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poorly-drawn-mdzs · 9 months
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layzeal · 4 months
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so i was thinking back to some discussions on the watchtowers jgy built and whole "was there some insidious motivation?" "was it money laundering?" etc etc but imho these questions are not only unfounded but also neglect one point it was actually brought up in the book about them: "why weren't there any watchtowers near yi city?"
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veliseraptor · 1 year
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just thinking about the "xue yang never cared about xiao xingchen he doesn't have real feelings and just thinks of him as a toy" take again and @ameliarating pointed something out to me namely:
Xue Yang broke into peals of laughter. "Wei-qianbei, you're merciless!"
"Fine, laugh. Even if you laugh yourself to death, Xiao Xingchen's soul will still be too broken to put back together. He found you repulsive, yet you still insist on dragging him back so that you can play games with him."
Abruptly, Xue Yang swung from laughter into rage. "Who wants to play games?!"
"Then why did you kneel in front of me and beg me to fix his soul for you?"
Of course, someone as clever as Xue Yang must have been aware that Wei Wuxian was trying to bait him. First, distracting him with anger, and second, provoking him into shouting, Wei Wuxian made it possible for Lan Wangji to deduce his location and strike. But still, Xue Yang couldn't help replying. "Why? Hah! As if you don't know. I want to turn him into a fierce corpse - under my control! Didn't he want to be a pure, virtuous cultivator? Then I'll make him endlessly slaughter people, so he'll never find peace!"
"Ah? You hate him that much? Then why did you kill Chang Ping?"
Xue Yang sneered. "Why did I kill Chang Ping? Do you need to ask, Yiling Patriarch? Didn't I already tell you? I said I was going to kill the entire Yueyang Chang Clan - I wasn't even going to spare one dog!"
[...] Wei Wuxian said, "You sure came up with a good explanation. Too bad the timing doesn't match up. Someone like you, who can't even let a dirty look go without avenging yourself a thousand times over, someone who strikes so swiftly and ruthlessly - if someone like you really wanted to kill off an entire family, why would they wait so many years to finish? You know perfectly well why you killed Chang Ping."
"Then tell me, what do I know? What do I know perfectly well?!"
He shouted this last sentence.
"You killed them, yes. But why lingchi? Killing someone that way signifies that it was punishment. If you were only getting revenge for yourself, why did you use Shuanghua and not your own Jiangzai? Why did you have to dig out Chang Ping's eyes and make him like Xiao Xingchen?"
Xue Yang shouted himself hoarse. "Bullshit! It's all bullshit! It was revenge - was I supposed to let him die comfortably?"
"Indeed, it was revenge. But whose revenge were you seeking? How ridiculous. If you genuinely wanted revenge, you should have sliced yourself into pieces!" (MDZS, Chapter 42)
so if we're meant to buy that interpretation, then...what is the point of this passage? what is it trying to say? is it just to give Wei Wuxian a means of distracting Xue Yang and making him show himself? then why this means? and why are we taking the line that Xue Yang himself, a famously reliable narrator (?) gives (re: wanting to turn Xiao Xingchen into a fierce corpse and control him) as the truth of the situation, as opposed to Wei Wuxian's own interpretation (where Xue Yang is taking revenge on Xiao Xingchen's behalf, albeit expressed onto a different target)? and what is the point of Xue Yang's reaction after this, where he suddenly goes silent and stops responding, meant to indicate? the fact that Xue Yang gets angrier and angrier at Wei Wuxian for pressing the point?
these are all cues present for a narrative purpose, not "just because," and they're pointing in a direction that indicates that Xue Yang in this scene is lying through his teeth, whether or not he admits that to himself.
furthermore, since inevitably "but adaptation" comes up in these conversations, CQL actually retains this scene in a remarkably intact form:
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coming to the conclusion based on this scene alone (not even touching the narrative surrounding the events in the past) that people who claim that "xue yang had no genuine feelings about xiao xingchen whatsoever" is to be taken as truth are not just taking the most boring possible read of this text but also at least a little actively reading against it.
