng needs to learn, it's not even really something that strictly Defends wei wuxian against anything. he literally just says it because he Knows it's exactly the thing that will hurt the most, and in that moment what wen ning wants to do is to hurt jiang cheng. and it's delicious
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Wei Wuxian + Crying
"Can someone tell me... what I'm supposed to do now?"
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halenhusky309 · 7 months
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"It doesn't matter that WWX is a servant's son, because he was treated better by Jiang Fengmian than his own son. WWX was privileged and cannot imagine the lives of marginalized people." - bullshit from Twitter
I beg any motherfuckers that think a parent being firm to their own child is bad parenting, should never have kids, because you will turn them into future entitled and apathy dickbags.
Plus, an orphan child even get adopted into a family is not being privileged, considering they can still be abused by the adoptive family, which is the case of WWX.
Also, JFM being nice to WWX and providing basic needs for WWX does not mean he treated WWX better than JC. Y'all don't understand what disciplines look like.
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winepresswrath · 3 months
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Oh so you are one of the jiang' soupbot' yanli who will throw jiang cheng under the bus for little xianxian. Cool
this like the time someone accused me of only caring about Wei Wuxian's feelings. thank you for the laugh anon but also are you lost.
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gentlegentian · 5 months
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I feel like the true cruelty of the lan sect is a really overlooked topic in the mdzs fandom, because when you think about it...
they practically forced madam lan into marriage so she wouldn't be executed because she killed one of her teachers, but gave her no trial or chance to explain why, and once she was married they simply locked her away and that was that. qingheng-jun then locked himself into seclusion once he had a kid and that was that, had no business with the rest of the sect and left xichen and wangji to grow up alone.
not to mention the fact that wangji even being born is suspicious... xichens conception makes sense, as they would've needed a sect heir, but wangji? how would he have been concieved, if madame lan was trapped away and qingheng-jun was in seclusion. either this is a plot hole im looking way too deep into or theres something darker happening there
in any case, the twin jades most likely did not have a good childhood. like at all. their father was completely absent, and once their mother died they were practically parentless. sure lan qiren raised them, but he was also acting as the lan sect leader whilst qingheng-jun was away, so i doubt he held much involvement in their raising other than making sure they stuck to the rules and were fed etc
SPEAKING OF THE RULES. the punishments the kids in the lan sect had to deal with?????? the fact that nhs, wwx and jc were beaten for rule breaking whilst they were staying at the lan sect as pupils just makes me wonder how badly they treat their own lan disciples if thats how they treat special guests from other clans. they were fifteen when that happened, FIFTEEN, so clearly the lan sect has no problem with LITERALLY BEATING children to teach a lesson.
its basically just abuse to keep a system in place, and it makes me wonder just how many times the twin jades suffered like that as kids to be as 'perfect' as they are as adults
the lan are so corrupt in their ways and i hate how we dont fully see that in the story until wangji is whipped for protecting wei ying. the whole situation is so fucking cruel and unnecessary it makes my blood boil whenever i reread/rewatch that part, because yes wangji did wrong by injuring the elders but the only reason he did so was because they were refusing to listen to him and quite literally trying to murder his lover.
i get he committed treason or whatever by fighting the elders but 33 whip lashes all in one go with NO breaks or healing time?? with a magical cultivated punishment whip as well, its genuinely like they were trying to kill him. even if he didnt die from the lashings themselves he could've gotten an infection, or had severe blood loss, or hell they coulve broken his spine with the force of it. it took so long for him to heal from that, and it left him with so many scars both physical and mental. that level of injury would've likely left him with some form of chronic pain or illness as well, and it was just so cruel for a situation that didn't ever need to come to this.
they forced him into seclusion, just like his father, and punished him for defending himself, just like they did his mother. xichen ended up similarly as well, with his seclusion after the events with jgy. the lan elders had seen the horrific end qingheng-jun and madame lan had, and yet did nothing to stop their children from facing the same trauma, even making theirs worse.
the lans praise themselves as a sect that sticks to righteousness and principles, when realistically its just full of hypocrites holding onto power by means of fear and punishment. they say that lwj broke the rules by fighting to save wwx, and yet somehow torturing him was completely within the rules of the clan.
their rules and image are merely a cover up for the downright abuse and silencing of their disciples, and its just so fucked up. i could rant about this for so much longer, but also wanna see what other people think before i delve into some of the other topics i have in mind that relate
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waitineedaname · 12 days
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reading the novel, i love how blatantly indulgent of the juniors lan wangji is. when he was their age, he was duelling wei wuxian over broken rules and lived his life by behaving as precisely as what was expected of him, and now as an adult, he's basically letting the juniors do whatever they want as long as it isn't unsafe and generally letting the kids act like kids
which leaves wei wuxian to have to be the one playing bad cop. wei "has never followed anyone else's rules in his life" "bane of lan qiren's existence" "public enemy number one" wuxian has to be the one being like "oh my god don't burn money on someone else's doorstep, don't you know that's rude. you kids need to focus on your studies more, why isn't anyone teaching you anything useful, do i have to do everything myself around here"
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poorly-drawn-mdzs · 1 year
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We can’t keep doing this.
