#you too Christian God

[noknowshame]

why is religious Christmas imagery all so joyful and pleasant? where is the inherent horror of the birth of Christ? A mother is handed her newborn child, wailing and innocent. Her hands come away sticky. Red. Simply by giving her son life she has already killed him. He is doomed from the beginning. Her love will not save him from suffering. Because the thing cradled in her arms is not a baby, it is a sacrifice: born amongst the other bleating animals whose blood will one day be spilled in the name of what demands it. the night is silent with anticipation. Mary, did you know? That your womb was also a grave?

#instant conversation enders for my multiple youth pastor cousins #don’t say it (I’m gonna say it) #The Child is The Price #but i mean come on #as someone who isn't actually even christian the real-life historical version of this is still cursed as fuck #i mean we know that jesus was a person who existed. whatever circumstances he was born in #its terrifyingly ominous to imagine being so unaware of the affect your child will have on the future of humanity #time itself will one day be counted around your birth of him #and all because he will suffer an excruciatingly painful death that you will not be able to prevent #not only that. but regardless of his or your intentions #regardless of whether there is a god #for millenea unfathomable millions will have blood spilled and will spill blood in his name #atrocities will be committed that you cannot even conceive of #and all on his and your behalf #you love your child. its beautiful. but there's horror in what you've done. because everyone else will love him too #and what's more dangerous than that?

[birdsareblooming]

evangelicals are a fucking disgrace and none of them are seeing heaven

#sorry just saw the images of supposed christians in the pro isreal rally and speeches and felt fucking sick to my stomach #you have burned the texts of your god and follow genocidal fuckwads instead #your god is not my god and your heart is blackened #if you do not think any good god wouldn't condemn you you're already too far gone #free palestine #im so fucking sick

[adhd-merlin]

Christian iconography? in my Merlin??

#it's more likely than you think #ok has anyone written meta about religion in merlin or #i don't mean based on historical facts #i mean literally based on merlin canon #because i'm fascinated #they didn't dwell too much on it (for understandable reasons) #but that scene where merlin talks to his mother and says “THE GODS will protect me”? #implying they're both polytheists #whereas arthur and gaius say things like “thank god” #i'm reading too much into things again probably #i just want to know if the writers gave it some thought even if it wasn't included in the show #i don't know shit about the introduction of christianity to britain but like #isn't it roughly around this time that it was gaining predominance over paganism (5th-ish century??) #so it's possible yeah? idk idk #i just wanna know if the writers thought about any of this #or if merlin mentioning “the gods” was just a random line #merlin #bbc merlin #ramblings #merlin meta #eta: pls read added meta in the reblogs! (not mine)

[momentsbeforemass]

Not your story to tell

One of the signs that you are an adult is having adult realizations.

Moments of clarity. About things that only adults understand.

Sometimes our adult realizations don’t really matter. But they still mark us as adults.

Like having a favorite burner on the stove (lower right, the only correct answer – fight me).

But other times, adult realizations can be soul crushing.

Like realizing that you are the villain in someone’s story.

No matter how you see yourself. No matter what you do or how hard you try. No matter how objectively good and kind and loving you truly are. No matter who’s really to blame.

There’s someone who used to be your friend. There’s a relationship that didn’t work out. There’s someone you let down. And a thousand other ways it happens. All of them leading to the same thing.

You are the villain in someone’s story.

The reason this adult realization hits so hard? There’s nothing you can do about it.

No matter how much they mean to you. No matter how close you used to be. No matter how wrong or unjust it might be.

There’s nothing you can do about it. Because it’s not your story to tell.

You’ve already lost the relationship that’s behind their story. And now you get to lose out on moments and connections with everyone who gets to hear the story – the one where you’re the villain.

It’s a lose-lose situation. And you’re doing all the losing.

There’s only one time that I know of when this dynamic works in our favor – when it comes to God.

No matter how you see yourself. No matter what you did or how long it’s been. No matter how objectively small and petty and vain you truly are. No matter who’s really to blame.

You are the beloved in God’s story.

No matter how hard you’ve pushed God away. No matter how far away you think are. No matter how much you don’t deserve it.

