Emily VanCamp teases the mystery of Sharon Carter on The Falcon and the Winter Soldier
Warning: Spoilers from The Falcon and the Winter Soldier season 1, episode 3 are discussed in this article.
There's more to Sharon Carter than meets the eye. A lot more.
Emily VanCamp returned to her Captain America movie role in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier's third episode, which revealed the former S.H.I.E.L.D. agent has been living under the radar in Madripoor after she was forced to go on the run from the U.S. government in Civil War for illegally aiding Steve Rogers (Chris Evans), Sam Wilson (Anthony Mackie), and Bucky Barnes (Sebastian Stan).
She's since made a life for herself in this neon-soaked city filled with all manner of criminals, which formed her new outlook. As VanCamp tells EW, she's no longer the "young and idealistic" agent who "committed her whole life to the cause and the government." She now believes "the whole superhero thing is a joke." But that may not be all she believes.
After first saving Sam, Bucky, and Helmut Zemo (Daniel Brühl) from getting their heads blown off and then later assisting in their search for Dr. Nagel, who's been secretly replicating the super-soldier serum, Sharon gets picked up in a car — a fairly nice-looking one at that. She tells her bodyguard, "We've got a big problem," seemingly referring to Zemo shooting and killing Dr. Nagel. Is Sharon secretly working for the elusive Power Broker, the mysterious antagonist fueling the Flag-Smashers' mission? Is she the Power Broker?
"We could interpret that in so many different ways," VanCamp says. "There's still three episodes left so hopefully those questions will be answered. There's still lots of characters to come in and out. The problem could be many things."
VanCamp spoke with EW after the premiere of episode 3 to talk about Sharon's new life in Madripoor, crafting her character's unique combat style with the stunt choreographers, and Brühl's unique dance moves.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: This feels like a very different version of Sharon Carter. Did this feel like it was a completely different character for you in some ways?
EMILY VANCAMP: In some ways, yeah it is, but I think that was necessary. To bring her back as the same person she was in the films wouldn't make any sense. When they told me what they had in mind for Sharon, I was delighted that it was something very different and we were actually going to address where she's been, what she's been up to, how she's been surviving, and just answer some of those questions. We don't answer all of them but some of them, for sure.
Was there anything specific that helped orient you around who Sharon is now?
She says it best in episode 3 that the superhero thing is a joke. That would never be something that Sharon would say when she was young and idealistic and this agent [who] committed her whole life to the cause and the government. She's from this bloodline of agents, so for her to say that is very indicative of where she's at mentally. She's still out there kicking butt and doing her thing. It's just her whole perspective and priorities have shifted because they've had to. She's been on the run and trying to survive in this lawless land for this crazy amount of time. It's understandable the resentment, anger, and frustration that she has when you meet up with her in Madripoor.
Did the changes to Sharon's character affect your approach to her?
Absolutely. I think it changed everything from the way she walks to the way she fights to the way she communicates. She's all grown up and has a chip on her shoulder. She takes all that quite seriously, everything that happened to her. at this point in time, it's about getting that pardon that she's been wanting this whole time. It was great to talk to [director] Kari [Skogland] a lot of about that and just try to implement that in everything that we did.
It really seems like the government did her dirty.
They did her dirty. It's true. I wouldn't have said it, but since you did. Yeah, the government left her behind. She's such a loyal agent. Even though she's thriving in this environment, it's still not where she would want to be, and not how you treat a loyal agent. She's become anti-establishment in that sense and stopped believing in all of the things she put her faith in.
When I think of Sharon Carter, I can't help but think of Peggy and all the morals and ethics she instilled in Sharon. Where Sharon is at this point, has she left a lot of that behind?
I think it doesn't just go away, but I think she's cynical and jaded enough that a lot of that has been very repressed within her. I think she's left a lot of that behind. She's probably had to make some very difficult decisions and do some things she didn't want to do. You see her in that ship yard! There's no holding back. Unfortunately, the sad thing in Sharon's story is that idealistic young girl in many ways is gone.
At the end of episode 3, Sharon gets in a car. She's telling her bodyguard, "We've got a bigger problem." What are we to make of this?
I don't want to say what, but obviously there are so many things. We could interpret that in so many different ways. There's still three episodes left so hopefully those questions will be answered. There's still lots of characters to come in and out. The problem could be many things.
Here's something you can hopefully talk about: Your big fight sequence. You mentioned earlier that this was your first time getting to develop Sharon's unique combat style with choreographers. Now that we know a lot more about Sharon, are there specific elements from her backstory that was most informative in the way that she fights?
