Question: With all the rumblings about the TTPD album and what it has to say about Joe, I wanted to know your take on the album? Do you think Taylor is going to put Joe on Blast or is she really putting Lily on blast? I can't see Joe being the cause of evoking so much emotion. I ask since so much of the "Joe" and Taylor story is tied up with Lily. Do you think the shade she is throwing about the hidden/very private relationship is really directed at Lily? Lily may be the only celebrity that I know of that has less of a social media presence than Joe. Your Masterpost is so compelling. I would love to hear your thoughts on the new album and on the spectacle that is tayvis. What are your thoughts on her current over exposure. Why was Lily at the Eras Tour the week before the man child? Taylor's current behavior is making me Question a lot about her as a person. I am trying to see the trees through the forest of over exposure.
I love this ask! Whatever TTPD album will be, I don’t think she’s putting Lily on blast. I think TTPD is the final chapter of the Joe story, whether it’s a real story, a fictional story, or a story with elements of both. It’s just a way to close this chapter of the Taylor Swift story, whether you believe her story is autobiographical or something else.
I think Taylor and Lily are on good terms. Not sure when the good terms started again, but at least through most of 2023. I got some interesting information regarding Lily towards the end of the year. I cannot share. Not because I was told not to, but because I have chosen not to. I’m just going to leave it at that.
Regarding Taylor and Travis, I’m ambivalent. I’m not in the camp they are so in love and so real, nor am I in the camp they are so fake. He’s there for a reason and this relationship is being heavily publicized for a reason. But I don’t know the reason.
I definitely believe Taylor has been with women, will likely be with women in some form in the future, and may even be with a woman now. Whatever Taylor’s real story is, parts will eventually come out as her star fades one day.
Check out this episode of @whatiwillsay ‘s podcast. It’s the start of the Tily timeline and they go through the Tily Nation masterpost!
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Taylor’s feature on The National’s “The Alcott” was released on April 28, 2023.
The Song is About Two Lovers Reconnecting
The Lyrics Were Painted on the Sidewalk in Select Spots in NYC as Part of Promo for the Song
In late May 2023, fans began noticing the lyrics to the song in select spots in NYC. The four known locations are very interesting - outside Taylor’s old Cornelia Street townhouse, Electric Lady Studios (where Taylor has recorded many songs, including several songs on Reputation and Lover), Washington Square Park (a popular park near Cornelia Street), and Katz’s Deli in the East Village.
Are these the places the lovers returned to (metaphorically or physically) trying to relive a moment in time?
Cornelia Street
The Cornelia Street townhouse was a big part of the Tily Autumn of 2016.
Collage credit to @periwinkle-musings
Katz’s Deli
Why Katz’s Deli? It’s one of Lily’s favorite places and only a few blocks from her Avenue B East Village apartment.
“Golden Notebook” and “Golden Thinking”
Matt wrote a vocal and Taylor rewrote the lyrics, according to Aaron Dessner’s interview with Vulture. Matt seemed to imply to Apple Music that he wrote the verses and Taylor wrote the chorus. Either way, both agree Taylor played a big part in the lyrics. Which leads to, who came up with all the “golden” references in the song? It’s certainly interesting considering the “Dress” lyrics, Lily’s wrist tattoo of the word “golden” in Latin, and the golden tattoo both Tily girls wore during the Tily Autumn of 2016 when the “London lover” came into existence.
Coney Island
The other song Taylor did with The National is “Coney Island,” with its references to “Delicate” (where Taylor wore the golden tattoo in the “Making of a Song” video, with its “Dive bar on the East side, where you at?” lyrics (from the same interview Lily mentioned Katz’s Deli above - link), and where Taylor famously spread her legs on the Cadillac Fleetwood in the music video - all Lily connections to me), lyrical reference to the Bowery Hotel (“Were you waiting at our old spot, in the tree line by the gold clock” - also mentioned in Lily’s interview above and where Taylor and Lily were papped leaving in October 2016), and the person who Taylor did not make her centerfold (a model reference).
Credit to @fleur-de-puissance for giving me this tip about The Alcott!
Lily published her Melkadida book (2023) through her own publishing company, Avenue B Publishing.
Avenue B is where Lily’s apartment was in the East Village before and during the Tily years.
I think she sold it but some people believe she still has it. Lily’s apartment on Avenue B, across the street from Tompkins Square Park, is a block from the Lovers of Today and Cabin Down Below (“Dive bar on the East side, where you at?”) bars that Taylor, Lily, and others went to during the infamous Bowery night in October 2016.
The apartment and location must still hold a special spot in Lily’s heart since she named her publishing company Avenue B. This is Lily’s first book and the only thing published by Avenue B.
Someone sent me these from Reddit. I culled a few things that have not been covered, or at least not covered in depth, here. As always, these are just one person’s opinions, but the person did a lot of research.
Pattie’s sister was also married to Mick Fleetwood, Lily’s great uncle on her mother’s side.
I never saw the similarity before now between the Kentish Town End Game music video blue jacket and the Lavender Haze music video’s (released on Lily’s birthday) blue jacket.
On January 25, 2020, two days before Taylor released “The Man“ single (“getting bitches and models” “I’d be just like Leo in Saint Tropez”) on Lily‘s birthday, January 27, 2020, Lily made the first change to the post removing the ❤️ and the “AT” and tagging Taylor.
On June 9, 2022, Lily changed the post again, removing “Happy birthday”:
On November 17, 2023, one week after she was in the VIP tent at the Eras tour in Argentina, Lily changed the post again, untagging Taylor:
I think they are referring to these two posts. Her Instagram has had a lot of activity over the past 2-4 weeks. After Lily’s appearance in Argentina, she unarchived several posts from 2016-2017. Which just happens to be Rep era. No idea why she did it. She re-archived some of them again this week after they were visible for a few days.
i'm over on the hell site and curious, do you know anything about lily d. reloading old insta posts from 2017 a couple days ago to deleted them again today? And something about unarchiving a post about 'sunset strip'?
search for Sabrina vip tent on Twitter and you’ll see more videos of Lily in the tent - it’s literally her lol I’m surprised even you, Tily Nation, is denying it.
Ok, now I’m convinced - it is Lily!
The super long blonde hair is definitely Lily!
Aurora Figeuras just put up a story showing what she currently looks like and it’s not her in the tent with Delfina. It’s definitely Lily!