You are the beloved in God’s story.

And there’s nothing you can do about it. Because it’s not your story to tell.

Today’s Readings

#God's Beloved #Villain #God #Jesus #Catholic #Christian #Church #God's Story #God Loves You #Too Far Gone #Moments Before Mass #Blame

[rhodesmusic]

jesus christ impaled on a wednesday i hate hate HATE it when christianity is brought into mathematics. people pushing their agenda by saying shit like "this beautiful mathematical thing proves the existence of GOD" or "GOD made math and we're just discovering it". that is SO fucking rancid for so many reasons and half the time the people that say those kinds of things hold math in a purely qualitative sence in their mind, thinking that because they got a mandelbrot zoom in their reccomended they eat breathe and shit math out their asshole on the spiritual level

no matter how hard our education systems bastardize the subject, compressing their concepts into a pristine meaninglessness to cull the young person's imagination across the land, nor how well their nouns verbs and adjectives describe what we see in the universe, mathematics at it's heart is a form of SELF EXPRESSION. nothing, NOTHING I SAY in this world we live in would be as FUCKING PSYCHOTIC as to suggest us to dwell over how a bunch of IMAGINARY IDEAS relate to one another along patterns and symmetries, other than OURSELVES. we started doing math because it offers a kind of fulfillment unlike any other artform. the difference between mathematics and other arts is that our culture doesn't see it as one.

mathematics is not about facts, or even worse, about "rules", but rather about the IDEAS that went into drawing such conclusions. similarly, the only thing more beautiful than math's polyhedra, infinitely intricate fractal shapes, and other pictures such as the ones abraham and jacob here put in their thumbnails, are the MADE UP IDEAS that constitute them, ideas that we have thought up for no good reason other than we find doing so lovely. wonderful. fulfilling and completing.

if some BRICK LICKER named EZEKIEL went out to an art fair and proclaimed with their righteous ass vocal cords, "all these paintings, all these works of art, all of these were drawn by GOD and HERE'S WHY", they'd rightfully be told to go off and HUFF DICK, but when it's mathematics it passes with nodding heads because our culture doesn't see math as any kind of self-expression, instead as a bunch of statements and sedentary pictures to worship, bend over, and take cock for to achieve some higher level of virtuosity.

"but how can the Mandelbrot set have infinite complexity as you zoom into it, that has to be god right there!!!" perhaps if you ever pondered the distinguishing complex numbers, how recursive processes ballet with its algebraic structure, the geometry unfolding into chaos along an infinitesimal boundary, all things that DON'T ACTUALLY FUCKING EXIST IN OUR WORLD BUT WILL STILL BE THOUGHT OF FOR OUR SAKES, LEST WE LET THE IDEA GO COLD AS WE SHIVER IN THE ABSENCE OF THE WARMTH OF ITS SIMPLE CHARM, then you wouldn't resort to implementing an omnipotent figure in order to fulfill your inclination to have the wonder be explained by anything besides the creativity of humans.

oh, but questioning the words of the bible? now that's sacrilege.

HOLY SHIT.

#one thing that im too infuriated to mull over right now. im christian. my fatherly figure has made me attend the catholic mass once a week #for the entirety of my life thus far. im not writing this to diss the religion (despite it entailing dissing). however you find beauty #and or dignity in god and the bible. let respect and peace and love be found in that but please for the love of daddy g and little j dont #use that to indoctrinate mathematics. ill put mulch in your shoes and plant pride flags in your lawn if you do #math #mathematics #rant #rant post #christianity #mathblr #rhodes math #rage

[bonefall]

NGL: Stuff like Brambleclaw being a terrible namer is like. really fun but also kinda hits with the 'he;s not some meglomaniacl villain hes just a shitty guy'. like. you could see squirrelflight finding that really endearing. IDK if this is some mastermind shit, or if i'm just reading wayyyyy to into this, but i like how you give characters that are pretty bad dudes very humanising qualities. Especially when they're silly/cute. Kinda reminds you that like. theyre like. a person. well. cat but yknow. and they chose to do bad shit, with influence from their past, rather than being inherently terrible. 👍

YEAH MAN, that's what I'm SAYING

Abusers, ideologues, and other terrible people are not masterminds. They aren't born evil. They're not inherently smart OR stupid. They can love, they can be funny and polite, they do things they believe are justified and want to be good people. They don't think of themselves as villains.