It was a very big discussion. What does Sharon's fight style look like in this world of Madripoor? Because we had to be sure to remind everyone that she has this technical background. She was a trained agent. In the comic books, that's her specialty. We struggled a little bit for a while with what weapons she's using. That shipyard scene was very unique. Does she come armed? What is that? We ultimately landed on she's using whatever she can find. That made it a little bit more brutal and gritty and interesting looking. It definitely made for some interesting fight sequences to learn. The training was very rigorous. She doesn't have any superpowers, so it really is down to the choreography. The stunt team is ridiculously amazing and helpful, and they spent all the time in the world with me. Every bit of free time I had I was there with them, and they were so gracious with their time. We just wanted to make it look as real and raw as possible, and the only way to do that was put the time in.
Well, I think you succeeded.
Definitely did not come out totally unscathed. So, it was worth it. That makes me happy to hear. There were a lot of cuts and bruises and scrapes, but that's part of the fun.
I just spoke with Daniel earlier and he mentioned there's a longer version out there of him just fist-pumping in the club. What do you remember from that day on set?
That day was insane. I think we had, for that whole dance sequence in that club, it was a very, very insanely quick, fast-paced day. But, oddly, they got a lot of great shots from my recollection of the boys dancing individually. Whoever has that footage should hold onto it closely. I remember there was a lot of dancing here. It was so funny and the boys are so hilarious. And Daniel's the best. I just love him.
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Reacting to Captain America: Civil War (Part 3 of 3)
He Reminds Me of a Chicken Pox. If I’m In Trouble PLEASE Do Not Call Him.
The Setup: Here’s Part 1 of Marchae and Clint’s Civil War reaction, and here’s Part 2.
Notes from Kris and Miri in italics.
MARCHAE: Ok can I tell you what I liked
CLINT: Sure I liked everything
MARCHAE: NO NO NO first tell me what you liked
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I would not go that far... but I did LOVE Madam Hot Sauce!! She is a really strong female character (physically) and that makes me happy...
CLINT: It was a good continuation of the cap story
Black panther
Spidey
Obviously, cap
Hawkeye
Yes Madame hot sauce
MARCHAE: Hawkeye is a male Katniss Everdeen
He is not on my list... our lists do not match except for Madam Hot Sauce
CLINT: Visions density shifting
His name is Clint
MARCHAE: SPIDEY is so far not on my list he isn't even on my non existent kid's kid's kid's list
CLINT: [Hawkeye] grew up in the circus
MARCHAE: SHIT! SERIOUSLY!!
CLINT: Hurtful
MARCHAE: you want me to get back on the things I DON"T LIKE
But really… A CIRCUS
ok i am going to tell you the things I LIKED
CLINT: That's his comic history. But continue
MARCHAE: it should not be
CLINT: It works
KRIS: It does!
I don’t think it’s supposed to be Clint Barton’s backstory in the movies, though. For whatever it’s worth, the Ultimates version of Clint (whom movie-Clint was more directly inspired by, at least early on) was an Olympic archer who became a special ops soldier. We do know that movie-Clint was with SHIELD long before Natasha, and that when he was assigned to kill her (she was with the KGB at the time), he turned her instead.
MARCHAE: I really do like the core of the story like when you take out all the things I didn't like about it the root message of friends til the end is a good one
CLINT: And him and hot sauce are bffs
K: The movie does shortchange this. And I would’ve liked to see even more work with Steve and Natasha’s friendship.
MARCHAE: also...why. I also really liked the action scenes
CLINT: So Friends makes it worse
MARCHAE: No!
in fact my note was "I think if they don't talk and it was just action with no words ALWAYS... I could get all the way down" that's kind of a backhanded compliment but i REALLY REALLY REALLY like action movies a lot
K: I don’t think I knew this
MIRI: I definitely did not
CLINT: So less story more action
MARCHAE: so it is a testament to the fact that they were some amazing action scenes.
CLINT: So you'd like a Michael Bay avengers
MARCHAE: We can talk about my issues with story later (and it was mostly just wonky time things)
YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
K: I’m learning so much about Marchae
CLINT: No
MARCHAE: I mean I do love to see the people fight and the things get blown up
CLINT: Watch Man of steel you'll see why that's bad
MARCHAE: guess I will and I bet it will be GOOD!
