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it’s nearly 3:30 AM and I have an appointment tomorrow but instead of sleeping I’m busy feeling annoyed about Jason and I feel like I gotta get this out of my system before going to bed so. I feel like Jason would be an infinitely more interesting character if, instead of challenging Batman on his no kill rule, he challenged Bruce on the existence of the Batman to begin with.
What I mean is this: it’s not a particularly novel concept to challenge Batman on the no kill rule. Like, at all. Everyone and their mom has done it, with varying levels of complexity and success. Jason’s moral system isn’t fresh or unique by any stretch of the imagination. The only thing that sets Jason apart from all the other villains/anti-heroes who have challenged Batman on the no kill rule over the years is that Jason is Bruce’s adopted son, and that Jason has actually come back from the dead, so he offers a unique perspective as the victim telling Batman his methods aren’t good enough. Which isn’t terrible, I suppose, but I still have... issues with it. 
I’m not a Jason buff by any means, and I haven’t re-read a lot of the comics related to him in a few years, so take my analysis on him with a grain of salt obviously, but it’s always bothered me that Jason is so willing to kill not just top criminals and supervillains, but also the average mook, if they get in his way. Jason’s poor background is often pointed to as a reason for why he has the moral system he does, and it’s always fallen flat for me, since Jason should know better than to kill the average mook precisely because he was poor. Likewise, he should know better than to think killing criminals, even the ones that deserve it, will actually solve anything in the long run.
The cause of the majority of crime is socio-economic inequality. People often turn to crime because they are poor and have very little other options. The illegal drug trade also exists due to socio-economic inequality. Jason, having been poor himself, and having had a criminal as a father and an addict as a mother, should know this. So why does he think shooting drug lords and their mooks is going to solve anything? Even if he manages to control the whole drug trade and has killed everyone else, he might be able to make things a little saver, but it’s not a long-term solution by any means. It doesn’t address the root cause of why crime flourishes in Gotham.
The criticism most often labelled at Batman out-of-universe is ‘Bruce Wayne could do a lot more if he used his money to fix the socio-economic inequality than he ever could as Batman’, which is a criticism I find unfair for a variety of reasons (I think it makes more sense to criticize the trend of making rich people superheroes than to single out one particular superhero for falling into this trend), but nevertheless, it’s not wrong. Bruce Wayne has long been established as a philanthropist in comics, but it’s relatively rare for a comic to really delve into the ways he materially helps people as Bruce Wayne, not Batman. And of course, running a company like he does means that he will inevitably fuck over some group of people, which as also been shown in comics. Charity by millionaires is, in no way, going to fix socio-economic inequality in the long term, but Batman needs to maintain his fortune in order to be able to continue his operations as Batman efficiently.
I think Jason could’ve been a way more interesting character if that was the angle with which he challenged Bruce. A Jason who, after dying a violent death, comes back to see that absolutely nothing has changed; Batman is still there, Robin is still there, the Joker is still there, nobody stays in jail due to the inherent corruption in the system, and Gotham is as poor as ever. And he becomes disillusioned with superheroism, doubting that it could ever do any material good at all. So he goes the other way, and tries to fight crime by establishing grassroots initiatives and activist communities to fight socio-economic inequality.
 And when Bruce inevitably finds out he’s alive, Jason challenges him on the effectiveness of Batman, pointing out that despite his best efforts, he’s managed to make no headway at all in his war for crime; if anything, you could argue he’s made it worse, both in that Batman attracts weirdo supervillains like the Joker, and in that Wayne Enterprises as a gigantic corporation will, inevitably, fuck people over in some, way, shape, or form. 
Like idk could just be me but while it’d probably be less exciting in that it involves less punching, I think a Jason who challenges the very idea of superheroism as an effective tool to fight crime and challenges Bruce’s morality as a millionaire is infinitely more interesting than Jason as yet another villain who thinks Batman’s no kill rule is ineffective. 
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makeste · 4 years
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1) I’m like, 90% sure those quirk-be-gone bullets will be being held offsite at another location- they're too valuable and unique to be stored with everything else in the room, and much like the varied implications that Ujiko has a 'lot' of property around how that are hiding his various mad scientist labs and experiments like freaken Hojo and the lab underneath the sector 7 slums, it make sense for the crazy-prepared scientist to keep his various labs and projects separate unless in case of
2) emergency- he probably had backups of the quirks that were being stored there held in storage in offsite locations. I’m pretty certain the reason why shiggy and the nomu were being treated in the same location was because of convenience and the similarities between their various modifications- Ujiko needed to be close by to the hospital before he found Twice’s quirk and therefore had the freedom to spend as much time down there as he wanted, so it makes sense for the nomu main facility to be
3) underneath there, but I see that as the cutting-edge lab where he honed his nomu-making to an artistry, and once he repurposed it to fixing up Shiggy, the high-ends became useful backup bodyguards in a pinch. However, the quirk erasure bullets are more likely something completely separate form all his work thus far, and since he’s been busy making Shiggy 2.0 they’re probably stored somewhere else for analysis/reproduction for stage 2 of the plan. I’m betting something along the lines of,
4) mass-producing the bullets and distributing them to the undercover agents of the PLF in various cities, arming people and crooks with the means to permanently depower heroes with the pull of a trigger, as well as police, enabling the lower-rung mooks to be a serious threat whilst the higher ups get stuff moving for the next big event- it’d be a bit like those gauntlets the fizzy pop dude tried to use against Bakugou and Todoroki, only if it had hit it would have been the end of them as
5) heroes, and I’m betting a similar self-destruct mechanism will be built into the guns and bullets to prevent the heroes being able to reverse-engineer this particular weapon.
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the tidbit from chapter 259 about him setting up “multiple orphanages and nursing homes nationwide” is definitely noteworthy, and they almost certainly do have other facilities out there since this is already the third hideout we’ve seen counting the two in Kamino. it’s also worth noting that the PLF almost certainly had mass production facilities giving Detnerat’s operations! so all in all this is a pretty reasonable possibility.
however, there are a couple strikes against this theory which I can think of, as well as one alternative theory that I want to put forth as well. so here goes:
1. I feel like this is something Hawks would definitely have made a priority to learn about, if there was anything actually to learn. the fact that he doesn’t seem aware of any plans for a “phase two” of the villains’ grand scheme which involves the quirk bullets leads me to think it’s less likely.
