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#young justice season three
itsgothgirlthyme · 2 years
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Edin and Zatanna s3
I have a spin off I guess, after a certain event which will be official in my fic I had this scenario in my head. Nightwing ended up giving an important mission to Edin which she has to be quiet about. In the end she gets really hurt and he was too ashamed to talk to her about. Edin runs away and turns to villains for some reason. So this is my scenario with her and Zatanna after it all. It takes place in s3.
Note: I hate the spacing in this halp, and I like that i haven’t given the actual story but instead have posted my non-canon things… my grammar is so bad- so please keep that in mind also :,)
Cw: Violence, hurt stuff, if others let me know :)
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Running inside the temple with overgrown vines and cracked stone the young woman took in the darkness. Slowing her pace as her shoes echoed throughout the old building. Being sent here annoyed the fallen angel but she rather be doing something with her time.
Perhaps she should have taken Cheshire’s offer but that meant she might see Batman and Edin had a feeling it wouldn’t go too well. Brushing off the thought she continued her walk. Her fingertips brushed up against dusted walls that were cool to her touch.
The woman watched through her plain black mask that hid her entire face for anything out of place. When nothing caught her ears she eased her stretched out fingers.
Easy grab, she thought. Though she still didn’t understand why someone more, magical, had taken the job. She barely was in touch with any of her magic and only used it if necessary these past years. The woman dressed in black suit adjusted the mask that went over her once bright copper eyes. The mask hid the true frame of her face and was made wood, it was a parting gift from a fellow assassin. There were slits for her eyes to see through but were covered by a mesh.
“In and out,” She sighed and walked into the open room that made her stomach turn.
Pillars raised the middle of the temple and circled around multiple entrances. In the middle of the room there was a much shorter pillar with patterns and ruins inscribed in it. On top of it, covered in moonlight, made the woman gasp. Laying there casually was a pitch black necklace that held the form of a curled up wolf. It was smaller than the palm of her hand but the power it held was immeasurable.
She edged closer to the middle of the room. That’s why they wanted her here, because she was one of the few who could retrieve it. The piece of jewelry was crafted by the goddess of death herself.
Pause.
Mouth dry and hands stuck to the brunette girls' sides. Her body stiffened and she stared in shock. They wanted her to use it.
Interrupting her thoughts a white light at the other side of the room made her look straight at it. Edin waited for the dramatic entrance to be over.
Gloved hands made their way down to her thighs, where straps for her knives laid. Immediately the aura of the guest in the temple made the girls lips part.
Standing on the other side of the room was an old friend and someone who would have to be an enemy. A woman with black hair was wading a magician inspired outfit looked around the room
Swallowing any potential words the other woman slowly walked up to the podium. Eyes snapped across the room and the magician watched her.
An incantation formed on her lips and pushed the former hero to a wall. A grunt escaped Edin’s lips from the impact. Slowly the villain pushed herself up from the rubble. Not too fazed by the warning. She got up and felt her body already healing up any new scratches and bruises.
The justice league member wide eyed, watched the woman rise from the rubble with ease.
The enemy wouldn’t look her in the eyes and instead decided to run towards the podium. Quickly another sentence escaped Zatanna's mouth and the villain was pushed down to the ground. Edin’s body felt incredibly weighed down as she sat on her knees and hands.
“You should go rob a museum or bank instead,” Said the former friend with slight annoyance.
Zatanna huffed and was tempted to scoff. Clearly she hadn't planned her night with a thief who thought they could wheeld a death charm.
She actually scoffed and the other woman pushed her hands to the sides and grabbed her knives. Two small blades sped their way to the hero who easily dodged them but gave enough time for the villain to get off the ground.
Taking in a deep breath she felt a warmth in her chest. That spread across her body and focused the heat on her hands and feet. Still on her knees the woman punched the floor with one fist. Cracking the ground underneath the two and making the building crumble. The pillars across the ancient building slowly started to make the temple fall in itself.
Another incantation created a light around the room that stabilized the thousands year old temple. In those seconds of the incantation a breeze hit the sorcerer's face and she was punched in the stomach.
Tumbling on to the ground the woman gasped while resting her hand on her stomach. Zatanna opened her mouth for another spell even out of breath. Though she was stopped when a piece of cloth replaced her words.