Evil isn't complex. It's really, really not. I feel like that's the #1 cause of confusion when I get a question like, "Why does this person do this malicious act, when it's bad/inconsistent/mean?" The answer is always simple;

They wanted to control someone.

They wanted something and didn't mind who they hurt.

Spite and short-sightedness.

Look for anything deeper and you will not find it. Heroics are complex, being a good person is ongoing and changes over time. We're in a constant state of growing. Malice is childishly simple; it feels good to get what you want.

With Bramblestar especially... it always goes back to what I said here, when talking about the idea of an Evil!Bramble. He's a person, and you ruin everything that's so interesting about him by stripping away that nuance. Squilf and Bramble loved each other, truly, and legitimately. He can be charming. He can be nice. He still hurts her. Reconcile with this.

He is not wiser for what he went through, as a child. His pain doesn't make him better. Man's just a jerk... that's it.

#Sparkpelt deserves that scene from God The Devil and Bob #Where Bob finds out his dad isn't in Hell #And it INFURIATES him #If you haven't seen that scene btw you should. I really love that series #Especially if you're religious OR are like me where you aren't but are still fascinated by more human takes on biblical figures #Btw just... as a side note I am intrigued by how many of my followers are christian. It surprises me? I love you guys tho but like... #I really don't hold back in my critique of hierarchical religion #I'm glad that I am respectful enough to not alienate you guys though #I'm glad you're finding something meaningful too #I am an A-A-A-ATHEIST though with a hard ATH #I just never thought I would have so many religious people following along #OH BTW I hope all my Jewish followers are having a meaningful and somber Yom Kippur* #Bone babble #* = edited I'm an idiot

[timeisacephalopod]

The type of Christian who asks atheists how they don't like, murder people on the reg are so funny to me because they seem to think their religion makes them the Peak of Morality when statements like "if you don't believe in God how comes you don't do X thing" all but outright state they have no idea why shit like murder and rape is bad except that God doesn't like it lmao. Like way to admit you have no intrinsic sense of morality and need to be afraid of a higher power to be a decent person, but I promise if you're not a piece of shit it's actually very natural not to want to do heinous evil shit all the time potential punishment from a higher power or not 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

#winters ramblings #seriously its SO funny when that happens because every time its like ??? the FUCK kind of thoughts do you have #to ask HOW i resist doing evil shit all the time because i dont fear god because i dont believe in God?? #what kind of fucked up person do you haveto be to only resist killing people because of fear of a higher power?? #these are people to avoid because typically they also come with the issue of using their religion to make any action they want #perfectly Good and Moral because GOD said it its in the BIBLE whether thats true or not and like bible or no #if you have no intrinsic sense of morality i dont want to hear about atheist morality from you lmao #not that athiests lack issues i swear to god white dudes who evangelize atheism like its their new religion #have WILDLY missed the point and often suffer the same problem as the aforementioned Christians #wherein the onky thing thats ever given them any kind of pushback is the church so they decide RELIGION is horrible and bad as a whole #which isnt true religion can be a perfectly lovely amazing thing for people but that brand of atheist #doesnt seem to understand that people turned away from the church because of wide spread abuse and discrimination not because #believing in god makes you literally mentally ill like some of these fuckos act like. abelist AND shite to religious folks in one fowl swoop #so you know atheists have problems too but like they arent making laws in their beliefs images across the world so you know #temper the criticism with how influential the group actually is although richard dawkins types DID get a lot of space to spew their idiocy #like dawkims if you think youre SOOOO much smarter than christians how come you have ALL the same misogyny problems?? #youre not that smart and logical if youve decided a whole kind of person is inherently less than you buddy. in fact thats very Christian #of him actually. funny when that happens but again if you dont actually know WHY something is a problem #its very easy to say Thats Bad and then literally do the exact same thing you just condemned because when YOU do it its no longer bad #because its got YOUR flavor of fucked up morality on it now instead of being like hmm maybe Christianity isnt a problem #because it EXISTS but because a lot of people use their religion as a pointed barb to discriminate against huge swaths of people #and often the intolerance becomes a legal issue when Christians and other religious majorities shove through laws based on EXCLUSIVELY their #religions and opinions and that doesnt mean religion should be dismantled it means we ahould tell religious folk who would know what #morality was if it fucked them up the ass to shut up and figure out what morality is outside of rekigion before they start legislating about #it and whatnot. also i wish extreme opinions werent ALL the news focused on exclusively on the political right #can we platform some NORMAL well adjusted christians who are god loving AND not a bunch of wingnuts #who are two steps away from arguing thou shall not kill only applies to people they LIKE because they dont seem to understand #maybe murder is bad when EVERYONE does it not just The Bad People??!?!