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deadsince1973 · 1 year
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thatswhatsushesaid · 3 months
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Was Nie Mingjue qi deviating when he insulted JGY's mom, pushed him down the stairs, and tried to cut off his head? Bc those do not seem like the actions of a reasonable and just man in his right mind, but I've seen some people defending that bit recently and I wanted to check (I don't own the book, otherwise I would have looked myself lol)
- yunmeng-jiang
i'm really glad i haven't seen the posts defending nmj's conduct on the staircase lol. man. okay:
nmj is not qi deviating during that scene in the novel, no. jgy doesn't begin playing turmoil for nie mingjue until after the confrontation on the staircase (and i am not interested in relitigating this discourse again, anyone else who may see this and feel inclined to argue with me). so while i definitely feel that nmj's continued cultivation with baxia has influenced and more deeply entrenched his hatred and distrust of jgy, he is not qi deviating in that moment. his qi deviation happens at the martial conference about two to three months later, if i recall the timeline as laid out in the empathy flashback + wangxian's conversation with lan xichen.
which makes it worse in some respects, doesn't it. 😕
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vroomian · 4 months
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Lol to the jgy post - jgy and xy despite being terrible people are my favourite characters bc of how interesting they are! I'm a shameless apologist of them and my favourite genre of mdzs fic is them being terrible somehow causing a fix-it. On the other hand, jgs and wrh can go die in a dumpster for all I care. (Also, for some reason, wwx/lwj are tbh not my favourite ship? I like them better with a third involved e.g. nmj or jc or mxy lmao)
*waves franticly* same hat! i too love when characters are horrible gremlins without apology. i think that jgy has been working retail his whole life and he gets to murder people as a treat. xy is just having a good time and that's very valid of him.
i want them to do what they want forever <3
(my favourite genre of mdzs fic is them being terrible somehow causing a fix-it :D ;D)
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twistedappletree · 26 days
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Could I ask more about Jin Zihao? I love his look! I rarely see next-gen junior OCs in the fandom.
We need so many more next gen juniors honestlyyyy, like there’s so much about the juniors grown up and leading sects but where are their kiddos?!?!
Disclaimer that these details are subject to change as I write more, since Jin Zihao wasn’t created until I started ‘Letters Never Sent.’ All of this info is related to the storyline of my fic:
• Jin Ling found Jin Zihao on the streets of Lanling shortly after Jin Ling became a sect leader—around the same time that Lan Sizhui left to travel and cultivate with Wen Ning. Jin Zihao was 10-years-old at the time, with seemingly no knowledge of his name or family and Jin Ling decided to take him in as a disciple.
• Spending so much time with Jin Ling, Jin Zihao shows a proficiency for archery and hunts with Jin Ling every morning—though it’s created a bit of a rift amongst his peers, since they feel as though Jin Ling favors Jin Zihao (and honestly, he does). Because of this, Jin Zihao has experienced some bullying and ostracism from the other Jin juniors, some of whom think he doesn’t belong in the clan because he’s not a Jin by blood (not that they can prove it because JGS couldn’t keep it in his pants for 2 seconds lmaoo)
• Jin Zihao idolizes Lan Sizhui, even without having met him, because Jin Ling simply doesn’t shut up about him. In my fic, Jin Ling is angry at Lan Sizhui for leaving so abruptly and disappearing for 3 years with no contact—but his admiration for Lan Sizhui never diminishes and it shines through Jin Zihao, who’s entirely starstruck when he finally meets Lan Sizhui.
• Jin Zihao loves Lan Jingyi, and vice versa. Lan Jingyi was there from day one since him and Jin Ling became best friends, making Lan Jingyi an older brother/uncle-figure in Jin Zihao’s life. He also likes Lan Jingyi because he’s the “cool” brother who lets him get away with anything that Jin Ling might scold him for 💀
• Jin Zihao is an incredibly good kid, however. Doesn’t get into trouble, very respectful, a fast learner and endlessly compassionate. His curiosity sometimes gets him into difficult situations, which he definitely learned from Jin Ling, but he’s got Jin Ling, Lan Sizhui, and Lan Jingyi (and even Ouyang Zizhen) looking out for him always so he’ll always be okay.