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yin-shimo · 3 months
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on god wwx is you @viohles 🗣🗣🗣🗣 [i am ofc lwj here😌☝️]
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bnnywngs · 11 months
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Lan Wangji and Jin Zixuan were standing awkwardly by Cloud Recesses's entrance, frowns in their beautiful faces. They were gently forced by their mother and uncle to come here and wait for their betrothal's arrival for the Gusu Lan classes. It was the polite thing to do, and the worst thing they could ever do.
They both hated the fact they were promised to women they barely knew, the teenage experience of falling in love being taken away from them without even questioning.
Laugh could be heard as well as loud talking, making Jin Zixuan scowl and shifting a little to the side so he wouldn't be staring at the people climbing up the steps.
Lan Wangji was too proper for this, so he just blinked and waited patiently.
Soon enough, a small flock of purple robes came out from the mountain curve, a young trio leading the rest of the disciples while talking and laughing. Two girls and one boy, their betrotheds and their younger brother, who's also the heir of their sext, Yunmeng Jiang.
The tallest girl, using darker colors and a bright red ribbon on her hair, threw her head back and laughed loud enough for them to hear clearly, while the smaller, Jiang Yanli, giggles behind her delicate lilac sleeve.
That was Wei Wuxian, his current companion's soon to be headache. Wife. He means wife.
Jin Zixuan scoffed, he never really got along of the girl and her brother, and almost always were running from his own fiance - Jiang Yanli. He turned his head slightly to look at Lan Wangji and say something about Wei Wuxian's lack of manners, and got the shock of his life when the other boy looked stricken, eyes wide and mouth minimally open, his ears in the brightest red.
Looking at where Lan Wangji was staring, he saw Wei Wuxian flipping her hair out of her face when the wind blew. She looked up and realize they were there and, clearly staring at Lan Wangji, she blushed, looking shy.
"No." Jin Zixuan declared.
Lan Wangji blinked and look at him for a quick moment before going back to staring at his fiance who started to walk faster.
"No! I refuse!" then, he turned back and walking (stomped) back to his quarters.
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justalilhime · 2 years
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Cw: (fictional) physical and emotional abuse
I find it so amusing that a lot of people when discussing YZY'a abuse of WWX either claim that it wasn't that bad (in fact, it was that bad, and it's even clearer in the lotus pod extra), that it was acceptable in that society's culture/is historically correct (ignoring the fact that the author is a modern person with modern values telling you through the text how fucked up that was and how in the text no one else exhibited the same behavior as her despite it being supposedly their right to; they had better morals and ethics than her) or that WWX was supposed to be singled out and endure the punishment because he was the Head Disciple and this is the point that really gets to me because... Why do people think YZY has any right to punish any disciple?
She forced her way into marrying JFM, then made it her personal mission to make everyone's lives hell with her entitlement and abuse (a side note: I do think most of JFM's passiveness and apathetic nature is actually a result of said abuse, a self-preservation mechanism of sorts, but that's both personal and topic for another post). YZY married into the clan and gave birth to two children, one of them the heir, but that's literally the only thing she does for YMJ. She rarely spends time at Lotus Pier, what little she spends there are unpleasant to everyone involved. Her vitriol poisoned JC against the values of his own clan, the one he's supposed to inherit, and made it impossible for JFM to even try to teach him (and I honestly commend him for still trying anyway, as seen post-Xuanwu incident). She disrespects the dead and drags their names as though they're trash — one of them being WCZ, who used to be a part of YMJ and (possibly) made good contributions to the clan, as he was let go peacefully. And, the most important of them, she rejects the title of Jiang-furen. She always goes by Yu-furen (a title that belongs to her older sister, not her; at best, by logic, if she was still in Meishan Yu, she'd be third madam Yu, instead of simply Yu-furen). While some may argue it's her way to fight patriarchy and show love for her natal clan, it's still downright insulting to the Jiang clan and her husband.
She chooses not to associate herself with them by name and behavior. She doesn't even share the same servants and lives in completely different quarters. But of course, despite all this, she still enjoys the power of being the madam of the Jiang clan. All because no one dares go against her, lest they become the next target of her hatred. That, too, is another form of her abuse. But she doesn't have the right to when she chooses to reject everything the Jiangs stand for.
So yeah, what she did to WWX was fucked up beyond imagination, because 1) he was a child, 2) it was abuse, and 3) she was using an authority and power she shouldn't have the right to after everything.
If you read this and come saying any "buts" I will block you, btw 😂 Unless you're a mutual, which we shall agree to disagree, but I won't discuss further if your opinion differs. I have no patience and no will to hear/read abuse apologism of any kind (again, for personal reasons). I just wanted to type out some thoughts. Thanks for reading I guess 😂
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piosplayhouse · 2 years
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Ok sure it's sad that wei wuxian is tormented by nightmares of his torture in the burial mounds. But shang qinghua was having nightmares about a middle aged man slapping him with a giant hairy cucumber
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