vethbrenatto
vethbrenatto
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vethbrenatto · 2 hours ago
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ug can’t stop won’t stop drawing wlws
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vethbrenatto · 4 hours ago
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sharing this reply and my response for again my 3 naddpod mutuals. this makes wayyyyy more sense.
okay im not usually picky about d&d mechanics because truly i am here for the narrative and the goofs with all my actual play shows i listen to or watch, but i gotta comment on this one.
in ep 27 of eldermourne, zirk is down with 2 death saves after rolling a natural one, henry is grappled, and it’s moxora’s turn. moxora seemingly holds her turn (not explicitly stated) to talk to henry while henry tries to barter for zirk, but using his deception, henry fails multiple deception checks AND fails to get out of his grapple. fia is far, far away and not really fully aware of the situation- murph allows for bukvar to be used to cast healing word with a successful arcana check even though it’s technically rule bending, which ultimately brings zirk back up.
it just felt kind of… stake-dropping i guess? like the team was just gonna get as many chances as it took to bring zirk back up until it worked. i have no problem with the actual rulebending, using bukvar and casting healing word, but the way moxora held when i feel like it would’ve made full sense with the way of the rolls for her to kill zirk in that moment. just a little :/
i think i’m ultimately probably just a little bit salty about it because i think zirk’s death here could’ve been really narratively impactful. we had just had a hugely zirk-centric episode where he finally stood up to his mother- how tragic would it have been to see stella react to losing her son after they had parted on that note of zirk throwing his top hat to the ground in defiance of her? 
i also think it wouldn’t have been hard to fit a resurrection ritual in there- a chance to bring zirk back (unless… and maybe this is where the real logic for murph’s ruling comes in, eldermourne resurrection doesn’t exist? it’s been a long time since i listened to ep0 and the eldermourne world building so maybe resurrection doesn’t exist or is very difficult in this world) after that hugely narratively impactful death. it kinda just felt like they didn’t want to get sidetracked from the “main quest” with irina and so therefore, zirk couldn’t die, they couldn’t get pulled down a different route, etc etc. 
anyway, i’ll shut up now, just wanted to word vomit all that
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vethbrenatto · 4 hours ago
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A little Gorgug and the most uncomfortably informative adoptive parents in history. Something nice and holistic for the holidays.
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vethbrenatto · 5 hours ago
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Down they go
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vethbrenatto · 6 hours ago
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okay im not usually picky about d&d mechanics because truly i am here for the narrative and the goofs with all my actual play shows i listen to or watch, but i gotta comment on this one.
in ep 27 of eldermourne, zirk is down with 2 death saves after rolling a natural one, henry is grappled, and it’s moxora’s turn. moxora seemingly holds her turn (not explicitly stated) to talk to henry while henry tries to barter for zirk, but using his deception, henry fails multiple deception checks AND fails to get out of his grapple. fia is far, far away and not really fully aware of the situation- murph allows for bukvar to be used to cast healing word with a successful arcana check even though it’s technically rule bending, which ultimately brings zirk back up.
it just felt kind of... stake-dropping i guess? like the team was just gonna get as many chances as it took to bring zirk back up until it worked. i have no problem with the actual rulebending, using bukvar and casting healing word, but the way moxora held when i feel like it would’ve made full sense with the way of the rolls for her to kill zirk in that moment. just a little :/
i think i’m ultimately probably just a little bit salty about it because i think zirk’s death here could’ve been really narratively impactful. we had just had a hugely zirk-centric episode where he finally stood up to his mother- how tragic would it have been to see stella react to losing her son after they had parted on that note of zirk throwing his top hat to the ground in defiance of her? 
i also think it wouldn’t have been hard to fit a resurrection ritual in there- a chance to bring zirk back (unless... and maybe this is where the real logic for murph’s ruling comes in, eldermourne resurrection doesn’t exist? it’s been a long time since i listened to ep0 and the eldermourne world building so maybe resurrection doesn’t exist or is very difficult in this world) after that hugely narratively impactful death. it kinda just felt like they didn’t want to get sidetracked from the “main quest” with irina and so therefore, zirk couldn’t die, they couldn’t get pulled down a different route, etc etc. 
anyway, i’ll shut up now, just wanted to word vomit all that
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vethbrenatto · 7 hours ago
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Fearne is a mood 💚
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vethbrenatto · 7 hours ago
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She is fun scary!