• Jin Zihao has a tattered, wonky little cat plushie that he was clutching when Jin Ling found him—and even at 13-years-old, he always sleeps with it. Sometimes, he even takes it with him on night hunts as a good luck charm and claims it’s the only thing he has left from his parents since he remembers them giving it to him, which is the extent of his memories from childhood.
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oneeyedoctogod · 6 months
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Me ten years ago, trying desperately to rationalise my love for villains: no, you don't understand [Insert Villain Character] is actually deeply misunderstood, and also they have such a sad past and anyway the other characters aren't that much better, it's just that the narrative itself is against [Villain]!
Me now: anyway, yes [Insert Villain Character] is evil, and they're being very hot about it. Still belongs in the trash, though. Hold up, not the trashcan they're liable to set it on fire, put them with the hazardous materials instead.
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mythvoiced · 2 months
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@s4ray | ♥
Xiao Xingchen is no foe of compliments. He advocates for praise to be a much better motivator, for words and reprimands to be a better teacher than mindless punishment - though he has been wrong before.
A person taken with gentleness, taught that improving, growing can and should only be associated with warmth, pleasure, a sense of pride, confidence, self-fulfillment, Xiao Xingchen will never understand an alternative when the benefit of the doubt has saved a lot more from the wrong path than cutting their hands off has - though he has been wrong before.
He's no stranger to compliments, as such. The praise of Baoshan Sanren had motivated him to keep training, after all, taught him justice, made of him a Daoist on a path even the darkness surrounding every aspect of his life in one way or another, can't make him stray from.
But... there are compliments, and then there are compliments.
Xiao Xingchen isn't a maiden. His appearance, his soft laughter, his even softer footfall, his penchant for kindness, it's easy to create an impression of a different man than the on he is... alas, his companion's words don't make him blush and hush.
But they do make him perk up.
There are only so many times he can be called all sorts of variations of 'beautiful' before Xiao Xingchen tilts his head, the pleased, gently amused smile maintaining its position on the canvas his companion had so meticulously and yet so easily worked to paint.
Smiling and laughing used to not come so easily. Now it seems easier than warming up to the thought of this potentially ending one day.
"Ah," an apologetic, but not meek tone wrapped around a single sound. "You know I'm no good with stories," he would, right? What odd kind of warmth, the warmth of knowing someone knows you. "At least not as good as you are at telling them."
The slightly off-kilter footfall, an injury to a leg not quite healed. Xiao Xingchen has memorized the way his companion walks, once upon a time because it was easier to precede him rather than burden someone with arranging themselves in a way that wouldn't startle him - because he liked his independence - and now... now it's a habit.
Now it's something to look forward to.
"Nor am I as good with words in general, as you are," his head moves at the slightest change, the slightest curve is accompanied by Xiao Xingchen's head adjusting to best capture it, a moon-pale beauty listening intently for the footsteps of a man he'll never truly know.
Though he has been wrong before.
"Nor particularly equipped to praise your looks as you seem keen on praising mine," and the corners of his lips sharpen ever so slightly.
His demeanour and the way he moves, some associating more years to his name than there are and assuming him an immortal deity has not been as rare an occurrence as he'd like it to be.
At the end of the day, though, he's not even quite 30 yet. At the end of the day, even he can tease.
"I'm sorry about the rabbit," he could hear how far away it was, "let me help carry those you've already caught. I insist."
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Is this an unpopular opinion ? Who knows.
I didn't really like how Yi city was adapted in the untamed.
Disclaimer: I read the book first and I had expectations for the untamed version which probably didn't help.
I'm not sure how much of what I'm going to talk about is censorship. I know they were clearly avoiding ghostly things (which is....something when the main character of a show is supposed to control and use ghosts' energy as his main power).
I feel like A-Qing got screwed over the most in this arc: we don't get the fact that she has been saving people and making Yi city so creepy for all those years to protect the living. We don't get the fact that she is an amazing actress who actually managed to get Xiao Xingcheng alone by acting/bluffing to get Xue Yang out of the house (and we don't get the implications that he is softening to her with his advice on how to deal with bullies which again leave it more ambiguous as to why he just let her do anything at all in Yi city after her death).