2. from the League’s standpoint, I actually don’t think it makes that much tactical sense to mass produce the bullets. or at least, not with the intent of distributing them to the PLF. the thing is, I don’t think Tomura and his group ever necessarily trusted the PLF. consider all the trouble they had with the last group that they “allied” with. I think it’s more likely that they simply joined forces with them because hey, free army (and more importantly, free food lol).
but mass producing weapons which permanently remove quirks and giving them to a bunch of quirk supremacists would be a really dicey move, especially when said group so recently tried to murder you and your friends. I mean, would you trust them in Tomura’s position? I sure wouldn’t. I’m more inclined to think they joined up with them with the intent of eventually stabbing them in the back once all was said and done. at best, they were just a means to an end, and I can’t see Tomura ever entrusting them with tools which could just as easily be used against him as the heroes.
3. lastly, another thing to consider is that Ujiko may have seen an entirely different potential in those bullets than what Overhaul saw. this is what I’m really worried about, actually. because the bullets were made from Eri’s DNA, right? i.e. her blood and stuff, i.e. Overhaul is a vile p.o.s., but anyways, my point is -- how exactly does Ujiko extract quirks, anyway? in theory, couldn’t any source of DNA potentially be just as good as a corpse or a live subject? so what if, rather than seeing this item as a quirk-removing weapon, Ujiko saw its potential in the sense of extracting the quirk itself? and, idk, maybe giving it to his so-called masterpiece, the person he just fucking turned into an AFO-wielding “transcendent one” or whatever the fuck.
(orrrrrrrr, what if... he extracted it and put it somewhere for safekeeping to give to a certain someone who’s currently holed up in prison in his useless husk of a body. granted this last one is seeming more and more wildly unlikely because one AFO user is bad enough -- I can’t see any way that the heroes could possibly stop two of them. but I just wanted to throw it out there that it is technically a possibility! Rewind is precisely the quirk AFO has been seeking this whole time -- something which could restore him to his former glory. so if Ujiko realized all that? shiiiiit.)
anyway! so just some things to consider. granted, that third possibility would make the already overpowered-as-fuck Tomura even more overpowered-as-fuck (although that is the way he constantly seems to be trending though), and I’m not at all convinced it’s a good idea, writing-wise. but the fact remains that they had the bullets, and from the villains’ standpoint it would be the logical play IMO. so who even knows what’s gonna come of that, but whatever it is, it almost certainly won’t be good. but what else is new lol.
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athina39 · 6 years
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Dead Apple Movie Report/Summary
as promised, here’s my reaction thread/summary/speculations/theories about the Dead Apple Movie!!! sorry it’s a day late orz
everything under the cut because IT’S LONG. the CR subs comparison is c/o Fayto-san!!!! i watched the movie in SE Asia, so it’s a different company who handled the subtitles/distribution (it’s ODEX).
here goes! (also a warning/enticement: i’m shamelessly biased towards chuuya and soukoku)
Extra Notes:
- we probably got ourselves perma-banned so many places yesterday (the restaurant where we had lunch, the coffeeshop we went to pre-movie, the foodcourt where we had our post-movie drink, the entire mall itself....) because we were..... quite wild haha
- we took up a whole row in the cinema and there was another group that had their own row behind us! they're chuuya fans too, which is always awesome. the girl behind me is educating her new-to-the-fandom friend to ship soukoku "even if dazai is an asshole", which is Big Mood.
- certain someones (lol) cough "walking dead show" whenever soda is onscreen;;;;; if only They Knew that was the actual theme of the show (more on that below)
- our group was the loudest in the squealing/shrieking ahahaha. and aside from the obvious chuuya and soukoku scenes, we were the loudest at: (1) ALL THE GIRLS (each time yosano/agatha/tsujimura/kyouka's mom appeared, there's guaranteed squealing; Kyouka is Best Girl); (2) akutagawa's Dynamic Entry & akutagawa's curl-up lol; (3) that scene in the OP with the pm dazai & ada dazai; (4) the backstab scene; (5) dazai's handcuff escape & pill swallow. we were also fairly loud at some of atsushi's scenes, but it was more out of laughter??? like.... tiger son, you're kinda unintentionally funny/narmy this movie;;;;
- the people behind us each time there's an atsukyou scene: "BUT. SHE'S. 14." / "she's cuuuute" / "but. she's. 14."
- drinking game: drink for (1) each time atsushi yells kyouka's name - you won't make it out alive within the first 30 mins. slightly easier version: drink for (2) each time there's an orphanage flashback. fast-paced version: drink for (3) each time the "CLAWSSSS" was repeated
Movie Itself:
- chuuya's dynamic entry is so cool, pink motorbike included. like 30% of movie budget probably went to the animation of that scene. it's also asdfghk;da that chuuya tooling/destroying buildings is like, part of his theme in this movie. also, it makes me excited to see a pm days!soukoku driving a car to a mission - they both drive like hell lol
- dazai's "hi, chuuya~" haunts me until now, like. stop sounding so sassy and flirty, gdI but then again, dazai's teasing voice when he talks to chuuya the entire time is sassy and flirty so. asdfhgla
- dazai's “It would have been interesting if Chuuya got struck with lightning instead.” made us shriek because pre-movie, we were discussing that the French term for lightning strike, "le coup de foudre" is associated with love at first sight
- dazai complaining that because chuuya arrived 5 mins late, dazai had to get hit 3 times & chuuya just rolling with that = old married couple vibe much;;;;
- on a more serious note - it's very interesting to see this side of chuuya - in his previous appearances, he was the type to immediately blow his fuse whenever dazai says something to infuriate him, but this time, while he still bickers with dazai, there's a serious edge to it? chuuya's about to deal with the cause of death of his sheep fa(r)m, after all.
- (also - wtf was that dude holding a gun to dazai's head doing??? he just allowed dazai, his hostage, to fucking talk in the communicator the entire time???? bro, you ok??? are you sure you're a villain??? it would be funny tho if the 3 smacks that dazai was talking was 1 smack per sentence that he said on the communicator - because he did say 3 hahaha)
- chuuya activating For The Tainted Sorrow wordlessly (come to think of it, he has never said anything to activate For The Tainted Sorrow? like, everyone else says their ability name....) and on a whole building range = fucking lit. i wonder how's the range/control for his ability... because he managed to knock every single one of the mooks (incl the Lightning User) on that building rooftop in like, 3 seconds. and he managed to do it *without* crushing his bike, which is also on the roof, so he's able to do fine-tune who can be affected.