A hand pushed her head down as she attempted to get up. Zatanna let out a groan from the stone hitting the back of her head. Quickly a pair of hips wrapped around the leaguers. The masked woman looked down at the person she called a friend once. Heart rising, the old friend tried to move but was stuck under the weight of the other.
The cloth was now tied around Zatanna’s mouth to the back of her head. Knock her out and leave, Edin told herself but couldn’t resist the craving she had. The one for attention.
Curiosity got to Edin as she kept the woman on the ground. She hadn’t seen any of her friends this close since she left two years ago. She’d wondered why they had given up on her. So easily as well. Not even the one who drove her away came to her.
Slowly while her own breath got slower and her heart now beat at a comfortable pace. Her hand that covered the woman’s mouth slowly pulled away. Loading her head to meet the other ear she let out a low whisper.
“Did you get weaker without me,” She said softly in her old friend's ear.
Breath hitched and choking on the cloth Zatanna looked with wide eyes. Watching the other pull away and continue to look down at her. It only took the magician seconds to recognize her best friend who she thought had given up on the world of heroes and villains was sitting on top of her.
Muscles relaxed under the goddess' grasp after the realization. Feeling exposed, the angel slowly backed away from the curious eyes. Her heart slowly picked up pace and a twinge of relief escaped. Releasing the hold on the cloth and letting her arms free. Slowly the raven haired girl took out the cloth and raised her upper body.
Craning her neck towards the brunettes while being inches away from each other. Cold hands wrapped around the sorcerer to unwrap the cloth. Still not budging from her spot she made eye contact with Zatanna.
“Oh my god… Edin,” She said under her breath not truly believing the presence in front, or was on top of her.
Gentle hands wrapped around the ex-hero’s back as her eyes widened. Eyes that were on the brim of tears under a mask. Slowly she wrapped her arm around her friend and cradled her head with her hand. The old friend rested her head on Zatanna’s shoulder and the tears escaped. The angel wrapped her arm around the other woman and used her other free hand to take off her mask.
It clunked on to the floor as the sobs continued into her best friend's shoulders.
Moments passed with Edin letting out what she had held in the past couple years. While Zatanna sat on the floor and gave her all she could offer. Her kind heart was banging against her chest but she did her best to cover it up.
Pulling away the shorter woman slowly got off the other. The black mask was once again in her hands and she got up. She turned around but before she could get far a hand was wrapped around her wrist.
Watching Edin hiding up her tears put a bad taste in the sorcerer's mouth. She’d always hated her hiding her feelings from everyone and she even warned her it wouldn't do her any good. Which showed in that moment.
Now standing, Zatanna eyed her friend back.
“What happened?” She asked with eyebrows furrowed and voice laced with concern.
Shoulders moving as the fallen angel turned back around. Copper glazed eyes stared down at the ground.
“What do you think happened?” The brunette asked not with annoyance but genuine curiosity.
Rising from the floor the taller woman kept her eyes on the fallen angel. Eyeing her shoulder blades, noticing the spots in between them were covered up by the black suit. Zatanna had remembered the news distinctly of when she lost her wings. She felt god awful and did her best to comfort Edin. Which worked and the two had become close until something went wrong and Edin abruptly left.
She recalled the night the girl had walked into her home drunk and she had told the magician everything. She explained the wings were a part of her that created her hero identity and represented her mother. The legacy that distinguished herself from others.
Blue eyes blinked as Edin looked down at her mask. Gently holding it in her hands while whipping any left over tears.
“Nightwing… told us you had to take some personal time. That he would talk to you.” She regretted her words because she knew at the time something was wrong.
Clearly she was right because the goddess formed her free hand into a fist. The woman could only hold back more tears and her anger.
Zatanna told her friend that she felt guilty about her actions as tears streamed down her own pale face. The guilt in her chest consumed her head and made her forget the reason why she was here.
The copper eyed woman eyed her mask that she had worn the past two years. It sickened her that she chose a much more violent group of people to help but the heroes were just as violent. They also told lies, created mistrust between each other and made sacrifices for the “job”. Then justifying them. Some villains did the same but quite a few didn’t.
The ‘villains’ she met and befriended over time showed similar traits towards society’s ‘heroes’.
There were those that comforted her while they took care of her broken state and helped her rebuild. Finally someone had listened to her words and took them to heart. While overtime she was able to help them. They also had a code of honesty.
