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#He chose a specific sensei to teach Naruto chakra control
depressedhatakekakashi · 10 months
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I wanted to know your opinion of this comment that I found on YouTube: "naruto could of ace all the fights he's been in if he was appropriately trained and not neglected by everyone Kakashi never cared about Naruto in the sense of student-teacher he only cared about Sasuke and his growth that's why he told guy he was just like him, Kakashi only focused on Sasuke growth and never trained sakura and naruto like other sense do you see this when naruto trainers under pervy sage more and sakura under Tsunade and they both show explosive growth", I wanted to know if at any point you felt that Kakashi was negligent with Naruto in the first part of the anime. Imo that person saw Naruto with his ass, also I feel that they don't know what it is to be negligent..
Kakashi did not neglect Naruto’s training
Neglect means ‘looks at Naruto, shrugs his shoulders and does absolutly nothing’
Kakashi knew he needed to hyper focus on Sasuke’s trianing in the chunin exam (the only time he put any one student’s training over the others) because Sasuke was facing gaara. Gaara, the guy who almost murdered Lee in their fight.
Even recognizing he needed to focus on Sasuke more in that moment, Kakashi went and found Naruto a sensei for the time. Not just any sensei, but the best sensei in the village. Ebisu was a Jonin based soly on his teaching abilities (his fighting capabilities are chunin level at best from what we see and he’s not even a part of the war, which would require all hands on deck)
He chose Ebisu because Ebisu’s specific teaching capabilities were with chakra control, something Naruto needed a lot of help with. Ebisu was only replaced cuz Jiraiya knocked him out for calling him out on being a creepy perv (ebisu is a perv but he doesn’t spy on women at least.)
When Naruto went to train with Jiraiya it was about protecting naruto. The akatsuki was after him and the best place for him to be was under the protection of a Sannin (aka Jiraiya). Naruto spent two years training (mostly on his own from what we see) and had a huge amount of growth. This was not Jiraiya’s training as we really don’t see him actually train naruto. It was Naruto’s determination to grow stronger and train on his own
Sakura is the only one that’s a little allowable and that’s straight up to kishi neglecting her even though she’s the main female. She should have been sasuke and Naruto’s equal at the end but they got god status buffs while she did not. It’s sexism pure and simple and no amount if training from Kakashi or Tsunade was going to save her on that front.
The problem is a lot of the training is skipped. Sakura is said to have grown a lot as a shinobi between becoming a genin and fighting in the chunin exams. This was due to Kakashi’s training. Same with Naruto. Both of them grew much more confident and powerful under Kakashi’s teaching, we just don’t see any of it. It’s all skipped over for the big important missions so Naruto and his team can show off.
Had Naruto and Sakura been the exact same level as when they graduated, they would have died. Naruto against Haku (were it was sasuke and the kyubi chakra that saved him from getting his ass kicked) and Sakura in the chunin exams.
Sakura stood against three foes and not only didn’t die, but held up long enough for help to arrive. She even tricked said foes into falling into one of her traps she set to protect the boys.
Naruto also improved exponentially specificlly because of Kakashi’s teaching. Without Kakashi telling him about using the shadow clones to train and retain info faster, Naruto would not have grown as quickly as he did.
He would not have made his rasenshuriken in under a week
He would not have achieved sage mode by the time pein attacked Konoha
He would have stull grown, but at a much slower pace. It was Kakashi’s genius and use if Naruto’s specific skills and chakra abundence that allowed Baruto to go from the level he achieved under Jiraiya’s training, straight to sage mode. A perfect sage mode, which not even Jiraiya had been able to achieve (and which minato achieved but couldn’t use the same because it took him so long to activate)
And well, yes, Kakashi didn’t teach Sakura as much as he should have he DID teach her. Only sakura knew the qi release on team seven, a jonin rank technique. Kakashi pointed out her impressive chakra control and skill with genjutsu. Kakashi was the one who talked up her skills to Tsunade. Kakashi paid attention but he was also being pulled between ‘angsty kid hyper focused on revenge’ and ‘ticking tomb bomb who refuses to listen to anyone but his own feelings’. There was really no hope for sakura as long as she had to share a team with those two boys
Anyone saying Kakashi only payed attention to Sasuke 1) ignored the context of the story 2) ignored every instance he focused on the others.
