#I just can't see the other doctors NOT having the business man lure the spider for being so fuckin annoying about it

[camellcat]

WTFFF I thought thirteen would be my new girl crush love of my life heart eyes wife you-came-after-twelve-you-must-be-better-than-they're-all-saying bbygirl and then I had to sit down and watch as she told a man who (if he were not a murderer, of course) literally every regeneration before her would've LOVED and FULLY SUPPORTED that "the systems aren't the problem. how people use and exploit the system, that's the problem. people like you" </33333 !?!?

#WHERE IS THAT POST THAT SAID NINE WOULD KILL THIRTEEN FOR BEING A CLASS TRAITOR #WHY WOULD YOU SAY “ERODE PEOPLE'S TRUST IN AUTOMATION” ALL WORRIED AND CONCERNED LIKE THAT??? #WHEN DID YOU START LIKING AUTOMATION OVER PEOPLE THINKING AND DOING THINGS FOR THEMSELVES??? #AND WHY ARE YOU TRAVELING WITH A COPPER??? WE HATE COPPERS?????? #did we FORGET into the dalek?? how about how he treated danny?? god there's so much more I can't even remember off the top of my head #(I understand soldiers are different from cops but c'mon don't even PRETEND twelve would've been any nicer if blue or danny were just COPS) #also a bit off topic bUT MAY I JUST TALK ABOUT ARACHNIDS IN THE UK FOR HALF A GODAMNED SECOND— #I know the companions are usually the ones to do the doctor's dirty work here but like #I just can't see the other doctors NOT having the business man lure the spider for being so fuckin annoying about it #like I was genuinely surprised when they had him do that whole song and dance about not doing it and then he actually just. didn't do it #the doctor LOVES fucking with evil rich business men this is PERFECT. plus why not get back at him for being awful to their companions? #absolutely gobsmacked thirteen let him act like that. I am wrong in thinking that the others would've shut his shit down a LOT quicker?? #anyways. I love jodie whittaker and it's just so upsetting to have her doctor do something so wildly off #THIRTEEN PLEASE I HAD SUCH FAITH IN YOUUU I WAS IGNORING THE HATERS AND FOR WHAT #I can SEE the other doctors in her still I can FEEL them they're there she's doing an AMAZING job but. oh my god. what did they make her do #I can't even say she feels ooc as a whole because jodie is bloody brilliant. it's just these... moments. that don't make ANY sense to me... #especially coming off of twelve?? I get the radical personality switch but that belief is a core part of the doctor. or at least I THOUGHT #thirteenth doctor #doctor who #I still love all of you who love her and reading ur posts/fics but I. will not be making any myself. I do not think.

[regularfan]

AU LORE + stupid POLL

i don't have cringi fanart to lurk you in. yet. but i do have technical *.txt piece, sort of "worldbuilding&questioning". so, if you're really eager to see any new content..

First of all, all that superhuman-supernatural stuff, ether Marvel or DC or other, is working more for commercial sell than for analysing extraordinary scenarios or deeply experimenting with "super" environments. Science fiction sometimes do! But those are comics, for vast audience, so.. i just take my statement axiomatic. Marvel has some of the coolest series and characters, but they did set them in a simplified world to print more covers faster, and now their first, main/official runs are kinda stuck in prescribed goofyness. And i'm just that sort of a person who takes original, makes original-copy, moderates it until half unrecognisable, usually just to enjoy alone ,:/ i shared some thirst art, but

This all based on a mix of early 616 MCU, TSSM (beloved) and bits from different media.

----something general

Starting from Otto – gets de-aged into late 20s. With his genial mind he got a high position at Oscorp really quick, so his sanity had weakened at 31 (was damaged already, in fact), mostly due to Osborn's influence. The significant change in character - he's not just strictly nuclear physicist about industrial energy, he's a skilled robotics engineer, and basically that "tech guy" for all occasions. So when Norman employed him, year later Otto became a new head of previously humble experimental lab of robotics and nuclear manufacturing. While working there for other three years, it became a complex scientific section, where Octavius developed his doctoral thesis. But as Oscorp was already gaining from the shadow weapon development and production, it was a matter of a short time and "personal" work on Otto's mind before Osborn pushed his knowledge and skills into this darker industry.