Also she just dies ? No spirit pouch for her I guess, which means no Xue Yang trying to get both pouches back during the battle and no potential second chance for her with Xiao Xingcheng and Song Lan.
I felt like A Qing as the pov character of the arc was incredibly important (also incredibly fun, I love her so much) and The Untamed which usually does really well with other female characters really dropped the ball on that one.
Also with that loss, the psychological horror of it all and the building of the tension is very much lost too. It is such a creepy and scary arc in the books.
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parlerenfleurs · 8 months
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Your Xue Yang adopted by Jiangs what-if post was being mocked on a different blog with your name cropped out,so I looked up for the original poster. How pathetic and insecure can these people be? If arguing is not ok,in what universe is it ok to take a screenshot of someone you blocked,and then invite your friends to make fun of? And they even get so offended when others use the Xue Yang tag if it's not to praise him...Bunch of clowns. Anyway,you have a point. The difference in Wei Wuxian and Xue Yang is not just their circumstances. I never considered how a Xue Yang adopted into various clans would turn out. The Jiangs would not produce better results than in canon,probably. Unless Yu Ziyuan saw a kindred feral cat spirit in him? Maybe then,hilariously,he would be less unhinged? Anyway your idea is fun to engage with,and use whatever tag you want,fuck the tag police.
*Chin hands* I'm fascinated by the kind of arguments these people think they have against what I said, which is factually what the text says. I'm also extremely glad to not know, and to get blocked and have my name cropped out - that's good form in a fandom if you must vent about something someone said without implicating the op.
Whoever did this did well and I have no complaint.
I, too, don't want to have fruitless arguments with people who don't appreciate Xue Yang just as he is (irredeemable, a villain, is having his own wretched kind of fun), or enough critical mind to understand the text that says that's what he is, and not a Wei WuXian parallel in any way (unless to show that similar circumstances put two different people and their very different reactions in huge contrast).
Personally I don't have strong feelings about Xue Yang one way or the other. I am, though, extremely fond of Wei WuXian and thus I don't like it when he's misunderstood.
Amyway, take a page off of their book and block them, anon. Life is too short to try and make Untamed/Seven seas' fans (I'm assuming that's what they are) understand what they missed out on if they have no desire to.
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lakeside-paradise · 10 months
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xue yang with his fluffy ponytail is ALWAYS the way to go. trust me
Oh, anon, are you talking about this Xue Yang right here?
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BECAUSE I AGREE!!! This ponytail is perfect on him! He looks adorable!
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smiling-shoe · 1 year
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- She's at that very special age when a girl has only one thing in her mind.
- Boys?
- Xuexiao kisses.
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veliseraptor · 5 months
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Do you have any Autism spectrum Song Lan headcanons? Any Asexual spectrum Xue Yang headcanons???
if I had to assign a specific diagnosis to my Song Lan headcanons (which I typically don't like doing with characters, I tend to prefer writing them as having "tendencies" that may or may not align with specific diagnoses) I'd say that I lean more toward ocd tendencies, though of course there's a lot of overlap there; mostly because that's what I know better from personal experience, and I like to spread my mental unwellness qualities across characters. I wouldn't say that I have specific headcanons about Song Lan as autistic, but I do think that some of my Song Lan headcanons overlap with autistic traits, potentially?
I don't know, I feel like I'm not really qualified to discuss, in the same way I tend to avoid discussing my Xue Yang headcanons as specifically personality disorder headcanons though I know I tend to write him flavored somewhat in that direction.
as far as ace headcanons, speaking of Song Lan I'm more likely to headcanon him as somewhere on the ace spectrum than I am Xue Yang. Xue Yang I don't personally headcanon as ace.
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cenedrariva · 2 years
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So this idea has been haunting me enough I've genuinely thought about writing it (although I don't think I will) so I decided to consult with you, the authority, feel free to ignore my raving ramblings though
In an hypothetical AU of your AU, in which after the events of Red Azalea Xue Yang, Xingchen and Song Lan one day wake up in the past in their respective child bodies, I'm thinking maybe a couple days after Xue Yang's hand is crushed.
What Would Each Of Them Do?