- chuuya so very tsun-tsun and dishonest when he wants to "help"!!! like aside from destroying buildings, being married w/dazai and being beautiful - one of chuuya's themes in the movie is that.... he does things that others tell him to, in two ways. one is if it's an order/job - which he'll only take from his superior/boss. another is if it's a debt he has to repay.
- soukoku then meets shibusawa; dazai says that all the gems that shibu's throwing away are wasted and it would have made for a good gift to women. chuuya asks for shibu to return the sheep fa(r)m, but shibu says that the sheep won't return because they committed the (apple) suicide. (so the sheep are Ability users? at least these six?)
- in the crunchyroll ver, shibu calls chuuya (&dazai?) "boring guests", while in odex ver, he calls them "bored guests"
- upon hearing confirmation that sheep fa(r)m is deader than dead, chuuya activates corruption wordlessly and tells dazai to not stop him. dazai actually acquiesces to that order w/o mouthing off, so it's good to see that he actually acknowledges how important it is for chuuya to avenge the sheep fa(r)m, despite the events in 15...
- building with soukoku&shibu explodes....... and camera pans to dramatically billowing in the wind coat of fyodor as he watches the proceedings, and calls it great entertainment. (so fyodor has already seen corruption at work? hmmmmm)
- re: the ADA briefing re: shibusawa....... like. ranpo-san. if you already knew how everything will happen/end......can you like.......inform the rest of ADA too......
- the fog events where a fog appears then disappears after a *few minutes* leaving behind a corpse of an Ability user started 3 years ago. the info that they have on shibu is that he's 29, he's an ability user, he goes by "collector", and he's the person responsible for the fog events
- also laughing at how... the meeting kunikida & tanizaki went to, to meet with the Special Ops agent... so shady hahaha. though apparently, this is the first time that the "calling card" of a stabbed, juicy apple is left behind.
- tanizaki: "why an apple?" / kunikida: "how should i know?" asd;sfha;ds why is that your main concern tanizaki, there's a dead person there in front of you hahahaha
- (flashback to bar lupin - dazai asking soda if he knows about apple suicides & soda replying that it's cinderella..... and dazai saying that soda is really interesting because of that.....dazai, your definition of interesting.... is if people don't know cultural/literary references? and soda's an aspiring author at this point??? do you sure??? and dazai giving such motives to snow white ahahaha, the definition of overthinking....;;;)
- dazai gets ambushed by ango in front of bar lupin after dazai took the pill (that would supposedly eventually act as an antidote) (like.....how the fuck did dazai end up hiding that pill in his mouth for that long and he kept on talking a lot and it didn't slip or melt wHAT) & ango says that dazai's the one who brought shibu back to yokohama;;; dazai doesn't get captured by ango's team, bec that's when the fog appears
- (atsushi sleeps inside kyouka's closet???? like............why. i thought he had his own dorm room before??? and kyouka's apparently living (in the dorm???) that's quite far away from the agency itself, bec they had to walk a long way to reach the agency?? i was initially thinking it was like, just behind the office or just the next street over hahaha
- ADA budget apparently is spent on high-tech communicators (just use special satellite phones asdj;asd) and fancy gun storage. i'm a bit disappointed that there wasn't a flamethrower. also, the gun that kuni gave atsushi??? had so many fucking bullets.
- ango and his team is able to monitor the fog in yokohama so they're.... not in yokohama? do they have like an airship or something? the fog is apparently able to remove any non-ability users in the vicinity & separate the ability user from his gift. ango reveals that the HQ of the enemies is an abandoned tower called Mukurotoride in the middle of yokohama and i'm just.... did nobody ever think that an abandoned tower in the middle of a busy city isn't damn suspicious???? it's apparently been there for a long time ffs
- (atsushi has this one-track mind that because dazai saved him, then dazai must be good at all costs, which is. i'd love to say it's because he trusts dazai, but it's more like those fanatic belief, really. it would be great if the manga can explore this deeper - because atsushi's hypocrisy is a really interesting facet of his character. atsushi who doesn't even want to point his gun towards the enemy abilities in the beginning and who say that 'even if he's a villain, we don't know the type of person he is...' 'no matter how bad they are, there's no need to kill them', but when akutagawa says that bec dazai is an enemy now, he'll kill him, atsushi reflexively points a gun at aku...)
- ango's subordinates track chuuya (A5158) down and sends him a message to "pay his debt to professor glasses"
- bitch trio scene! shibusawa's theme of boredom bec he's apparently that much of a genius whose intellect can't be surpassed. dazai says that he's just like shibu before, bored beyond belief. when shibu asks dazai how he's surpassed it, dazai claims that he's going to show shibu and that shibu doesn't know what's dazai's true intentions. shibu shoots it down by saying that it's only dazai who thinks he's fushigi mystery. dazai says that shibu needs salvation.... by either an angel or a demon.
- and because call a demon and he'll appear, fyodor appears. who tells the two that they're the only ones who think they're being mysterious because they're pretty easy to read. (shibu then calls fyodor "Majin Fyodor-kun" ahhh). dazai claims that fyodor's the one most likely to betray shibu, which fyodor agrees with. shibu just says that there hasn't been anyone who surpassed his expectations, so he's looking forward to it.
- during the entire bitch trio scene, there's a focus on apples and a certain skull.
- aku telling kyouka that she now has the opportunity to kill him in an ability-less world asdfgh;lasd
- the PM apparently has made an emergency passage specially made to counteract ability user-attacks and can't be penetrated by the fog?? i wonder how they made it?? a nullifying ability from dazai??? hmm
- aku says that the fog is a "dragon's breath" & aku schooling atsushi on information gathering is asdfjg;asd (i wonder who gave the info to aku though....? probs mori haha)
- at this point, i'm gonna jump the explanations and go with - during this entire movie, shibusawa is already dead. he's a walking dead. except for That One Flashback, shibu is dead.
- shibu then welcomes the bitch trio to his collection room, Draconia. which is filled with crystallized abilities. the room has abilities that are bright red and dull red - apparently, all the ability users that is engulfed with the mist will have crystals in the room - once the ability user has been defeated by their ability, the ability will be crystallized and will become a bright red gem inside the collection room. the collected ability can then be taken and used by anyone who's holding the red gem.
- fyodor says that the collection is enough to make a devil jealous, while shibu says that fyodor sold him information about most of the ability users in his collection, which is how he was able to collect them. (remember in the Fyodor v A chapter - fyodor got himself captured so he can steal the notes/docs about Port Mafia members. *more on this below)
- Shibusawa: But how did you gather all that information? Fyodor: Every city is filled with rats. Dazai: Meow.