Basically there were no fighting Spider-man at those times, as Otto acted not on his own and under the protection of corporation. Sometimes his CEO would fund his own research/invention needs, as with doctorate and with infamous "arms". They were kind of a conglomerate of many tests on AI, mechatronics, portative nuclear energy sources and biotechnology in prosthesis, which should contributed to military, control and forces purposes – as the world was filled with people with supernatural powers, and the big part of this minority were feared much, as a "super" feature overlapped mostly on a sample of not "comfortable/safe" people. The only reason exactly Octavius' arms had such design – it was more of a funtime and sidework of a man who genuinely loved cephalopods.

After Otto gone partly insane, he couldn't tolerate being near his previously almost-partner, so he rises his contacts in criminal world, aka proto version of Sinister Six, openly committing crimes around the whole state, stealing dangerous and suspicious stuff, alarming authorities to call some young superhero to catch him, but they are busy with actual supervillains at that time. That's where Peter decided to act, and where their confrontation for several years started.

But what about Norman and Otto? They simply collided with their personal madnesses – from a hard childhood up to pathological psychology and behaviour. Norman is pretty accurate a sociopath in the hugely draining depression, with an idea-fix on family's legacy and with the rare soft spot for Otto (he can't admit), but with actual alter ego of Goblin, who is extremely atrocious and destructive, and has his own perception of "soft spot" for doctor. Mostly like original, but even more deceptively easygoing and kind outside. Octavius is megalomaniac just as depicted in canon, despite the fact he received and never hided it since the childhood, luring people by a humble (cute in some way) appearance and usually ending up terrifying them. What he subconsciously looks for - is both an admiration and love from the whole world and the praise from those who are beyond powerful and a-priory incapable of praising and compassion - right as he sees Norman. So the idea-fix of last becomes his goal too, and they evolving from strangers to kinda lovers rapidly.

Until the accident happened – no melting harness on skin, just a deadly explosion that put Otto in a miserable condition at 32 for about a year, almost taking away his sight and ability to walk. Even if it was Goblin who messed with Octavius' workplace leading to damage, Otto has no belief in that and blames Norman for betrayal, robbing Oscorp greatly (arms inclined) before leaving and forming his criminal band. Despite he doesn't have a clear goal on band's functioning at first (besides periodically rush at Oscorp), Parker started to intervene in their crimes, and so called Doc Ock became obsessed with the idea to defeat Spider-man.

Soon the Green Goblin shows himself the first time, but no body can recognise a director of international corporation in him, as the serum changes him enough (high supernatural aspects of serum). He seems to be on a chase for Spider-man too, for unknown for Otto reasons, so they kind of bond without the last realising he cooperates with his.. well, ex. Osborn, when alter ego takes his mind over, actually defends Otto from superheroes, but for a wicked care attempts - to see how Octavius will hit sufficient madness to be with Goblin.

So it's like - Norman abuses yet strangely adores Otto, Goblin ruins their relationship, then invests in Ottos' sanity fall, so he can have him for his own self. It all whilst Sinister Six battles with Parker, and Octavius find that Peter is Spider-man, but keeps silent as takes their confrontation very personal because he sees in Peter's life the one which he could have, but instead had his horrid childhood and nowadays.

As it's MCU world, there's a good amount of rare interaction between "friends of A, who's friend of B, with friends of B" (works with foes too). I'm just getting exited when clever-guy types from different series meet each other. I want to mess with Stark Industries.

Finally, since now i proudly have more than 0.5 follower, i will abuse my world level popularity

ps - why otto? well. cuz he dramatically sad, wacky af, chaotic, childhood problems, apex bitch behaviour and drawn ugly yasss finally i can relate but charismatic. depends on issue though. yet always neat role model in science field i'm in! ALSO THIS MAN GRAND TTHHICCKK IM THIRSTING