I love your story by the way, enough to have fic ideas about it. Take care.
first of all, that's very sweet to say!! I'd love to hear more about your fic ideas of my fic, i'm happy you enjoy it that much!!
now for this AU, i think it would change slightly depending on if all of them remember what their future was like together, but lets assume all three of them remember everything.
starting with XY, in the days after his hand was crushed, he'd quickly fall into some kind of fever and would have very little idea about what's going on, it's quite likely he'd assume his memories from the future are a strange dream he's having. at the same time, he's in a very vulnerable state right now and would want to retreat somewhere safe, and after a decade of XXC and SL being his safe space, i think he'd be driven even through a fever to seek them out. in moments of clarity he'd realise SL would still be at Baixue Temple and XXC is unreachable on BSSR's mountain, so he'd try to head towards Baixue, and probably end up collapsed on the road between towns out of exhaustion
As far as XXC and SL go, they'd both be thrilled to be back with their loved ones, and would get very emotional about it. SL would be unusually touchy feely with all of his loved ones who he lost, and his seniors would assume he had a bad nightmare.
But both XXC and SL are very aware that XY is in a vulnerable state currently living on the streets, and they would do their best to get to him and rescue him and give him a home. They wouldn't know the exact day XY hurt his hand but they'd know it was soon since they know the season he was harmed during, and they'd be desperate to reach him before that happened.
XXC would have limited success trying to convince BSSR to leave her mountain suddenly, and he would get more and more distressed as she says no. I think at some point he'd pretend he got a vision of the future and that they need to go down because he saw them saving a child, but although BSSR is curious about that and can see he's distressed, XXC is only 9 and she would think these are the ramblings of a child. XXC would try to sneak off the mountain to save XY, and BSSR would go after him and bring him home since he's too young to travel alone. Eventually his distress and repeated attempts to escape the mountain would convince her to go searching for this XY boy just in case, but XXC would not be allowed to go with her for his own safety. XXC would sneak off the mountain the moment she's gone
SL would have more success. It wouldn't be unusual for a disciple of his age (10 years old) to go travelling with an experienced senior, just to help him get a feel of the world, and he's even advanced enough as a student he might be taken on the most basic hunts. What is unusual is his insistence that they visit one particular town, especially because SL won't say why they should go, just that they have to. His seniors are bemused, but see no reason not to visit the town on the way home from the hunt.
once they arrive, SL would search the streets for any signs of kid XY but his heart would sink when he can't find him and he would worry he is too late. Eventually SL would grow frantic enough to sneak away from his seniors to seach properly, and i think eventually he would find poor exhausted feverish XY by the side of the road. SL would be punished for his recklessness but he would accept it gracefully as long as his seniors will help XY
now, in this AU, are all three of them waking up on the same day just after XY's hand is crushed, or are they travellng back to the same age, like all of them waking up as 7 year olds? Since XXC and SL are both a little older than XY, they'd be there before his hand was crushed. They would each be trying their best to convince their guardians to find XY and adopt him before XY ever met CC, and with the extra years, they may actually be successful. From then on, things would be very different
also, i feel like all three of them would assume they're the only ones with memories of their future, which adds another interesting dynamic.
anyway, those are my thoughts! feel free to disregard any of them if they don't fit with your fic ideas though, this is just how i would write that AU
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thatswhatsushesaid · 5 months
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Hi! Coming into your inbox to once again tell you how much I enjoy your blog and how much it changed my perspective on the nuance of apparent villains in CQL and MDZS. Just a bit of an energy reset after the garbage you’ve been getting in your messages. I appreciate all of the thoughtful commentary and canon analysis you do! So much labor, and I appreciate you. Best to you always!
🥹 this is truly so kind of you!! i haven't actually been receiving any shit in my inbox since october, thankfully (knock on wood lmfao) but i am always so glad to know that my meta has helped people change their minds about the cql/mdzs antagonists. mxtx really is so gifted at creating antagonists of circumstance who could make compelling protagonists if the perspective of the novel were switched around, which is why it always galls me to see them characterized as evil, or irredeemable, or otherwise just not worth the emotional investment that their fans have placed in them.
anyway yes this blog will always stan jin guangyao and su she and jiang cheng and (pre-timeskip, anyway) nie huaisang, we love the lads 🙌
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