- that meow also haunts me hahahaha
- shibu then basically says that he's actually just looking for That One Special Ability to make the collection worthy
- akuatsukyou arrive at the end of the passage? but it's foggy, so either the fog is stronger, they're outside of the passage, or aku's lying about the passage being impenetrable by the fog asd;fasd
- Shibusawa: To me, people are nothing but machines of flesh, behaving in identifiable ways. But there is just one person I fail to comprehend. Myself. Dazai: Don't you have any friends? Shibusawa: I don't need friends. I understand everyone's mind, after all. I will surely go to the world beyond, between my lines, past the blank spaces. Dazai: You wouldn't be saying that if you actually had friends.
- this exchange is just so asdfgj'asds like pls you two
- akutagawa summarizes rashomon's ability as.... "to change a cloth to a blade and send it flying towards the enemy". i'm so proud of how aku's able to utilize that ability and create so many things (so demon armor is literally like a suit of blades??? damn son);;; (also, this brings to mind the saying "silk hiding steel" hahaha)
- aku defeating rashomon by slapping it towards the vat of lava..... damn son again;;;; aku going "just as planned", then rashomon apparently survives and aku changes it to "just as i expect from my own ability" ahahahaha.... and aku telling rashomon that he should quiet down and that he belongs in there (in his coat).... ahh bless him
- atsushi shattering the crystal on Byakko by shoving the blade inside its mouth.... is apparently Foreshadowing for something later
- chuuya complaining that he's being expected to go to ango's facility by one phone call.... but chuuya.... you still went..... ;;;;;
Chuuya: You've got some nerve, expecting me to answer your phone call like I'm on your beck and call. Ango: May we have some time alone? This is a government facility. You don't expect to get away doing something like this, do you? (referring to chuuya probs destroying a dozen doors in the process of him reaching ango's office) Chuuya: I'll be the one to decide if I do or not. Not you. Ango: You have a debt to me. Chuuya: No, you have a debt with me. Ango: What are you talking about? Chuuya: Don't act dumb. Do you think I'm stupid? It's about what happened six years ago. Ango: What do you mean? Chuuya: It was the government who sent Shibusawa into the Dragon Head Conflict. It was supposed to end the conflict that had engulfed all of Yokohama. But he never had any intention of maintaining peace. All you did was create more corpses. You sheltered him anyway, because he's a gifted that can help in protecting the nation. That's why, not only did you turn a blind eye to all the corpses he'd produced overseas, you covered it all up. Ango: All for the peace in this nation. Chuuya (grabbing Ango): Watch your mouth, professor glasses. If you hadn't sent him out, all six of my friends would be alive right now. Ango: Will you kill me? I wouldn't mind. I've been prepared ever since I'd decided to ask for your assistance. Chuuya (throwing Ango aside): It's a deal, then. I'll accept your job. And you'll pay with your life.
- back at the creepy beautiful castle:
- fyodor and dazai utter the "keikaku doori" line, which means shit is about to go down - apparently fyozai had made a team-up to sneak into the collection room w/o shibu knowing - dazai reveals that he worked to "guide" shibu in yokohama because shibu is someone that can't be touched because he has the protection of the government... which means that he'll just continue filling up his collection room with ability users and japanese gov't will just turn a blind eye to it, and therefore shibu must be stopped by other means - fyodor says that even w/o dazai meddling with shibu, shibu would create a fog in yokohama. - fyodor takes out 2 abilities. 1st ability can summon all ability users in the area and teleport them to a single place. 2nd can turn the abilities of the gifted who touch it into crystals. (was A a foreshadowing for this all along? A's ability is to change the lifespan of his subordinates to jewels....what is with fyodor and ability users re: gems hahah) - fyodor holds up the 2 gems so that dazai can touch it and nullify it
- (a side note: at this point, here are the characters who've been shown to still retain their abilities: Dazai, Chuuya, Fyodor*more on this later; Dazai because his nullification still works; Chuuya, because he still had that glowy red when he dealt with ango and cracked an entire office wall in the process)
- the logic is that, if dazai touches the 2 gem abilities... the crystals will be broken and the abilities will return to their "former state"*** (v important) and the ability to summon all ability users in one place (aka The Fog) will be cancelled and therefore fog will disappear
- fyodor offers the 2nd gem first... dazai touches it.... but instead of the abilities returning to their owners, the abilities escaped from the crystal shells inside the collection room and fused into one
- before dazai can work on dispelling the fog by touching the 1st gem, shibusawa stabs dazai in the back with a fruit knife. shibu says that he expected this, bec nothing surpasses his expectations. dazai just blandly says "i see... so this is where the betrayal happens", bec fyodor had supposedly locked the door to the collection room when they entered it, but woopsie, apparently not, because fyodor values entertainment
- dazai asks shibu what's his next step, but shibu says that his target is dazai anyway, so there's "no next"
- dazai says that he didn't expect a fruit knife to hurt this bad, so there must be poison in it
- shibu tells dazai that he can now taste the death he's longed for dearly
- in CR subs: dazai says: "How could you? This feels great" while in ODEX subs, dazai says: "What have you done? This doesn't feel great at all", which i think makes more sense
- fyodor says that "with the owner dead, the ability leaves him", and dazai "dies" and "no longer human" crystallizes
- (a side note: so it's confirmed that if ability user dies, ability leaves him.... but what happens to it next? is it transferred to a next person? how about its effects? the people that yosano healed... will their effects be gone and therefore the people will regain their wounds??)
- shibu holds NLH in his palms. shibu's very excited to see NLH crystallized because it very blue (as opposed to the red-gem abilities), the blue changes to red, gemblocking him.
- (presumably, NLH activates?? but.... fyodor held the two gems before and they didn't really activate.... but maybe they didn't because they were already active??)
- Fyodor: The merging ability (the 1st gem, aka: The Fog, aka Shibusawa's Ability) and the disabling ability (NLH). With the two contrary abilities becoming one, a singularity is born. Even with Dazai's special ability, what you really desire-- your lost memories-- will never come back.
- fyodor then says that he'll help shibu recover his memories, and slits his throat
- (joint orphanage flashback time!! c/o atsu and shibu as shibu regains his memories! shibu experiments on young atsushi by electrocuting him. shibu says that the president was mistaken about atsushi's ability, implying that atsushi's real ability isn't Beast Underneath the Moonlight. it's apparently a Very Special Ability, but atsushi's not able to use it properly because of his youth/inexperience. shibu says that even he isn't able to pull the ability out and collect it with his fog.