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vethbrenatto · 7 hours ago
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c1e66- follow your dreams kids, sometimes they come true
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vethbrenatto · 8 hours ago
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This may have already been done but here’s the shriek week guys as their respective monster cereals! Inspired by this tweet.
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vethbrenatto · 8 hours ago
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hey i knew there was a lot of marisha hate, esp in c1, tho for a long while i was not getting why people would be so toxic cos while she was naive, it was understandable. but lately i started getting tired of her naivety and,, lack of foresight i suppose? and ik, that's basically the character arc! but at times it really does get a bit too much...
im not sure, maybe the fact that it's live rp somehow makes it hurt more because as a concept, characters with horrible choices are great, luv em, but something just doesn't click for me with keyleth
i feel bad for so viscerally disliking some of her actions, especially with the history of fandom, so i guess what i wanted to ask is, what is your view on some of her worse decisions and is there any advice on shifting my perspective towards her (because i really don't want to feel this way about any of the characters D:)?
I want to preface this with the fact that I'm not sure how much actual advice I have on this, but I did definitely want to answer it because I relate so much. This also got extremely long, so it’s going under the cut.
This is pretty much exactly how I felt watching C1 for the first time. I watched C2 first, and I fell in love with Beau over time and Marisha as a roleplayer. So, I felt very jarred watching C1 and getting so viscerally upset at Keyleth and some of the decisions and choices she made. Especially going into the comments and seeing all the Keyleth/Marisha hate, I felt very uncomfortable feeling those things because I didn't want to be one of the haters that were so clearly visible during the airing of C1. This is mainly to clarify to you that, no, you're not one of those people. I felt the same way watching it the first time, and the fact that you're having those feelings of "Oh, I'm uncomfy because I don't want to be One of the Keyleth Haters," means that you're not one. Truthfully, her decisions can be very frustrating at times.
The reason I'm not sure how good my advice is going to be is because where I am now with Keyleth versus where I started- there's a blur in the middle. Obviously, something changed, because now I very much love Keyleth and respect a lot of her choices, when that's definitely not where I started.
I would say after I saw C1, I did reflect on a lot of Keyleth's choices more than I did while watching it. I also read a good amount of Keyleth meta, and that actually really helped. A lot of people had a much better grasp on her character than I did, and having step-by-step guides on why Kiki was acting the way she was made a lot of her choices more understandable for me. Now, I'm rewatching C1 for the first time and am even finding places where I fundamentally disagreed with Keyleth originally that I've changed my tune and am on her side (this isn't the case for all situations, and more often than not I still don't take her side persay, but on certain things, I'm like... nah, Kiki was right).
I wish I could find some of the Kiki meta that made her more clear in my mind, I don't have any links on hand (if anyone has good Keyleth meta to share, feel free to add to this post).
I also think that Kiki becomes a lot easier to wrap your head around when you get at the root of why she can be frustrating. A lot of the time it's not just the naivete, it's also Keyleth's moral compass. In a world of adventurers, the dial on your moral compass sort of shifts and bad things aren't fundamentally bad anymore because you have to shift expectations in a world where killing and adventure are normalized. Nevertheless, for all characters, morality is still a spectrum. The problem comes in that Keyleth's morality is a lot more present than the rest of the group, and this makes her stick out like a sore thumb. Which isn't to say the rest of the group doesn't have morals, or are all identically moral, Grog is obviously less moral than Vex or Pike. It's just that Keyleth's goodness is an outlier, she's just stretched a bit further in terms of her morality, and she's often not willing to bend on that.