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The Naruto series ended with most of the central cast of characters in their late teens. A time skip saw them (mostly) married with kids and leading the village in a new generation. Shikamaru ended Naruto Shippuden as a war hero, adviser to the Hokage, and a young man picking up the pieces after losing several people he cared for. By the events of Boruto, he became the Hokage’s right hand, married a formal rival, and was raising one third of the next generation of Ino-Shika-Cho.Shikamaru began the franchise as a lazy kid who couldn’t be bothered to study. He wanted nothing more than an average life where he could watch the clouds go by. Uninterested in marriage, intimidated by women, caring only for his close friends, and preferring to use his genius intellect for board games, it might surprise some fans to see where Shikamaru ended up.The Naruto arc that saw Shikamaru seek revenge for his sensei Asuma began the shinobi’s true growth spurt. Though he led teams before, his plans took out two Akatsuki members, avenged Asuma, and helped his friends grieve. That marked a turning point for him to grow into the man he became during the franchise “Blank Period” set between Naruto and Boruto.It’s during that period that Naruto’s generation was busy carving out new lives for themselves in a changing Konohagakure. Shikamaru more than made up for his lazy childhood, and we’ve got 25 Things Shikamaru Did Between Naruto And Boruto to prove it. 25 Shikamaru Married TemariAs the Naruto series wound to a close, the Fourth Shinobi World War occurred. During the events of the war, Shikamaru wasn’t in an office as an adviser, but out on the front lines of battle. His father Shikaku, the head of the Nara Clan, was in the intelligence office with Inoichi Yamanaka.The duo stayed in the headquarters during an attack, both losing their lives. By the time the war was over, Shikamaru had to become the head of the clan as the only son in the head family (that we know of). This particular storyline hasn’t come into play in the Boruto series, but with Shikadai next in line, perhaps it will. 23 He Became A JoninAspiring ninja in the Naruto world begin their journey at the Ninja Academy. Once they graduate, they become genin. Teams then enter the Chunin Exams to vie for promotion. Shikamaru was the first of the Naruto generation to achieve Chunin status, doing it the same year he graduated.The franchise never makes it clear just what Chunin have to achieve Jonin status. During the early days of Naruto Shippuden though, as nearly everyone in their generation are Chunin, Temari points out Shikamaru could easily make Jonin status. At some point following the Fourth Shinobi World War, he did just that. By the time The Last: Naruto The Movie occurs, he’s a Jonin team leader. 22 He Led The Hanabi Rescue MissionFollowing Shikamaru’s promotion to Jonin, he found himself selected to lead an important mission. Not only did he have to lead a team of his friends (Naruto, Hinata, Sakura, and Sai), but he had to rescue Hanabi Hyuga and stop the moon from crashing into the Earth.Hinata was the original target of a kidnapping plot as the “Byakugan Princess.” When she fought back, Toneri snatched away her little sister instead. Shikamaru wasn’t initially supposed to lead a team that included her, but Hinata didn’t want a rescue mission launched without her. It’s a good thing she came along because Shikamaru needed Hinata’s specific chakra to help save the day in the end. 21 He Had A SonThe Ino-Shika-Cho trio includes the children form the current head families of the Yamanaka, Nara, and Akimichi clans. Traditionally, it appears they were always three male. Shikamaru’s generation was the first to have a girl in their trio in the form of Ino Yamanaka, so he probably wouldn’t have been upset to have a daughter. Temari and Shikamaru, however, had a son.Staying close to the traditional Nara name format, the two named their son Shikadai. The Shikamaru Hiden novel revealed the duo had a hard time settling on a name. Since the birth of his son, Shikamaru worked to teach Shikadai some of their family specific jutsu, carrying on the old traditions. 20 He Fought A Lot Of PuppetsPuppet mastery is a unique shinobi skill. Of the main and recurring characters, only Kankuro uses puppets to fight on a regular basis. That’s why it’s interesting that some of Shikamaru’s major battles during the Blank Period involved puppets.During the events of The Last: Naruto The Movie, Shikamaru stayed behind to battle Toneri's puppets, allowing his team to move forward and continue to fight without him. During the light novel Gaara Hiden: A Sandstorm Mirage, Shikamaru also fought a puppeteer. This time, it’s to save Temari during a major meeting when she and Gaara are attacked.19 Shikamaru Advised Two New HokagesFans watched Shikamaru become a valuable fountain of strategic wisdom when Lady Tsunade acted as Konohagakure’s Fifth Hokage. She believed in Shikamaru’s skills and placed him in leadership positions as soon as he