- in CR subs, shibu says that: "It's the only special ability that won the envy of all other gifted." // in ODEX subs, shibu says that: "It's a special ability that can grant the wishes of other ability users"
(a side note - if his real ability is an ability that can grant his wish, it's possible that atsushi probably read a picture book somewhere or got influenced into thinking that Tigers are Bad. his ability goes haywire, bec it was too strong and he was too young to control it, so atsushi's ability has formed into a tiger because atsushi needed something to blame. something beastly. something monstrous. he can't accept that he himself is the one who's hurting others, so he has formed his ability to turn to a tiger. the regeneration, the shounen power ups... they're not very "tiger-like" or it'd make for a very OP tiger, so his ability could be to make his wishes to reality, like "i want to heal!", "i want to be strong!" and the tiger is just the form that atsushi can deal with/can understand. you can even say..... that byakko is his fursona;;;; *gets kicked*)
(more side note: irl!atsushi wrote a story Tiger Poet, which features a man changing to a tiger....that is a poet... so he might have read that story and got an idea re: the tiger. there's a quote there, "We are all the trainers of wild beasts and the beasts in question are our own inner-selves.", which could be atsushi getting the idea of personifying his ability as a tiger so he can "tame it", aka control his ability)
- anyway, young atsushi didn't enjoy the electrocutions, the tiger takes over and claws shibusawa's face off, killing him
- shibu then says that the reason why he targeted atsushi to begin with is because he heard from a Russian named Fyodor that atsushi's ability is special (see the same contrast betw the CR and ODEX subs noted above)
- present time, fyodor then confirms that shibu died at that point. But. upon death, shibusawa apparently inherited a new ability - the ability to split himself (his soul? spirit?) away from his corpse. his body (aka, the skull that's been there the entire time) is the one who remembers death while his mind doesn't remember it and has retreated into a room (the Collection Room) to deal with his Feelings. (so it means that the shibu soukoku faced off in the beginning is walking dead shibu as well, because apparently shibu has gone for the gem collection quest after his death)
- a side note: so Shibusawa's Real/Original Ability is The Fog (1st ability can summon all ability users in the area and teleport them to a single place....and presumably "pull" the ability away from them). after dying, he got the ability to separate his mind from his corpse (redefining mind over matter), presumably given to him by fyodor?. he then gets the ability to turn abilities into crystals, presumably given to him by fyodor too?, then because he's basically a ghost wandering around earth, he tries to find a reason for "existing" to fulfill the void, which leads him to gathering abilities (*more on this later)
- the abilities continue fusing to each other, creating a huge mass. dazai's "dead" body is sucked into that mass.
- fyodor comments that dazia is quite greedy, because even in death, he intends to watch the city fall into destruction. fyodor then says that as congratulation for their anniversary of being friends (LOL; also - they've known each other for a year already? or is fyodor gigglesnorting here and considering that very same day as the start of their friendship?), he'll tell the dead dazai the reason why he managed to keep his ability in the fog.
- a "2nd" fyodor appears, the personification of his ability. he looks exactly like him. they say the "I am crime. I am punishment. Did you know? Crime and punishment are close friends." line ahahaha
- fyodor merges with his ability
- the mass of abilities that sucked dazai in changes for to a dragon
- fyodor reveals that the dragon is the form of the chaos of special abilities. (remember that "original state of abilities" that fyodor said above? apparently, it's a dragon)
- the singularity anomaly readings are over 9000, more than the events 6 years ago (aka, the opening scene). ango checks on chuuya's location to see if he's on his way
Ango: Chuuya-kun... Dazai-kun is almost certainly eliminated by now.Do you understand what that means? (implying that if chuuya ends up using corruption, there's no dazai who'll nullify it, therefore he'll also die) Chuuya: I don't care. Ango: Are you sure? You haven't taken your reward... My life. Chuuya: Don't get cocky, asshole. You were a just lowly infiltrator six years ago. It's not like anyone would have listened to you if you had opposed their plan to use Shibusawa.  (Chuuya lowkey implying that he actually doesn't blame Ango all that much, despite all his talk earlier) Chuuya: This is nothing but that idiot's plans. That Dazai is still inside there. No doubt about it. I need to give him a smack, or I'll never get over it. I'm hanging up.
(can i just say.... chuuya.... even though he has no proof of it whatsoever, he believes that dazai's still alive and waiting for him. ango, who can see the readings of the ability users, knows that dazai's dead. but chuuya----he doesn't need that kind of logic. unconditional trust is here, folks. also, the theories about chuuya actually being able to read dazai's plans/motives??? hell yes)
- chuuya's in a plane approaching the castle (so confirmed that ango's office really is floating over yokohama??? or at least not near it?)
Tsujimura: We're approaching the target. Chuuya: You're that chick from way back. Tsujimura: I'm Tsujimura. Are you really going? Chuuya: Yeah. Tsujimura: It's no use. No human can defeat it. That thing is a monster beyond human comprehension. Get overconfident and fight it, and you'll die. (lowkey spoilers about chuuya being beyond human, thanks bones) Chuuya: That's not a reason to chicken out and go home. Do you know when it's all right to chicken out and go home? Tsujimura: I do not. Chuuya (jumping off the plane): There is no such time.
(chuuya's badass way of removing his gloves and jumping off and his hat and coat flying off???? the whole cinema SCREAMED)
- chuuya chants the "grantors of dark disgrace" line and corruption activates
- chuuya lands on a building, breaks it down to chunks and launches them at the dragon (with dazai inside hahaha)
- extended battle scene with chuuya just battling a dragon, which is the force of a fuckton of ability users' abilities combined, and nailing it. like. just. think about it. the dragon is formed by the force of all the abilities. and there's like, more than 128 of them (as per the initial briefing with ADA). chuuya actually defeated the force of that many ability users. fuck.
- chuuya jumps down to a huge-ass building, floats it and uses it to beat up a dragon. a building is being used as a baseball bat to hit a dragon. the sheer scale and ridiculousness of how powerful he is??? amazing.
- chuuya ends up ramming the building to the dragon's mouth. that's how the fight ends. he makes the dragon choke on AN ENTIRE BUILDING.
