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[whinyandcheese724]

Rewatching s2e1 and Eddie's introduction is a masterpiece. The first shot we see is him shirtless with 'what a man' playing in the background. Continue with him being cool as a cucumber for the next 20 minutes, really hammering in the point that he's chill, strong, confident, knows what he's doing. Just is more put together and sure of himself than Buck. And when we get to the bomb difusing scene everything's going great, he's smart, skilled, even making friends with Buck, and we the audience are led to believe that this man has everything figured out.

And then the ambulance just blows up behind him

And it's glorious

#and even then he's still trying to act cool #like nothing rattles him #and it's just brilliant forshadowing of all of his issues #because he pretends like he's this constantly cool under pressure guy #when really theres so much he has to deal with that he's just ignoring #and it slowly builds until it just blows up #eddie diaz #911 abc #evan buckley

[whinyandcheese724]

I mean I’m not disagreeing with you but also the Buck Tommy shippers might have less of a hard time with buddie shippers if they you know. Stopped tagging buddie in their novel length essays on the greatness that is Tommy Kinard and why everyone else should think so and instead posted under the Buck and Tommy tag itself 💀

this is definitely a fair point. i haven't been on the buddie tag in a little bit, so i don't know what the reaction is over there but i know i get annoyed when people post anti-bucktommy stuff on the bucktommy tag. i think people just need to keep there tags appropriate, so to speak

#bucktommy #buddie #evan buckley #tommy kinard #eddie diaz #911 abc #911 season 7

[whinyandcheese724]

just want to be clear about something. I am someone who has shipped buddie since I started watching (admittedly only a few months ago) and I will likely continue to ship buddie even after the show is over. right now I am immensely enjoying bucktommy and shipping them because they're adorable together, but I don't want them to be endgame

THAT BEING SAID, you do not have to ship buddie to be considered a real fan. if you are someone who ships bucktommy, and only bucktommy, that's okay. you don't have to say in every bucktommy post that you're still a buddie shipper. and you're allowed to change your mind about both ships at any time

fandom exists purely for our enjoyment. if you're not enjoying a certain relationship, you're not required to interact with it to prove you're a fan, and you cannot call someone else a fake fan or a bad person (or other nice names) for not having the same opinion as you. and that goes for any fandom

just wanted to say that, because the amount of posts i see (mine included) that are about bucktommy, but have a "dw i still ship buddie" disclaimer is alarming

#bucktommy #tevan #buddie #evan buckley #eddie diaz #tommy kinard #911 abc #911 season 7

[whinyandcheese724]

can we just take a sec to look at this picture. Eddie isn't shirtless. he's wearing what's left of his shirt. he didn't take his shirt off and put the jacket on with out his shirt. he's still wearing the collar. the rest of his shirt got ripped off (or something similar)

what the FUCK happened at the bachelor party?!?!?

#eddie diaz #911 abc #911 season 7 #chimney han

[whinyandcheese724]

oliver stark is stronger than me because if my boss told me i had to say the phrase "i'm an ally" on a date with someone of the same gender, i would actually quit my job

#legit want to know what oliver and lou's reactions were when they first read this scene #did they need to take a minute to breathe after reading that #how many takes did they need to do #really is a testament to oliver and lou's acting that they were able to make it through that scene at least once without laughing #and that's not even counting the hot chicks line #911 abc #911 season 7 #evan buckley #tommy kinard #bucktommy #tevan

[whinyandcheese724]

really need a bucktommy date where buck surprises tommy with a home-cooked dinner. i just feel like it would be so tender.

#i want to see tommy's little surprised face when it actually tastes good #cause buck is not the kind of person you would expect to be a good chef #i feel like buck would be so proud of himself and so blushy and giggly #can we get this please #bucktommy #tevan #evan buckley #tommy kinard #911 abc

[whinyandcheese724]

personally, I'm not at all disappointed that they gave Buck a queer arc before Eddie, or that they switched love interests, and I actually feel better about this interview for a few reasons

Point 1 - Buck is bi, Eddie is not: This is my personal hc so no hate if you disagree, but I always viewed Buck as bi, and Eddie as demi. We know he had issues with Ana and is now having issues with Marisol, but he really did seem happy and comfortable in those moments with Shannon, which is why I never quite got on the "Eddie is gay" train. I know the chances of a major network tv show (or even any tv show) actually using the word demi out loud is slim, but it's still what I want and think fits best (and I wouldn't be surprised if they left Eddie unlabeled, seeing as they haven't even officially given Buck a label), and having Eddie get into a relationship with Tommy would feel as shallow and not-right as his previous relationships. This story of meeting a guy and having a crush and being kissed and asked out by a guy when you've never even conciously considered guys before just fits better on Buck than it would on Eddie.