CLINT: No
MARCHAE: well it's also superman...
ok things I like Mr. Madam Hot Sauce (I know she's your crush)
CLINT: #notmysuperman
MARCHAE: LOL
CLINT: Scarjo is the best
MARCHAE: I did like the Black Panther Reveal ( I think by this point in my notes I got their names somewhat together because they are all written-- I am going to take pictures of my notes and put them in the post) I loved the spotty accent the Olsen Sister
CLINT: She was regionally vague
MARCHAE: it was regionally hilarious because it was only on words that had weird 'R' sounds
LOL. it provided comedic relief
I actually really liked the toddler robot he may have been my favorite
CLINT: I don't know if it was funny but ok
MARCHAE: it was
CLINT: Really him
K: Now I legitimately think Marchae should go back and watch Avengers: Age of Ultron for Vision stuff.
MARCHAE: YUP and Madam Hot Sauce... I may be her if I ever decide to celebrate Halloween
K now hear me cause this is going to be mean
CLINT: Comic con
Cos play
MARCHAE: but I really really liked the individual's subplot story lines... they were well defined but the total stories as a collective not so much so if each character had a break out session of sorts i could do it...
AND I WOULD HAVE COS PLAYED THIS YEAR BUT YOU STOOD ME UP!!!
CLINT: That's what the whole movie was
MARCHAE: no...
CLINT: Unrelated (re:Cosplay)
MARCHAE: (no that last bit is truth)
ok The fight scene with Bucky was also great and the tag team girl fight scene was also pretty amazing
CLINT: Which Bucky fight the one on the stairs or when he was cray. Or both
MARCHAE: Both actually were really good
I also like that it is a woman who calls Iron Man on his crap and tells him to watch his back
CLINT: The stairs is my fav next to the one at the end
The kids mom
MARCHAE: I also really did forget how awesome iron mans suit was and I appreciated Stan Lee's cameo
those were all the things I liked
CLINT: It it's cool but he has no powers
MARCHAE: who? Iron Man
CLINT: Yep
MARCHAE: Are you kidding me right now?
LIKE ONLY TWO OF THEM DO ANYWAY!!!!
MIRI: Spiderman has powers. Just saying
CLINT: Iron Man has no powers he's just rich and smart
MARCHAE: like none of them have powers is my point I think that this wasn't a bad movie I just would rather more put together polished heroes
CLINT: Vision, Wanda, cap and Spidey
MARCHAE: if you say that things name one more time i swear Ok can we please talk about spider man just for a moment and I will try to be rational
CLINT: They didn't need back story at this point We're like 12 movies in
MARCHAE: (also thats not a lot of people to depend on--but we are rehashing earlier conversation if we keep revising that point)
CLINT: Spidey was awesome
MARCHAE: Here is my thing I don't like Spider Man ... not one bit nope
CLINT: Why
MARCHAE: in fact... my actual honest to god note says... "He reminds me of a chicken pox.
K: I’m... not sure what this means?
he is always jokes on jokes on jokes. If I'm in trouble PLEASE do not call him. Is this THE BEST that Tony can do! He has the ENTIRE MARVEL UNIVERSE AT HIS DISPOSAL”
I've never liked spiderman . he is kind of whiney and it is really annoying when you're depending on people to save your life. I think from that point forward the movie kind of turns into a farce
CLINT: He is a kid and it's how he deals with the stress
Wow
MARCHAE: He needs to grow the heck up
See this is what I mean
WHY
CLINT: He's in high school
MARCHAE: and the reason it turns into a farce
is because then ANT MAN WHO TURNS INTO A GIANT also JOINS US
CLINT: Tony used a child soldier. Let that sink in
MARCHAE: SANK. I mean there is an entire universe and that man was like let me go and get this MAN CHILD who makes JOKES to help out?
CLINT: Which is why you don't register
MARCHAE: and also the fact that Ant Man referred to them as SUPER HEROES. Which is why we need a manual
rule number 1A: STOP MAKING JOKES AINT CRAP FUNNY...PEOPLE ARE DYING
K: Wait, maybe Marchae really will like Zack Snyder’s DC movies
CLINT: Ant Man was cool he had his own movie
MARCHAE: Sweet grief
I did like the ant woman/Madam Hot Sauce Fight!
CLINT: And if you let that get to you too much you're done
She kicked him in the gonads
MARCHAE: I feel like That trio: Ant, Spider and Iron Man act way to casual for me
she did and it was great!