- chuuya then yells "DAZAIIIIIIIIIIII" as the dragon explodes (while he's still in corruption mode)
- chuuya reaches dazai, who's inside the dragon, and chuuya (still in corruption mode) punches dazai in the face
- the punch is apparently the key needed for dazai to bite down on the pill, releasing the antidote to the poison (if only romeo and juliet knew about this method...)
- dazai lives. chuuya coughs out blood from using corruption for too long.
- they float in the air and dazai. just. softly touches chuuya's cheek, disabling corruption.
Dazai: You believed in me and used Corruption? I'm so touched I could cry. Chuuya: Yeah, I did. I believed in your disgusting craftiness and refusal to die.* Dazai: That was a somewhat violent way of waking Snow White. Chuuya: You're the one who planned it by hiding an antidote in your mouth, knowing I'd punch you.
...JUST.
dazai's voice.
chuuya. admitting that he believes in dazai. in ODEX subs, it was "i believed in the fact that you wouldn't die", which is extra doki in that ----- even though they've said "i'll kill you" to each other so many times (even in the beginning of the movie) and even though chuuya knows about dazai's double suicide longings.... he still believes that dazai wouldn't die.
and just. dazai implying that he's snow white. and chuuya just rolling with it????? dazai implying that chuuya's the prince who woke up snow white. and chuuya just rolling with it????????
this is high-level flirting i CANNOT
and chuuya KNOWING that him being here is part of dazai's plans and him being here anyways knowing that (even though he had mentioned about dazai's plans always toying with him---)--------------- i CANNOT
Chuuya: Let go, asshole. Dazai: (*dazai presses down on chuuya's head to prevent him from moving*) Don't move. The fog hasn't cleared. I don't want to have to protect you from your special ability in this situation. Chuuya: It's still not over? Dazai: No, it's just beginning. Chuuya: Shit. I can't even move a single finger. (Chuuya collapses into Dazai's thigh, his face/chin landing on Dazai's upper right thigh/hip) Dazai: I predicted things this far. But the rest is on them.
and of course. the lap scene. the scene that killed everyone in the cinema. just. there's no words that can bring it justice. the fuwafuwa atmosphere. the shoujo music background during the floating then the lap scene. the sound of dazai's hand patting chuuya's head. the body placements. the camera angles. that pic in the magazine???? oh boy the actual scene, the extended scene is 10000000000x gayer.
just think.
dazai. who shoved atsushi off when he fell on him.
dazai. who had chuuya fall on his crotch and legs and just. let him stay there. like yes, the point is that dazai has to keep on touching chuuya so he can nullify chuuya's ability and therefore not have his powerful ability have a separate form that can fight them. but they didn't have to stay in that position, did they? i mean, chuuya can't move but dazai could have shoved him off, right? he could have touched him using anything else but keeping him between his legs and patting his head/hair right.
.............BUT WAIT.
dazai.
before he "died".
he.
already nullified the ability to form abilities to crystals. the only ability left is shibusawa's fog, which can trap ability users in one place and extract the ability from them (and just that. the abilities shouldn't be trying to hunt down their "owners" anymore, because no more moon crystal power. right???)
so.
dazai........didn't really have to keep touching chuuya then?
.......is that so. huh.
.....i see.
sasuga dazai.
(i mean even that conjecture is incorrect - as in the Fog can also make abilities fight their owners, aside from just extracting them..... did dazai really have to touch chuuya like that????? .....he really did, huh. i see. sasuga dazai)
.........also. the ability, even if given form, only attacks the owner. (except for that lol-worthy case of rashomon and the tiger having different ideas and attacking each other). so if dazai, as he says, really hates chuuya and wants him to die...... he can..... just let the ability kill chuuya, right??? he doesn't *have* to protect chuuya from it, right? his keikaku that will allow him to use the antidote pill is done, right....? ....ah, but he has to protect chuuya... i see.... sasuga dazai) (unless dazai thinks that chuuya's ability would also hunt him down, in which case.......... dazai, you think yourself that important to chuuya that his ability will hunt you too, huh...... i see.... sasuga dazai)
....also.
dazai.
saying that this is within his predictions, while he's holding the collapsed chuuya to his thigh. still with his hands on chuuya's head. dazai....... why are you predicting that chuuya will end up in your lap. more importantly, why does your predictions END once you have chuuya in your lap. you're leaving the akuatsukyou children to fend for themselves and didn't predict the next parts because you got chuuya in your lap already. .....i see. sasuga dazai;;;;
(a sidenote. from above. fyodor sold the port mafia's information re: ability users to shibusawa. the ability users that shibu knows about will be in the collection room, their abilities getting taken from them. chuuya has his ability The Entire Movie. he didn't lose for the tainted sorrow, at all. so.
- chuuya's ability too strong and can't be extracted, just like atsushi - OR chuuya's ability not in port mafia records - OR chuuya's info is there, but incorrect/incomplete - OR chuuya's info is there, fyodor kept chuuya's ability's information and didn't sell it (a good theory for fyoya fans???) - OR collection room can only get abilities from humans?
(signs point to the first one....... but the other options are also hmmmmm)
- fyodor planting a broken crystal of shibusawa's original ability crystal on the skull's head (it looks like a goddamn horn) so that shibu becomes the "point of singularity" in lieu of the dragon bec dragon is dead. fog continues.
- shibusawa realizing that all his plot?? at collecting abilities? is just his way of trying to cope with the fact that his real thirst lies with atsushi. no really. he just really, really, really wants to see atsushi again.
- another sidenote: AGATHA IS A QUEEN. also, we're laughing about how Agatha is in command of EU. (no brexit in BSD world, apparently) (but also crying a bit because..... Verlaine and Rimbaud and the Trancendentals could be part of the clock tower order??? because there's 12 Transcendetals, there's 12 #s in a clock and they're from france, therefore europe, therefore part of EU therefore----)
- THAT FUKUMORI BACK TO BACK SCENE. MOTHER OF FUCK. mori having faith in dazai's keikaku..... but he's wrong.... because dazai's keikaku had already ended a few minutes ago, with chuuya in his lap. (but really. so mori can't 100% predict dazai, apparently. because mori thinks that it's still within dazai's plan, but dazai says it's not anymore, so.) also. mori being able to kill the ability-elise but not doing so because of the power of cute??? wow, just wow.