On the other hand the heroes she grew up knowing became family. Took her in and helped master her abilities. Let them help her mission of helping others. Despite all the good there were those that neglected her issues and the ones she trusted the most betrayed her. One thing she knew was that she never gave them a chance to forgive her but they clearly didn’t show interest even now. Except the person she adored the most was only a few steps away. Crying her heart out because of Edin.
Now she faced the question. The question she was warned about. The one she wasn’t ready to answer.
Which family would she choose?
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sflow-er · 11 months
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YR Season 3 speculations: a layperson’s take on the criminal justice side
I’ve been considering making this kind of post for a while, because I’ve seen a lot of hopeful takes on how things are going to play out now that Sara has called the police, and I feel like I could add some perspective for those less familiar with the Swedish justice system. I hesitate to do it because I’m just a layperson and not even from Sweden but the next country over - but our justice systems are reasonably similar, I’ve spent a lot of time poring over relevant sources on Swedish law and justice, and @scatteredpiecesofme encouraged me to do this after our conversation yesterday.
So, here goes, haha.
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As usual, I could very well be wrong about some things, and I welcome any additions or corrections!
Part 1: The system
Let’s start with a cultural observation: the criminal justice system in Sweden strives to be rehabilitative (restorative) instead of strictly punitive (retributive). This is especially true for young and first-time offenders, who are yet to develop a ‘criminal lifestyle.’ Fines, suspended sentences, and sentences on the lower end of the scale are the norm unless the crime is very serious. (See for example this text in Swedish about how the brain only fully matures at 25 and how young people experience punishments more severely.)
Swedish law recognises three different age brackets for offenders: 15 to 18, 18 to 21, and over 21 (adult). The punishments for young adults were harshened in Jan 2022 for some severe crimes (mostly to counter gang violence), but YR is set in the autumn of 2020 and spring of 2021. With that in mind, let’s review the situation that should apply in the show.
Firstly, the now-outdated law and practice include something known as ungdomsrabatt (juvenile discount). Any sentence given to an 18-year-old is normally reduced to 50% of an adult’s sentence, and a sentence given to a 16-year-old is reduced further so they get about 20-25% of an adult’s sentence. This can either mean a reduced version of the same sentence, or an alternative, more lenient sentence. Punishment can also be waived entirely for juveniles sentenced to minimal fines for minor offences (e.g. minor narcotics offences).
Secondly, there are some punishments specifically designed for young offenders. Ungdomstjänst (youth community service) and ungdomsvård (youth/juvenile care) mostly apply to those under 18 but can also apply to those under 21 where appropriate. The latter is for those in need of social service intervention; it’s an open arrangement where the juvenile continues living at home. Sluten ungdomsvård (institutional youth care) only comes into play in very serious cases. It’s the primary punishment for minors who would otherwise face imprisonment and, under the old law, also for those under 21, unless there are very heavy grounds for prison time.
There is also something called ungdomsövervakning (youth supervision); basically youth care with more restrictions. However, it was only introduced in Jan 2021, which means it cannot be applied to crimes committed earlier (for example in YR S1).
As mentioned, juveniles can also be sentenced to reduced versions of the same punishments as adults. For young adults, that most likely means a suspended sentence and/or community service and/or fines. These fines are often dagsböter (day-fines), which can range from 50 to 1000 kronor based on the defendant’s income, wealth, and debts for example. The minimum number is 30 fines, the maximum is 150, or 200 for several crimes. There can also be some other financial consequences, e.g. a 1000-krona payment to the Crime Victim Fund or compensation for the victim (these are much lower sums than in the US, for example).
Here’s a made-up example from Domarbloggen: three people aged 16, 18 and 22 beat someone up together. The 22-yo gets 4 months’ imprisonment, which means the 18-yo should get 2 months. Instead, she gets a suspended sentence and 75 hours of community service. The 16-yo should get 1 month, but that is commuted to 50 hours of youth community service. Social services are (and must be) involved for the 16 and 18-yo but find that they are not in need of any services.
Thirdly, juveniles are processed differently from adults. If someone younger than 21 is suspected of a crime, the police investigation that starts when the crime comes to light must be conducted without delay. For those under 18, there’s a time limit of 6 weeks from the initial police report to the decision to prosecute. In many cases, the prosecutor can simply decide not to bring charges and hand the matter over to social services instead. (See for example this Q&A document on the old law, in English.) 
