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vermillioncrown · 2 years

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Not very familiar with knb but it seemed to be a lot of self loathing for me? Like if you asked Kuroko if Kagami would do something so cruel to Miho and just drop her for maximum psychological damage he'd be all WTF NO HOW DARE. He knows Kagami is a kind person who cares for his team, but he's seen his old teammates change too. And specifically with him, he believes Kagami will help any of their teammates regardless of talent and will help them mentally, iirc Kagami has also been training up the other first years and helping them keep their heads cool, but their mental weaknesses are things like nerves and insecurity. If the other first members struggle Kagami will help but Kuroko will obviously be swept out with the trash if he can't keep up.

Kuroko loves basketball, and a large part of that love is about team play and being with his friends, and then the Teiko disaster happened. So it seems to me(based on the wiki and bil) he made like a detailed plan for things to Go Right this time, how to be a better shadow, but he couldn't be sure how long it would take to find and train a proper light. He was determined of course, the darker the shadow the brighter the light but he must have been aware that it might take a bit to create the right dynamic. And then Kagami showed up and was obviously perfect for the role. But Kagami rejects the whole thing but doesn't reject him, Kuroko's worth is not based on how useful he is, he's more than just a shadow or phantom. So right off the bat Kuroko gets not only the exact kind of player he needed to be paired with to defeat the Miracles and make Seirin number one, but also that kind of closeness and acknowledgment and teamwork that he craves without having to prove himself first. If Kuroko doesn't know what he did to be worthy of this, then how can he know what missteps will make him unworthy? Boy seems like he has a desperate need to be useful at all times, and he is scrambling to try to be as useful to Kagami as possible, both as a player and as a person, but if he can't fully embrace Ball Is Life, will that outweigh his usefulness, make him more troubme than he's worth? He's miserable at the thought of losing Kagami and being distant from the rest of Seirin, but he can't let go of his former teammates either.

From a cold logic standpoint, even though Kagami obviously doesn't care for the Miracle bullshit, he still treats Kise and Midorima kindly despite not as nearly a close of a relationship as he does with Kuroko. Kagami bitches and moans but he genuinely helps Kise and Midorima and is willing to banter, and eventually the whole circus will be in his living room. But you can't just outlogic trauma.

A+, full marks

notes of appreciation:

you went into the wiki and looked things up

references to in-fic events and behaviors

understanding of tendency to allow injustice onto self vs others

you can't outlogic trauma

the need to feel useful as a metric of self-worth

low self-esteem and feeling unworthy of kindness, plus being comfortable in discomfort

#inquiry #Anonymous #on bil #we're done here i think #kuroko pov discussion has exceeded the chapter word count #and that's not including my responses #also thanks for recognizing that si!kagami is very conscientious in how he outwardly treats the clowns #you get to see in his head. he's safe in there thus he can bitch and moan all he wants #but it's about what he chooses to do outwardly #he thinks they are rude and annoying but it's a deliberate choice to not be mean to them #petty? sure. but not mean.#^you know what? it's the same way everyone went on about zhou le for his pov #the same grace extended to other characters wasn't so in his case #just because he thinks how he thinks? are we catholic here?#thoughts are thoughts actions are actions

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goldrockyroad · 3 years

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now that the season is over here are chuang2021 moments i cannot believe are real, a list that only gets longer and in no particular order:

- that entire bit of them choosing their dorm rooms, including but not limited to:

lin mo copping his double room only to lose it + his mental breakdown after that

almost 20 of them fighting to have hiroto stay in their room

nine and patrick's 'we break up' (only for patrick to move in after 1st round of eliminations)

ak: ‘does rikimaru snore?’ santa: ‘yeah, very loudly’ ak: ‘oh NOOOO i’m scREWED’

- hanfu shop owner liu yu

- han meijuan training base:

yu gengyin’s ‘i am a proud fishie swimming into your heart’

also yu gengyin: ‘i’m a little scared that the debut lineup will end up being 11 han meijuans’

zhang xinyao dropping it low. that’s it.

han peiquan: ‘look at that santa, he can dance so well but can he do this? he can play the drums but ask him to come here, can he do it? no way’

the entire “just go where you want” performance including their intro + mentors comments + xie xingyang’s slogans

but even more so “just go where you want” 2.0 LIVE AT THE FINALS

- the mentors dancing along to ‘vote for me xoxo’ during “just go where you want” 2.0 before carrying and promptly drOPPING zhou shen onto the floor before the rest of them pretend like nothing happened in time for the ending pose

- “when i’m with you”, “unbreakable love”, “just go where you want” > the actual theme song all day every day

- don't be shy @/tencent , give me all the clips of gan wangxing singing jing long's “lost you” (diu le ni) + more of the both of them dancing to crab dance backstage

- zhou shen, to shao mingming on the verge of having a meltdown over mean comments about him as practice for “i don’t care” stage: ‘do you want to hear the next comment?’ shao mingming, as the others start laughing: ‘plEASE NO’ zhou shen, reading the comment anyway: ‘he only knows how to cry’ cue maniac laughter from all of them