Mori: Fukuzawa-dono. Fukuzawa: What a coincidence, Mori-sensei. Mori: Are you having a problem? Fukuzawa: I've just had a glimpse of a solution. Mori: Excellent. Is it not at times like these that your daily actions speak? (They attack each other's abilities) Fukuzawa: I thought you only used your scalpel. I'll be careful from now on. Mori: No mercy, even for an endearing girl. The lone swordsman, Silver Wolf. You are indeed full of sin.* (CR: you are indeed guilty; ODEX: you are indeed, full of sin) Fukuzawa: That was nothing but a demon. Elise: Hey, Rintarou! What the heck are you doing, leaving me behind?! Mori: It's the real Elise-chan~ Fukuzawa: I think she's a demon either way.
- the akukyouatsu v shibu fight continues, with shibusawa basically saying, "ATSUSHI THE LIGHT OF MY LIFE" in repeat. the reference re: tiger v dragon is brought up. shibu says that he's not bored anymore bec atsushi's there.
- the tiger and the dragon are enemies. (more on that here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TigerVersusDragon) apparently, because the dragon represents all the abilities fused together, the tiger is the opposite (......so..... tiger = no abilities? hmmmmm. no wonder fyodor wants him. it's the fulfillment of his goal of a world without abilities, then?). shibu says that atsushi's ability is the opposite of all the abilities, the most special ability of all. atsushi's ability crystallizes, but before shibu can take it, atsushi grabs and says "that's not an ability, that's me!"
- (side note:
- i wasn't expecting that atsushi (whether it's the beast underneath the moonlight or the possibility that his is an ability that takes the form of his desires/wishes) would be the opposite of all the abilities. i would think it's more of dazai's or someone who can erase an ability, but. MC powers? - then again. all of shibusawa's info came from fyodor. so it's also highkey possible that this is all Fake News from fyodor)
Shibusawa: I understand everything, now. Why I'm here, why you appeared before me, and what his words mean... You... You must be the angel who saves me.
- shibu proving dazai right that "an angel" saved him, though technically a "demon" saved him "from death" before too....
- atsushi kills shibu for the second time by crushing his skull
- AGATHA. BEING DISAPPOINTED. THAT YOKOHAMA IS SAVED. because. "The scent of a burning nation goes well with tea." AGATHAAA
- at the end of fighting, chuuya's propped up against the wall of rubble (YOU KNOW THE ONE). his hat apparently landed a few feet away from him. (did dazai drag him there so he can be near his hat? did dazai look for the hat?? did the hat get magically pulled to where chuuya is??).
akutagawa appears.
chuuya asks what the hell is he doing here, then says that the idiot dazai is safe.
akutagawa..... bows to chuuya.
like damn.
akutagawa "DON'T YOU ORDER ME, YOU FOOL" ryuunosuke, bowing down to chuuya. a+++++++++
but then akutagawa starts to leave chuuya behind ahahahaha
and chuuya goes..... what, you're just gonna leave me here when you see i can't walk what. but seriously, his line is: "Oi. Lend me a shoulder."
(so.... dazai and chuuya were together till daybreak, in time for chuuya to wake up, for the spoonDI cover to be shot, for them to have matching bruises on their lips in that photo, huge smiles in their faces, for dazai to change clothes, for chuuya to be unable to walk.......... i don't to say they banged in the rubble, but they totally banged in the rubble.)
- dazai basically saying that, welp i did this keikaku and harmed so many things! - atsushi: but dazai is helping yokohama!!! - Dazai: Do I look like such a good person?
- atsushi.... i want to say it's your trust or that it's your naivete, but...... are you sure you have eyes lol
- dazai reveals that he hopes that shibu managed to fill his boredom and loneliness..... dazai, stop projecting your issues on others. stop helping others with your same issues achieve happiness.... do it to yourself first please.....
- as the ending song plays... we have this scene from ango:
Ango: Given the complexity of the three masterminds' motivations, we still don't have a full picture. Dazai-kun's the same as usual, and demon Fyodor's intentions are impossible to comprehend. But, beyond all the scheming and lying, the incident may fundamentally be very simple. How is a man like Shibusawa, so intelligent that others look like alien creatures to him, to act, to be destroyed, or to be saved? To be one of three aliens in the world, in isolation and loneliness... I can't even imagine it.
.....like, given the movie. it really is a good summary. all these genius aliens.... they actually have such simple thoughts.
- shibu did all of that, but he just really wanted to see atsushi again. - fyodor did all of that, but he just really wanted to be a bitch and have fun. (and maybe kill all ability users eventually) - dazai did all of that, but he just really wanted to try an apple suicide and be saved just like snow white.
.....one of it is not like the others, ahahaha;;;;;;
- chuuya looking beautiful in the ending scene, as he talks with mori
Chuuya: Were you aware of the trick, Boss? (*referring to dazai not really dying? and using that antidote pill?) Mori: Dazai-kun was acting on his own, and I expected he would need your help. As a forerunner. Chuuya: So I was an opening act? Mori: Dazai-kun decides the star. (in ODEX: Dazai-kun was the one who decided on the star.) Chuuya: And what do I get in return? Mori: The return of order in this city. Chuuya: The peace of this city, huh? Mori: Good work. Chuuya: You don't need to thank me. It was your order, so I'm just doing my job.
- asdfgj;asd - mori #1 soukoku shipper confirmed. like. even if he has that much faith in dazai's plans (see above), he also has a lot of belief that dazai's plans will work if chuuya's there to help.
and that "dazai decides the star"/"dazai decided (on you) being the star.... and chuuya....... just rolling with it. he's not ok with simply being an "opening act" ahhaahh. and mori knowing that dazai made the plan with chuuya having the starring role. and chuuya Knowing that too.
and here comes chuuya's concept of "reward" again.... does this boy get paid.......
chuuya's reward being yokohama's peace???? is he really part of the mafia??????????? a pure boy. someone give him the yokohama peace prize.
- second to the last scene is fyodor still creeping on them:
Fyodor: Everything is but entertainment. But in order to end this world, rife with crime and punishment, I really do need that book. The blank novel sleeping in this town.
(so Book's location is confirmed to be in Yokohama at this point)
- final scene with ADA doing business as usual and atsukyou going out for a mission? to buy crepes? to buy chazuke? idk
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Cartoon-Force Scene-Blast To The Past
(The GSD got word that an amateur super villains were building some sort of machine and dispatched Agents Savage and Walker along with Charles and a few of his Cartoon-Enforcers to apprehend him)
Charles:Okay-the whack-a-douches are in that building,Ed,Jar Jar,you two are with me,Jack and Cynthia-BD,004,Ozzy,shield all entrances,Jerome you,Patrick,Chestnut and Horace go to the opposite side of him surrounding him,we can’t let him be able to use his new do-dad,okay let’s go”
Jack:(After Charles is done talking)Tell me Coburn when did you become leader of this mission?”