became a Chunin. After her time as Hokage ended, Shikamaru’s advisory position didn’t end.Shikamaru also acted as an advisor to Kakashi Hatake when he became Sixth Hokage. Like Tsunade before him, Kakashi gave Shikamaru assignments that placed him in charge of different missions or divisions. Following Kakashi stepping down, Shikamaru acted in the same role for Naruto. We’ll have to wait and see if he advises another new Hokage in the future.18 He Ran The Blood PrisonIf you’ve ever wondered what happened to the most dangerous shinobi when they were captured by authorities, wonder no more. One of the Naruto movies showed fans that they ended up in the Blood Prison, but a light novel gave fans a bit more detail as well.Set a year after the events of the Fourth Shinobi World War, Kakashi Hiden: Lightning In The Icy Sky saw Kakashi and Might Guy just wanting a little vacation. Instead, they ended up in the middle of a hostage negotiation. While they were busy doing that, Tsunade placed Shikamaru in charge of running the Blood Prison. By the end of the novel, he was back in an advisory position.17 He Brokered A Deal Between Tsunade And KakashiOne of the reasons Shikamaru didn’t last long as the director of the prison was because Kakashi recommended someone else for the job. He wanted Kahyo, the woman at the center of the hostage situation in the light novel, to run the prison as part of her sentence instead of losing her life.Shikamaru is the first to agree that it’s a good plan (probably because it got him away from the prison and back in the Hokage’s office). He and Lady Tsunade agreed to Kakashi’s terms, as long as Kakashi agreed to take over as Hokage. Everything worked out just fine.16 He Became Coordinator For The Shinobi UnionIt’s a good thing Shikamaru didn’t remain in place at the prison because he had quite a few other responsibilities on his hands. For the two years following the Fourth War, he was the coordinator of the Shinobi Union. Like the real life United Nations, the Shinobi Union was comprised of representatives from the major shinobi nations. They met to create treaties and make sure they could have a lasting peace. Shikamaru worked to coordinate schedules and set up meetings. As a result of his effort, the shinobi world experienced the longest period of peace they knew.15 He Started Keeping Secrets From FriendsNot one who could be bothered with keeping secrets as a kid, that changed as an adult. During the light novel Shikamaru Hiden: A Cloud Drifting In Silent Darkness, the title character ended up with a new assignment from Kakashi. He had to infiltrate another land, and possibly take out the dangerous leader.Shikamaru chose not to tell any of his close friends about the mission. He reasoned that Temari was an outsider since she was from Suna, that Choji and Ino shouldn’t be involved in such “foul business,” and that Naruto might lose faith in his abilities. Shikamaru lied to all of them until after the mission was over, something he’d never had to do. 14 He Refined His Shadow SkillsWhen Shikamaru first learned the skills inherited in his family, he had to take extra steps to perform certain jutsu. Primarily, when completing his Shadow Possession Jutsu, Shikamaru couldn’t enact it without utilizing hand signs.Hand signs help a shinobi to focus and refine different skills. Some jutsu require them. In Shikamaru’s case though, he became so adept with his shadow skills that by the time the Boruto series rolled around, he didn’t need hand signs to use every jutsu he performed with his shadows in combat. At some point during the Blank Period, he must have gotten in a bit more training.13 A Cult Leader Captured ShikamaruDuring the novel Shikamaru Hiden, the title character was sent on a rescue mission of sorts. An odd letter from Sai alerted Kakashi and Shikamaru to the fact that Sai was compromised. Shikamaru and a team went to the Land of Silence to rescue Sai and eliminate the land’s leader, presumably the one responsible for Sai’s strange messages.When Shikamaru got there, it didn’t take long for his team to be compromised as well. Gengo, the shinobi leading the Land of Silence, laced his voice with genjutsu, controlling his people. He captured Shikamaru and held him in prison when Shikamaru couldn’t quickly be swayed. The anime adapted a version of the arc for its final special episodes.12 He Refused To Leave His Job BehindThough Gengo found it odd that his genjutsu didn’t work on Shikamaru, he still gave the Konoha ninja the option to become one of his advisers instead. All Shikamaru had to do to get whatever he wanted in the Land of Silence was leave his position as adviser to the Hokage (and the shinobi lifestyle) behind.Shikamaru refused. He decided that if the people he cared about, like Temari and Naruto, were still back in Konoha, no amount of genjutsu was going to sway him. That resolve nearly worked. Over the course of several days, Shikamaru was tired of hearing his friends in pain and, given the choice to stay, he almost changed his mind.11 Temari Rescued HimIt’s lucky