- just hanjiang, really

zhang xinyao, on “feng ding” stage: ‘it was so good. also i wanna add hanjiang you look like huluwa’

to wu yuheng after “i don’t care” team’s performance: ‘there’s only one word to describe you - handsome. first time i saw you i went, woah, handsome. saw you on stage performing - woah, handsome. seriously, handsome’

xue bayi, backstage: ‘i think he’s said that to me too’

when called up at 2nd eliminations: ‘what’s manga-like man?’ another trainee: ‘ means you look like you came out of a manga’ zhou zhennan: ‘yeah it’s like fei yang yang came out of the page into real life’

domineering ceo with all of them either screaming or looking mildly uncomfortable

literally scREAMING to get people to join “zui kuen” team

more importantly hanjiang’s dad imitating him scream to get people to join “zui kuen” team to a dAMN T

- patrick: ‘hello everyone i am your ocean prince patrick!’ wu hai: ‘and i am the ocean’ [for non-chinese speaking fans of chuang, the hai 海 in wu hai means ocean] + the continuation of this on wu hai’s dorm diary

- “unbreakable love” 2.0 !!!! put it on spotify right now !!!!!

- da-geTM bo yuan

fu sichao, on bo yuan getting 9th for 2nd eliminations: ‘that feeling when your own old man (laughs for a bit) when your old man gets a really good grade, it’s indescribable happiness’

amu: ‘bo yuan’s like my grandpa, and he might as well be’

eisho’s ‘bo yuan gege’

hiroto getting other trainees to call him da-ge on dorm diary but having bo yuan as his da-ge

or alternatively, yuan-shu [uncle yuan], as seen after using the term fanersai（凡尔赛）[literally means versailles, a slang that means the same thing as flexing / humblebragging in english]

- gan wangxing unintentional comedian

han peiquan, on his first impressions of gan wangxing: ‘he’s such so good-looking, and then he opens his mouth (disbelievingly rolls his eyes) i almost died right there’

on being 11th for 2nd eliminations: ‘in the past, my life plan was that after graduating from university, i’d find a stable job and live a nine-to-five life. and i used to fantasize that in my future i’d be able to find a wife early, drive a car to bring her travelling, we can listen to some music and lift our heads to see the stars’

other trainees: laughing and going ‘oOHHHH’, notably including xie xingyang: ‘he’s still fantasizing!’

also other trainees, after seeing the video his family sent to cheer him on: ‘where’s the wife? where’s the wife!’

also ‘hello, look at me’ coming up everytime he shows up

case in point - the mentors erupting into laughter when gan wangxing steps forward to do his evaluation, notably zhou zhennan: ‘kill me with it!’ [i’m not sure how to translate what he actually said in a better way than that], nene following up by simply going ‘hello’, zhou zhennan immediately picking it up while still laughing: ‘look at me’

holding the umbrella for nene at the end of “it’s raining and i’m thinking of you” stage just for all the trainees backstage to go ‘why’s it you!’

Very Passionately telling gong jun what jing long taught him on singing

- ‘andy lau has come to visit our zoo!’

- wu yuheng’s quest for chilli sauce in his dorm diary:

wu yuheng and fu sichao terrorising a staff member for chilli sauce until the staff goes to wu yuheng ‘if you wake him (fu sichao) up every morning i’ll make sure you get your chilli sauce’ to which fu sichao says to wu yuheng ‘you know what chilli sauce isn’t that great let’s go’

wu yuheng straight up drinking zhou keyu’s chilli sauce because i could never

- liu yu confessing to lin mo as a dare from shao mingming but lin mo’s in the toilet so liu yu has to awkwardly do it standing outside the cubicle door while shao mingming and xue bayi eat the drama up

- oscar’s reaction to people finding out his real name + the entire ‘xiong xiong’ saga

- lelush with a pearl earring

- rikimaru moments that deserve a segment of their own

having the first comment on his first solo performance be ‘drop your skincare routine’ [essentially] because the mentors didn’t have anything to critique on his performance

at the start of his speech at 3rd eliminations, when it was clearly evening: ‘good morning’

getting very sad over the fact that yumeri didn't send him a video to cheer him on + being jealous every time someone's sister showing up in the videos

- speaking of sisters, the guys simping over amu's sisters + amu, asking the mentors when trainees had the chance to dedicate a few words to each other during the final livestream: 'can my sisters come next year?'

- santa, on preparation for nana party stage: ‘she (mao xiaotong) learnt the choreography really fast, and even if she made mistakes she’ll be like *makes cute expressions* so even when she did i’d be like “it’s ok! no problem!” she’s so cute’ the staff interviewing him: ‘is this the santa we know?’

- “the adventure” team making fun of their female guest before finding out said female guest was meng meiqi aka goddess incarnate AND had been watching them make fun of her through the cameras

- lin mo’s bat song

- xie xingyang discreetly stealing food from the staff on their movie night that was originally supposed to only be for those who used their beans before a whole group of them [led by jing long, consisting of xie xingyang, wei ziyue, hu yetao and others] just go and outright take it with nine hugging the staff member to let them take the food that entire bts video is a mess and you know what? that’s what i’m here for

- zhou zhennan’s constant ‘wtf’ face

- that chuang x GQ beach video

- gong jun’s entire time on chuang, but especially the moments with zhou shen. felt like a fever dream tbh

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