Young offenders are also often eligible for förundersökningsbegränsning (limitation of preliminary investigation) and åtalsunderlåtelse (no-prosecution deal). In the former, the police and prosecutor decide not to investigate the crime, and in the latter, the suspect confesses their guilt to avoid being charged or tried for that particular crime. There are specific circumstances in which these can come into play - for example, when there are several crimes being investigated/charged and the crime in question would not affect the sentencing, or the sentence would be minor anyway. Here’s more info on the reasoning in Swedish, but it’s basically done to save resources for other crimes. The sentence for all the crimes committed is determined as a whole; it does not necessarily match the sum total of all the individual sentences. Accepting a deal means the crime will still go on the person’s criminal record.
If sufficient evidence is found and the matter does go to trial, the court can decide to hold it behind closed doors if the parties are young and/or to protect them from negative publicity. The judge must also be specialised in juvenile cases if the defendant is under 18.
Trials in this corner of the world are usually rather boring compared to what you see on TV. There’s no jury or heated cross-examination. The facts are presented, the injured party, defendant, and witnesses are heard, and the court considers the case. (Here’s a detailed description and even a 24-minute film in Swedish.) 
The bar for detaining young offenders before and after the trial is higher than for adults, but it can happen if they are considered dangerous or there’s a risk of them destroying evidence/influencing the witnesses (for minors, the social services usually watches over them instead). There is no bail system.
Oh, and if someone is sentenced to prison after all, they are not necessarily taken away directly after the trial. Serving the sentence may be postponed until the period of appeal runs out (often 3 months after the sentence enters into force, according to the Prison and Probation Service).
So, now that we know the framework, let’s take a look at the crimes that could come into light in YR S3! Not just those committed by August, but also those committed by Simon and Wilhelm.
Part 2: The crimes committed by the mains in YR
All excerpts quoted are from an English translation of the Swedish Criminal Code. I will include some of my own interpretations in the context of the show - but while reading those, please keep in mind that I’m just a layperson and could well be completely mistaken!
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Kränkande fotografering (intrusive photography): August
A person who unlawfully, by means of a technical device, covertly records an image of a person who is indoors in a home, or in a toilet, dressing room or other similar space, is guilty of intrusive photography (Swedish Criminal Code, Chapter 4, Section 6a)
Scale of punishment for adults: fines or prison up to 2 years.
I don’t think this should be very hard to prove now that Wille has admitted to being on the video. August could of course claim it was someone else using his phone, but I think it should definitely be someone other than Alexander, who had already been caught with the drugs.
Olaga integritetsintrång (unlawful breach of privacy): August
A person who intrudes into the private life of another person by disseminating: 1. an image of or other information about a person’s sexual life; (...) 4. an image of a person in a very vulnerable situation; or 5. an image of a person’s wholly or partially naked body is, if the dissemination is liable to result in serious damage to the person whom the image or information concerns, guilty of unlawful breach of privacy (Swedish Criminal Code, Chapter 4, Section 6c)
Scale of punishment for adults: fines or prison up to 2 years for normal severity, prison from 6 months to 4 years for gross offences.
This is the revenge porn clause. In reality, sadly few cases lead to a conviction; for example in 2021, only 27 out of 1876 cases. The perpetrator can always claim their device/account was hacked, for example, and it’s hard to disprove that. We’ll see if Sara’s testimony and August having admitted his guilt to Wilhelm are enough.
Förtal (defamation): August
A person who identifies someone as being a criminal or as having a reprehensible way of life, or otherwise provides information liable to expose that person to the contempt of others is guilty of defamation (Swedish Criminal Code, Chapter 5, Section 1)
Scale of punishment for adults: fines for normal severity, fines or prison up to 2 years for gross offences.
Note that defamation does not have to be untrue in Sweden! It’s the ‘exposing that person to contempt’ that matters. However, if the defendant can show that the information was true and they were a) obliged to make this kind of statement or b) it was “otherwise justifiable to provide information about the matter”, they are not held responsible. August’s lawyer would probably argue that spreading the video of Wille was a matter of national importance.
A note on aggravating or special circumstances:
Both unlawful invasion of privacy and defamation can be considered gross if the information or image or the method of dissemination was liable to result in serious damage. This bumps up the potential consequences.