Point 2 - Buck needs to go first: Jumping off the last point, if we're going with the opinion that Buck is into men, while Eddie is into Buck (which I've seen a lot of support for within the text and the fandom) then Buck needs to have his arc first. I can't see Eddie even considering that his feelings for Buck are more than platonic without Buck coming out. By having Buck come out first, Eddie has the chance to look at him and go "huh? didn't realize that was an option" (kind of like how he did in the coming out scene with realizing Tommy, a character established to be very similar to Eddie, is gay). Buck's character arcs tend to be loud and blunt with him getting hit on the head by the point, he learns by doing. but Eddie's arcs tend to be calmer and quieter and more introspective, with little things building up until they blow over, he learns by thinking. By having Buck come out first and date, not just a guy, but a guy Eddie's friends with who is very similar to him, it becomes another little thing that can help Eddie on his journey

Point 3 - Eddie can still be queer: One of the worries about this interview might be that they decided a queer Eddie arc didn't work, but the way I see it, they were considering queer Eddie. Not just in a jokingly-sending-my-costar-fanfiction way, but in an actual writers-and-directors-etc-are-seriously-considering-this-arc. That's huge. And we joke about Lou going to pr jail, but this is a serious thing, and the cast and crew know that. I seriously doubt if they weren't comfortable with the audience knowing they wouldn't have told Lou not to say anything, or that he didn't still ask if he could talk about it. The way I see it, the cast and crew and writers and network were seriously considering giving Eddie a queer arc, and are okay with the audience knowing it, maybe because they're considering giving him a slightly different queer arc in the future.

all this to say: This arc with Tommy works best with Buck having the physical experience of dating a man, and Eddie watching from the side and starting to consider it in his own mind. And just because they dropped Eddie's arc with Tommy, doesn't mean they can't give him his own different arc later down the line

#buddie #evan buckley #eddie diaz #demi!eddie #911 abc #911 season 7 #tommy kinard #911 speculation #bisexual #demisexual #ryan guzman #oliver stark #lou ferrigno jr

[whinyandcheese724]

may be an unpopular opinion, but I hope buck and eddie don't hook up next episode. don't get me wrong i still want buddie endgame, but not so quickly. ep 4 threw them off-kilter, and as close as they were in ep 5, there was still a wall between them for most of the episode. i need to see them be best friends again, real, honest, best friends before i can contemplate them as anything else.

also, as much as i love buddie, not everything should be about them. buck's sexuality arc is about buck, not buddie. he doesn't like tommy, because he's misplacing his feelings for eddie, he likes tommy because he's bi and he likes boys (and tommy's really hot). and the madney wedding, should be about MADNEY. we haven't really gotten any scenes of them together this season, they deserve to have a wedding that's about them

#and buddie deserves a better start than a drunken mistake when they're both seeing other people #we've already gone through the buck-cheating arc #we don't need another one #buddie shouldn't have anything to worry or feel guilty about when they get together #and if this means we get more bucktommy in the mean time? #i'm not complaining #evan buckley #eddie diaz #buddie #911 abc #911 season 7 #madney #maddie buckley #chimney han

[whinyandcheese724]

That was a weird ass dumpster fire of an episode and I loved every second

#couldn't articulate how i felt about this episode #but you did it perfectly #mine #abc 911 #911 abc #911 #911 spoilers #this felt like the opposite of a filler episode #like they're pulling on all these unrelated strings at the same exact time #and we get a hot mess that i can't wait to rewatch tomorrow

[whinyandcheese724]

EPISODE 6 ISN'T COMING OUT UNTIL MAY 2!?!?!?! I THOUGHT THEY WERE JUST SKIPPING A WEEK??? NOOOOOOO

#i feel so cheated #911 season 7 #911 abc #evan buckley #eddie diaz #hen wilson #chimney han #bobby nash #maddie buckley #athena grant