That morality gap leads to what also makes Keyleth a very easy character to get mad at- She sticks up for what she believes in and she's thus, not afraid of inter-party conflict. Inter-party conflict can be jarring to watch, it can also be compelling and enjoyable, but first and foremost, it's often jarring. And Kiki gets in conflicts I would say the most in the party, possibly followed by Percy. This makes it very easy to not take Kiki's side, especially because when she battles, sometimes it's not just Kiki vs. One other party member, it's Kiki vs. Everyone. This makes it extremely easy to take the side of the majority, without fully considering Kiki's reasoning. I'll also say that by human nature, it's inevitable for your brain to often take sides. The truth is, in a lot of the interparty conflicts involving Kiki or otherwise, there is no "correct" side. There are merits on both ends, valid points on either side. But our brain hears both arguments, and wants to make a choice and make things black and white. On my first time around, I almost always sided against Kiki. Considering she ends up in conflict more often than the others, this was easy to bleed into other Kiki interactions, staining my view of her character.
I know this is... a lot of text. But the point that I'm trying to get at is that understanding and broadening your context, really trying to think about her reasons rather than going with what your gut says is right is what I think ultimately made me change my mind about Kiki.
Some specific decisions:
1 - Whether to rest in Whitestone during the Briarwood revolt. This is a case of Keyleth vs. most if not all the Party. The Party was down on spells, down on HP, and wanted to rest in the middle of the Briarwood battle at the end of the arc. Keyleth was the only one recognizing that they had uprisen an army of peasants who were, as long as they chose to rest, fighting alone. The more time they took for themselves to rest, which was mechanically the correct choice for the party, the more chance of civilian casualties. This is one of the prime decisions where I shifted my tune. The first time around, I found it very easy to agree with the party that they needed spell slots and it'd be dumb to go in without spell slots. But narratively, Keyleth was right (and Matt actually validated this, when civilians did perish in the revolt), the longer they rested, the worse it was for the army they raised.
2 - One of the dragons flies over Whitestone, Keyleth vs. Percy. Percy advises they stand still and don't jump to defense, because if they do and the dragon didn't see them in the first place, they've just outed themselves. Keyleth is adamant they have to defend immediately, her fear taking over. Considering how powerful and formidable the dragons have been up to this point, her fear isn't unwarranted. It's easy to side with Percy, who ends up being in the right as Whitestone isn't seen, but it doesn't make Keyleth's thought process wrong either.
I know there's specifics in the Raishan/Keyleth segment that could be tackled, but I don't remember the specifics well enough because I haven't rewatched that bit yet. I remember the first time definitely not being on Keyleth's side, but I'm interested to see how my perspective has shifted.
TLDR; I don't think Keyleth's choice are terrible. I think that they can be hard to understand, and sometimes you need to put a little extra effort into understanding them, because she's a character where it can be very easy to side against her. My main advice is taking that initiative to try to think through what Marisha's logic might be in playing Keyleth, how whatever decision she's making now ties into her history, and you might get a better idea of Keyleth in general. I shifted my tune on Keyleth with time, and I really think anyone can, but even if you never really get to understanding her, you're still fine and you're not a h8er because it's easy to tell you're trying.
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vethbrenatto · 9 hours ago
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As long as you investigate and have a song in your heart, you’re a Bardy Boy.
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vethbrenatto · 10 hours ago
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i simply cannot watch an 8 minute scene of scanlan trying to buy drugs and actually buying a cooking spice. ive moved past that. mentally, spiritually, emotionally.
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vethbrenatto · 11 hours ago
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I love them✨ gave up on having the right horns for fearne cause they’re too hard for me to draw 😩
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vethbrenatto · 11 hours ago
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hello it has been almost six months since campaign two ended and I am thinking about how many times Caleb tried to ensure he still had a place in Veth's life once she went back to her family.
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vethbrenatto · 11 hours ago
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i love scanlan as a charisma character because while he can be very smooth, he often errs on more of the side of being... for lack of a better word, just kind of annoying. but like. in a fun way. and that’s fun to watch because you have to watch PCs and NPCs alike deal with scanlan’s 22 charisma and go “why do i like this fuck????”
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vethbrenatto · 11 hours ago
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Mischief mischief mischief mi-
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vethbrenatto · 12 hours ago
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Huevember day 27: Nott/Veth
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