Normally, charges can only be brought for the above crimes by the injured party. However, the prosecutor could also choose to bring charges on their own in cases where public interest calls for it. The same goes for defamation if the injured party is under 18 or reports the crime in connection with another investigation, and public interest calls for prosecution. In this case, it doesn’t matter if the injured party wants the case to be pursued or not. So in my view, any potential resolution where Simon and/or Wille decide not to pursue these crimes should be written very carefully to exclude public prosecution.
There’s also another interesting angle that I haven’t seen thrown around much. It was first brought to my attention by a friend on ao3, and I can’t believe it’s still a thing in 21st century Sweden, but it is.
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Högmålsbrott (treasonable offences): August
A person who commits an offence referred to in Chapters 3–5 that involves abuse of the King or another member of the Royal House, or of a person discharging the duties of the Head of State as regent, may be sentenced to imprisonment for at most four years if the offence can otherwise result in imprisonment for at most six months, and for at most six years if the offence can otherwise result in imprisonment for more than six months but at most four years. (Swedish Criminal Code, Chapter 18, Section 2)
Yes, really. Wille being one of the injured parties could complicate things for August when it comes to the above crimes, because they belong to chapters 4 & 5. He’s not actually going to get six years in prison for gross defamation, that’s just the maximum for adults, but it’s an interesting angle and a potential aggravating factor.
Next up, the elephant in the room.
CP: August
I don’t think I need to describe what this means; you can look it up in Chapter 16, Sections 10a and 10b. I’m not going to write it out so this post doesn’t get flagged.
Scale of punishment for adults: fines or prison up to 6 months for minor offences. Prison up to 2 years for normal severity.
Rickard did say that this could land August in prison, but I am highly sceptical. For comparison, consider this case, where an 18-yo who had 540 images in his possession, 98 of those particularly graphic, was only sentenced to 60 hours of youth community service, despite having disseminated some material on social media on two occasions. Or this one, where an 18-yo who was in possession of a video sent to him via SnapChat for a few months, was sentenced to 45 hours of the same - although he was 17 at the time of the crime.
August was 18, but on the other hand, the video he made and disseminated was short, not very graphic, and meant to defame the people in it rather than arouse those who view it. By law, the age and developmental gap between the victim(s) and perpetrator must also be taken into consideration, and as we know, it’s only two years. I’m inclined to think August is only looking at a minor offence - if charges are even brought at all.
So, the fandom should probably prepare for a more lenient sentence than many are hoping for! Ironically enough, the opposite is true for the next crime, which also applies to Simon and, to a lesser degree, Wille.
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Narkotikabrott (narcotics offence): August, Simon, Wilhelm
Any person who unlawfully 1. transfers narcotics, 2. manufactures narcotics intended for misuse, 3. acquires narcotics for the purpose of transfer, 4. procures, processes, packages, transports, keeps or in some other similar way handles narcotics which are not intended for personal use, 5. offers narcotics for sale, keeps or conveys payment for narcotics, mediates contacts between seller and purchaser or takes any other such measure, if the procedure is designed to promote narcotics traffic, or 6. possesses, uses or otherwise handles narcotics shall, if he has acted wilfully, be sentenced for a narcotic drug offence (Penal Law on Narcotics, Section 1)
Scale of punishment for adults: prison up to 3 years for normal severity. Fines or prison up to 6 months for minor offences.
Swedish law is strict on narcotics crimes. Both Simon and August are guilty of several of the above, while Wille is only guilty of use. Wille’s offence would be considered minor, and the punishment might even be waived. However, I think it’s quite likely Simon and August might be looking at normal severity, and Rickard would probably advise August against bringing it up just to spite Simon.
If August went against that advice or the matter came out another way, he would probably get a harsher sentence than Simon on account of his age - although he could provide mitigating circumstances for the selling by saying that Simon coerced him...
In any case, Simon wouldn’t get off with a slap on the wrist either. He sold drugs on two separate occasions - ADHD drugs (which are amphetamine derivatives) and possibly also strong painkillers. Micke’s back pain was specifically mentioned in S1, we saw Simon steal Tramadol (which is an opioid) when he first got pills for August, and there was clearly more in that bag than just the ADHD meds. Amphetamine derivatives and opioids are specifically classified as narcotic drugs due to their potential for misuse, even if the drugs in question (Tramadol and lisdexamfetamine) aren’t as bad as some others.
Furthermore, Simon also committed:
Stöld (theft): Simon
Pretty self-explanatory. Chapter 8, Section 1 of the Criminal Code.