[whinyandcheese724]

saw the bucktommy date sneak peek and immediately thought of this tweet

#cause why did he say that #and tommy STILL flirted with him #that's dedication #evan buckley #tommy kinard #bucktommy #tevan #911 abc #911 season 7

[whinyandcheese724]

on bucktommy's ship name

i've seen a bunch of polls regarding bucktommy's ship name and for each one i've voted tevan, and i wanted to explain.

having Tommy call Buck 'Evan' is such a specific and deliberate choice. and not only does he call Buck 'Evan' he never calls him 'Buck', even though that's what they all called him in the chopper. the only explanation I can think of for why Tommy calls him 'Evan' is that when Buck called about the tour he reintroduced himself as Evan, and just never corrected Tommy. but ignoring the how and why of it within the universe, having Tommy call him 'Evan', when no other characters besides Buck's parents regularly call him that, when it's been shown that 'Evan' is really only used in incredibly important and weighty scenes, is such a choice and should be acknowledged. because it highlights the importance both of Tommy as a character and this whole arc. because this isn't Buck's story, it's Evan's. Evan is the one who never got to know this part of himself growing up. Evan is the one who needs to learn and grow and experience this. Before Buck was Buck, he was Evan, and Evan is the one that needs this arc. so that's why I think the ship name should be tevan, but then again, I'll probs keep using bucktommy

#tevan #bucktommy #evan buckley #tommy kinard #bisexual #911 season 7 #911 abc #911 spec

[whinyandcheese724]

how old is tommy

everybody's been confused about tommy's age, so I thought I'd put out my theory.

lou is 39 years old so it would make sense for tommy to be around that age. if tommy had joined the lafd right out of high school he could have been there for two years by the time chim joined in 2005 and he'd be 39.

but then we come to the problem of him being in the army. even if he had joined right out of high school, pilots have to complete a year of training, and are then required to serve for 10 years, meaning if he had completed his service, he would have to be 29 by the time he joined the lafd. assuming he wasn't a probie at the same time as chim, and he would have had to be 30 in 2005, making him almost 50 now, which doesn't feel quite right

but the key phrase in that last part is "if he completed his service". though we don't know his exact orientation, we do know tommy isn't straight, and he would have been serving in the army during dadt. if someone found out about his sexuality, he could have been discharged before his mandated service was completed.

there are a lot of assumptions and non-exact amounts here, so I haven't really cleared anything up, but personally, I like to think he's 42. he joined the army right out of high school, did his one year of training and 2 years of service before getting discharged, took a year to get his bearings/join the fire academy, and was at the 118 for about a year when chim joined, making him 23 in 2005, and 42 now. why? I'll explain

even though you legally become an adult at 18, you're still not really a fully formed person yet. if tommy was 18 when he joined the army, even if he already knew he was queer, his time in the army would have been instrumental to how he views himself and his identity, just in terms of growing up and being an adult. if he was already out and proud, the army would have broken his confidence down, and if he never accepted himself, they would have just reinforced whatever self-loathing he had. plus if he didn't even know, finding out you're gay when it could lose you your job is traumatizing. having tommy join the army fresh out of high school, and then get discharged 3 years later gives him enough time to have the training necessary to still be a pilot 20 years later, and enough time to really have been broken down by the system, while still not being too old when he joins the lafd

i don't know what the policy is for telling people why you got discharged, but if tommy could have kept it a secret at the lafd, he probs would have. obviously the writers probably weren't planning this when they introduced him, but having him not only be closeted queer, but also have him be fired for being queer adds a really interesting layer to his character and his interactions with chim and hen in the begins episodes.

and as for why have him be 42 instead of say, 41 or 43? because Abby was 42. someone pointed out that tommy and abby parallel each other in how they're both people who have helped/are helping buck better understand who he is and what he wants for himself in terms of a romantic relationship. having him be 42 makes that connection

#plus any older feels a little too old #tommy kinard #evan buckley #tevan #bucktommy #911 abc #911 season 7

[whinyandcheese724]

reminds me of that post that was like "buck wouldn't mind being in love with a man if it didn't mean being in love with his best friend. eddie wouldn't mind being in love with his best friend if it didn't mean being in love with a man."