that, despite having genjutsu thrown his way with every word in the Land of Silence, Shikamaru remembered Temari and Naruto. Temari might have been more than a little upset when she mounted a rescue and he didn’t respond.Just as Shikamaru was seriously considering giving into Gengo’s genjutsu, a gust of wind lifted him off his feet. That wind cleared his head and gave him hope. Said wind was the result of Temari coming to the rescue with her giant fan. It was this particular rescue mission that allowed the two of them to realize how much they cared for one another.10 He Grew A GoateeShikamaru still sports his signature updo in Boruto, but in between the Naruto and Boruto series, a few other aspects of his appearance changed. Not only does he not walk around in the Konoha military issued flak jacket anymore, but gone is his baby face appearance.Taking after his father, Shikamaru grew a goatee during the franchise Blank Period. It seems like the artists really wanted the character to more closely resemble Shikaku. After all, since the early days of Naruto, even his hairline changed to resemble Shikaku’s. With the hairline and the goatee, the two look even more alike than they did initially.9 He Became Closer With NarutoOne of the hallmarks of the Naruto series was that Naruto was a friendless orphan who somehow hadn’t lost his faith in people. He wasn’t particularly close with anyone as a child because nearly his entire village was afraid of him - or more specifically the Nine-Tailed Fox inside him. Flashbacks revealed that Naruto, Shikamaru, Choji, and Kiba skipped school together. Somewhere along the way, Naruto became the outsider again. That changed as he literally saved the world time and time again. Shikamaru resolved to help him become Hokage, and along the way, the two developed a close friendship. Shikamaru promised to never lie to him, and their sons became best friends. 8 He Turned Down A Mission For A DateAs a kid, Shikamaru was all about putting in as little effort as possible. He even pretended to be caught in a genjutsu during the Chunin Exams to avoid defending the village, though he was caught in the act. Losing Asuma and being on the front lines in the Fourth Shinobi World War forced him to grow up quickly. As a result, he began taking on more and more missions for the Hokages who trusted him. It wasn’t until the events of Shikamaru Hiden, when Kakashi assigned him a mission that anyone could complete, that he actually flat out turned a mission down. He decided to spend his day off finally taking Temari on a date.7 Shikamaru Spent A Whole Day Searching For A GiftWhen Naruto and Hinata married, the entire village wanted to attend the ceremony. It created a headache for Kakashi. He had to plan out guard shifts to keep the massive number of attendees safe from any lingering war resentment. The matter of the gifts also created a headache for Shikamaru.All of the happy couple’s friends wanted the perfect gift. Shikamaru seemed to be the only one who hadn’t figured out his present. As a result, he spent an entire day getting advice from everyone else. After speaking with his former classmates, he finally enlisted Temari’s help in getting the newlywed’s a honeymoon at a spa.6 He Worked Out His Communication Issues With TemariFans know Temari and Shikamaru wound up married, but the road to get there was rocky. They started off as rivals during the Chunin Exams. They repeatedly saved one another from enemy shinobi over the next few years. The two became friends thanks to being paired up (in the anime) to proctor Chunin Exams for the next generation as well.Despite spending so much time together, the two never really learned how to communicate. While trying to enlist Temari’s help with a wedding gift (after their less than stellar first date), Shikamaru mistakenly let her think he wanted help planning their night at a spa! They both eventually realized their mistake and began to talk things through more. 5 He Became Mirai’s SenseiWhen Shikamaru lost Asuma to a battle with the Akatsuki, he vowed to protect his sensei’s unborn child. While he did stand guard over Kurenai and her daughter Mirai when the village faced attack, he also went a step further as an adult.The light novels reveal a bit of information the manga and anime haven’t delved into yet. When Mirai graduated from the Ninja Academy as a child, she didn’t suddenly jump to the position of body guard for the Hokage like she is in Boruto. She still needed more training. Shikamaru became her sensei, guiding her the way Asuma guided him in shinobi skills, team work, and logic.4 He Attempted To Get Gaara MarriedWhen Temari and Shikamaru finally decided they were ready to marry, they ran into a bit of a problem. As the sister of the Kazekage, Temari wasn’t supposed to marry until after Gaara did. Both Shikamaru and Temari set about helping Gaara find a wife.A marriage was arranged between Gaara and a woman named Hakuto in Gaara Hiden: A Sandstorm Mirage. Unfortunately for everyone involved, Gaara wasn’t interested in more than friendship. Hakuto