Scale of punishment for adults: fines or prison up to 6 months for minor offences, prison up to 2 years for normal severity, prison from 6 months to 6 years for gross offences.
It’s hard to say what the severity would be. On the one hand, it was just a few boxes and bottles of pills, and the value of the stolen goods should generally be over 1000 kronor to even be considered normal severity (case from 2009). On the other hand, committing theft as part of “criminal activities conducted systematically” is an aggravating circumstance. But I think the prosecutor would be lenient with a 16-yo like Simon and just focus on the narcotics crime (åtalsunderlåtelse for the theft).
Let’s proceed to the last crime, which is something I haven’t really seen a lot of people mention.
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Olaga hot (unlawful threat): Wilhelm
A person who threatens another person with a criminal act in a manner that is liable to occasion serious fear in the person threatened for the safety of their own or someone else’s person, property, liberty or peace is guilty of making an unlawful threat (Swedish Criminal Code, Chapter 4, Section 5)
Scale of punishment for adults: prison from 9 months to 4 years for gross offences. Fines or prison up to 1 year for normal severity.
It’s highly unlikely that Wille’s shotgun waving would come out unless someone accidentally let it slip when questioned about the other offences. So the risk is slim, but I think it still deserves to be included, because an unlawful threat usually becomes a gross offence when a weapon is used. It’s also a publically prosecutable offence, which means August wouldn’t have the power to drop the charges. Note that the ‘treasonable offences’ clause doesn’t apply, because August has not officially been appointed as next in line by Parliament.
Like I said, I don’t think there’s any reason for August to sour his relationship with the Crown by dropping Wilhelm in it. I just wanted to include the threat to be thorough and show how much of a mess this could theoretically become.
Phew, that’s all of them! Thank you so much for reading all this way!
I guess the main point I wanted to make with this marathon post was that I really, really hope the criminal justice side is handled realistically in S3 now that a police investigation probably can’t be avoided. We shouldn’t expect anyone to be locked up with the key thrown away, due to the young age of everyone involved and the leniency built into the system. Also, the severest consequences could well come from the crimes that don’t sound as serious on the surface, such as the drug stuff - and Wille being one of the injured parties. (Or the potentially gross unlawful threat, but I doubt that’s going to come out.)
I’m intrigued to see what Lisa and co have in store for us, because they have a very real chance to highlight some interesting questions here.
Which (if any) of the potential crimes will August, who can liquidate enough money to pay for a great legal team, actually get punished for? Will he get off with fines and maybe some youth community service? Will the Alexander defence actually work when it really shouldn’t? Will social services get involved and maybe make August get some help for his issues? How will his social standing be affected when people learn it was him behind the video? Will the consequences finally teach him some accountability (which he definitely hasn’t learned growing up; see my analysis post about his upbringing and background)?
How about Simon? Can he avoid getting harshly punished for his dealing? How will social services treat him and his family if they get involved? Will his future and education be affected? Will he feel victimised again when the video matter is investigated (which could involve more publicity due to Wille’s involvement)? Could Micke try to claim he forced Simon to carry the drugs and sell them, to provide mitigating circumstances (and would Simon let his estranged dad risk imprisonment for him)?
And finally, is it fair that Wille being one of the injured parties could make the crimes more severe and extract “more justice”? Even though Simon was the one who couldn’t just deny being on the video to escape the negative consequences?
We shall see.
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my-taste-in-music · 2 years
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There were two types of reactions to this week’s episode
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God, I miss this trio.
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strunmah-mah · 2 years
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[image description: It’s the inside of a monastery. There’s two lanterns lighting everything. Jason Todd, Cheshire, Onyx, and Sensei all sit in a circle meditating. In the background Talia al Ghul watches them while holding her baby, Damian /end descrition]
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[image description: It is an indoor facility on Apokolips. From left to right stand Granny Goodness, Mary Marvel, Kara Zor-El and Big Barda /end descrition]
Next season are we getting both of these squads? ‘Cause if we are, that’s gonna be redemption arcs galore.
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skywalkervahnya · 2 years
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I think Tim, Cassie, and Bart watched old Wendy eps together after Conner died, and after Bart died Tim and Cassie would try to watch them together but they just couldn’t do it anymore :/
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rhaellatully · 2 years
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About this last episode of the season, I have to say I am super happy for Icicle Junior! He got invited to the wedding and every thing! That’s so crash
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horsechestnut · 2 years
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If it’s only been five years, and Dick must have been Robin for at least a couple more years after the finale, it seems a bit rude that season 2 Robin is Tim instead of Jason. 