Ant Man was the worst... A giant Tiny Man
CLINT: You need them though so it's not super dark. Giant Man was dope
MARCHAE: *eye roll*
CLINT: I'm at that part now. I'm watching it again
MARCHAE: You're watching it AGAIN! LOL
CLINT: Just cause
MARCHAE: YESS!!!
okay so did you have any specific questions for me? (I mean I have lots for you but I feel like I can easily wikipedia them and spare the interwebs my ignorance)
CLINT: You can ask away, but how did you feel about the reveal at the end with Buck and Tony
MARCHAE: OH I actually really liked that and was shocked!!! that was pretty cool
K: This is interesting. As a longtime MCU fan who saw it coming from the teaser (and I don't think the movie was necessarily trying to hide it), I still thought it worked on a dramatic level, partly since it involved a betrayal from Steve as well, in his lie of omission.
CLINT: All that destruction to break up the crew
MARCHAE: and it nearly worked...
CLINT: It did
MARCHAE: I think I even noted that it was sad that Captain America felt so alone in the world and that they were literally destroying each other... that was kind of sad ...and great character/story development
CLINT: Man out of time
Defend my friend or jump on board with something to keep his new friends. I was shocked I thought he was hoping to use the soldiers.
But nope I'm here to let you know buddy killed your parents
Have fun
Also Tony's phone
MARCHAE: The phone? what did I miss
CLINT: It's just cool
MARCHAE: LOLOL
CLINT: And projects holograms. I'd want it
MARCHAE: They have those out now! (just kidding)
CLINT: I would own it
MARCHAE: K I don't think I have anything else really of note necessarily
CLINT: See the funny thing is at the end they were close to all being friends again but that was part of the plan
Great ending
MARCHAE: OH NO i didn't mean to cut you off
CLINT: Oh it's cool
MARCHAE: Yeah ... but i feel like it will never be the same with them again
CLINT: It won't be and that was the plan
MARCHAE: (not that i know a ton about how it used to be with them I mean I saw avengers 1... but still they seemed to all get along) to turn them against each other and have them all going rogue perfect plan! sounds like gravy to me!
CLINT: Yep in zemos eyes the avengers killed his family
he knew he couldn't beat them so he decided to break them
You can't overlook your friend knowing his homie killed your mom
Then just be cool
MARCHAE: It is a very intricate story that's for sure
CLINT: But well done
MARCHAE: *offers tight smile*
CLINT: Lol
MARCHAE: We all like different movies
CLINT: What would you score it
MARCHAE: I feel like it's a trick question because it's like the score BS and the score AS
CLINT: (I'm lost) wait spider Man
MARCHAE: YUP
CLINT: Oh wow such shade
MARCHAE: So BS it yielded a solid 7.5
AS it went down to probably a 5... I really don't like him and it did get a little silly to me when he arrived on the scene
MIRI: OH MY GOD MARCHAE
CLINT: Then after
MARCHAE: also I need to shout out Marisa Tomei.
K: This did kind of make me want to watch Only You, an early-90s rom-com Tomei and Downey star in. But having seen the trailer, I’m not sure Downey’s character will have aged well.
After what
CLINT: After no more Spidey
MARCHAE: Oh it'd go back up to a 7.5
CLINT: 9.5
MARCHAE: on that note LOL
CLINT: Lol
MARCHAE: well hey it's been a freaking DELIGHT to do this with you!!! I had fun watching and talking to you about Captain America Civil War
CLINT: 11ty. Hundred! It was a good time
MARCHAE: 11ty hundred is not a movie rating LOL
CLINT: For this one it is
MARCHAE: I adore you
Let's try and see LOGAN!
CLINT: I say bvs or we can do both
MARCHAE: what is BVS? bible vacation school?
CLINT: Or if you're up for torture will Smith and suicide squad. Batman vs Superman
MIRI: Marchae, don’t watch Suicide Squad. Two bad Will Smith movies in a year might destroy you. He’s good, but the movie is a disaster.
MARCHAE: Lets aim for BVS and Logan! we officially have plans!
Thanks again for doing this brother
CLINT: No prob sister
Thanks very much to Clint for being our first Guest Reactor! We hope he has time to join us again further down the line. I mean hopefully it won’t come down to the end of the line. Which is a reference Marchae would understand IF SHE’D WATCHED THE WINTER SOLDIER.
Anyway. No promises, but maybe a Spider-Man: Homecoming reaction is in the cards, though if we want Marchae to watch it we’re going to owe her two or three Reactions to things she chooses. Watch this space. In the meantime, you can follow us on Twitter.
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