Charles:My team,my orders Hare boy”
(They enter their Positions,while about to ambush him)
Cynthia:Shhhh-I think he’s saying something”
Voltar:(Monologing his plans-a villain cliche really?) Soon the League Of Super Evil will be known as the greatest villains ever in any time line-That is as soon as you get it started Frogg”
Dr.Frogg:I’m working as fast as I can Voltar-making a perfect time machine isn’t as easy as cartoon,tv,movies or videogames make them out to be”
Voltar:Whatever-just get it working,Red Menace you and Doomageddon check the perimeter”
Red Menace:Alright Voltar-Come Doomageddon good buddy(Doomageddon just gives an annoyed face)”
Charles:(Knowing who they are)Oh Lord not these losers”
Jack:I take it you know this lot?”
Charles:They’re the ‘League Of Super Evil’ or L.O.S.E if you want it short-wannabe villains who try to be # 1 but are shit at it”
Jack:Well these ‘Wannabe Shit Villains’ are making a time machine-if it works-”
Charles:Which I doubt it will-”
Jack:IF it works-they could overthrow a simpler time with no advance technology,making them kings”
Charles:Huh,those annoying bastards actually thought of a good plan”
Cynthia:But how did they acquire the money for parts?”
Jack:They probably robbed a bank”
Charles:However they got it we need to stop them”
(Outside-Red Menace and Doomageddon are on guard duty until Black Dynamite shows up,and gives Doomageddon a bone)
BD:(Petting his belly)Good boy good boy”
Red Menace:(Hears the noise)Whose-(sees BD)Oh hey Black Dynamite”
Black Dynamite:Hey Red(Red Menace gets knocked in the back of his head by 004)”
Red Menace:(Weakly says)And hey Albert(goes to sleep)-”
(Inside)
Dr.Frogg:Now the machine is ready Voltar”
Voltar:Finally-let’s claim our rightful place as-”
Charles:-The world’s biggest tools(he says making fun of them as his team surrounds them)-Hey Voltar,now give up”
Voltar:What?? Oh come on Charles,why can’t you guys just let us have this one victory?”
Charles:Well sorry V it’s my new job plus my wife is making fried chicken and potato wedges for Dinner and I plan to be home early for once-so please just surrender”
Dr.Frogg:(Knowing they’re beaten raises his arms up)Okay I give up”
Voltar:(Not wanting to give up for once)NOOOOOOOO-I am too close to glory(Activates the machine and sees it suck everything in it)”
Dr.Frogg:(Going Ballistic)VOLTAR ARE YOU CRAZY-I didn’t add in any specific coordinates-”
Voltar:I don’t care(grabs a too heavy for him to carry blaster and jumps into the portal)I will be a king(jumps in the portal)”
Jack:(Getting sucked into the portal)Help it’s sucking me in-”
Cynthia:(Grabbing his paw)I got you Savage”
Jerome:And we got you Walker(He and Patrick hold onto Cynthia while she holds onto Jack)”
Patrick:Uh guys-we’re still getting pulled in(slowly gets pulled in until he trips on a rock flinging them into the portal)”
Jack,Cynthia,Jerome,Patrick:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaah(he portal shuts down)”
Charles:NOOOOOO:(Grabs Frogg’s collar)Where did it send them?”
Dr.Frogg:I think you mean ‘when’ did it send-gak(Charles grabs his collar tighter)”
Charles:Not in the mood Frogg”
Dr.Frogg:If I’m reading the controls correctly It seems Voltar and your friends have been transported to-(reads the screen)1988?”
Charles:(Face going blank as he said 1988)Well.........Fuck me(smacks his hand on his face)”
(Jack,Cynthia,Patrick and Jerome are transported to 1988)
Jack:Oh God where are we?”
Patrick:I think you mean ‘when’ are we”
Jack:Not now Star”
Jerome:Well the setting does look(Sees tacky clothes,parachute pants,teens carrying oversized boomboxes over their shoulders and....mullets!!!!)oh shit-”
Cynthia:What is it Jerome?”
Jerome:We’re in the 1980′s(reads a newspaper)correction July 17 1988-hey ‘Die Hard’ made the highest grossed movie in theaters”
Cynthia:1988-this was long before me or Jack were born”
Jack:How would Voltar rule this time line-granted the technology isn’t advanced but still-”
Jerome:No clue but we got to-”
Thug 1:Well well well-what do we have here?”
Thug 2:A couple uh tourists bud”
Thug 3:Well if they’s knews what’s good for thems they give us their money(sees Cynthia)or the pretty lady’s number hachacha”
Cynthia:Why you-”
Man in a hoodie:Why don’t you goombas leave the nice people alone”
Thug 1:Dis don’t concerns yous yuh mook-now beats it befo we gets(Hoodie man punches the 1st thug in the face)”
Thug 2:Joey”
Thug 3:Yous done it now joik(jerk)”
(The thugs attack the hooded man but he quickly dis arms the guys breaking their arms,legs and stomps on their....’delicates’)
Thug 2:Man(covering his middle region)this is bogus”
Thug 1:Let’s get outta heres befo the cops shows up”
(The thugs leave and the hooded man looks at the gang)
Hooded man:You folks okay?”
Jack:We are,thanks for the help but we could’ve handled ourselves-I’m Jack Savage,This is Cynthia Walker,Patrick Star and Jerome”
Hooded Man:You two aren’t Patrick Star and Jerome-for one the Pat I know has not beard and Jerome ain’t that old”
Jerome:And how would you know that? who are you”
Hooded man:Who am I?”
(Removes his hood to reveal himself to be....)
Charles:Charles David Coburn the first”
(Everyone looks at the young Charles in shock-especially Jack and Cynthia because they have never seen Charles with clean non spiked hair or a mustache not a beard)
Jack:Charles??Is that really you?”
Charles:???........Have we met before?”
Jack:Yes-I mean not yet but we will-you just..............look so different like from when we know you”
Charles:When?-Oh you must be time travelers like in that Terminator movie-God love that movie-That would explain Commando Patrick and Old Dog Jerome-I’d ask more about future me but the whole ‘knowing the future will destroy it’ junk won’t let you so I won’t-follow me I’ll show you to my base”
(They follow him and in the shadows Voltar hides)
Voltar:so this is 1988-Yeah this will be perfect”
THE END-till part 2 comes along
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