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silverysnake · 10 months
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thanks for the tag @daency :)
My 9 favourite shows:
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These are in no particular order but if I had to name my top three it would be Moon Knight, Good Omens and Forever simply for the insane amount of times I‘ve watched each of them (at least four times)
Moon Knight: just the superior mcu show like ever and Moon Knight is such a great character in general I‘m incredibly obsessed (let‘s not talk about my two (2) moon knight cosplays)
Good Omens: do I even need to explain this one?! I don‘t even know how many times I‘ve read the book, but definitely more than I‘ve watched the series
Forever: this show is so underrated and it‘s been nearly ten years and I‘m still mad that it never got more than one season
Avatar:The Last Airbender: this whole show is just a masterpiece
Supernatural: Definitely watched it earlier than I should have and traumatised me for life but it‘s still great (let‘s not talk about the later seasons tho)
Legends of Tomorrow: I just love this bunch of time traveling idiots who just keep messing everything up even more instead of actually fixing things
Young Justice: Can you tell by now that I like superhero shows? Nah just kidding, I just really like this combination of characters and like, dc is actually pretty good at animated shows/movies
Raganrok (the norwegian show on netflix): Norse mythology but translated into a modern day setting?! hell yeah
Umbrella Academy: Uh, superheroes?! I‘m just obsessed with Klaus and with how different this is from any other superhero media (i mean it‘s based on comics by gerard way what do we expect?!)
Tagging: @shadow-of-a-cloud and @neverland-in-space (no pressure of course) and whoever else wants to do this i have no idea who was tagged already :)
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abbigaildraws · 2 years
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I’ve been watching Young Justice ever since the new season came out, and honestly, it has been incredibly disappointing. The ridiculous amount of subplots have led to Kaldur’ahm, Zatanna and Rocket to all be sidelined magnificently in their own arcs. The pacing of the show, the unbelievable amount of unnecessary side characters and relationships, like the Foragers—cute, but completely unnecessary. I love the New Genesisians and the Green Lanterns, and as a GLTAS fan, I was amazed by Razer’s return! But at the cost of one of the founding members of the team having a few mere minutes in her own arc? I don’t think it’s worth it. Young Justice is trying to do so much at once with so little time, and while I love the universe expanding, it feels extremely overwhelming and, frankly, not well executed. This season is far too much, and yet, far too little at the same time, and it’s incredibly disappointing.
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scattered-winter · 2 years
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I used to be really into young justice but now it's just kinda
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lylethewaterguy · 2 years
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just uploaded a full 32 min of YJ crack
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ggothamite · 2 years
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everyday i wake up and miss the yj wally west
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squijim · 2 years
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right so we've all noticed the themes of the titles in every arc and how they correspond to the main character of the arc:
artemis — allusions to popular literary works, bc she's a comp. lit professor and classic literature is part of her relationship with jade
zatanna — every title is backwards, bc of how zatanna's magic works
kaldur — nautical terminology, for obvious reasons
raquel — Phrases With Exclamation Points At the End!, as a subtle nod to the original creator of the New Gods in the comics (according to the YJ wiki apparently)
but could someone explain to me what the connection between m'gann/conner and their arc titles are? because the titles are no different than what they'd be for any other season, and i don't know if that's an intentional comparison or if I'm missing something.
i'm thinking that dick's episode titles will be more of his unwords, since that's distinctly his trait. if his episodes will be the "RE ZO(D)" in "INVITATION TO KNEEL BEFORE ZOD", then i wonder what those unwords could end up being?
(i wonder what wally's title trait will end up being too 🤡)
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lunalovegoodisgay · 2 years
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The funniest part of the s2 time skip, and in all honesty one of the only parts of this season I’m actually enjoying, is that weird sense of pride that shows up whenever one of the original six shows up. Idk how to explain it properly but the joy I felt watching Kaldur all grown up and committing war crimes was like a parent watching their child learn to walk
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evilminji · 2 months
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You know what's my JAM?
Extremes being treated as the Serious Dangers they ARE, even when they aren't "oooh its a spooky Grey morality and BADness!" Extreme.