buck can't understand what he feels for eddie until he understands his sexuality, and what he feels for men in general, but eddie can't understand his sexuality or what he's felt for his partners (bc i hc eddie as demi) until he understands buck's place in his life

i think that buck needs to be bisexual before he can realize his feelings for eddie, but eddie needs to realize his feelings for buck before he can comprehend his sexuality

#yep #Buck had this thing going with men in general that Eddie has going only with Buck #if they are not gonna play the angle of any of them being aware of feelings before now #Eddie's queer awakening can be attached to Buck in a way Buck's can't be attached to him #mostly because im a demi Eddie truther but also because you can make the ''conflict'' of Eddie's awakening #more about who he taught a man should be like and who he actually is then the actual i like men thing #that Buck needs to go through #but yeah #this is how we get demi Eddie #please #911 #911 spoilers

[whinyandcheese724]

buck saying he was trying to get tommy's attention, not because he didn't know he was trying to get eddie's, but because he did. buck said out loud that he was jealous that eddie and tommy had gotten so close when they only knew each other few weeks. he verbally complained to maddie that he didn't like that christopher thought tommy was so cool, and he fully admitted that he didn't like basketball and was only going because eddie was going with tommy. he knew full well the entire time that he was trying to get eddie's attention, even if he didn't know or wasn't right about why, he knew what he was doing. but he was also trying to get tommy's attention. he didn't know tommy and eddie were friends when he went to the hangar for a tour, or when he asked tommy out for a beer (even if it was platonically). he was just as much trying to get tommy's attention as eddie's and the reason it's an epiphany is because that's what he didn't know. it's not about misplaced feelings, it's that one he already knew, and one he didn't, and the one he didn't was tommy.

#evan buckley #eddie diaz #tommy kinard #buddie #bucktommy #911 abc #911 season 7 #911 7x04

[whinyandcheese724]

tbh I'm honestly really glad that buck's first kiss with a man, wasn't with Eddie. I feel like there are so many queer characters, (especially bi characters) that come to terms with their sexuality because of their endgame relationship. Alex's (rw&rb) bi awakening was with Henry, the guy he ends up marrying, Nick's (heartstopper) was with Charlie, his first and only boyfriend, even other queer characters in the 911verse like Hen, TK, and Carlos, only have their one main love interest (I know Hen had Eva, but she was really just there for drama). and that's not to say that there's anything wrong with a character only having one love interest, or that you're not actually bi (or whatever sexuality) if you end up with your sexual awakening. but I like that Buck might get to actually explore his sexuality with more than one person. this is truly a revolutionary thing because you have a main character who has historically been shown as traditionally masculine and a womanizer, and seven seasons into the show (and 32ish years into his life) he's been given a bi awakening, and he might actually get to be with more than one guy, or get to be with another girl after. obviously, I hope he does end up with Eddie, but I really hope we get to see him dating or being with a few other people, because I feel like we never see that

Edit: because I just realized I said in a previous post that I didn't think Buck and Eddie needed to date other people before each other, I have quite obviously changed my mind, but I don't think I realized how much I wanted buck's bi awakening to be it's own thinkg separate from buddie until this episode, and I'm really glad I was wrong, and they did it this way

#evan buck buckley #evan buckley #eddie diaz #tommy kinard #911 season 7 #911 abc #bisexual #911 7x04

[whinyandcheese724]

honestly, really impressed with ABC right now. with all the new queer rep in TV nowadays, I don't think I've ever seen a show where a main queer character wasn't either established to be queer right away, or who's early arc didn't consist of them finding out they're queer. whether or not Buddie happens (here's to hoping), ABC genuinely took an established main character of a really popular show and gave him a sexuality arc, 7 SEASONS into the show. And not like with destiel where the character admitted feelings and then fell into a black hole (I think, I've never actually seen the show). like this was an actual kiss, being followed up with an actual date. hats off to ABC, this was a fantastic episode, and hopefully the start of an amazing arc for Buck (and Eddie?!?)

Edit: I'm such a dumbass. just now realizing they knew who Joey was because they watched the bachelorette

#still miffed we don't know how chimney and co knew Joey #hopefully we find that out next ep? #911 #911 abc #evan buckley #evan buck buckely #tommy kinard #eddie diaz #buddie #tuck #911 season 7 #bisexual