[kingslionheart]

If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. That's why bad things happen to me. It is about the sins of my father. And my sins.

#I WILL GIF THIS ENTIRE SCENE BECAUSE IT HASN'T LEFT MY MIND SINCE I HAVE WATCHED IT YESTERDAY #david's performance was something else here #no one portrays christian guilt as this man does #he nails it every single time #and the way this character is SO alfred coded is making me cry even more #i will totally make parallels between aaron and alfred some day soon #but for the whole time it almost seemed like he was portraying alfred and it hit me SO FUCKING MUCH #the similiarities are so obvious #i fucking see you david #i saw what you were doing with the body language #and the fact that aaron is canonically queer?? #i already saw alfred TOO MUCH during the scenes and then this one scene happened and GOD #i died a thousand times #anyway the target audience of this gifset is ME #you are welcome #my gifs #the burning girls #aaron marsh #reverend jack brooks #david dawson #samantha morton

[soullessjack]

to me one of the most fucked up things about godjack and that whole “oh Cas and jack are doing excel spreadsheets in heaven now isn’t that so silly” thing and whatever is like. why are you putting them back into the system that abused and manipulated them. cas was literally lobotomized and forced to kill fake deans numerous times to condition him back into being the blind soldier that angels are supposed to be. jack is considered an undesirable abomination by heaven and all of the original nephilim were basically culled from existence by the flood as a result of that undesirability, but at the same time he’s still powerful enough to be desired as a weapon and extorted as such. that’s totally not vaguely eugenicist! and like, both cas and jack were conditioned into doing horrible things by heaven, things that have left deep scarring on both their psyches and senses of worth. jack tortured and murdered another subset of undesirables, the nonbelievers, and the worst part is that he only did it because he thought he was making up for Mary. His guilt was extorted and weaponized and only led to more guilt. once he realized what he’d done.

cas was nearly complicit in the apocalypse and wholly the murder of Lily Sunder’s seven-something year old daughter, again bc she was an undesirable abomination much like Jack was . And he was conditioned into that complicity, tortured repeatedly into believing total complicity and faith in The Plan was Good, or not even good, just a vague and abstract version of justification. he declared war and committed genocide on half of his “siblings,” and comrades, because he was a soldier and war is his lifestyle and if he can find any justification for what he does he will do it and he was taught to value the end before examining the means by which he could get to it, because that’s how heavens system works. ironically I’d say it’s fairly close to Christian fundamentalism, but also capitalism and militarism as well.

Like oh hey, you were born into a corrupt system that raised you with no sense of free will, individuality, or personhood, and encouraged blind obedience and justification of everything in the name of some vague absolution? You belong to a specific group of individuals who are deemed undesirable by the system unless you can be extorted for its gain? Why don’t you just join it and perpetuate it with a few inconsequential changes instead of fully dismantling it because it’s corrupt by design!! yay silly spreadsheets !!!!!!