Like? No, people. ALL of them are bad. They are ALL face melting dangerous. The void may crush your soul, but look upon the Face Of GOD? Not gonna be having a fun time! Doesn't MATTER if he's a cool dude! Face melting!
We are creatures of BALANCE. Tiny, fragile, little motes of dust. That can only exsist in the careful, blended, dances of territories and powers that be. We squishy.
Ghosts? Less squishy.
Poor impulse control, too. Especially ones with Fenton genetics. ABSOLUTELY ones with Fenton genetics and a trauma based aversion to therapy. That one? Pretty hardy. Made pretty tough, what with being Fates third favorite chew toy. But? Still gets the Sads, you know? The slightly longer then just seasonal depression.
Would medicine and some therapy help? Oh like a dream!
If medicine WORKED on his Ectoplasmicly contaminated ass. And he TRUSTED therapists.
But... surely, Danny thinks, as he sits grossly in his Depression sweatpants and eats suspect pizza on the floor of his moldering shoebox of an apartment, there must be SOME way to address his Depression? He should... he should DO something about it. Take a break maybe. Look up some ghost doctors or something.
.....
Oooooooooor..... >.>
He could break out that OMENIOUS af, bound in suspect leather, Big Book Of Forbidden Knowledge(TM) that he got from Pariah's.... what, fourth? Fifth? Library? Fuck that Lair is huge. He's STILL cleaning it out and it's been over half a decade. He swears it spawns more floors just to mock him. Bastard. Don't know HOW a building can be a Bastard, but it sure found A WAY.
Anyway!
Book it is! *horrifying Eldritch light as he opens it* huh. Neat. Comes with its own visual effects. *another bite of suspect pizza* Funky.
And so! Danny, the depressed King Of The Zone... fucks of to go cheer himself up in the Fields Of Bliss(TM), an area of Absolute Bliss. Which! Sounds GREAT in theory, now don't it? Lovely even.
Remember that little comment about extremes?
You can ENTER those fields. But no one leaves. No one CAN. The deeper you go? The more doomed you become. Less will to do anything at all. Eat, talk, move. So much as think. Like ALL extreme "Goods", it sounds lovely, but the reality is no gentle little thing.
It's a glue trap.
But how could Danny have known? Honestly, who would have TAUGHT him? Textbooks can only go so far, after all. And placing blame will not rescue the young monarch.
I imagine it's one of his helpers that pieces together what's happened. Come for further clarification on WHERE exactly he wants certain statues moved. Only? Your Majesty? Your Majesty...? Where ever could he BE? Oh? He's left out some of his books. Well, I'll just assist by putting them away for-.....
Oh.
OH ANCIENTS, NO.
But! What can the poor man DO? Ghosts are Beings of Will, Emotion, and Obsession. Were it some sort of Holy Blade or Sentient Tree, you know, something INDIVIDUAL with a will they could FIGHT? Oh no problem. But an area of effect? Especially an EMOTIONAL area of effect!? Ooooooh, this is bad. The Zone can't AFFORD to lose ANOTHER King!
We JUST GOT THIS ONE!!!
Wait. He's heard that there's an organization for this! That loudly cursing fellow who got violently thrown back into the Zone. "Ruined his fun" and all that! Perfect! He'll just hire THEM!
Smashcut? To a nice, peaceful, everybody's screaming Justice League Meeting. John's cursing life, extremely hungover. Zatana still has three cracked ribs. Wonder Woman is enjoying the new sword she... liberated... mid battle. Truely stunning craftsmanship. When?
Knock Knock!
Heads swivel. There... is a glowing green... accountant? Dandy? Dandy accountant. With an equally radioactive day glow green Actual Pirate's Chest Of Treasures, floating next to him. In the void of space; Just beyond the glass. What, the, fuuuuuu-
He seems to be under the impression they are some sort of Heroic mercenaries. And has come to request the retrieve-
"NNNNNOPE! Pariah can SHOVE it!" Snarls a suddenly very awake John Constantine, sitting up straight for the first time in hours. The rest of Dark grimly nod in agreement. Let the fucker rot. It's a kinder fate then he deserves.
No, no, NO! King PHANTOM! Pariah's SUCCESSOR by right of combat! They are not, and were never, allied in any way!
Well, all right then. Road trip to save a young idiot then.
@the-witchhunter @hdgnj @hypewinter @lolottes @mutable-manifestation @nerdpoe
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