Fishface: Welcome to the "Fuck Raphael" club, where we all talk about how much we hate Raphael.
Mona Lisa: …
Mona Lisa: I may have misunderstood the purpose of this club.
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TMNT 2012 Characters Ages
Here’s a list of some of the characters confirmed ages in the TMNT 2012 series.
The Turtles - 15
April - 16
Casey - 17
Splinter - 50
Shredder - 48
Karai - 16
Tiger Claw - 38
Rahzar - 33
Fishface - 28
Bebop - 24
Rocksteady - 45
Mondo Gecko - 14
Shinigami - 17
Renet - 16
Alopex - 31
Timothy - 16
Also for fun and a bonus, here’s my headcanons for 2012 characters who’s ages have not been confirmed. Enjoy!
Slash - 25
Leatherhead - 27
Mona Lisa - 17
Usagi - 32
Kintaro - 10
Fugitoid - 100+
Tang Shen - 32 (age when she died)
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What are your opinions on Xever Montes’ Mutation to Fish face. I saw some people complaining about him being nerfed. Or complaining about him being a fish, excetra. One of the comments I came across said that they wish he had become something more agile, to fit his fighting style. And I thought occurred to me that it was technically an opportunity to bring in a 2012 version of Overdrive. but they probably didn’t do it because of TigerClaw.
I personally don’t really care about that. And my Tiger Claw is a Good guy. So I decided to utilize the idea of Xever becoming a Rise/Prodigy version of Overdrive
OOOHHH!! I love this idea! And your design looks so cool! Xever the Jaguar Man!! I gotta remember this one!
Oh, I’ve never heard of that criticism before. I actually didn’t think it to be much of a nerf, since, while yes he has to rely on robot legs to walk around and oxygenated water to keep him breathing, he makes a few references to being strong than before.
I think too with his venomous bite, he’s probably at least equal to his previous form. I do kind of wish he would at least try to use his bite more often, though I do understand the writer’s apprehensions to doing that as Raphael already got bit, so having more characters get bit might seem repetitive and loose it’s gravity. However, Xever perhaps at least trying would seem a little more believable, even if he doesn’t succeed again, but idk, just a personal opinion.
I do agree it would be very cool if Xever was a jaguar. Not exactly sure where he’d come into contact with one of those, but it would be cool to see. I do also agree that having a jaguar and a tiger villain on screen could become confusing.
There’s some what of a rule to designing characters that your characters should be iconic enough that you can tell who it is and tell them apart from the others purely by silhouettes. The turtles scrape this line very close, but with them being different heights and sizes and having different weapons, you can usually see the difference.
Perhaps if they made Xever something more like a cheetah or just a very thin jaguar, they could’ve gotten away with it, as Xever is very thin, and Tiger Claw is very broad, you’d still be able to recognize them as separate characters.
Again though, I don’t know, just some thoughts. I definitely like Xever more as a big cat, though I think I still like his fish design as well. I don’t know who Overdrive is(I’m guessing probably a IDW original?) kinda sounds like a transformer, lol 😂
Good question! :]
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Legitimately the hardest shit tmnt 2012 ever pulled was introducing Bradford and Xever, developing them as legitimate antagonists with personal vendettas against the turtles, and then, halfway through the season, just fucking up their lives entirely forever.
Like, we had seen people get mutated before, and it was horrific, but it was always a character we'd met in the same episode (as far as I remember). These were guys we knew as their human designs, interesting characters with established fighting styles and looks that they tossed straight into the garbage to turn them into big monsters and, tbh, it kinda slapped.
THIS MAN USED TO BE A FAMOUS MARTIAL ARTIST AND ACTOR
This man can no longer live independently on dry land because SHREDDER OWNS HIS LUNGS AND LEGS
And, as much as I like it when 2012 brings back old villains and characters, I think it was really important that these guys were new, since it means you really don't see it coming. Like, they do the exact same thing with Bebop and Rocksteady later, and the whole time you're just waiting for them to mutate. But these two? Dogpund and Fishface? Original mutant, do not steal, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars, + you have to live like this now. They really rub that in, too, because Xever can't even function right away afterwards, they just let him swim around in the intimidation water in Shredder's fucking throne room for a few episodes. Absolutely incredible, can't believe Nickelodeon let them get away with half the shit they did, no notes
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I decided to Google who Xever Montes voice actor was because I wanted to know if he looked anything like him... um...
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I think we as a society need to give TMNT 2012 another chance, for one reason and if one reason only;
It's the one series where the humans were actually more attractive than the mutants.
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Bradford: We here at the Foot Clan do NOT condone child violence.
Xever: We do, however, find it hilarious.
[Bradford and Xever proceed to beat up the Turtles]
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