I know spn isnt trying to run heaven as any sort of actual system or commentary on real life systems, believe me i know it’s not good enough to do that, but even if you take away that lens of heaven and just focus on the face value show canon of what it did to Cas and jack.. it’s still so bleak

#I’ve been thinking about this forever #and especially now that I’m watching shiny happy people and seeing how Christian fundamentalism aand #and the way it melds with capitalism too. I’m seeing patterns . I know they aren’t there on purpose but god #spn #supernatural #jack kline #castiel #cas and jack #dadstiel #if I reach a little more I can connect Cas’ lobotomy to the systemic abuse of queer/mentally ill ppl in the past #the undesirables. #it’s just. ugh #spn angels #stuff #like am I crazy here . I’m crazy. im a crazy commie lol #but wow it’s just #Cas and jack both being canonically autistic too.. being undesirable in their own ways.. Do you see what I mean #lily sunder has some regrets #I’m lily sunders number one fan btw . love her

[urproblematicfav-arsonk]

I think what fucks me up about Hazbin Hotel the most is that it was such an internet darling ya know? It started on YouTube as a shitty little furry indie project and had such a strong fandom connection with the cleanup streams and the voice actors being active participants in the fandom's survivability. This shit took goddamn years to go or get anywhere and the only things keeping it alive were nothing little comics and the community that was built around that. The cast was mostly unknowns or other YouTubers which just added to this raw and real energy the series had. It was messy and clearly had a fuckton of effort put into it.

And then it got picked up to be a Actual™ TV show. And obviously that's amazing, duh. I can't imagine how it feels to have your stupid goddamn bill cipher looking ass furry oc(pos) be on fucking amazon prime lol. But watching everything that even got us there in the first place be stripped away and replaced just,,,,, feels terrible honestly. As far as I'm aware most of that came down to unions and whatever technical garbage goes on behind the scenes for TV series getting made but still. I don't have anything against the new cast, obvi they just doing their jobs and I think what they have done is good but there's something so upsetting about The Idie Project Finally Makes It!!!!!! but we replaced everyone with broadway stars and Disney actors lol.

And then the animation is just,,,,, not that good? The pilot has it's problems on a technical level but what it does have is soul and goddamn movement. It's bouncy and passionate while the amazon show is limited and stiff and saving the effort for small bursts to look really COOL and then go back to lower effort. Does it look more polished and "clean"? Sure. But it lacks and meaningful creativity and life. Idk the volatility but someone said something about not paying/treating animators right and that makes complete sense considering the industry we're talking about. Which sucks cuz you'd think that a Real TV Show budget and shit would get you a better end result.

Anyway I think the point I was making was something something capitalism bad something something capitalism ruins all art why didn't verbalase just fund the a complete independent version of the show

#thank you and good night has got me feeling some ways #there was love and joy and laughter it wasn't perfect but we tried #god aaaa #also black gryphOn has such a unique voice and thats not something you can just swap out #so does edward bosco too tbh #obvi we love Christian boyle #but im obsessed with silva hound using DAgames for Vox #like imagine if we kept this in the YouTube sphere ya know #it sucks too cuz having richard horvits on felt like a win and like whoa cool popular voice actor on our show!! #and then the entire hazbin cast is just swapped out with Hollywood and it feels awful #hazbin hotel #helluva boss #hazbin hotel season 1 #vivziepop

[abnerkrill]

exvangelicals and similar. isn’t it wild how you thought you understood the concept of “dying to yourself” as a sheltered youth only to realize with sudden clarity when you were a little more grown up that the old self that needs killing is in fact the self that was formed through church teachings; and the new self being resurrected is all the things you were taught to hate & fear.

#this just in: there is a whole genre of books by faithful queer Christians going to bat for the integration of healthy sexuality + #healthy faith; and I’ve kind of avoided that genre bc what could they possibly have to say that’s new to me? #but it’s actually very helpful to read them and go Oh you too. oh we’re in this together. #Oh framing my journey in light of how many queer people of faith wrestle God on the daily… is actually beneficial for me #queer people of faith actually having informed discussions of purity culture and sexuality and ethical formation. #we really are out here raising a generation up against the rigid norms we were raised with. #anyway read beyond shame if you’re coming out of purity culture lol 👍

[blood-orange-juice]

*eyeing yet another "Childe is a Christ figure" theory*

The human urge to sacrifice someone to solve their problems.