was also already in a relationship with someone else. Their meeting also got attacked by missing ninja, so it was all around a difficult engagement.3 He Helped A Couple Get New IdentitiesWith Hakuto not interested in wedding the Kazekage, and Gaara being a relatively good sport about the whole thing, they formed a plan. Shikamaru and Gaara helped Hakuto start a new life.Gaara’s idea was to file a report stating that Hakuto and the real love of her life met their ends while traveling through the desert. All he needed was for Shikamaru to file a report in Konoha saying the same. Shikamaru did. He also got the two new documentation with whole new identities so they could live in Konoha with no one knowing the truth.2 He Reconciled His Childhood Dreams With His Adult LifeAs a child, Shikamaru made very clear what he desired in the long term: to live an unremarkable life. In fact, he was less interested in shinobi missions and more interested in laying back and watching the clouds, or playing a game of shogi.When Shikamaru Hiden gives us a glimpse into his point of view, the novel sees him wondering just how he ended up as one of the hardest working shinobi in the village. His desire to help overrides his desire for laziness, something he had to reconcile during the Blank Period. He can still take time to relax and play games with his son, and then go work for the village.1 Shikamaru Found A Temporary HokageIn order to become Hokage, there is an official induction ceremony in Konohagakure. It looks pretty bad if the person at the center of the presentation doesn’t show up at all. That’s what happened to Naruto.The animated short “The Day Naruto Became Hokage” revealed what happened. When attempting to stop a squabble between his kids, Naruto's daughter awakened her Byakugan and sealed his chakra points. He was unconscious when he was supposed to become Hokage! Luckily, Shikamaru came up with a plan on the fly. He instructed Naruto’s student Konohamaru to disguise himself as Naruto and stand in for the unlucky dad. The two helped prevent a village panic.---With a little more detail about the Blank Period between Naruto and Boruto, do you have more of an appreciation for all the things Shikamaru has done? Or does he still have a ways to go to make up for his childhood inactivity? Let us know in the comments.
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Maybe it's me but I don't understand how for someone to say that Kakashi talked to Tsunade about Sakura is to weaken such a strong moment for both characters (Sakura and Tsunade) and to pretend that Kakashi is secretly a good teacher. Like it's canon that Tsunade says that Kakashi told her about Sakura and I think it was thanks to him that she accepted her as a student, but well, maybe I misunderstood
Who is saying that!?
It doesn’t devalue tsunade and Sakura’s bond at all or lesson Sakura’s choice to ask Tsunade to train her
Sakura chose herself to seek Tsunade for training when she felt she was unable to do anything to help naruto or stop Sasuke
That wad 100% her choice
And although Kakashi talked up Sakura to Tsunade it was still 100% Tsunade’s choice to take Sakura on as a student
Nothing anout that scene is lessoned because Kakashi talked up Sakura, and why are people so desperate for Kakashi to be a bad teacher? He DID Talk up Sakura
He constantly complimented her skills and recognized her talents. He taught her the qi release
It was never just sasuke he noticed. He only focused on sasuke only when Sasuke was in danger fron orochimaru’s attention and Gaara’s desire to kill whoever he faced (which was going to be Sasuke)
Kakashi is a good Sensei. I know people want him to be the worst but at the end of the day while he did make mistakes he was still a good Sensei. He cared. He protected. He taught his students what was appropriate for their skill level and when they needed other focus’/specific training he selected a sensei perfectly suited for that sensei (like he did choosing Ebisu, an expert in teaching chakra control), to teach Naruto how to improve his chakra control)
Team Seven falling apart was not Kakashi’s fault
None of his students got left behind, and all three of them are recognized as having grown a lot with his training (we just never see the actual training because the story skips it)
And even if Kakashi was unable to be there to train Sakura in the way i wish he could have, largely because of the demmand of his attention on missions that resulted in him having to leave when his team needed him in the first place, that still does not take away the fact he cares
He knows Sakura’s skills. He respects her skills. He compliments her skills
Of f***ing course he’s going to talk her up to Tsunade, which is just a snall part of why tsunade decides to take Sakura on as a student (if Sakura had jot asked, Tsunade would not have taken her under her wing. That moment was still 99% about them and their choices and 1% about Kakashi and what he happened to tell Tsunade about Sakura)
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