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#1) glimmer's decision at the end of s4 feels like it has no consequences
cherrymoonvol6 · 5 months
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#i finished binging the she-ra show#and it was fine? this is what people are so angry about?#i think catra's redemption was well setup and made sense#and while i still like the catra adora romance i wish there was like... more of it#here are some gripes i have tho#1) glimmer's decision at the end of s4 feels like it has no consequences#like for starters i'm annoyed that the issue ended being incredibly black or white and it zapped out the nuance of the respective decisions#but she's like alright i was completely wrong and after bow forgives her it's like... ok surely more people would have Opinions about this?#but no they don't. missed opportunity#but the problem in shows like these (idk if it's different outside western animation) is that there's no budget to deal with--#--cities and kingdoms having people. which makes them feel like shells that have little substance beyond being a narrative device#and yes everything in a show/piece of media IS a narrative device but you know. you gotta hide that. that's the beauty of media#but like... there's a universe where glimmer's subjects saw the consequences of her actions and rose against her. that woulda been fun!#2) adora's conflict in the finale of ohhh i have to Fulfill my Destiny(TM) comes so out of nowhere. esp when she had been against the--#--whole destiny angle for the previous four seasons. suddenly she's burdened with it and it's clear that it's a way to isolate adora#but it's SO sloppily done and there's no buildup to it#and 3) woulda like if they did more with the first ones. there's a lot of potential there and maybe a more natural way of isolate adora#like have her have this crisis of 'there's no one here who can fully understand me' and i thought that was what they'd do with the--#--cat creature they introduce in S5? but just ends up being catra's magic animal sidekick#idk there was a lot there to investigate. bow's dad could've been a good resource to make that happen too#uhhh that's it mostly?#at the end of the day this kind of western animated shows feel so pandering to kids. very formulaic and simple#tho i do respect that the show followed through the worst outcome in almost every occasion#(that's why catra compells me.... talk about a character who makes the worst decision at every point. she's just like me fr fr)#but yeah it was cute#i also like how bisexual the show felt at all times (except the ending where they were like ok monogamy is the goal but eh)#cute show. fun characters. easy 7/10#catradora good#not great but eh#no show can give me compelling couples to obsess over (except for skam españa i guess)
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she-keeps-her-word · 4 years
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finished she-ra here is what i think
i want y'all to know that i binge watched the 1-4 seasons in a couple of days but it was really hard for me to finish season 5 because... yes it was so... rushed
first of all the glimmer and adora reunion was so underwhelming, season 4 was all about glimmer's grief and glimmadora relationship having a new dynamic and obstacles but their reunion and reconciliation was so ? they barely talked after they rescued glimmer and almost didn't have screentime together in the entire season
but suddenly bow was super mad at glimmer (when in season 4 he didn't seem to). It was like the writers tried to focus both glimmer and adora in other people and not each other (the friendships in general were SO left out when the show was about that in the first place).
glimmer and bow are cute but the romance seems out of nowhere, they didn't hint about romantic feelings before this season AT ALL.
i actually liked glimmer and catra bonding (5x03 was good THE DINNER SCENE) but the way glimmer never confronted catra about how it was catra's fault angella died is so ?? i know the rebellion are the good people and merciful but GLIMMER WANTED to end everyone who tried to harm her people and then she didn't tried to punish (or even ask for an apology) the person who was guilty for her mother's death???
this thing about the characters changing and forgetting their development is something that is in the three main girls, added to the rushed plots and romances, this season was so... disappointing
catradora: i knew it was going to happen bc i saw everyone talking about it so it didn't surprise me but since season 1 i have been like "i hope catra redemption arc is good" and then season 3 and 4 happened and i was like "she can't be redeemed, no matter what the writers do it wouldn't be enough for me". And then the "redemption" arc was rushed and empty.
yes, i know catra has trauma but that don't excuse her behavior. she always had some weird obsession with adora and i know the writers tried to build the ship from the start (i guess? unless it was fanservise and they came up with this in the last season), they tried to portray something (unconditional love?) but for me they didn't do it well.
i never liked how catra acted out of that so called love, she was inherently a bad person and was cruel with adora the entire show bc "adora always win", because adora had new friends, a healthier life and survived without her. and adora tried to bring catra to the rebellion she just didn't want to go bc SHE DIDN'T WANT TO SHARE ADORA, the whole thing about how adora never stayed IS BULLSHIT. She tried to destroy the universe out of her spite.
it feels a lot like "if i can't have you no one can" (in my own terms of course, in the horde and without other friends because you are only mine) so why a lot of people excuse this behavior in this wlw couple but then see how bad it is in straight ships.
bow, glimmer and catra interactions were entertaining but they just felt so rushed having in mind their background. again i know the rebellion are the good people that forgive but make it make sense. catra was also responsible of the dead of all the people in mermista's kingdom and they didn't even interacted.
what kind of redemption is if the character isn't even confronted for their mistakes?
the only thing that made catra rethink a little bit (in season 4) about how was she behaving was scorpia telling her she was a bad friend and that friendship was so left out AND FOR WHAT the romance wasn't the reason that made the characters mature. scorpia deserved better she deserved AN APOLOGY.
about adora, she got to know what healthy friendships were, in season 3 she told catra that she made her choice and should live with the consequences of her actions and adora was decided to let her go for good (and in season 4 she pretty much did, until scorpia showed up in the castle, she was like who is catra?) but all that was forgotten from one scene to another and adora came back to the unhealthy relationship where catra push and push her away and adora have to reach for her over and over again even when she is mistreated.
I don't know, again, for me catra redemption was something impossible but at least they could do it better and with more time so this change of mind in the characters would have made sense. I want to believe the writers tried to portray something but didn't do it well.
the good thing is that having in mind catra is suddenly good and mentally stable their future didn't look that bad and they could have a healthy relationship.
and it's really nice that a kids show gave all the lgbt rep so easily without making it a big deal (i love netossa and spinnerella!!!!).
i really liked hordak and entrapta (yes, i know he was part of the ditactorship but he always protected her), they had one of the best build in the show, she brings the best of him and he never expects things from her. But we didn't see he being redeemed since the show ended when he got his conscience. Would he have been a good guy after that? I don't know. He never showed remorse of what he did and he took the decisions of the ditactorship for a long while. I personally like his relationship with entrapta but i dont think he should be forgiven. He made decisions that killed innocent people in the same way than catra, romance or one good relationship with one person don't absolve you of that.
A lot of people are mad bc of shadow weaver arc and i get it but i think she was never treated as someone good or part of the team. they didn't even trust her and never forgave her (as they should), they tried to work with her for the better good that's all. And she was prisoner for a while.
And that's the thing, the audience never forgave the children abuser (me neither) but don't see their double moral with how pleased they are with catra character lol
catra was never a prisoner of the rebellion, didn't have to apologise for the deaths and the psychological damage she caused. Isn't realistic how the rebellion trusted her after ONE good action and how all her emotional instability was erased in the last two eps.
okay i love the show in general but i feel like in the last season it lost its message a little bit. friendships (as bow said in s4) require work from both sides to be healthy.
and sometimes villains don't have to be redeemed not matter how much your fans ask for it.
AND GLIMMADORA DESERVED BETTER
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