(I really hope that's what turns out to be the Fontainian 'sin' or maybe the original Enkanomiya sin even.

sacrificing a divine being so that they could keep their petty lives and not solve the problems they were responsible for. pretending that nothing happened

or maybe even that's what was wrong with Teyvat's creation)

#childe #tartaglia #fontaine #killing a god to become a god seems noble in comparison #it requires at least some measure of personal responsibility #you can see I have beef with a certain religion #but also I have faith in our boy and I hope he breaks that trope too #very tired of christian references #especially when they don't have depth #and also #in the‚ ahem‚ original it was not the sacrifice that did the trick #it was the god's forgiveness #transcending the unforgivable and making it unimportant #(ok. maybe I could tolerate a christian reference like that) #(since this guy does tend to make horrible things unimportant) #(but I would still very much prefer him to be a different kind of orphic story) #(no forgiveness‚ just cosmic indifference and some new knowledge about the universe) #(you have to die to learn certain things) #(that's how it has always been)

[toastybugguy]

one of those days when shit just happens to you and you realize you probably will never get closure and will have to learn how to cope with it on your own. good god. where is the fucking rewind button!!

#toasty talks #rant incoming #I just want to turn my brain off #god. #I often forget how much people can suck when you exit your bubble #this morning has been awful. shoutout to church groups. I hope everyone there explodes #I don’t think I’ll be going again. we tried folks we tried but I am so emotionally drained and unwell after that. #sue me for assuming as a trans Christian my pov would be helpful in a class LITERALLY talking about gender identity #but instead the moment my experience challenges or doesn’t apply to them they get teary because oh WE’VE felt hurt in our lives too!! #how dare you assume we don’t understand!! (<- still cisgender!! so no!!! you don’t understand!!!!) #fuck them honestly they can figure it out by themselves #I am so tired of this #I would take a staunch conservative any day over these 30 something liberal terfdipshits who can’t stand a conversation not being about them #when the class is. again. LITERALLY about gender identity. christ. #my brother will be home next week and will probably go to the class so MAYBE. MAYBE I will go to that meeting but I really don’t know. #if it’s too much then I am not going back. fuck them fuck them fuck them

[existennialmemes]

God Gives His

Wackiest Battles

to his

Silliest Soldiers

but he can't stop us

soon our shenanigans will dethrone that fraud for good

#shitpost #shitposting #silly posting #anti christianity #when i say god i mean the hegemonic Christian one #the concept of which has been weaponized against me for too long #they can have it i do not describe my concept of Divinity with that word anymore #because now it represents a very unlikable character in my mind #the stern faces man saying Thou Shall Not #it's just not for me 🤷🏻‍♀️ #I'm still a jewish witch though so militant anti-theists this isn't for you

[christiangeistdorfer]

CHRISTIAN GEISTDÖRFER & WALTER RÖHRL, 1980s

#AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH #YOU GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH MY GOD !!!!!!!! #i literally screamed cried rolled on the floor broke a window smashed a door [all in that order] when i saw this picture #yeah i'm not gonna be normal about christian here #look at that little ball of sunshine !!! he is about to play his little war games !!! and im gonna stand by him. #stand by my evil and slutty wife #he. #christian geistdörfer #oh yeah walter's there too #walter röhrl

[bijoumikhawal]

one thing bugging me about bajoran religion and world building is its implied worshipping the Pagh Wraiths isn't like, a new thing in Bajoran culture (obviously they were originally part of the Prophets, but they seen to have retained worship after that) and they're a despised religion, but the way that operates irl is more complex than how DS9 allows it by very literally making the Pagh Wraiths villains? I always hate when fantasy and sci-fi media does this "evil god with evil worshippers" thing because of this

#cipher talk #Ds9 #Bajor #Bajoran culture #Actual examples of 'evil' god with actual worshippers: how gnostics viewed Jews and Early Christians #How monotheistic religions usually view other religions #Etc. Obviously you can immediately see how the 'evil' god and followers are not actually evil here #Also it's interesting how the Pagh Wraiths seem more linear than the Prophets #The way they speak and engage with people comes off as more human-like #Could be that they got kicked out over something related to that- the prophets got annoyed with Sisko for asking them to meddle too much #And the line used by their worshippers was abt how the prophets allowed the occupation iirc... hmmm #Maybe they got kicked out for wanting to meddle in linear affairs too much